Kron Gracie vs. Marcelo Garcia - ADCC 2011 Welterweight 77kg 169lbs

[@georgelincolnrockwell5843]

Took me over an hour and a half to finish this ten minute video. I kept rewinding, watching the transitions at slower speeds, etc. 100% worth it.

[@xxdragan1969]

Gotta love george lincoln!!He would have loved the jits without the ju...

[@randyvillegas35]

Same but not this 1. I was watching Eddie bruh vs mg and literally stayed up until like 1 am rewinding it and pretty much studying.

[@Castlepa26]

Please excuse my lack of knowledge but I'm just starting to watch and understand bjj. I still don't know how he lost what happened? Did he get dq for locking the knee. Or did he tap and I just can't see it?

[@randyvillegas35]

@@Castlepa26 won by points

[@jsl8461]

@@Castlepa26 ADCC rules different from IBJJF rules. The first half is no points, the second half is points. The points system is different. Two of the biggest differences is that you get a 1 point penalty for pulling guard, and the criteria for a takedown is much more difficult to fulfill, but there are others too. In ADCC, all leg locks including heel hooks are legal. Also, it is legal to slam to escape a submission. Marcelo got a takedown in the second half that was worth 2 points. He also got a takedown in the first half, but since it's ADCC rules no points are scored during that time period. The score ended up being 2-0. If this were IBJJF rules, the score would have been 4-0.

[@gianantonamor1559]

That choke was deep. And it's one of kron's signature moves. I turned purple just by watching it.

[@VegaH_]

Marcelo Garcia looks like Murray from impractical jokers.

[@Quarles93]

Murray

[@superdeluxesmell]

I think he looks like Charles from Brooklyn 99.

[@jrpclimb9a]

Murr

[@fsw6330]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@jorygraciano620]

Hahahah exactly hahahah

[@interestedparty7523]

Marcelo, humble as ever, admits the guillotine almost put him out.

[@funkyflights]

Marcelo is such a talent ... Kron has no reason to hold his head down, he did well, Marcelo is just as good as it get’s...

[@wuzillah]

It just shows how many levels there are to this game! You can see Kron just being frustrated at 4min like Marcelo weight 400lbs hehe. That top game man!

[@qdav5]

Those guys are at such a high level. I've practiced BJJ and can easily see that Kron and Marcelo great fighters, but even so, I know they are doing things that I can't really appreciate. I have enormous respect for anybody, in any field, who has spent years of near-obsessive training to transform their natural talents into an art form.

[@brendon2462]

Awesome match some nice passing by Garcia. Early on looked like he thought about the leg drag for a second. Then threw both legs to the side instead to get the pass. Krons guard recovery and defence was incredible.

[@gokuvegeta4378]

both these guys are awesome

[@dimecanal]

all you people talking shit about kron he was 21 there against a legend .... so stop the shit talking , kron had him i a coplue of subs marcelo won for the take downs , great match great competitors

[@sublime929]

Kron got his shit pushed in.

[@harrypoosie3035]

Umm that’s reason for him to win he’s much younger and more athletic than Marcelo. You can’t really argue skill because he hasn’t had much less training than Marcelo, they both been at it their whole lives. So skill just comes down to who’s the better fighter. Marcelo ain’t in there with a white belt, it’s Kron fuckin Gracie and he put up a great fight. But Marcelinho is king.

[@gaiusx287]

Harry Poosie in pure bjj, experience matters more than youth, and Marcelo has over a decade of experience on Kron here

[@harrypoosie3035]

Gaiusx2 it’s not pure bjj it’s bjj under man made rules and the man who made the rules is related to one of the people that are fighting. But looking back yeah I was giving Kron benefit of the doubt. No one could beat Marcelo when he competes.

[@matthewhorizon6050]

@@sublime929 "You ever get your shit pussssshhhhhed in?" 🤬

[@leandroalgenton]

Marcelo has the strongest base I've ever seen. Those guard escapes...

[@friskmall6327]

The execution behind that first takedown was flawless.

[@HM-uu9ug]

BJJ guys have terrible takedowns

[@Loneshdo]

@@HM-uu9ug Just like wrestlers have really bad triangle chokes?

[@alivepenmods]

@@HM-uu9ug some guys have good takedowns, they just don't look the same as in wrestling because you want to land in specific positions like side control.

[@marcuslatrent528]

@@HM-uu9ug I agree. They don't train them enough

[@HM-uu9ug]

@@Loneshdo just like wrestlers that know what they're doing kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKW2goaYf996d68

[@The-Dom]

I'm exhausted

[@quickstep2408]

yep, did my exercise for the day. now time for a pint! man what happened to me.

[@Cristian-zz9ny]

Awesome video! Please upload some more Marcelo if you can!

[@xfoolsgoldx]

Both amazing fighters❤

[@coryvore]

No way I could wear an actual t-shirt for a competition match.

[@dena_9219]

Yeah i wouldnt even allow that. You could easily get your finger stuck in there and hurt it

[@nocompres]

and it's fucking adcc

[@user-vc6]

Hilarious ..is your little cheap spandex ralph Loren or something? world champions, and adcc champions having being wearing t shirts in no gi and adcc since dawn of adcc. Guys like royler Gracie in 2003 Jean machadio in 2001 and 99, Nino Shembri , Kron here and so on..A t-shirt is no worse then a gi in which thousands of matches happen. Actually it’s far weaker ….. you think these dudes who grew up and lived on the mat would know a thing or two.. seriously what marketing campaign has convinced new guys that rash guards are something special?

[@mishaaskar3323]

I swear...Marcelo makes every BJJ star look like they just entered at white belt...this guy is on another level..he passed Kron's guards 3 times in just the beginning...most never make it past one with Kron...Marcelo really will become the greatest BJJ legend of our time.

[@starlord2858]

Misha Askar I agree he's a legend already

[@mishaaskar3323]

True...but I think he's going to be much more revered than most of the late Gracies except for the founders...this guy is going to be amazing when he finally creates his own fighters.

[@stephenforbes2762]

Except he never passed Kron's guard in this match and certainly didn't make him look like a white belt

[@alanmartinezrodriguez884]

Roger Gracie is the best ever. I like MG, I think he's top 3 in the all time greats. But Roger's numbers speak for themselves.

[@sienright]

yea couple passes for a second, but he was in trouble with the guilo..........lets keep it real, great match

[@grimreefer213]

Jiu Jitsu is such an awesome discipline because even at older age you can still do work on the younger guys

[@juntjoonunya9216]

Yeah, I started wrestling as a kid then transitioned into bjj later considering it the killer of the two grappling arts, but now past 40 wrestling is like skateboarding, shit hurts, but jj is soft and smooth and easy on the body, if you let it be

[@Beakie40k]

Nowhatamsaying not going to help when you get taken to the ground....

[@lightray9573]

@Nowhatamsaying except that's why I use jiu jitsu and wrestling to avoid being hit in the face

[@PeteOrta]

Yep, I’m 49 and still keeping up with the young bloods. #oldmanstrength

[@mohammadkhan2101]

@@PeteOrta what age did you start?

[@mmaforever594]

thaanks for the upload never seen this before

[@joshuakinlaw2503]

I can really appreciate this match now that I've been taking BJJ class for a few weeks. Will be watching these high level matches to help my game. 👌

[@HM-uu9ug]

@@ceoofgreenheartinvestmentf173 nah he sucks still white belt

[@davin397]

Hope you stuck with it. I just started a month ago and love it

[@user-zs5gm2ql2i]

Kron is a a very nice fighter, but Marcelinho is one of the best of all time ! !

[@dailygrindism]

That guillotine was so deep.

[@erubiobjj]

Victor Mata yeah i was fucking waiting for it too, delusions

[@salski70]

it might of seemed like it was but marcelo had his arm in there so kron couldnt close it. marcelo has his number...

[@erubiobjj]

salski70 i think he's referring to the episode of jre where joe and kron were watching this match from a different angle and kron swears that he nearly put marcelco out with that guillotine but his arm started to cramp up, thing is from that old angle before this video came out it actually looked like he had it

[@yodizzll]

not really. the elbow isnt even down, basically krone is just cranking on marcelos neck. you can tell by the way that marcelo isnt defending, hes just sitting and waiting. he knows that hes not going to go out, and krone is going to eventually let go. you can also tell by the way Marcelo is barely fazed when he does get out, his face inst red, hes not dazed or neeidng to recover, he just goes back to business.

[@yodizzll]

i mean, ofcourse he is going to "swear he almost put him out with the choke", but that doesnt mean much

[@isuskrist420]

First time I watched this match was before starting BJJ. Since then I watched it every few months and every next viewing it takes me longer and longer to finish the video since I keep pausing and replaying sequences since I understand more and more. Simply incredible match.

[@hectorurdiales4570]

Looking it in 2019: "why is he not jumping into ashi garami?", man, bjj has changed a lot...

[@danielm1429]

Well... last saturday he tried! 😆

[@ataidealmeida5883]

Marcelinho é um dos maiores lutadores que o mundo já teve

[@fettattoo]

Concordo plenamente!

[@user-rs7ou9vz6p]

Marcelo not just great grappler but very nice human being

[@trevoryelencsics7020]

This needs to be on the next fight companion eddie bravo is in and they need to commentate it. Rogan and eddie love these guys and this was such a high level chess match. This was a very intense conversation using Jiu jitsu.

[@bobbyleendo8282]

trevor yelencsics Joe should focus on Schaub not spilling any more beans on his cheating

[@teamgitusome]

marcelo is a different kind of dude on the ground

[@RaulRamos-vl9if]

Yes! Won again!

[@kobe51]

Fabulous, Marcello!

[@FelipePereira-mr4zm]

Dois monstros 🇧🇷

[@stevenkissi8432]

Release kron gracie vs murilo santana if u have it please

[@unidentified00003]

It was amazing 😨😨😨 I was nervous every second 😥

[@justjones5430]

The Art of Wrestling.

[@jamesb0gginsw0rth63]

I give kron hespect for wearing a t shirt and trunks. "No gi day" at the gym uniform.

[@mikewilkins2030]

Lol Hespect! Hahaha

[@reiniervanramshorst1031]

How on Earth did mg survive that guillotine at 9:00?!

[@sienright]

Gracie under pressure!!!! Ice Cream Kron.......that guillotine was so deep, have to give it to Kron, it was the most offensive play of the match!!!! Skrap Pack 4L

[@2ndamendment980]

MG, the man!

[@chijaytavaakachija1513]

I remember the mats were sweating really bad, and it made it harder for anyone on top.

[@somelivesdontmattersldm8776]

Nice work

[@YawehthedragondogofEL]

Marcelo didn't attempt a single submission. The man is great and he is playing to win, but this points system nonsense is the reason tournament JJ puts people to sleep.

[@trido79]

Define who is "people": I'm far from beoing an expert in BJJ actualy I just started. Before not so far ago I didn't understand anything about ground fight. Now with my little practice I watch those fights with great excitment. It doesn't take a lot to appreciate the show.

[@Kurups101]

yeah the point system is awful. metamoris ftw

[@eagleeyeeagleeye6734]

I agree, even though I love watching these videos. I have no idea what the finally score actually was.

[@eagleeyeeagleeye6734]

I would say Marcelo took the W from the passing

[@celica96]

@Jeff C good point. If one is so inclined, you can think of it this way: anything that gets you point in a BJJ tournament is very good in a street fight. For example, takedowns would break the guys back on concrete, or sweeps, or guard passing so you can punch him while in side control, or knee on belly which hurts the uninitiated quite a lot and is a good control position, or mount where you can deliver many many strikes. So I actually prefer the points system to sub only, because in fact, positional advancement is huge part of MMA or practically, and you can do many many other things that aren't subs, and you should really fight for positions.

[@tserenzurganov1465]

why did they let Kron wear a regular t-shirt?

[@mottahead6464]

Marcelo Garcia is a zen master.

[@Silentwatcher23]

I am 40 and i am 1 month White belt... I wish i knew this sport 20 years ago...

[@michaelbanks2401]

2 masters of the game !!! I think I would be more scared of his dad than losing.. 🤣

[@jrpclimb9a]

Marcelo Garcia looks like he is in slow-mo because all his movements R so smooth...

[@vincespell]

If only Kron had known about the shoulder trap sweep of Marcelo's he may have had a chance! He definitely had Marcelo in a position for it on several occasions!

[@Paul-mq5yn]

how quick did Kron recover his guard when MG threw his legs

[@ronsenyor5996]

3:31 Kron fucking grabs his own shin and that ends up being his frame to hoist Marcelo up... come on this shit is too high level !!!!!

[@crocfixio]

krons development has been phenomenal..he got tapped in their last contest..this time he almost had marcelo..that arm in guillotine was tight !! it was a great fight..

[@lippymuff1871]

That Guillotine gassed him out, he wasted a whole lot of energy on a guillotine that wasn't properly sunk in, but he was being beaten anyways throughout. Marcello really is a BADASS

[@Joez86]

Marcelo - superb

[@pizzulo81]

Bruh how did you get your po to let you leave the country with that ankle monitor?

[@CanibalTempo]

Is marcelo still in competition? I mean, hes 35 so i think he is still able to compete... Maybe im wrong. Anyone can answer please.thanks

[@cristianoalves1361]

Dois monstro.

[@naturalbornkiller361]

Imagine if Marcelo had a strong stand up skills, he could've been a force in mma.

[@bane3991]

Jiu Jitsu and mma grappling are 2 different things. They go hand in hand, but they're different at the end of the day. You can be amazing at jiu jitsu and suck in mma. You can be amazing at boxing and suck at mma. While other martial arts do play a role in mma, it's different and the carry over isn't as strong as a lot of people believe.

[@RiteshSinghYT]

@I know I’m gay when I say this but Tony Ferguson

[@nbrace-tl8ku]

Marcelo is a master technician so he can relax and not have to get gross. Kron's lack of the same level of technicality gets him frustrated which leads to anger which leads to grossness. I hope he has grown out of it.

[@bane3991]

Kron is extremely technical.

[@archgod7928]

Because of my work schedule I can only train twice a week. I feel sad sometimes because I can’t go as often as I would like to. Should I remain depressed?

[@stefanwolf8558]

If you can't go to the gym, you can still do basic drills at home. Upa drills, various shrimps and hip escapes etc. You can also buy a swiss ball and do some basic guard passes. Hope this helps.

[@DSVN23]

Nope, just make sure you’re giving it everything on the nights you do train. Chew jitsu has a very good video on this

[@Rujewitblood]

I don't like to train more than twice a week feels like too much for my body, definitely nothing to be depressed about

[@camillo1234]

When kron grabs an ankle or even two from the bottom, often in closed guard, why doesn't he arch himself hard to try and reverse? I don't even see him testing that. Surely missing something here but thought I ask

[@joshhernandez5069]

Because Garcia would never fall susceptible to the white belt takedown. If he fully committed to it Marcelo would convert that to a dominant position for himself, he knows how to avoid that takedown.

[@ericdunn5018]

How was the Jiu Jitsu tournament won? Wrestling

[@suckmynose000]

It's a grappling tournament

[@imightdeletethislater3810]

Actually, Marcelo won his division that year with a triangle choke. Not exactly a wrestling move, twat.

[@jmuraro]

Marcelo sempre no controle e implacável.

[@kevintemido]

That guillotine was DEEP

[@powerboon2k]

I am studying that first takedown hard.

[@MrAngelthebeast]

In a Tuesday,it’s going up.

[@hamadalrowaie6882]

5:53 did he headbutt him ? 😅

[@markhill8150]

I cannot BELIEVE they are allowing Kron to compete with such a baggy t shirt on.

[@mmaforever594]

yea

[@greywarrior60]

Probably he wanted to look like an absolute beginner.

[@XMartinv90x]

Mark Hill If it was someone else it would been told about it before the match. in a small tournament or in-house tournament I guess is ok. But yea surprised, not.

[@XMartinv90x]

Azrael Really? a GI in a NO-GI match?

[@michaelbanks2401]

Like Jean jacques

[@chefjonsf]

Love how my boy Kron comes out with white tee over a rashy. Noice

[@Malouco]

What the difference

[@chefjonsf]

@@Malouco Other than style and uncomfortable sweat sticking to the shirt, there really is none.

[@user-qx5nk6qg2b]

That did it for you?

[@Tain950]

Damn Marcelo is so strong when he’s rolling with someone his size .

[@josephtrum5422]

i have heard Marcelo say that he noticed the mat was slippery, and after he slipped early jn the match he recognized that he needed to force a takedown on Kron in order to take advantage

[@vincentvw4153]

I see lots of videos where the new ufc star loses his fights😕

[@kar3n35]

Last night I got a swollen lip in no gi night so slippery and tonight is gi so excited. New gi

[@juliavasquez5770]

Did he pass out! Then escape!

[@joedike8380]

yes

[@Khaos969]

Marcelo is my favourite BJJ fighter of all time

[@yaakw]

Khaos969 watch Rener grappling with T City. Like two minks fighting on the beach.

[@samuraisteve2775]

Khaos969 You must mean sport BJJ competitor as his one real fight was an embarrassing loss. I am just saying cuz it’s true. I was rooting for him. He is a tournament competitor and not a fighter.

[@tsenvun6659]

Marcelo breath through his head

[@richardbello5732]

Eddie Bravo was right

[@zodiac154]

My neck hurts from watching that

[@joedike8380]

Marcelo admitted that he passed out for a couple of seconds to the gullatine

[@wildmansamurai3663]

No he didn't.

[@Xe974]

@@wildmansamurai3663 yes he did

[@wildmansamurai3663]

@@Xe974 nope

[@Xe974]

@@wildmansamurai3663lol fummy do some research

[@interestedparty7523]

I heard it different, Marcelo admitted to almost submitting but pulled through.

[@abmo32]

I wonder if they go extra hard or a little more gentle because they are family, really can't tell what is happening at that level lol...

[@Malouco]

Not related

[@juntjoonunya9216]

Gracie vs Garcia... Um... Both share the first 5 letters in slightly different order but not the last letter. Close though!

[@twisterblister1729]

marčéélo perfekto rapido kontrolo, kron ma neskutéčno much problééébo

[@Cryptosifu]

How did Kron lose?

[@Kurups101]

because of lame ass point system

[@mistersonnen848]

@@Kurups101 it's the rule they both agreed to compete under. How's that lame?

[@Kurups101]

@@mistersonnen848 You're honestly right. It's not - i just am not a fan of it

[@rodrigues_a51]

Marcelo play clean! Kron alltime hit in the head of Marcelo!!

[@melangkoh4184]

i call it unfair!

[@justdrummin91]

Marcelo is the GOAT

[@joshuasmith6346]

Marcelos core strength is so gnarly

[@rickystoddard6749]

Violent wizards

[@Marcnshae2011]

Wow! That guillotine!!!

[@tajm9220]

One question, why is Marcelo allowed to wear tree trunks for legs?

[@t-bone7988]

Maarcelo wasn't even in his athletic prime and still won. What a beast!!

[@Thome90]

when was his prime? want to watch some of his stuff

[@t-bone7988]

Like 2003 - 2008 maybe. I achieved most of his accolades when he was quite young. Still a gorilla in 2011 which for some would be their athletic prime. Marcelo was just different.

[@jaymiddleton1782]

I was so anxious for MG to win. Not just because I’m a big fan of his, but mainly because I don’t believe anything good should come to someone who thinks the earth is flat.

[@Rhythmicbodywork]

Two of the best : Kron’s definitely got better since then and Marcelo wasn’t at his prime then but why can’t some of these high level guys really learn good wrestling for their takedowns.. that first one was good : but think about if one of them went to Iowa or Oklahoma state for just one season and went through all the practices.. wouldn’t be all this constant head slapping and fake leg sweeps...

[@yasinpatel12345]

lol it's a stereotype Brazilians can't throw straight punches or wrestle.

[@augustoloa4315]

Some of then do that. Then, for some reason, they got guillotined. Please watch a training betwen marcelo and ben askren. Some movement patterns are created to benefit takedowns. The jiu-jitsu practioner takedowns are most alwas mediocre to less, but almost all high level bjj practioner had takedowns with good defensive postura against submissions.

[@Bo-fc5mn]

Very good point my man. Its a world mystery why brazil doesn't also have a top tier wrestling program. I feel like all it would take would be a couple russians to get that started just like maeda from japan did back in the first days of bjj.

[@Garrett1240]

@Jeff C What a ridiculous thing to say. Half of freestyle wrestling is the 'art', for lack of a better word, of remaining on one's feet despite the fact someone must go down in order to win. As far as they're standing, Marcelo would be impotent against a top-flight D1 wrestler; it's just plain to see given his posture and general body positioning in relation to how the hypothetical wrestler would ordinate his arms, legs, and torso. This is coming from a big BJJ fan. The portion of the respective sports where competitors are standing aren't anything alike or transferable.

[@cheese3416]

@Jeff C noticed he didnt reply lol take his silence as proof of your victory in the argument. He has nothing

[@jmoz]

his cervical spine tho

[@mikemichaels4500]

I will continue to beat the dead horse. Kron was using a lot of strength to try and finish the guillotine. That probably means his positioning was off. A properly sunk in guillotine requires very little effort to finish.

[@sienright]

um yea it take strength to finish guilo on marcelo ? agreed white belts do tap when you grab their neck? good one!!!!

[@josephtrum5422]

Marcelo also had the club over Kron's shoulder, which is a good stop-gap defense to the guillotine

[@dilligafTV1]

@@sienright Actually it doesn't if its done right.

[@smithnwesson990]

Wrong. You go ahead and try it on a pro who is throwing his weifht down just enough to stay conscious

[@dougconley]

Is hand shoves to the face legal??

[@rajdehoo6993]

Yups .. but no eye pokes

[@SilverbackGeurrilla]

Kron looked a bit salty.

[@harrypoosie3035]

Ronin Patriot he looked pissed the whole fight probably cuz he realized how bad Marcelo is making him look lol

[@diowk]

2:06 = who's leg is who's? that looks messed up

[@richelrickes6276]

Marcelo é foda

[@homersimpson5964]

To anyone who thinks that guillotine from the closed guard was close, look at how Marcelo's demeanor did not change when Kron slipped his arm through and clinched with his other arm. Marcelo does not underestimate the choke as you can see by his defensive counter such as shifting to the weak side, weaving through the arm on the far side of the choke, sitting back on his heels, and also preventing Kron from full extending for the choke. You can also see that Marcelo never employs any desperate tactics. I'm willing to bet that most of the time, the blade of Kron's arm was across Marcelo's chin. Fatigue definitely played a part for Kron, but amazing match that had two of the most beautiful wrestling based takedowns in a Jiu Jitsu match.

[@sienright]

marcelo never had that offensive of a position on K? he was in trouble but did work out......great match

[@josephtrum5422]

Marcelo has mentioned in interviews that the guillotine was very tight, and that he almost went out a couple times

[@Alchemistic88]

Kron was too young to be able to hang with Marcelo here. And Marcelo is a bit too old now... Two different eras unfortunately

[@vstar9553]

BS

[@vstar9553]

Steelmonger888 100% agree

[@Iron-Lion16]

Should just train to have an unbreakable hug

[@vikasbiliye5023]

#me too

[@fileinterrupted1787]

Savage

[@good6894]

Can somebody please tell me how Marcelo won this match? Seems like it just kind of ends with no submission or anything. Where was the "winning move" exactly? Pardon my complete lack of BJJ understanding.