KSP: NASA's Plan to Build Skylab 2 Using SLS Tanks

Today, I decided to recreate the interesting Skylab II mission - and no, not the second crewed expedition to Skylab, I mean the 2013 design for a second generation Skylab, one situated where the James Webb Space Telescope now sits! The primary module would have been a spent hydrogen tank from an SLS rocket, and all sorts of other bonkers things that I discuss in the video! :D
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[@AstroHopefulBenjaminGottsch]

Just a short correction, but the jwst is in the earth sun l2 Lagrange point. Not the earth moon. Other than that great video.

[@vector824]

Came here to say this.

[@TechnocratiK]

This is correct.

[@twanchee206]

Episode 73 of “people say smart things im too dumb to understand”

[@fork9001]

Another error, in the description Matt says that Skylab 2 was the second crewed mission to the station, but this is false. Skylab 1 was the launch of the station itself and Skylab 2 was the first crewed mission to inhabit the station.

[@jeffymcjeff4835]

Just noticed that Matt named the Station “Skylab 2: Electric Boogaloo”

[@monika.alt197]

Lol

[@noisyneko1638]

The crew rocket is also named as "Orannge Boi" lmao

[@aguywhodoesstuff1116]

noooooo

[@ryeb_]

Of course

[@27merlins95]

Me too

[@MattLowne]

Just to give you an update on some KSP stuff - The Stranded episode 2 will be out hopefully next week, and episode 3 will be one week later!

[@wrd7477]

hello matt. your videos are really great but i can't understand you the way i want because i don't know english exactly. I'm sure there are many people who are like this. I personally live in Turkey. I wish you would add language options to your videos in the form of subtitles. If you ask me, it would be a useful move for your channel.

[@rathauslevel3357]

Yay more videos

[@jasongrim2027]

What filming software do you use for your videos

[@jplayzsfsandmore3173]

P0g!

[@Iamlurking504]

Just don't out-kerbal yourself!

[@Alex-yd8hj]

I love watching the building part because I always have moments like "ohh that's how he adds that part to the side". There are always little tricks that you do when you are building so thanks for including that footage for those of us that want to see it! Take care Matt!

[@davididiart5934]

Matt legit made me a better KSP player, and I've been playing since the darn thing was in alpha.

[@eruk4678]

I have stolen many design tips from Matt (and more than a couple design components as well) he has also just made me better at playing by just letting me see similar maneuvers performed so many times.

[@kumiko3264]

I LOVE THESE "missions that never were"

[@plainText384]

Pretty sure JWST is at the earth-sun L2, not the earth-moon L2 point.

[@fluxxi5289]

I was thinking the same thing

[@TheTrueMichael]

That ”Electric Boogaloo” in the craft name was just a KILLER LOL. I always liked to name stuff that has a 2.0 or a 2 with ”Electric Boogaloo” so this just filled my need for an Electric Boogaloo :D

[@roonion6365]

After 1 week of playing KSP i finally landed on minmus and made it back the size of missions ur doing is insane for me rn

[@Tuning3434]

Practice, practice practice. Landing on Minmus will be insanely routine at a certain moment. In the more career driven save's I've set up a regular nuclear shuttle service between Mun, Minmus ore harvester and a kerbin space-station with a SSTO to rotate crew, and fuel carriers / depots to refuel in orbit. Sprinkled with some internal role playing rules that I never use my nuclear engines in proximity (or directed) to nearby vehicles to spice up the challenge. The first time I had to de-orbit and land near a surface base seemed impossible for me, but after 2 or 3 succesful attempts is just extra steps. Same as with docking, first it seems impossible, but once you get a hang of it and understand what data the game is giving to you, you do it 10 times in an hour speedrunning through them.

[@roonion6365]

@@Tuning3434 ye but for now i don't even know how to get into orbit normally i just go up and then go to the side

[@aguywhodoesstuff1116]

@@roonion6365 As matt himself said, by the time you are 10km up, you should be pointing at a 45 degree angle

[@roonion6365]

@@aguywhodoesstuff1116 ye ik but every time I do that i don't have enough fuel to go to orbit

[@starstorm5338]

I remember my first time landig on Minmus 2 years ago using Matt Lowne's tutorial. Other then practice, you"'ll need dedication. Try your best. Always expect mission failures and learn from them. Trust me, with enough experience and dedication you'll eventually land on Eve and the Joolian moons.

[@zachbaird4717]

“ Do not check out my other videos “ Matt : 2022. I’m gonna hold you to that one.

[@jolvergan7878]

Matt, us true fans are gonna stick with you no matter what! I just like space videos! Ksp and beyond! You're a great video creator! I look forward to the future!

[@janmelantu7490]

I love wet workshops, it would be cool if they added an SLS tank to the Lunar Gateway

[@echoharmony926]

2:16 JWST is at the earth-sun L2 lagrange point.

[@Yaivenov]

Adding objectless "planets" to serve as Lagrangian points is an idea I pitched in the kopernicus thread a couple years ago. Never did try it.

[@spritefun9362]

I suppose you could literally name the planets "Kerbin L1", "Kerbin L2" etc etc. I've never messed about with Kopernicus configs before, I've only added planet packs, I assume it's not too difficult to test this?

[@da_dog_lol8341]

Matt i really do think that the ksp content has gotten a lot better ever since you stopped forcing yourself to upload weekly.

[@thenamelessplayer328]

Agree 100%, weekly content basically turned into launching a similar SSTO every week, now Matt has time to come up with unique missions. Breaks are great!

[@Z4RD4N34]

Loved the mission and you did a great job with the self promotion. Not not too pushy, not to whiny, just right, perfectly balanced like all things should be.

[@oasntet]

Mods of note: - Principia does multi-body physics, which maybe is enough to get Lagrange points? Though stationkeeping becomes more difficult as a result. - Interstellar Fuel Switch implements changing tanks in mid-mission, and includes two tanks that can become habitats for kerbals.

[@jm56585]

yeah, you can do lagrange in principia.

[@devcoolkol]

7:25 so the fairing's diameter doesn't have to be increased for the lab, the engine is smaller so the tip of fairing will be more triangulated. They were very efficient you know.

[@somedev_xd7549]

LES GOOOO BACK WITH IT AGAIN

[@beansandaxolotls24]

It's space. It's fun. It's KSP. It's more fun. Matt, you have made exploration of the outer worlds in a video game extremely enjoyable, and I'm glad you are still producing so many fantastic videos.

[@jmstudios457]

It's not a perfect solution, but for "wet workshops" or converted stages, I would clip some small passenger modules into the tank. I would then drain the fuel if it was only a converted stage, not a wet workshop. Atleast in stock.

[@astrono07]

I always find it interesting to see how one of these missions of yours come together (also funny to see the kraken pop up occasionally). On another tangent, I’m not sure how I missed the info for 2 YEARS that KSP 2 is a thing, so I’m finally getting around to playing ksp 1 myself. Should have done this ages ago

[@volkswagenb9406]

I love your KSP episodes! Especially these “lost ideas.” It’s really interesting to see plans and concepts brought to reality. Thanks again for the amazing content Matt!

[@stupidgenius42]

12:10 “Skylab 2: Electric Boogaloo” had my dying.

[@endobutterz7000]

I can't wait to watch your KSP 2 videos!

[@Flyguy4500]

Hey Matt, you don’t need to always make these ambitious, long videos every time. We would appreciate any videos, short and simple or long and complex. Whatever works for you, we will be good with.

[@Verstats]

The joy we all get when we see the weekly KSP videos coming back

[@blobofblutack]

You should have a play with the Principia mod (if you haven't already). It implements N-body physics and Lagrange points become a thing in ksp.

[@jeffhurckes190]

And the Bluedog Design Bureau mod supports wet workshops.

[@Wolfsinga18]

Glad your doing KSP again Matt

[@antoningranados3491]

I think that the James Webb is on the Earth-SUN L2 point

[@headgamemaker8385]

I was just thinking about you doing a Skylab station last week, wondering if you've done one yet. Loved it

[@lewismassie]

The Skylab being a wet workshop was originally because they were expecting all the Saturn Vs to be used for Apollo missions, so they were going to have to use a Saturn IB, and the also dock the Apollo Telescope Mount to it on another flight. However when Apollos 18-20 were cancelled they switched to using a full Saturn V, and then they could launch with the ATM already on. However they left the extra docking port

[@turbo2346]

Great Video

[@Vartesss]

U haven't senn the full video bro

[@andreicomsa2974]

@@Vartesss lol

[@jordandegraaff]

Would love to see a mini-series where you visit each base and station you’ve created. You know, do a resupply mission, maybe even give a new crew.

[@patrickalbright1027]

Take all the time you need on these videos. I Love your content, Matt. Keep up the good work, and remember to have fun.

[@starrschmidt7854]

🙂 yup

[@aajjww121]

I firmly believe that Kerbals are actually masses of complex, sentient fungus.

[@sterling19]

I tried to get grapes for my mum at Tesco yesterday, but they hadn't stocked the shelves yet.

[@Hoff_0313]

Now that there is less KSP videos… my anticipation and excitement for them is a 100 times greater now

[@bobbleczar]

Love your videos and your narration! The juice is worth the squeeze!

[@pegasusted2504]

Isn't there principia which models all the stuff needed to have La Grangian points?

[@FatovMikhail]

if we keep asking Matt will finally show him playing Principia of Persia

[@fractalelf7760]

Was thrilled the second I read the title - Skylab was far more than people remember these days. Given it was IIRC 9m across, Starship is 12m… makes you think what might be in store from SpaceX before long. Loved the look of this station - and the little lights still looked good, don’t worry😊.

[@lostpony4885]

Thats my first kerbel mission aside from some launches. Thx!

[@bobmikecong]

Cool stuff bud, I've been watching your kerbal videos for a while and it's been really good. I also dig your space news, can't wait till jwst starts up proper

[@aerodynamickerbal]

I love how he's trying to cover up his mission that "never" happened, just like the soviets in the space race! Edit: These mission actually never happened, haha! Edit 2: Please guys, Matt is keeping me a hostage. Save me.

[@deezem5294]

haha no.

[@fractalelf7760]

On second viewing I think the Kerbals were smiling showing enjoyment at the explosions on re-entry lol…

[@raydar1541]

your latest videos are really good. It sounds like you are really enjoying your self!

[@joshniedens978]

Matt! What skybox are you using?! My RSS save doesn't have the stars like yours does in deep space, that's gorgeous!

[@spacegames6394]

you should get the docking port alignment indicator mod, it helps with docking!

[@FatovMikhail]

it's not needed for the Lowne lazy docking method

[@spritefun9362]

@@FatovMikhail I love the LLDM. Also I use mechjebs paralell target alignment for docking to stations that have the "No LLDM" Warning.

[@zachjackson4129]

i love the music used for liking the video

[@gate7clamp]

I wonder if they can do use the same concept for blue origin rockets or SpaceX starship

[@FatovMikhail]

it's not fun to live in a methane tank. it has an oxygen tank though so maybe

[@Bulltoad_Real]

Mattlowne Style SLS! Awesome. Keep it up Matt!

[@quoniam426]

Catching Lupus? Is that a Dr House reference? It is always Lupus !

[@sctsofficialytchannel7617]

Nice design I tried a design too on another game it ended up being two big orange tanks as well in the final design. Yours does look awesome and I should record it getting into orbit as well. It won't look this nice though :D

[@studiokokwijo]

I love Your ksp videos I would love to see more of them

[@OrbitalDonutKSP]

no way i was going to make skylab too, but i couldn't figure out how to get the shape right. good job!

[@tirthvora5061]

Thanks for making such videos. I like all them. Please upload them.

[@kaz49]

MATT UPLOADED A KSP VIDEO!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@einzer3586]

I want to see more KSP content that are crazy cool

[@billrowe8718]

Fun video! I love the videos that talk about proposed missions that never happened like SLS

[@vooper1699]

Actually had no idea about Skylb 2. Bananas are completely bananas

[@trucksarenoisy]

afaik there was no skylab 1 mission, it started from sklylab 2; not sure about that though

[@andreicomsa2974]

skylab 1 would be the original

[@dawsonshane9327]

Nice! I would love a Skylab 1 video!

[@Kevin-hb7yq]

Interesting mission, love the channel!

[@eekee6034]

TFW you hit the Like button 3 seconds before Matt mentioned it. :) ... Before the _first_ time Matt mentioned it! XD ...You all right, Matt? I'm guessing your allergies were acting up even worse than usual the day you made this. I'm finding I'm allergic to just-about any clothes detergent, but not when it's against my skin. When I hang newly-dried clothes to air, something from them gets into the air and I guess my lungs reduce their oxygen uptake drastically in response. It's very much like a CO2 build-up; I don't feel anything but just can't function any more. If I try to do stuff, I get depressed. But this video ended up pretty funny! 😄👍 And that was the best reentry fireworks yet! :D

[@visyxl]

You say "2nd crewed expedition" in the description, i'd like to correct that it is actually the 1st crewed expedition, as skylab 1 was the acutal launch of the station

[@kerbol3757]

What mods do you use, other than the dlc parts, there are extra tabs to the left and one of the satellites connected to the space station folded in a way that a near future exploration dish would do.

[@dennisd7]

Matt is slowly turning into GLaDOS.

[@kanman7305]

Hey Matt, love your vids man! They the best!

[@FatovMikhail]

if we keep asking Matt to play with Principia he will play Principia of Persia sooner or later

[@Exerted348]

Hello matt! Just want to say that your video's really make my day and I just really enjoy watching them!

[@razorback8300]

New KSP video . YAY !

[@roccov3614]

Thanks to Schrodinger, until you check on them, the Kerbonauts you abandoned are fine.

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

I would have used the offset tool or something to slide the lab into the tank

[@Hilqy]

Love this style of video

[@dannypipewrench533]

0:11 No, Skylab 2 was the first crew to visit Skylab. Skylab 1 was the launch of Skylab.

[@RadoWave]

hi my favorate ksp youtuber keep up the good work

[@zackyboi2934]

if this space station was real then we could preform maintenance on the James web space telescope

[@iitzfizz]

ah yes i think i remember scott manley talking about this, would have been awesome...the tanks are big enough thats for sure

[@riccracc9882]

if you have principia mod theres a thing as lagrange points because principia adds multibody physics

[@aaronjuergens5219]

I mean if the orange tank is meant to have a module in it surrounded by water, it wouldn’t have Windows. The Spotlights make sense, it’s a lab, but also functions as a radiation bunker for the crew of the station.

[@glenn_r_frank_author]

fun mission and episode!

[@patricks_music]

The Saturn V really was wild huh

[@oliverlemley9343]

My favorite fruit is a mango, there you go KZbin engagement algorithm

[@andrewdutton2902]

I haven't played for a long time. Just got back into it on a science playthrough. I have done career far to many times. I missed the EVA construction patch note. Time to recover those pesky under fueled landers I left around Mun :)

[@zekehunter2473]

You want a challenge Matt? return the Eluu station to Kerban

[@benrussell-gough1201]

I know that you can 'sink' one component into another. Could you have put a Hitchhiker-V hab module inside the fuel tank and still be usable for the crew?

[@lemowonderswhat3717]

Planning to make this in SFS.

[@maximgwiazda344]

You could have installed Principia mod, it gives you actual n-body physics and real Lagrange points.

[@zaxs166]

Mmm yes sky lab 2: electric boogaloo

[@levianderson5408]

Can u make a ship that goes to every single moon and planet? That would prolly get a couple million views and it’s the biggest accomplishment! I believe you can do it

[@Kaiserinwalton1871]

The Lord is BACK

[@tobiaszczarnota7879]

You should probably rescue your Eeloo Kerbals

[@jamescook8644]

You definitely gotta rescue your 4 human year stranded kerbals.

[@_sips_2371]

Great video 👍

[@gallipschitz7954]

Loved it!! 😆😆😆

[@oscarsoasisfan6507]

There's a mod called principia that allows for lagrange points in ksp but it looks kinda confusing, so i've never tried it, but maybe you can if you want.

[@FatovMikhail]

Matt, I think orange tanks are orange only because they are disposable. To be converted into a habitat they must be painted white to reflect more sun

[@CardZed]

They are orange because of the insulation. Painting it white adds more weight for little benefit the first few shuttles had white external tanks to reflect sunlight, but it was realized that wasnt needed and just added extra mass.

[@thenativemartian5169]

I like the orange boi. It is cool

[@Desselt42]

i have been your fan for a year ago

[@flameofphoenix5998]

It would have been really interesting to actually see this happen... Oh well...

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

A new Skylab with SLS tanks? Interesting, I didn't realise the SLS tank would even fit into Starship's cargo space... ;)

[@exilestudios9546]

See the joke here is that starship will only ever be used for cargo runs while nasa does all the real work.