KTM 950 Super Enduro... Brief Unofficial History

[@Bu115y]

Hi Mike, thanks for a great video. I had wondered why the 950SE was a thing of legend, and you've explained it nicely in 13 short minutes. Now I want one more than ever!

[@lanceg.8458]

I think the economic collapse of 2009 had as much to do with the 950SE demise an anything. KTM trimmed their entire lineup 200xc's, 400XC's and others went away in that era. When the economy improved the world had changed and fuel injection was all the rage. My dealer in Utah wanted 10,995 for their leftover 950SE and wouldn't deal on it tho I lusted after it each time I passed by. Great video!!

[@0xsergy]

that makes sense. around the same time as the HP2 release as well.. when people are struggling they aren't going to buy 20k dirtbikes. problem is a crash is coming soon as well, probably this year, so more great bikes are likely years away.

[@Peter-ox7wh]

Ktm 950 se and BMW hp2,we need these bikes again!!!

[@muertinix]

100% also the 990smr and hp2 megamoto

[@toltod]

I still have my promo DVD. I remember how much I wanted one. Thank You for the video. KTM really needs to rethink bringing back legendary V-Twin machines.

[@chasedirtbike4155]

I have one and I am as excited about riding it today as I was when I first got on it in 2008

[@SigmaSheepdog]

Excellent video! As a 950SE owner, I have to agree with just about everything that is said. I was thinking about selling mine only because of my physical limitations (spine issues,) but after seeing this video, I'm reconsidering. I have really had to slow down though. About the HP2, I feel that there were two major flaws with that bike....the dry plate clutch and the inability to change gearing. I once rode with a dude that had one and I kept smelling his burning clutch while we were doing some single track. It's definitely not an easy repair to change a clutch on that vintagr boxer. Definitely another very cool bike nevertheless.

[@doncarlo5]

the HP2 is way overpriced, you won't find one under 17 grands ... it's a lot of money

[@chasedirtbike4155]

I have a an SE. It is insanity and perfection on 2 wheels. Two trips pre running the Baja track, and countless years riding in the desert in Southern California we literally the highlights of my riding life. I keep considering selling it as I am 62 this year. It has been an almost flawless bike, with a fuel pump and voltage regulator replacement as it's only repairs in 25k miles. The suspension is like riding on a video game at 80-110mph across dry lake beds.

[@aniruddha4119]

nice how does it perform in the baja1000

[@cindywheeler2143]

Brings a smile to my dial every time I ride it!

[@BrapBang]

Excellent video. I watched this just before I purchased my own 950 SER. Lots of great info, thanks!

[@mikebrowne4028]

Such an incredible video. As a new owner of an 08' 950SE i am curious as to your street set up at 6:15?

[@therealcalspeed]

I lost my chance on a used SE several years ago. But I had the 950 ADV. Unfortunately not the same at all. Now, I think KTM is trying to bring back the sensation with the new 1090 R. I definitely didn't miss the boat this time.

[@battru8302]

2016/17 KTM 690 enduro and 950 are in my view the best looking bikes Ktm produced.

[@Underwatergoat1]

As much as the SE is legend, the 690 is much faster. With me riding anyway...

[@Devoro950SE]

I do have a 950 SE and there isn't still a new bike that i would prefer to it. The 790 Adventure will be great, but I'm definitely not going to sell de SE. Thanks for the great video. Greets from KTM's home Austria

[@lllll1234-g9q]

What a fantastic channel and video

[@chrismcdad]

Great video! I’m getting a Canadian Erzberg soon. Signing the bill of sale today!

[@chaddthompson]

IMO the SE is the same as the original 950 Adv, they were developed for racing and sold to the public and as far as the Adv goes once the ASO started clamping down on displacement it spelled the end for the Adventure and its development as a racing platform. I had an 05.5 Adventure and sold it several years back thinking that I would pick up a new Adventure in a few years but I didn't realize what KTM was going to do to the Adventure and I still don't have another.

[@nooneever]

where is the footage at 12:27 from? thats one hell of a ride :O

[@desertendurochannel8727]

a rider just south of the border

[@mikespence6313]

Late to the game but...absolutely loving my 08' 2022 October 13k miles UK purchase....I have done so much routine maintenance , including replacing all bearings...and also air filter and jetting. I'm going to be a bit different here,. Hoping to use for 2up travel to Georgia and Northern Africa...hopefully 🤔

[@chasedirtbike4155]

I have watched every last video on KZbin. This was the last one. I can honestly say there's not a bad one in the bunch

[@Britishshooter]

Fantastic bike, wish I had bought one when they were discounted. The dealers were giving them away in the end in 2009, at least here in the UK.

[@kubrayucel1406]

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[@kubrayucel1406]

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[@ToddtheLoneDroner]

Great video dude as I just bought a couple of them it taught me a lot but.. The way the 950 overheats how did they fix that issue with this puppy

[@paulfenn5060]

And I am one of the lucky few (thousand) to own one. As our narrator so ably reveals, you quickly run out of adjectives when describing this brief moment of gonzo engineering.

[@desertendurochannel8727]

they sure did get it right. Especially for a project that went so quick from concept to showroom floor. cheers!

[@doncarlo5]

keep it ... sell it and you'll regret it ...

[@bjstuhl]

Just found one on CL…I had no idea my dream bike actually existed!!!…A dream bike it'll remain, though, far out of my financial reach.

[@konichila]

Hello , very cool article on the 9050 se r. I like the way you make it onto a track bike. Can you tell me what you used to do this? What do you change and what brand wheels and tyres I mean. Because I would love to have the different set ups for trail and track. Hope you can help me. Thanks a lot in advance.

[@konichila]

I mean the bike at 6:19 off course

[@Urkain87]

I am the lucky owner of that KTMs only real competitor, would be fun to try the orange beast one day to get a real comparison to the HP2. RIDE IT OR SELL IT!

[@lastgunstar]

What a great video, thanks for posting!

[@glen4354]

HI thank you for video on KTM 950 SE I'm a love of KTM bike and and owner of a KTM but i love to own 950 SE

[@nick4506]

is the sm just a se with different weels? cuz at least in my area, se commands about double the price than sm's. also are the new 790/890 bikes a suitable replacement?

[@desertendurochannel8727]

No sir. there's the SM and SMR. The SMR is more like the SE, but still has different swingarm and front end and rake and brakes. the SM was used as the template to build the SE. yes, SE's are still pulling about twice that of SMs and about $3-$4K more than the SMR's. The SMR fuel tank, tank panels, and seat interchange with the SE. The SM fuel tank and panels do not... except the rear panel.

[@badandylaoc]

Compelling!! I'm sold! 👉💰

[@doncarlo5]

now ask yourself why KTM officials say it wasn't selling good, so they had to pull the plug ... it surely is one of the most versatile bikes that KTM ever built ... the downside of the medal is : fuel economy is pretty much a nightmare ...

[@stefanosgeorgiou5325]

watching this in December 2018....(ktm just released 790 adventure r)how happy this man can be?

[@banditleu7372]

awesome machine!!! I own 07 950 smr ...not like any other motorcycle on the road... after market exhaust and jet kit...just over 100hp...

[@desertendurochannel8727]

nice... I had an '07 SMR as well. Was beautiful. soooo much soul in that bike.

[@petergriffin4629]

How big are the differences between the Supermotos and the Enduros? I used to think, that they were identical bikes with different suspension and rims. Or to put it differently, could one turn a 950 or 990 Supermoto into an Enduro easily?

[@holeshot1721]

Its the same bike ktm thought it wouldnt sell over here in usa at that time cause enduro wasnt big at all they changed it to super moto

[@jonashestner661]

Sold mine bout 5years ago owned a couple other bikes no one ever gets close to the feeling of the SE. Regret selling it

[@carlosmurgelcddr.1418]

Thanks for the video!

[@brokentrike1243]

I have 1190r and 690r but i would give them away anyday for one of these

[@jandekker8497]

What back tire did you have on your Repsol Enduro set up ? Looks pretty big ....

[@desertendurochannel8727]

Teraflex 140

[@jandekker8497]

Were you happy with it ?

[@denis.sk928]

very nice video! congratulations! indeed, the 950 is a unique bike, from the older generation (men's time) 😁 but don't you think the 990 has a better bike idea than the 950?

[@thebasitinengineer1248]

1 of those 100 Erzberg Edition 950s came to my country's shores, in Namibia. I've seen it once in my hometown, and I am absolutely lusting after it so badly but the doctor who owns it declines any offer given to him.

[@ronhartle3268]

DesertEnduro Channel The new 790 enduro R is out. I reluctantly passed on purchasing a new SE when they came available in The USA. I don’t want to make the same mistake twice. Do you know anyone with the new bike and does it hold a candle to the SE or live up to its own hype?

[@desertendurochannel8727]

I know of a few folks with the 790 and they are praising the bike. two folks put almost 4K miles on two separate 790Rs in about a month. They had issues, but loved the bikes. I don't have first hand knowledge (yet), but most 790 owners are saying the 790 is not a direct replacement for the SE-R but it is better in some ways and lacks in others. But the lure of the SE is real and its such a great bike. Mostly the SE has more torque on the low end and just its shear back to basics design is appealing to an almost cult level that to this day is not slowing down by the die hards. I have a 790 R Rally on order. When it comes in over the next couple months I'll be putting a video together on my views of the 790R Rally as compared to one of my four previous SE's. Cheers!

[@ronhartle3268]

DesertEnduro Channel thanks 🙏🏼😁

[@petergriffin4629]

My driving instructor owns one. In the winter time he always had his displayed in his school. I didn't even know what a rarety she was.

[@Underwatergoat1]

I owned one. It was an absolute beast. I could beat R1s in a drag race up to about 60mph on the road

[@Mytubepalma101]

Anybody know what tires are mounted on º26?

[@desertendurochannel8727]

Are you asking about the tires on the stock OEM picture at 26 seconds? If so, the Tires are Metzler MCE Karoo 2 [T] 140/80-18 and 90/90-21. The [T] stands for Traveler. They are no longer produced as they have been replaced by the Karoo 3. There are no new tires to be found in the USA. There are a couple of fronts over in Poland produced in 2012. I have not found any new rears anywhere on the planet. Hope this helps. Cheers.

[@Mytubepalma101]

DesertEnduro Channel nope, at 2:52 the ones with the massive studs)))

[@desertendurochannel8727]

Ha, thats my bike with a Teraflex. Made in the US. It's a 140 and its HUGE! Doesn't wear too well and its suicide on slab, but in the soft stuff and mud it hooks up like nobody business! Cheers.

[@Mytubepalma101]

Looks more like a 180 lol. Awesome! Exactly what I need. How does it ride on hardpacked terrain and what sort of mila ge can you get out of it! Cheers and great vid!

[@desertendurochannel8727]

Rik Rijnders it doesn't wear very well IMO, but it still hooks up like crazy even worn. I've smoked one off road in the desert on my 950 in less than 200 miles. When it wears its gets very flat and the edge gets square. That said, I've heard folks get much more miles out of them not hammering them. Hard pack (like blue groove) is slippery. They work best in loose stuff, sand, mud, Loam, wet trails, etc. they roost like crazy and can almost knock a guy off a bike behind you when on the v-twin.

[@Kaegis]

Does the 1090 AR compare?

[@desertendurochannel8727]

You'd have to talk with someone who has both to compare. Never ridden a 1090. I will say I had an 1190 and 990 and the 990 and especially the 1190 had nothing on the SE off road and the SE had nothing for the 990 or 1190 on road. They each had their place. The 990 and 1190 can do off road just fine, but neither could compete with the SE when the going got tough.

[@kauxkaux]

I can get one... safe to buy? No risk of running out of parts?

[@desertendurochannel8727]

people are still selling and buying. Most engine parts are interchangeable with the 950 Adventure and 950 Super moto. Where you will run into issues are some of the plastic pieces are getting hard to find. graphics if you can find them are typically in poor shape. The radiators are no longer being produced and at this time no one is making any in the aftermarket sector. that said, there is an American vendor looking into having some made for the SE. there is a high demand for the radiator and I think they will become available sometime soon. The bash plate on the SE is a poor design and if you het something hard it will push up and damage the lower part of the radiator. parts are not as available as new bikes and you typically have to order them or wait for them from overseas so keep that in mind. great bike though. one of the few bikes with an actual soul. it was built to be ridden and is tougher than most riders.

[@kauxkaux]

DesertEnduro Channel thank you so much . Any estimate what is a fair price for a 07 with 15000 miles on the clock?

[@desertendurochannel8727]

here in the US prices vary from $6K to $9K depending on condition and how many modifications are done. $8K to $9K would require the bike to be in greta condition and have lots of accessories/modifications. With the release of the 790 the SE will no longer draw the big numbers ($10K and more) unless its a super low mileage (less than 2K miles) and showroom mint. Even then it will be hard to sell. The peak of the SE was about 3 years ago here in the US. With all the the above said, the SE is a fantastic bike, and worth every penny. There's no shame in paying more than a bike is worth if you really want one and the only alternative is walking away and never satisfying your dream or desire. I don't get hung up on resale values when its a bike i really want.

[@kauxkaux]

@@desertendurochannel8727 this one is going for $3000, so I guess it's a bargain. Not showroom condition but very clean and a couple accessories. Thinking I should grab it. Thanks for all the info.

[@desertendurochannel8727]

thats a bargin and the cheapest one I've heard of. be sure its not stolen. run the VIN to be sure and request a clear title. cheers!

[@duke7888]

Superb!! Thank you😎

[@sixandseven8s]

You got me racing a stage rally @6:32

[@desertendurochannel8727]

are you #3 or #111?

[@chriscichon3412]

I recently bought Erzberg with 700 miles on it what Machine!

[@davidandrew348]

Great video thank you

[@TS50ER]

Great video!

[@thehaze1972]

Haha! That's me at 11:47 :-)

[@pushyslayer4561]

i need this bike... 690 SMCR is cool, but.. the 950 SE, OH BOY!!! can anyone answer why i sometimes see a 990 SE?

[@pushyslayer4561]

i see.. its because i bright light the 50 can look like a 90

[@desertendurochannel8727]

@@pushyslayer4561 the bike at 12:20 has a 990 in it. There's not many, but a few have done it. This is PowerCell Performance's bike out in California.

[@Pat-RickSmith]

One of the most incredible bikes ever I owned a 2007 950 super moto and I have owned many bikes Its the coolest bike ever I raced some guy on a V Rod and smoked him lol they never learn

[@muttoj77]

That’s me having fun at a local mx track at 6:36.

[@mojaveadv7135]

Epic

[@dmumladze]

Such a grear bike and I think 1090 is heading the same direction. As far KTM discontinuing several model has to do with ever changing Euro green regulations to “save the planet” from “climate change”.

[@CasaOgrO]

I am from Brasil, here we have only 6 SE in roll country. Likely I have one, just buy it, looks like brand new, but not for so long!!!!

[@trevormitchell8703]

again, great video ok the erzberg! what I did was take two serial number down to my ktm dealer, one serial number from my berg, the other from a north American berg on ebay claiming to be 1 of the 100, my bike came back as a berg the other a standard se, so please if you are buying a berg do your research !! you can buy a ktm 950 se erzberg 08 conversion kit from ktm, but its not a berg! in Australia 2009 the berg was pre ordered and cost over $23000 numbered. take what you want from this see ya.

[@desertendurochannel8727]

Trevor, you are absolutely right about numbered Erzbergs and I now know what you are describing. Yes, absolutely none in NA were numbered. The bike you saw on eBay in NA might have been a 2008 Vin'd bike with a 2009 Title. If so, that would have been a KTM Factory produced and sold KTM non-numbered Erzberg. Yes, it is not one of the numbered 100, but it is an Erzberg all the same. The ONLY ting the numbered Erzbergs had that the 2009 NA Erzbergs did not have is the Akropovic Exhaust Silencers (due to strict NA Emission laws), adjustable footpegs, and a spare knobby tire at time of sale. If the Erzberg on eBay you saw was titled a 2008 bike, it was in fact not and Erzberg as you say. I agree completely with you, except the fact the 2009 NA non numbered Erzberg is not an Erzberg, It is the only Erzberg NA received directly from KTM and although it is not a numbered 1-100, it is not fake or a rip off. Unless someone is trying to pass it off as a real 1-100 Erzberg. Then, that would be a fake. Cheers and thanks for the information and dialog. I like to get all the information i can on these incredible bikes and appreciate your time to explain your situation to me.

[@trevormitchell8703]

thank you for all the hard work you have put in, thanks again for the video, cant wait for the 790 adv!

[@billywilliams8833]

Hp2 IS Awesome 💖

[@joseaguirre7517]

Hello!!! ! Mike!!!!

[@motospey2557]

True!!

[@DonDutch-bm2iq]

i have the 690. i want this bike tho

[@Grandventure_]

❤

[@veetwotls]

LOL & thats stock :-) Love my SE 13:18 old pic mine been lot more modded since then

[@desertendurochannel8727]

ICO BG is that you piloting the SE like an SX?

[@Thumpermad]

well when the big brands discontinue their big thumper due to emissions laws we might actually see them again fingers crossed eh

[@PeakyBlinder]

I am a superduke r rider and the bike in this vid is my dream, I have loved this for years, I would love to ride one. I have owned 4 600rs by honda so you can see where my love for this beast has steamed from. If there is anyone in the UK with one, Pm me. If your willing to let me have a go. Please. Thanks.

[@Underwatergoat1]

I killed a rear tyre in one day once. On the way from London to Ireland.

[@desertendurochannel8727]

Done that a few times as well. But not across the pond. The desert here is hard on tires on the SE.

[@kevinkeating9076]

I have a 990 adventure 08 model .........should move it on ............then I ride it...........on road ..............off road ...........cannot part with it .........far too traumatic .............Kev . Australia

[@desertendurochannel8727]

I had a 990 as well.... great bike... sold it with about 150km and the motor had not been apart. great bike

[@generaldistrust]

KTM practically did more than a deckade ago -what YAMAHA is teasing us for too long: A SWEET SUPER-TORQUEY CROSSPLANE-POWERED ALL-ROUNDER BIKE! NOW, with the return with the newer crossplane "790" -we might be honored to witness a rebirth of a newer legend.. say? Who knows, it might even come out BEFORE YAMAHA'S alleged T700 🤣🤣🤣

[@trabanlolo698]

sorry le 16/03/2021 !

[@trevormitchell8703]

great vid but there is only 100 erzbergs numbered 1 to 100, in south American you have a stickered up se, yes I own a erzberg, do your research, don't buy the south American model it is not the real deal, just look at them side buy side, check serial number, don't get caught, there is ONLY 100!!!!

[@desertendurochannel8727]

Trevor, unless you can provide proof, I will have to disagree with you. I've done over 5 years of research on the SE. I've owned several. If you have proof Erzbergs can be identified by serial number, please post it up. If you have proof only 100 were built (not reguratated press reports statements), please post it up. I can't speak to South American Erzbergs as I don't live there. But if the North American Erzbergs (they don't wear upper triple clamp numbered badges like the EU Erzbergs) sold by Factory KTM Dealers are fake, please post up your proof as you might be one ton something. I will correct the info in the video if you have some data. We need to know what research you are talking about. Thanks.

[@trevormitchell8703]

again, great video!! just take your vin/chassis number down to your local ktm dealer and ask him or her to verify it is a berg as I did, I also took down the vin/chassis number of a north American berg, came back just a 950 se not a berg! ktm web site states that there were 100 only. in the USA I see bergs for sale saying this is one of the 100, Canada march 2017 $16500 thinking it is one of the 100, in Australia the berg was pre ordered 6 months out and was worth $23000 ride away 2009.you can buy an erzberg kit 08 Europe 2008 conversion kit erzberg edition, again if you are looking to buy a berg, check the serial number, for eu burgs the number will match the number on the top triple clamp, hope this is a help.? last one I saw for sale was number 41 in England I think. if any one can tell me what the go is with the north American model I would thank you very much, get called a dick at work all the time nothing new there!!!

[@raymondblacklock]

I have an '09 Erzberg that I purchased used in 2012. It had 300 miles on it and had been in storage for 2 yrs. I agree, you see far to many of them in videos and for sale to be so few. @@desertendurochannel8727

[@nappyboy5513]

So little it almost had same as superduke.

[@SNARFOLA]

dear ktm i have cash!!Also I want a B-King!!what the crap???

[@bignose140]

Lbs, Feet, Gallons, When are you guys gonna catch up with the rest of the world?

[@christianjones4042]

Got them to the moon