The torque spec on the bolts for the belleville washer are critical according to KTM. The single spring/belleville washer is very sensitive to pressure
@Tikkikoira4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dirt bike tv, Your channel is honestly one of the better enduro channels on youtube. Keep up with good work sir.
@dirtbiketv14 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@reginalarenasmoran1184Ай бұрын
Im a B class MX rider, probably actually more like C Jeje have 64hrs on my stock KTM 2 stroke... Should I change my clutch plates or have more time ? thanks man, channel is the bomb
@codenamenoob49734 жыл бұрын
KTM have the strongest stock clutches in the business 😉
@canonleahy36153 жыл бұрын
i’m like 150 hours on the stock clutch
@danortiz51012 жыл бұрын
i forgot to put the transmission oil in my gear box the other and i ride my bike like 300 feet until i remenber i didn't put the oil,now my bike has not power at all , do you think i burn out the clutch?
@adamdd82832 жыл бұрын
@@danortiz5101 I accidentally ran premix oil in my tranny for 3 ride (5 hours) before noticing my mistake when going to replace the oil. I'm just now replacing the plates after 206 hours and I've only started noticing slipping in the last 4 hours. These things are bomb proof.
@danortiz51012 жыл бұрын
@@adamdd8283 nothing happened in my bike right now is running perfect
@lippser11 ай бұрын
Dumb question, but do you drain the trans oil before you take the cover off and start doing your work? Never done it before so that’s why I’m asking.
@TheMocard Жыл бұрын
2018 KTM 500 is 6nm criss cross on belleville washer .. and if the spring isn't level then you have to change bolt location to a lower number hole to put more pressure on it... 10nm for the outside 8mm bolts.
@everythingmichael5676 Жыл бұрын
How do you know if the spring is level
@TheMocard Жыл бұрын
@@everythingmichael5676 clutch would slip
@BryanVaughanDirty302 жыл бұрын
Awesome video jay! There isn’t many out there like this I’ve sent many to this vid!
@MangJoseTV4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this tips. I'm a huge dirt bike lover. Really like your contents.
@dirtbiketv14 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@tinymotogarage2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Jay. My 250 (2013) rattles like a B when the lever is out but quiet when it's in - any ideas? Forums tell me it's either "normal" or "complete disaster" (as usual).
@dirtbiketv12 жыл бұрын
Email Jay directly with any questions. Contact info in About tab.
@KristofSX4 жыл бұрын
hehe perfect timing! gonna do that tomorrow :) the torque spec on bolts is only 5Nm btw :P
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@boblogIIIfan3 ай бұрын
Would be nice for some info on the order in which the discs and fibres go in, considering they are not all the same thickness
@randerson77612 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. 2 items I may need to check.
@Danman19724 жыл бұрын
Its called a belleville washer or also refereed to as a spring washer.
@rcarle4 жыл бұрын
Good video Jay. Next time you change my clutch I'll pull up this video for you.
@dougeagan91234 жыл бұрын
I'll be buying clutches for my ktm 200xc soon and was curious if you have ever tried the Tusk clutches that rocky mountain sells.
@jasonhetreed66319 ай бұрын
Hi, any differences in changing the clutch on a 2024 KTM 85 SX? Cheers, great channel.
@leeirwindrums27657 ай бұрын
Very similar but the 85 has 3 screws on the spring instead of 5…also the manual doesn’t mention the 2 thinner metal plates but the OEM clutch pack def has them
@spencerclark22694 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I was thinking of changing my clutch soon so I’ll definitely use this. Thanks.
@Rickymtnatvmc Жыл бұрын
6nm make sure to use a feeler gauge and a straight edge to inspect the clearance on the spring washer. ✌🏾
@everythingmichael5676 Жыл бұрын
How much clearance is there supposed to be, could you explain or send me a video of some sort explaining, I just did mine for the first time on my race bike and want to make sure everything is perfect
@OG-Hulkfish5.04 жыл бұрын
Great information, Thanks Jay
@user-sp8eb6iz7f2 жыл бұрын
Neither Suzuki or Yamaha say that soaking is necessary. I agree that it can't hurt, because it's a wet clutch, so the plates will end up getting oily, but it isn't going to help either. The oil level on most motorcycles is just below the bottom of the clutch basket, so the plates don't ever actually soak unless the bike is on it's side (Let's not do that!). Because or the high RPM's of the clutch basket (sometimes exceeding 14,000) any oil that gets to the clutch basket gets flung off anyway. This myth of soaking the clutch plates before installation probably came from the fact that assembling a completely dry clutch can cause the fibers to seize to the steel plates. It is for this reason that every steel plate should be covered with engine oil (both sides!) during installation. Soaking the fibers is both time consuming and unneccesary. Do you think factory certified technicians, who get paid comission, are wasting time soaking clutch plates for an hour? Just coat the steel plates and get on with it. Now here's the thing with EBC clutch fibers. Most are made of kevlar, which is different than the organic compound used on OEM plates. Kevlar based fibers should not be soaked before installation, and when the bike is started, the clutch should be slipped a few times to spin off any excess oil. It is the excess oil that causes the fibers and steels to stick together with this type of fiber plate. That's why the bike doesn't want to roll with the clutch lever pulled when the engine isn't running. This is also why kevlar based fibers are preferred by some over OEM style (less slip, more stick), and also explains the "grabbiness". Gotta give a little to get a little. You just have to decide for yourself if you want to make a little sacrifice for some gain in grab and clutch life. Finally do NOT use full synthetic oil with kevlar type clutch fibers. What's the lesson here? Coat your steel plates with oil and get on with it.
@robertpetty4649 Жыл бұрын
Just watched this for the first time. That spring is known as a Belleville washer. Might wanna warn folks about the washer between the throwout bearing and bottom of the hub being stuck together...and sometimes being lost. The torque spec on that Belleville washer is critical to proper operation/lifespan of the clutch...it should not be guessed at. This is not a japanese bike. Other than that, pretty easy and painless for anyone to do with minimal tools.
@davideagle46292 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a 2022 sx250 with 37 hours on it and I race motocross. Any idea when I should change the clutch?
@dirtbiketv12 жыл бұрын
Yes - email me. Contact info in About tab.
@JohnVanHolt4 жыл бұрын
I replaced mine with the Rekluse torque drive pack. Wasn't very expensive and has a nice feel.
@gophop4 жыл бұрын
how does it feel different?
@alveyhighway4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love 2 stroke any time of the day !! Ha ha love it good work
@5thgearpinnedmedia935 ай бұрын
I know this is an older video but was wondering how similar this would be for a 23/24 yz450f
@tripwowee30753 жыл бұрын
Has this guy never heard about cris cross pattern 😂
@ElijahMarchand-lo3pn7 ай бұрын
Do you have a link for the clutch kit? I have the same clutch but can’t find plates for it.
@WillyD1 Жыл бұрын
You ever have a little surface rust on those the kit I bought had a few spots I used steel wool cleaned them up
@michaelpope31243 ай бұрын
Fantastic tutorial. Thx
@alveyhighway4 жыл бұрын
So Jay question.. I've taken your advice and switched over to running Rotella in my bike.. I have a 2020 crf450rwe.. I feel like the clutch feels a little jittery now.. what do you think ?
@justinvandermerwe74283 жыл бұрын
Late reply soz.. dont use car oil in your bike car oil has anti friction chemicals in that slips the plates so they dont grab properly use bike oil. No friction modifiers in it. Hope that helps
@michaelcox71012 жыл бұрын
No torque wrench on any if that?
@randerson77612 жыл бұрын
torque spec 55 INCH pounds. Very light tension on the BELLEVILLE washer.
@mke7876 Жыл бұрын
Is there a gasket that goes on before you put the cover on?
@ziapride3 жыл бұрын
What was the brake spring replacement that you are using? The one that replaces the front spring.
@mikewelling70286 ай бұрын
I just broke one from the bolts of the disc spring, what do I do now?
@WWRT88w4 жыл бұрын
What do the 1, 2, 3 marks do on the pressure plate? I got a new 2018 KTM 250 xcf a month back to learn trail/enduro riding and I use the clutch a bunch to hill climb. I was wondering if it would increase the "spring" pressure. Also, about how many hours before doing a clutch? Thanks for the help and videos.
@Danman19724 жыл бұрын
They do increase the preload on the spring. You want that washer to stay flat though. I have 130 on my 300 and just did the plates. Also, at those hours make sure the replace the rubber dampers in the hub. About a few bucks and well worth it.
@WWRT88w4 жыл бұрын
@@Danman1972 Thanks for the tips.
@baotpitulas1621 Жыл бұрын
what is the number and ratio of primary and secondary gears in the primary reduction
@jakemyles764 Жыл бұрын
Did you need to replace the clutch cover gasket?
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
Email Jay with questions. Contact info in About tab.
@sammyyoadventures.9652 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for tuition 👍👍
@JaxsunHood502 жыл бұрын
Hey jay, I got a 2013 KTM 250xc that won’t pull at all. Tranny fluid looked fine. No metal shavings out of the ordinary. Would this be the clutch?
@dirtbiketv12 жыл бұрын
Email Jay with any questions - contact info in About tab.
@wesleynaylor3972 жыл бұрын
Super helpful, thank you
@georgiivanov9009 Жыл бұрын
shoud i change the metal plates with new when i change the fiber plates ?
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
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@smashmunro Жыл бұрын
Hi, would this be similar for a 2007 KTM 450 EXC?
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
Email Jay. Contact info in About tab.
@timetter70622 жыл бұрын
Wow no springs? Is that cable clutch only?
@philipsmith61524 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, what do the number 1,11,111 on the ring mean, does 1 give less clutch bite, more etc ?
@dirtbiketv14 жыл бұрын
Yes 1 lighter 3 more tighter feel
@TheCarlejoseph4 жыл бұрын
Good video thanks!
@dirtbiketv14 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@haloreach107able3 жыл бұрын
Will a 2011 ktm 300 XC-W recluse fit in a 2004 Ktm 250 exc-f?
@dirtbiketv13 жыл бұрын
I doubt it but call them to see
@gabrielattias52833 жыл бұрын
Hello, What material do you soak the clutch pads in at the beginning of the video?
@dirtbiketv13 жыл бұрын
In the same oil you use in your engine
@56Moto2 жыл бұрын
(Torq specs for the pressure plate is 6nm )
@STRIMIX3 жыл бұрын
Does this go for a husaberg te300 2011. Basicly the same bike as a 300 exc? My bike creeps in first gear even when warm. I want to change the plates.
@PackedandReadyFranco4 жыл бұрын
AWSOME VIDEO
@1down5up_enduro2 жыл бұрын
Do you pre-soak in any oil? Would it be fine to soak in engine oil like 10-40?
@dirtbiketv12 жыл бұрын
Yea
@LaurenceHoneytoast4 жыл бұрын
I put this in as you described and now my clutch won’t engage properly. The bike wants to creep in first gear even with the clutch lever completely pulled in has anyone experienced this?
@dirtbiketv14 жыл бұрын
First of all is the bike all the way warmed up and you had oil pre soaked the plates-- sorry but sounds like something is off-- email me if continues
@LaurenceHoneytoast4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your reply I made sure I soaked them for a good long while and then let the bike idle up to operating temp. It wants to creep in gear, however when I twist the throttle nothing. I did see wear or notched marks on the basket which is still stock maybe that could be it?
@dirtbiketv14 жыл бұрын
What bike are you on? Have you bleed the clutch ?
@LaurenceHoneytoast4 жыл бұрын
I’m on a 14 250 xcfw. Absolutely I bled it per the manual several times no air bubbles the lever pull feels like new. I checked for a leak at the slave and master cylinder and haven’t been able to find one.
@jayclark34254 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceHoneytoast If the basket has grooves that could be an issue but we usually dont see the on the current KTM's but maybe on this 2014 its possible
@lozadazx144 жыл бұрын
Thanks jay I have the same bike!!!🔥✌️
@craftgeniusideas88564 жыл бұрын
Unique video, keep it up😍
@TheZakkmylde3 жыл бұрын
Any idea what a 2013 350 excf clutch is ? Trying to figure out if I need the clutch holding tool so I can replace the rubber dampeners and clutch plates ect.
@ryan9802 жыл бұрын
Its exact same as the one hes doing in this video pal
@TheZakkmylde2 жыл бұрын
@@ryan980 that was one year ago 🤣👍🏼
@Gregg01124 жыл бұрын
What ktm bikes use the dds clutch?
@dirtbiketv14 жыл бұрын
I dont have a good list but most of the current 2017 and up all do. If you really wondering about a certain model check the microfiche at clutch to see.
@D1rTyB1kEr4 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me when is the time to replace old clutch springs to new ones and how hard is it to do? So far none in these kind of videos have not change them
@xr280xr4 жыл бұрын
I would imagine if your clutch pads are fine and you're still feeling slippage, but I'm not a real gear head.
@MannyRodriguez55510 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the difference in steel plate thickness
@dREaDneck_Moto8 ай бұрын
Belvile disc spring
@SksToTheMini143 жыл бұрын
8:29 torque spec
@ianshort21293 жыл бұрын
Bevel spring👆
@lalo1276 Жыл бұрын
bro says he can break a bolt w drill but continues to use the drill 😢