Kuala Lumpur 🇲🇾 vs Saigon 🇻🇳 (Which City is Better?)

[@keangwooichoo6138]

You forgot medical services. Hands down kl. When you are dying in saigon, you will remember kl.

[@tinydetour]

Yeah we missed medical services... may be in some future videos we might include. KL is definitely far ahead, but to be honest there are some good international hospital and medical centres in saigon. I got dental check ups there and it want bad. Although I wouldn't have much idea about serious operations etc

[@tinydetour]

*it wasnt bad

[@keangwooichoo6138]

@tinydetour you also forgot cleanliness and pollution index too.

[@stanleytanyitfoong]

🤣🤣🤣

[@keangwooichoo6138]

@tinydetour I never come across vlogs by tourists doing major operations in Indonesia, philippines or Vietnam. Dental is not really a major medical procedure.

[@nuts1755]

Malaysian here! Loved saigon went there few years ago but grass are greener on the other side😂😂 The people was nice, some people can speak decent malay and it wasnt that hot compared to kl. However it was a challange to find halal food. Both countries win!

[@tinydetour]

Yes, we did notice that we find the weather to be nice, esp in the north... yes halal food options is a bit challenging, but it's increasing esp indian and arab food

[@Tawanpawatt]

They prolly champa people

[@shahrimanshahnaz7008]

Considering Vietnam was just out of their war time misery around 40 years back, I'll give a thumbs up for them for what they have achieved so far. Btw as a kid i had witnessed a big ship full load of Vietnamese refugees back in the late 70s at the shore of east coast Malaysia.

[@tinydetour]

💯 agree! They are on the up. Actually, they just stabilised in the 90s. By then malaysia was way ahead. But vietnam is picking up, and if they continue in 10 yrs they will be in a great position

[@kopxpert]

8:30 I heard "big fckn malls" but then I replayed it and ahh.. perhaps he said "big shopping malls" 😂😂

[@tinydetour]

Lol 😆

[@Ryanr_528]

Hii, soo glad to see these videos!! Also I notice on 6:19 mins Yara is holding a arts&craft activity we did during class!! Miss her sooo much! Tell her Teacher Ryan says “Hii” 😊

[@tinydetour]

Hey Mr Ryan... good to hear from you. How have you been? Thank you, we will let her know. We wanted to say goodbye, but heard you had left. Hope all is well on your side? Btw, did you get to watch the video we did on the school? Take care

[@Ryanr_528]

@@tinydetour Yes, Your videos inspired me to work remotely and be a freelancer. I’m in a much better place now. I did get to see the video. So happy Yara is getting to be a young traveler and experiencing the world 🌏👍🏼

[@tinydetour]

Oh wow, really? That's so awesome 👌 what are you doing now? Teaching online? We are really happy for you and wish u all the best.. yara has talked about u a few times since we left. You made a positive impact on her, thank you 😊

[@Ryanr_528]

@@tinydetour A bit of that and digital marketing to get me started. Really looking forward to seeing more travel vlogs around the world 😃 👨‍👩‍👧 ✈️.. I wanted to ask if you ever considered showing more foods from the country you visit and details about the texture/flavors/ratings?

[@tinydetour]

That's nice :) we have actually pivoted our channel from Travel vlogs to more information based videos where we will be covering topics like location and financial independence. We did a listical of foods in malaysia and might do something similar in Indonesia 🇮🇩 ♥️

[@riyabejoy5158]

Ultimately this is just a gap year for them, they are only able to do this from having worked/lived in Australia. Mark my words they will head bacj to Oz after their travels and perhaps move interstate.

[@tinydetour]

👌👍

[@sitimariambintibasharie9711]

Vietnam is nice country. Msian people love shopping there due to cheaper prices. Cuisine and coffee are amazing. But for muslim, the choices of halal food are quite limited.

[@tinydetour]

For sure

[@HappyGolfCart-uz3ft]

I love to have a short break holiday in Thailand n Vietnam...but for long term stay in term modern infrastructures n medical facilities , education facilities .. communication skills, people friendliness n cultural vibrancy i prefer Malaysia 🎉..tq

[@tinydetour]

💯

[@Kushal978]

I would choose Saigon because have been there twice as well as cost of living in Saigon is reasonable and Vietnamese food is one of the best for its cuisine

[@tinydetour]

Saigon is really nice, and will continue to get better 👌

[@deanrich856]

Hi @tinydetour, I think your family is more suitable to stay and live in Vietnam. I am Malaysian and I would be happy if your family can choose Saigon for your new home and Good Luck.

[@tinydetour]

👌

[@acid-cl2js]

As Malay Malaysian i love u all my brother and sister.

[@tinydetour]

🤩

[@Yasin_Affandi]

100% KL, Malaysia. You can stay in Saigon if you want to.

[@tinydetour]

Hey Friend - yeah both are really good, and we like both. But Malaysia has the edge :)

[@Yasin_Affandi]

@@tinydetour Hey there. KL, Malaysia could be better in many ways. 😀

[@ashrafuddinahmad5497]

Very Interesting…Thank you guys

[@tinydetour]

🙏

[@xiaomashitu]

Glad KL in the list =) We always welcome everyone

[@tinydetour]

🙏

[@enchesoyaregaliaatriadelig5951]

We Malaysian love Vietnam... Great country to visit, beautiful n warm people... But we love Malaysia 🇲🇾 more... 😂😂😂😂

[@tinydetour]

Ofcourse 💯.. where in vietnam have you been?

[@siddd88]

5:52 Grab is a Malaysian founded company. Headquartered in Singapore it's founded in Malaysia 12years ago now available throughout south east Asian countries

[@tinydetour]

Ok

[@kopxpert]

One thing u didn't mention (probably because it's not relevant to u and your travels) are the petrol prices. The price of petrol per litre in Malaysia is HALF the price of petrol in Vietnam. So if u plan to drive around with your own vehicle, Malaysia is a lot cheaper. Malaysia's petrol price is the 4TH lowest per litre in Asia and 9TH lowest in the world. In that sense, I don't get why GRAB taxis are cheaper in Vietnam. I think We Malaysians need to come together and complain harder with the GRAB prices haha😂

[@tinydetour]

Yeah that's something I considered as well. Like when we were in MY we thought grab prices are really reasonable but in vietnam it was actually cheaper.

[@asrie1234]

*Olso we want a very good people, Welcome to Malaysia truly Asia good food, people beautiful beach, skyscrapers & others, Msian likes to lepak Mamak drink Teh Tarik Jom joining Malaysian 🇲🇾💙🧡♥️💙🇲🇾*

[@tinydetour]

🙏😊

[@leealex24]

Saigon has progressed a lot but I think cities like KL are more correctly compared with cities like Bangkok, Hong Kong. In fact, in Mercer quality of living ranking KL is ranked 80+ in the world close to cities like Dubai, HK and Seoul. I foresee in years to come, KL would be ranked top 50 - 60.

[@tinydetour]

Yeah agree 💯... that's why at the end we premised this exact point that it wasn't quite a fair comparison..

[@santjitsidhu6790]

Nice comparison. Where have u settled after leaving Australia? Please share. Thanks. Regards from Malaysia

[@tinydetour]

Not yet still travelling

[@keshavfulbrook6698]

Clothes made in VN for export need to be re-imported with tariff if they are from and international brand which is why they are more expensive in VN (if even available) than in KL

[@tinydetour]

I see

[@nurhanaprinting9444]

Citing the 2023/2024 edition of the State of the Global Islamic Economy (SGIE) report, HDC said Malaysia secured first place in Islamic finance, halal food, and media and recreation, coupled with a commendable second-place ranking in “modest fashion”, third spot in pharmaceuticals and fifth in tourism.

[@tinydetour]

Ok

[@ngocdang1581]

Nice video :)

[@tinydetour]

Thank you so much

[@dinn-mj4nx]

For a long-term stay, Yes KL is better than Saigon... Saigon is of course a very fun and happy place to visit 😎

[@tinydetour]

I think we can stay long term in both places, but for saigon, we need a cook who can make international food hehe

[@kalpeshpatil7551]

How about the cleanliness in both both the cities?

[@tinydetour]

Both are quite clean, KL is cleaner though

[@alyahamzah1952]

I think it depends what you are looking for. For Muslims, i think Malaysia is best in south east asia. Halal food is easy to find, many mosques everywhere, easier to practice your faith as a muslim in general. Oh ya, we can also openly support Palestine and condemn genocide without fear of any unwanted repercussions.

[@tinydetour]

Malaysia, even though a muslim majority country, has a substantial non Muslim population. And we think it's a great country to live in regardless of one's faith

[@anne2358]

I'm from Malaysia , I visit Vietnam before but in ho chi Minh city, I think it's very beautiful city. As a Muslim it very hard to find halal food there. I hope Vietnam will improve it, coz I love that city.

[@tinydetour]

Yeah it's a really nice city. Halal food is slowly increasing, like you have more indian and arabic options now

[@Khang-qy7nd]

KL good to live ,Thailand n Vietnam good for holiday

[@tinydetour]

Why do you think so?

[@askarsepoi]

The choice just simple, those prefer muslim vibes may go for Malaysia, and for the opposite, go for Vietnam..

[@tinydetour]

Hmm

[@aungmyintoo4635]

Kuala lampur is not islamic city. It is so liberal, the Chinese and Indian culture are prominent. It is more like New York rather than Riyadh.

[@tinydetour]

There is no issue with multi cultural ism in Islam. That is why you have Muslims from different ethnicity around the world

[@alyahamzah1952]

​@@aungmyintoo4635 well in KL it is easier to find halal food, u can hear the azan 5x a day, no issues to find a place to pray as there are many mosques and musollas can be found in every malls and most office buildings. The toilets mostly have bidets because Muslims need to wash up after nature calls. It is not Saudi Arabia but calling it NYC is a long stretch. I don't think the public will take it too kindly if somebody started a rally supporting Israel or decided to do a LGBTQ parade in the middle of KL. So I dont think KL is as 'liberal' as that and for the majority Muslims here, we want it to remain that way.

[@keangwooichoo6138]

But you are correct, just unfair to compare kl and saigon. Also kl is the capital city, Hanoi is the capital. Why pick hcm city to compare?

[@tinydetour]

Because we lived in both cities for similar duration and both are the biggest metropolitan cities in their respective countries 🙂

[@siddd88]

Saigon it's not Vietnam's capital. It's Hanoi. It's overtaking the capital itself n they have diff history. It's like if Singapore is still in Malaysia. In Malaya era, Singapore is the main capital while Kuala Lumpur was the 2nd. Now Malaysian 2nd city is Penang. It's like KL with seafront n beaches.

[@tinydetour]

Where did we say saigon is the capital of Vietnam?

[@siddd88]

@@tinydetour no where. It's just a statement that sometime some people just don't realise that saigon it's not their capital actually. It progressed to the extent of overtaking their capital itself maybe due to strategical factors. There r number of countries wth largest city is not their capital such as dubai Istanbul New York Sydney Shanghai etc

[@tinydetour]

I see, understood. Yeah I totally understand what you mean... its the similar like Australia - Canberra is the capital, but some people think its Sydney.. by the way thanks for watching our video :)

[@ajun78]

❤❤❤👍👍👍

[@tinydetour]

🙏

[@galaxystarsflower2604]

Saigon the best

[@tinydetour]

hehe

[@emmetpastor434]

Why not compare KL with Singapore in a fair way ?

[@tinydetour]

What's a fair way?

[@telfordrunners3254]

Prefer Hanoi it's colder there in winter ❄️

[@tinydetour]

Loved Hanoi..would have loved to stay a bit longer

[@LisaLisa-mo2tg]

Romanian my home town.. Visit Vietnam.. This city so beautiful and modern.. I never heard about kuala lumpur.. Maybe visit kuala lumpur i hope,because my husband get scary about our kid safety in malaysia..coz we had bad memory in india..

[@tinydetour]

Hi Lisa, vietnam is really nice, but malaysia is a fantastic place for families with kids. And it's extremely safe, esp KL

[@enchesoyaregaliaatriadelig5951]

We understand your concern but comparing India Vs Malaysia is outrageous 😂😂😂 With more than a billion population, anything unwanted events might be happening rather than in 30 millions people. About the safety here, It's still manageable I guess... Precautions and awareness may keep you out from any trouble. Please do come n visit us...

[@leealex24]

Saigon has progressed a lot but I think cities like KL are more correctly compared with cities like Bangkok, Hong Kong. In fact, in Mercer quality of living ranking KL is ranked 80+ in the world close to cities like Dubai, HK and Seoul. I foresee in years to come, KL would be ranked top 50 - 60.

[@bulukaki]

You either watch too much mainstream western media or your geography is simply weak or both. Asians hate ignorants btw especially Malaysian.

[@razamughal9095]

@@enchesoyaregaliaatriadelig5951 Is malaysia safe for a 16 year old boy walking around at night in KL?

[@jimingchan6384]

I've been to Vietnam and all i know is.. Vietnamese girls, massages,beer and cigarettes are way cheaper than in KL..😂😂😂

[@tinydetour]

🤣

[@AlanKangBanMeng-sv5en]

Why compare public transportation between malaysia and vietnam now. We don't agreed bangkok transportation is better then malaysia. Tell us what you know about public transport in kl i dont think you know anything about public transport in malaysia.

[@tinydetour]

Okay, you are right, we don't know anything about PT in Malaysia 🙂🙏

[@nurhanaprinting9444]

for me vietnam is more hard to bring family...

[@tinydetour]

Yeah? Why is that

[@keangwooichoo6138]

One of the world's polluted cities. Like Jakarta, Delhi.

[@keangwooichoo6138]

Vietnam is cheap on beers. Only a few places are worth staying. Da nang, nha trang and some say hoi an.

[@tinydetour]

Yeah if you want a laid back lifestyle. We did consider da nang, but for us, with a child and schooling, saigon was a better option. I suppose it really depends on one's personal circumstances. Have you been to hanoi and the north? We loved that place

[@keangwooichoo6138]

@tinydetour check the pollution index. You hv a child.

[@keangwooichoo6138]

My buddy went there with the wife and mother after chinese new year. He gave a thumbs down to vietnam.

[@tinydetour]

Fair enough. It's all subjective....

[@90taetaeya]

Absolutely Saigon, Malaysia has no human rights!

[@tinydetour]

According to human rights rating, Malaysia ranks much higher btw

[@ShineOfSmiles]

Bangladesh better 😂

[@tinydetour]

Hehe

[@keangwooichoo6138]

Then why they are not staying in dhaka?

[@ShineOfSmiles]

@@keangwooichoo6138 they are Bangladeshi that is why I mentioned Bangladesh. I suggested them to go back to their motherland. If you watched their other videos they have been asking others where they should consider to live. If one has to made a video like this and compare with other countries which is by far far from Malaysia (just use the phone cable lines in the city of each SEA country, other than SG) one will know how far is the developement has been. So I would like to end my comment is, if you want to compare like this, either 🇸🇬 or back to 🇧🇩. We welcome folks with genuine heart wanting to make Malaysia their home. Not compared with other countries.

[@keangwooichoo6138]

@ShineOfSmiles yes I know. I am with you as country or location comparison is futile in my opinion. No point to compare. Different people, different requirements in life.

[@ShineOfSmiles]

@@keangwooichoo6138 exactly! and the hilarious part is that, when you read their responses to some of the comment below, when one said Saigon/VN/HCM this is better, this and that, they replied as 'but KL is better ...' duh! that is just lame! LOL!! So, question is, why are you even bothered to compare from the beginning?! And it is not apple to apple. If they still 'feel' the need to compare, compare Singapore City and KL!!

[@khaizulkarl9876]

i’m so sick with this kind of vlog..always compare Malaysia vs other…why don’t you compare yourself with other people or your neighbours.. harap2 malaysian tak subcribe or termakan dgn vlog hampeh mcm ni…cukup2 la dgn konoha, ni nak start dgn Saigon lagi..

[@tinydetour]

May be then watch the 100s of other ''nice videos'' on youtube.. fyi - we do these kind of videos for information purposes... so those who find value, we are happy for them

[@Yasin_Affandi]

Don't be sick. This family is trying to figure out which city and country is the best place to call their new home. Perhaps, a comparison between Australia where they came from, with Bangladesh, India or Pakistan, and the other Commonwealth countries, could give some sense of direction. You don't have to watch their comparison videos, you have a choice of freedom.

[@yuyij6703]

People compare. That’s natural. It’s not unique to KL alone. People have their own preferences and more dangerously hidden agendas. However comparison videos by short term travelling vloggers are not as reliable as those made by the natives themselves. They are also not as objective simply because they are vloggers not some professional travel experts. The best way is to buy a plane ticket to Saigon, live there a few years before you make the comparisons yourself. I usually give vloggers’ reviews a pass. There is no need to be emo. I have been to KL thousands of times, Saigon and Hanoi twice but if I am given a choice where to live I would still choose my hometown Tloh. Different grasshoppers prefer different fields. Hence I don’t mind if they put KL worse than let say Temerloh, I am living in Tloh where I rate Tloh to be better than KL, Calcutta or Tokyo 😊😊. However it’s your unpleasant reaction that gives KL a bad name. Some vloggers might be neutral to your reaction but many others might turn vengeful.

[@tat2547]

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

[@ShineOfSmiles]

💯

[@fauzanriez9472]

Being educated people its quite a wonder you could not pronounce Kuala Lumpur properly. Its not Kuala Lampor. All the letter 'U's in Kuala Lumpur are pronounced like U in sugar. No wonder you don't have that many subscribers.

[@tinydetour]

Thank you for further educating us 🙏

[@phillip244]

​@@tinydetouras you can see there are ULTRA Malay Malaysians. This one apparently doesn't have the finesse in him. Apologies on behalf of cultured Malaysians.

[@tinydetour]

It's okay, buddy... no need to apologise. We have chosen this path, and growing a thick skin is a part of it 😉

[@xanithkl]

I like the country side of vietnam, just hope it’s easier to get halal food. Other than that, I like Vietnam.

[@tinydetour]

💯 agreed

[@nurkhairizadmd.zawawi9975]

Viet kinda like korean in psyche. They want it fast and efficient. They’re kinda go go go mentality 😂

[@tinydetour]

That's mainly on the roads hehe