La Petite Ceinture: What Happened to Paris's Lost Railway?

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The Tim Traveller

The Tim Traveller

4 жыл бұрын

In 1900, the Petite Ceinture railway carried 38 million passengers in a single year. But by 1934 its stations were closed forever. What happened? Why was it abandoned? And why do the tracks seem to have been kept in good condition? I went to Paris to find out more...
(Apologies for occasional shakey footage in this video: a few shots were filmed last year before I bought my nice smooth camera.)

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@EmptySirens
@EmptySirens 4 жыл бұрын
Someone drew a nice image of the Eiffel Tower at 7:00 for tourists to easily find it when visiting the railway! So clever!
@shizukagozen777
@shizukagozen777 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@mathieumansire372
@mathieumansire372 4 жыл бұрын
thats not the eifel tower , thats my dick
@BloPsy__
@BloPsy__ 4 жыл бұрын
@@mathieumansire372 Oof that's kinda small. Yikes
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know they drew it at 7am ? ;p
@voidofspaceandtime4684
@voidofspaceandtime4684 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kyrelel either 7 pm or am. not super specific, could be either of those minutes on the hour
@caminokid66
@caminokid66 4 жыл бұрын
"If you're watching this video in the future..." I think actually we all are.
@herrbonk2211
@herrbonk2211 3 жыл бұрын
Not me though, im watching this from the past.
@blacklanner5886
@blacklanner5886 3 жыл бұрын
@@herrbonk2211 Hey I'm in 1936 and I'm looking for you. Let's meet up in a dark alley!
@herrbonk2211
@herrbonk2211 3 жыл бұрын
Black Lanner specify.
@Nugcon
@Nugcon 3 жыл бұрын
I'm reading this comment from the future
@falrus
@falrus 3 жыл бұрын
@@blacklanner5886 Okay, you must read this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine Try to understand. It will be important pretty soon
@JamesTilsley1
@JamesTilsley1 4 жыл бұрын
Most cities would kill for an orbital railway yet Paris has one but doesn’t want to use it. Madness.
@jeanr2808
@jeanr2808 4 жыл бұрын
actually there are 2 tram lines that make a full loop around Paris, and now the required transportation would be a loop further away from Paris
@simsportif
@simsportif 4 жыл бұрын
Those lines are overburdened though.
@infirmux
@infirmux 4 жыл бұрын
They are considering it in dignity, no need to rush with no elegance. France might be one of more conservative countries in some areas.
@LeDore38
@LeDore38 4 жыл бұрын
You have the 2 and 6 metro lines as more central orbital railway. The tramways T2a and T2b more or less follow the petite ceinture (except for the 16th district but it should be completed in the near future). And lastly a farther orbital line, the 15 is under construction and should be finished around the 2024 Olympics (realistically one or two years after).
@JA-lx5jo
@JA-lx5jo 4 жыл бұрын
infirmux France... Conservative... Macron.... I think not.
@lennartmiau6504
@lennartmiau6504 4 жыл бұрын
6:58: "If you would like to take a romantic trip [...]" - shows map with a phallic object on top of it. That for sure is one way to be romantic, Tim ;)
@TheTimTraveller
@TheTimTraveller 4 жыл бұрын
I wondered who would be the first to spot that :)
@dickmartino9933
@dickmartino9933 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTimTraveller A Frenchman?
@dickjohnson4447
@dickjohnson4447 4 жыл бұрын
Rocket ships are very romantic
@gregessex1851
@gregessex1851 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTimTraveller Classy
@kabochaVA
@kabochaVA 4 жыл бұрын
This is Paris! Capitale de l'amour! Also, full of dic**...
@cesariojpn
@cesariojpn 4 жыл бұрын
4:05 I see Jay Foreman has edited this part given the SFX.
@Teddyfunhouse
@Teddyfunhouse 4 жыл бұрын
All i could think was "unfinished paris?"
@Davesoft
@Davesoft 4 жыл бұрын
I hope they one day appear in each others videos, as an extra, frantically waving in the background, never quite reaching the camera in time to be heard ;)
@demosteam
@demosteam 4 жыл бұрын
I'd pay to see the two make a video together
@DangItshere
@DangItshere 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh it's one of the map mens!
@Skoggangr
@Skoggangr 4 жыл бұрын
@@DangItshere Hommes carte!
@gus3000spam
@gus3000spam 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in Paris for 21 years and I still learned some things in this great video ! "Fun" fact : we used to explore the tracks as kid, until one day we were chased after by local gang members that were using the tunnels to deal drugs. I remember running through an unlit tunnel for what seemed like an eternity, and emerging on the other side, realizing we probably just escaped death. Fun times !
@ElementofKindness
@ElementofKindness 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible how a system can go from overwhelming needed, to obsolete, back to needed over the course of time.
@julosx
@julosx 4 жыл бұрын
Back to needed ? The entire line is dead as my friend's marriage. And it'll never come back.
@julosx
@julosx 4 жыл бұрын
@smelly_meat boss They still do it, using the tram.
@gerdforster883
@gerdforster883 3 жыл бұрын
@Granpda Corey Well, Berlin has retained its circle line and it is extremely busy, so maybe Paris could at some point have to reopen the petite ceinture, too.
@n0rmal953
@n0rmal953 3 жыл бұрын
Granpda Corey ??? What are you trying to say? People are doing it everyday using different lines of tram and Rer
@OneKnifeYeHand
@OneKnifeYeHand 3 жыл бұрын
@@julosx That's not what Tim said in the video...
@CorvusIslandiae
@CorvusIslandiae 4 жыл бұрын
A slight note in the end from you that was incredibly helpful. My wife needs to use a wheelchair most of the time and loves exploring stuff like this with me. Disabled people are so often left out or given the scraps of accessible places and services. Tank you.
@ankaplanka
@ankaplanka 3 жыл бұрын
It's like people still expect everyone to be born the exact same way or not injure themselves so much they can't use their legs/arms/etc anymore. Physically disabled people must probably be more curious about stuff like this, due to being left out so often! Good thing we all have this helpful man right? Be careful and have fun on those adventures okay?
@ethan-fel
@ethan-fel 4 жыл бұрын
hey great video. I'm a train conductor and worked several years in paris rer C gare d'austerlitz/orleans (the trains you show around 6:20), your ending assumption is perfectly right. Part of the Petit ceinture will be used again for a new rer near Paris saint Lazare :) You could easily access it through a station in the ligne c (where the old ligne and the new join) but it was closed off recently (3 years ago). What's funny is the fact that the parts still in activity became tunnel because they build road over it and closed the roofs but the aera not used were left alone.
@svis6888
@svis6888 6 ай бұрын
what do you mean there are no new RER
@jt92
@jt92 4 жыл бұрын
6:08 Nice subtle circle of life piano cover that perfectly fits the rebirth as part of a new railway line.
@ChakatSandwalker
@ChakatSandwalker 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly the thought I had once I realised what I was hearing.
@julosx
@julosx 4 жыл бұрын
Not only it's not a rebirth but much rather a first class burial. Once for all.
@jontownsend8090
@jontownsend8090 4 жыл бұрын
Surely the time has come to reopen this very important but so understated orbital railway. It is great that sncf has retained the route with tracks. If that was in the UK, it would have been ripped up, and sold off piecemeal, then when people wanted it, they couldn't because it is lost forever. It is as it stands, a great ribbon of history and intrigue.
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades Жыл бұрын
All the copper network payed by our taxes, (working passively for ever with few need for repaires) for fix phone is ACTUALLY "sold off piecemeal" since France Telecom have been privatized.......🤢🤑🤮
@vinny142
@vinny142 4 жыл бұрын
"I can be romanit too " Aaww! "I brought you all to paris" Ooh! "To see an abandoned railway" Fwoah!
@XboxgamerZ
@XboxgamerZ 3 жыл бұрын
You can take great romantic photos there and have a nice walk so it's romantic, atleast a bit :P
@pat370
@pat370 4 жыл бұрын
1:30 Thomas theme if you listen closely
@limpfishyes
@limpfishyes 4 жыл бұрын
4:24 As Time Goes By
@rg8951
@rg8951 4 жыл бұрын
i was trying to remember where i heard that from
@SuperSMT
@SuperSMT 4 жыл бұрын
It's similar, but I think it's the kevin macleod song
@puma2334
@puma2334 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSMT I think its the thomas theme
@DanielWJacobsen
@DanielWJacobsen 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed immediately
@ninjabot567
@ninjabot567 4 жыл бұрын
What a lovely story! As a US resident, when I heard the question "Why is this rail line in the middle of a developed city abandoned", I imagined greedy businessmen and politicians cancelling mass transit in favor of automobiles. Instead, it's a wonderful step towards even better passenger service!
@TioDeive
@TioDeive 4 жыл бұрын
It happened the same in Brazil.
@julosx
@julosx 4 жыл бұрын
"Greedy businessmen and politicians cancelling mass transit in favor of automobiles". Guess what ? That's exactly what happened. And still happening these days because the politicians are exactly the same of those in the 1930s with the same upbringing, the same ignorance, the same short-term politics, the same view of things.
@IkeOkerekeNews
@IkeOkerekeNews 4 жыл бұрын
@@julosx Cringe.
@Joesolo13
@Joesolo13 4 жыл бұрын
@@IkeOkerekeNews Perfectly accurate actually.
@IkeOkerekeNews
@IkeOkerekeNews 4 жыл бұрын
@@Joesolo13 Not really.
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 4 жыл бұрын
1:30 Thomas the Tank Engine theme?
@Kj_Gamer2614
@Kj_Gamer2614 4 жыл бұрын
BHuang92 yeah
@OndrooGaming
@OndrooGaming 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite part of the video tbh
@hilcovanbreeschoten720
@hilcovanbreeschoten720 4 жыл бұрын
How did I miss that. Thanks for pointing it out :D
@marilynriccio4095
@marilynriccio4095 4 жыл бұрын
So interesting! I love how you combine history, geography and humor into all your post! Keep up the great work!
@scotth5207
@scotth5207 4 жыл бұрын
I laughed hard at the "bearded man in a checkered shirt" comment, haha. Great video!
@theodorthegreathe
@theodorthegreathe Жыл бұрын
And I've doubled at 2:07 hearing the theme from the fort Boyard (piano) :)
@adrienrenaux6211
@adrienrenaux6211 Жыл бұрын
Gosh this is so great that they kept the line. In Belgium, all of the old rail lines have either been sold or turned into Ravels, which is the name for Cycling/walking paths. They are actually pretty brilliant, but now it feels like we can't put a railway back there anymore
@allocater2
@allocater2 4 жыл бұрын
All in favor of making it a particle accelerator say "aye".
@imperialspy3457
@imperialspy3457 3 жыл бұрын
aye
@Gautier-cw9bu
@Gautier-cw9bu 3 жыл бұрын
Aye However it might not be round enough
@MsMesem
@MsMesem 3 жыл бұрын
Oui
@challalla
@challalla Жыл бұрын
I lived for 8 years right by the Petite Ceinture and remember when the section opened to the public, with the entrance that you see in the video literally right around the corner from my building. And I've only just now realized where the PC1, PC2, and PC3 bus names come from.
@another_unique_username
@another_unique_username 4 жыл бұрын
Watching you come from not even 10K subs to where you are now has been such a grand journey. Thank you for your videos and for sharing
@CoimbraGuy
@CoimbraGuy 4 жыл бұрын
And he deserves every person who adds to his followers. Seriously, one of the best channels to me when I just want to unwind and avoid Brexit and Trump.
@benholroyd5221
@benholroyd5221 4 жыл бұрын
Journey? It took about 2 days to go from 5k to 50k. More of a gentle stroll.
@mikosoft
@mikosoft 4 жыл бұрын
Playing Fort Boyard theme when talking about fortification. Of course you are. EDIT: And Circle of Life when talking about bringing a circular railway back to life ... oh yes.
@ChaseWulff
@ChaseWulff 3 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see that Paris (or whomever owns the tracks) has been forward thinking enough all these years not to just sell it off. The US is full of stories like this but they end quite differently. Cities with extensive mass transit systems sold to the highest bidder (car companies) who proceed to remove tracks and right of ways to make cars the only means a getting around.
@PascalGienger
@PascalGienger Жыл бұрын
And voters wanted exactly that. This is the main pain point also in Germany when it comes to extend the rail network - people want AUTOBAHN and ROADS. So every secretary (minister) of traffic and infrastructure was more or less the "secretary for the German car industry".
@walideg5304
@walideg5304 Жыл бұрын
It’s owned by the SNCF, not the city.
@FougarouBe
@FougarouBe 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. At one point they thought about re-using it for a tramway around Paris. But because some politicians of the 15e district had their garden next to the tracks this idea was definitively abandonned and they covered the tracks with those planks you can see in your video (but everything is removable just in case of emergency like some military needs) and went for those "green corridors" instead. In the meantime they built tramway lines on the boulevards instead or there, which costed a lot more and also took almost a half of those boulevards from the cars. Cheers.
@Joesolo13
@Joesolo13 4 жыл бұрын
That's rather frustrating.
@antoinetif
@antoinetif Ай бұрын
@@Joesolo13 I think it was actually a good decision. Paris really lacks green spaces compared to London for instance. With the effect of climate change being more severe, such green spaces are really valuable. When it comes to the tram, building it on the boulevards has been a big opportunity to change these car-dominated, polluted, unfriendly spaces into shared spaces with tram, cars, bicycle lanes, trees, etc... This has made the edge of Paris much nicer for those living here or commuting. The tramway stations are also located closer to the places people go to, which make using public transport more attractive. This wasn't an easy choice but turned out well.
@shampouineurdu92
@shampouineurdu92 4 жыл бұрын
As a French guy, I am blown away by your excellent pronunciation! Keep it up
@stellarch4986
@stellarch4986 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very well researched video about the Petite Ceinture. 40 years ago when I was a student in Pairs, I had noticed some parts of it but wondered what it was and why there seemed to be no trains using these tracks. And while sleeping, a number of years later, I dreamed of that line and this dream gave me some basic info about it ( no joking ) and I understood that it had been a circular railway around Paris. I even saw it several times being fully restored and completely operational in other dreams. But those dreams did not bring me the wealth of information that you provided in that video. Extremely interesting. Keep up the good work !
@julosx
@julosx 4 жыл бұрын
To give you a hint of what the PC used to be when the trains could actually ride it, this is my 1999 video for you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH_Fh6Sjpb9lrKc
@jamietumble609
@jamietumble609 Жыл бұрын
There used to be a train in the 80s, the Napoli Express from Boulogne sur Mer to Naples which connected from train and ship from London via the Folkestone Harbour branch now closed. Once the train arrived at Paris Nord an SNCF series 639xx loco took the stock via the petit ceinture to Paris Lyon where electric traction took over the journey towards the alps.
@O-P-96
@O-P-96 4 жыл бұрын
For the record, the Sister line of La Petite Ceinture, known as La Grande Ceinture (which you mentioned in the video, and who is farther away from Paris than Petite Ceinture but still form a circle around it), is slowly being reopened in some areas to be used for a "tram-train" (basically a tram that can also use train tracks). For example, one of the line reopened will be Saint-Germain-en-Laye to Saint-Cyr, and later a link will be made to another city in the opposite direction from Saint-Germain-en-Laye. So it's not impossible that one day, la Petite Ceinture will be opened once again (at least in some areas), if the need arises. However, it should also be noted that the railway as it is now offers a green area inside the city, with some people reporting that there are apparently fauna and flora that is not typically seen in the city growing on the old railway. So it's also possible that the city would prefer to keep the railway as it is to preserve these green spaces.
@williamgeorgefraser
@williamgeorgefraser 4 жыл бұрын
Railway lines in the Paris area would seem naked without graffiti on every available stretch of wall. ;-D Great video. Congratulations on your French accent. I live in France and it is rare to find fellow Brits who get the nuances of pronunciation correct.
@grumpyoldman47
@grumpyoldman47 3 жыл бұрын
I travelled on the VMI section of the Petite Ceinture just after it opened back in the autumn of 1988, but I also travelled on the eastern section of it in spring, 1973. At that time, there was a portion of a train from the south of France which was detached at the Gare de Lyon, and then taken round the eastern section of the Petite Ceinture to the Gare du Nord; I'd travelled overnight from Turin, changed to the through coaches at the Gare de Lyon, and I THINK we stayed on them through to Boulogne (I can't remember changing again once I got to Nord)
@Rockingham76
@Rockingham76 4 жыл бұрын
Tim, I absolutely love your videos! They never fail to cheer me up when I'm feeling down. Thanks!
@russcorbett3923
@russcorbett3923 4 жыл бұрын
Great video !!!! Thank You for all that you do and thank you for going everywhere that you go . You show so much of places that I may never get to go to , but I feel like I've been there through your videos .Thank You !!!
@gradyzyner7423
@gradyzyner7423 4 жыл бұрын
You have one of the few KZbin channels that I wish posted MORE often. Thanks for your fun and informative work.
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 4 жыл бұрын
Why is this old track not part of Belgium?
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 4 жыл бұрын
ReddoFreddo - Er, because it’s in Paris, which is in France perhaps?
@ThisIsTenou
@ThisIsTenou 4 жыл бұрын
@@AtheistOrphan r/whoosh
@joehoe222
@joehoe222 4 жыл бұрын
@@AtheistOrphan you lost.
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 4 жыл бұрын
@@AtheistOrphan This track isn't in Belgium either, so what's your point?
@Buildbeautiful
@Buildbeautiful 4 жыл бұрын
What are you smoking
@Yakaraska
@Yakaraska 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in Paris and I love the story of this train and thank you Tim to talk about this subject. However, I think the video miss to explain that now a tram run close to the old track without taking it (t3a and t3b). The question of using the old tracks was ask back then but they choose a different itinerary because as first, as seen in this video, " la petite ceinture" is a couple of meter up and it can be hard to make it a accessible to wheelchair and secondly, mostly because it run close to building that were build and sold after the complete shutdown. As a train or a tram make a lot of noise, politics were scare of the backlash. For this reason I think it's unlikely that the old tracks will be use again. And, small details, on the map, Tim show us the current metro 1 line. Back then it was smaller running only inside Paris (between porte Maillot and porte de Vincennes).
@julosx
@julosx 4 жыл бұрын
The wheelchair argument is a cover up for the fact that 1990s politicians couldn't claim the PC as their own, that's why they hated it and made sure it would be kinda destroyed and "replaced" by the two tramway lines despite their unbelievable cost and technical uselessness.
@OneKnifeYeHand
@OneKnifeYeHand 3 жыл бұрын
There are tons of similar lines around the world that have been made wheelchair accessible. If everyone else can do it, then so can Paris.
@ecek4671
@ecek4671 4 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I found Tim by accident but it fits my thing perfectly - my favourite stuff to do while travelling is to search for places no one knows or sees on a day to day basis. Outstanding stuff mate! Can't wait for more!
@McRocket
@McRocket 4 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful story - I knew nothing of this. And - as usual - wonderfully told. Thank you.
@angelika_munkastrap4634
@angelika_munkastrap4634 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh I just discovered you today, and I'm two videos in and LOVING IT!! You are AWESOME. I mean literal TV star right here, you have the best voice and personality for this sort of thing
@zanelindsay1267
@zanelindsay1267 Жыл бұрын
Such an interesting story of often overlooked railway history, and jazzed up with humourous narration, great work!
@tinrobot4479
@tinrobot4479 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing is better than a new Tim video on KZbin (perspective much?). Always informative and interesting. Utterly fab. Thanks.
@TheFirstGroover
@TheFirstGroover 3 жыл бұрын
This Paris videos are priceless. I miss Paris so much. Deply in love with her chaotic transport system.
@grandebigy
@grandebigy 3 жыл бұрын
Same . I can't wait to go back. I thought i knew every part of Paris. This is in my list a son as everything opens up again .
@Haronniin
@Haronniin 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I found your channel just the other day. I often wonder about the history of abandoned roads, rail roads, buildings and the like.
@briocheoleary5043
@briocheoleary5043 4 жыл бұрын
V impressed that you managed to find such an esoteric subject. Love it
@ayansharma8281
@ayansharma8281 4 жыл бұрын
I am just 19 seconds into the video but I know for sure this video gonna b great as the previous ones. Love your work dude
@CoimbraGuy
@CoimbraGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I just love your videos! When I get a notification that you've added something, I really do almost get like a kid at Christmas... yeah, that's embarrassing. Thanks as always.
@Parlophonic
@Parlophonic 4 жыл бұрын
In 1971 I went to Bulgaria by train from London; in fact it was on the Orient Express - by then a run-down train with one Wagon Lit, the rest of the train being made up of 2nd class French carriages. That said, disembarking the cross-channel ferry, I boarded a French train at Calais into a couchette designated for Milan. Arriving at Gare Du Nord, my couchette, plus other carriages, continued on to Gare De Lyon where they were connected to the Orient Express. Our trip between the two termini was undertaken on the tracks of La Petite Ceinture. This is now no longer possible - but I remember it well as we passed ove viaducts which offered a most marvellous view.
@francispagan9676
@francispagan9676 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that mention of the use of the Petite Ceinture. I'm surprised that Tim didn't mention it himself. It used to carry the Calais-Istanbul through wagon-lit in the 1920s. I've been on it more than once on Calais-Milan couchettes, and also once on a charter train from Paris to Port Bou on the Spanish border. This started at Gare du Nord in order to make the change from the Calais trains without lugging our stuff across town. The route was by Petite Ceinture to a junction with the Est line and then out along that.to join the Grande Ceinture. We then followed the GC past Valenton sidings,over the Seine to join the main line towards Toulouse and points south. This was I think in 1973.
@christophernoble6810
@christophernoble6810 4 жыл бұрын
I have traveled overpart of this line by steam between Gare du Nord and Gare de Lyon in May 1964. This was a normal timetabled train quite late at night.
@simonbolzdotcom
@simonbolzdotcom 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you tell stories. Very pleasing!
@richardsedding8444
@richardsedding8444 2 жыл бұрын
Great vídeo, thanks for posting ! Looking forward to the next visit to Paris.
@geoffreycoan
@geoffreycoan 4 жыл бұрын
Great research Tim, really brought the story of this railway to life, I found it very interesting
@xbob1966
@xbob1966 4 жыл бұрын
great vidéo ! great journalism work ! ( I live in Paris and I explore this place a lot since the 90s)
@cowboyfrankspersonalvideos8869
@cowboyfrankspersonalvideos8869 4 жыл бұрын
Good job mentioning "in the future". Too many channels and websites forget they may be around for a while and fail to take that into consideration.
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum 3 жыл бұрын
You know that the KZbin channel is good when you avidly watch a video about a railway that’s (mostly) no longer there, in another country that I can’t realistically visit at the moment and even if I could, I’m not sure my wife shares my enthusiasm for abandoned mass transit systems!
@kulttuurihai1791
@kulttuurihai1791 4 жыл бұрын
Eventhough I havent visited in Paris this documentary aspect of yours bring a tears in my eye😢. Fantastic storyteling🎉
@bucherwurm5344
@bucherwurm5344 3 жыл бұрын
This video finally convinced me to subscribe to this channel. I really like your subtle humor. Keep it up!
@petedemaio168
@petedemaio168 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great video. I have just subscribed, coming from your Geoff Marshall hook up. This is the first video I've seen on this. Really well made and informative. I remember travelling on this line in the late 70's as they shunted international sleeper stock from Paris Nord to Gare de Lyon, for the trains that ran Calais (or Boulogne? )to Roma. I found that part really exciting at the time.
@richarddavis4954
@richarddavis4954 4 жыл бұрын
Love it, clicked it as soon as possible, and as usual love the offbeat comedy and of course the great information
@jacquilucquin8206
@jacquilucquin8206 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video! I live across the road from one rehabilitated section of the Petite Ceinture and so I spend a lot of time there and I know a bit about it... but this video provided an excellent overview, i certainly learned a lot, Thank you!
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs 4 жыл бұрын
Ooh, that's one of my favourite rail tracks. It's so evocative with it's tracks down in a little cozy ditch.
@k.jamescarters9557
@k.jamescarters9557 4 жыл бұрын
Not far off that KZbin trophy now. Keep up the good work!
@BON3SMcCOY
@BON3SMcCOY 4 жыл бұрын
Nice shout out with the Thomas and friends music. Hope your channel gets big enough to support topics outside europe good luck mate
@edward101277
@edward101277 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in Paris for almost a year and had no idea this existed lmao
@Omegatonboom
@Omegatonboom 4 жыл бұрын
A year flies by. If you were there for 10 years and never heard of it, then we can talk lol
@ACogloc
@ACogloc 4 жыл бұрын
Right, my school through 12 years of growing up was just next to Corentin Cariou and I never knew about this. You can tell I'm not the adventurous type...
@nickaston2468
@nickaston2468 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in Paris for 5 years and had no idea this existed!
@JulieWallis1963
@JulieWallis1963 4 жыл бұрын
Edward Chan a few months. You lived somewhere for a _few_ months! I doubt you had much idea of a lot of Paris’ comings and goings. Living there for some months is barely more than a holiday 😶
@edward101277
@edward101277 4 жыл бұрын
@@JulieWallis1963 I wish I could call it a holiday, but it wasn't :(
@TravelSignal
@TravelSignal 4 жыл бұрын
At least the PC bus lines are slowly being restored to tracks - in the form of tram lines.
@paulspl2581
@paulspl2581 2 жыл бұрын
I have very good memories of the petite ceinture. Living as a middle/lower class guy the poorer neighborhoods of Paris, my friends and I used to come have barbecues and parties on the "petite ceinture" it was in the 20th district and you even had acces to some buildings' roofs from there. There are some parts that are covered from wind and rain, and some space on the side with lots of trees. It's kind of dangerous in some places because there are holes in the ground of some bridges and you could easily fall 15 meters down. I almost felt once, I was drunk and high and it fucking scared me. Also when the police came everyone would flee and we could not really escape since it was a single path railway, so you'd run off to the sides and try to go down to the streets on the side
@sydmccreath4554
@sydmccreath4554 11 ай бұрын
An entrance to the catacombs is in one of the tunnels, oui?
@paulspl2581
@paulspl2581 11 ай бұрын
@@sydmccreath4554 yes, I think so. Maybe it's been blocked off since then I would think
@Marie-fi7kg
@Marie-fi7kg 2 жыл бұрын
Je découvre vos vidéos...BRAVO! C'est à la fois instructif, drôle, et court! Merci pour ce contenu de qualité
@psirvent8
@psirvent8 Жыл бұрын
Je ne suis donc pas le seul français à regarder cette vidéo...
@pingu255
@pingu255 4 жыл бұрын
Day gets better when there be new video
@likklej8
@likklej8 4 жыл бұрын
I stayed in Montparnasse in January a couple of years ago. The line was near my hotel. Homeless Parisians were in one of the tunnels. Seems like bits of the line have now been gentrified! Great vid thanks
@Maxime_K-G
@Maxime_K-G 4 жыл бұрын
Wow Tim, great video! You impressed me again!
@andybusard6694
@andybusard6694 Жыл бұрын
I discovered the PC once while walking overr a section on an overpass. Marvelous video. Thanks!
@SoundOfVinyl
@SoundOfVinyl 4 жыл бұрын
It's good that you are back, now begin to upload more content, more.... we need more, of this good stuff
@domundtgregor6683
@domundtgregor6683 4 жыл бұрын
hey, Tim ... A Parisian here. you forgot to mention that the bus lines PC are meanwhile replaced by 2 modern tram lines that covers 3/4 of the circumference of Paris and they are much better interlinked with the existing metro and bus network Furthermore, beside the parts already transfromed to public promenade areas, in many areas, the old PC tracks are removed or overbuilt with modern housing etc
@patrickverlinden71
@patrickverlinden71 4 жыл бұрын
Great video of La petite Ceinture, Tim!!! One of the railroadtunnels is an entrance to the Paris catacombs.
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 4 жыл бұрын
"It's also possible You'll get flattened by a train" 🤣 ...We have a similar thing in Detroit. Look up Dequindre Cut.
@josephdadey
@josephdadey 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! 80,000 subscribers now? You're huge!! Congrats Great video by the way.
@SimonS44
@SimonS44 4 жыл бұрын
This is really one of the best channels there are :)
@scottfw7169
@scottfw7169 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, do appreciate the note about accessibility on the two open sections.
@maphunter6316
@maphunter6316 4 жыл бұрын
Going to brew a fresh coffee before lifting the lid on this one. Thank you as always
@pandahugs2271
@pandahugs2271 4 жыл бұрын
i have been here and i was curious asto what this was. thank you for making a video about it
@oulipolesceptique9449
@oulipolesceptique9449 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching me something about Paris I didn't already know! Very interesting!
@seanworkman431
@seanworkman431 3 жыл бұрын
Although I had to turn down the volume, all in all a good presentation with a pleasant balance of history and humour.
@dws49
@dws49 4 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD IS THAT THE FORT BOYARD THEME
@kabochaVA
@kabochaVA 4 жыл бұрын
At 2:08? Yes it is! xD
@gl4989
@gl4989 4 жыл бұрын
The nostalgia lol
@gregessex1851
@gregessex1851 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent subject and video Tim.
@photons23
@photons23 4 жыл бұрын
I love to hang out there when I'm visiting my friends in Paris, it's an amazing place...
@pacificelectric1955
@pacificelectric1955 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, I work near the Recyclerie… long ago I walked through the Buttes Chaumont tunnel, quite an experience!
@legomasters18
@legomasters18 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, though I was a little distracted at 6:09 by the piano rendition of 'The Circle of Life?
@toast1797
@toast1797 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up looking over the petite ceinture not knowing a thing about its history but now that I've left France it really intrigues me
@Runescope
@Runescope 4 жыл бұрын
Vancouver, BC (near where I live) has a ‘lost railway’. It was originally built to lighten transit pressure, but it was found that it took longer than the bus so nobody used it and thus it was retired, but the tracks are still maintained in case they might once again be of use.
@draisine1609
@draisine1609 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. The line has a certain mystery to me and one day I Hope to explore it. Thanks
@LukeVilent
@LukeVilent 4 жыл бұрын
2:08 piano version of Fort Boyard theme! Oh, those sweet memories...
@Lebenspiel
@Lebenspiel 4 жыл бұрын
I was literally like: "Where the heck I heard that?!"
@MarceldeJong
@MarceldeJong 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting choice of background music, the Fort Boyard theme song, when talking about the military interest in the railway.
@DASOSinAZ
@DASOSinAZ 4 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Thank you!
@Mariosch26
@Mariosch26 4 жыл бұрын
I'm always fascinated how things sometimes seem to develop very similar at the same time in completely different cities in different countries. Berlin, Germany faced a similar issue as Paris - it had a number of terminal stations owned by different companies who ran completely different and unconnected networks. In 1851 a connection railway was opened to allow the transfer of passanger, luggage and freight between the existing stations, which quickly outrun it's capacity so in 1866 construction finally started on a new railway to connect all terminal stations and form a ring around Berlin. 1877 the final section of the circle line was completed, and is still in service today (there had been some service interruptions in the past due to the Berlin Wall cutting right through the ring, though ;) ) Even the dimensions are very similar - the Berlin circle line is 37.5km long.
@catrachocolo
@catrachocolo 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, a few more cities have similar arrangements, although mostly/only for passenger transfer: In Europe there is also London, where the connecting line was build as an underground railway, 27 km long (today's Circle Line); and Moscow, with Line 5 of the Metro, roughly 20 km long, albeit built much later (in the 1950s) than in the other cities. Line 14 in Moscow could also count. Two more examples can be found in Japan: In Osaka, JR West operates the Loop Line, a heavy rail line, 21,7 km long; and Tokyo has JR East's Yamanote line, a 34,5 km long heavy rail line, arguably the most heavily used in the world. Of course there are many more cities where suburban or metro lines connect seperate railway terminals, but those six should be the only ones where it is (or in the case of Paris, was) done with a loop line. Although Glasgow, Liverpool and Vienna could be thrown in there as well, I guess. Anybody thinking of/knows other examples?
@julosx
@julosx 4 жыл бұрын
@@catrachocolo I've been told Atlanta is planning to make its own circle line.
@joolslaloosh
@joolslaloosh 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very good Channel! Great videography and very funny and informative as well. Subscribed.
@TheTimTraveller
@TheTimTraveller 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad, welcome on board!
@g4m4de
@g4m4de 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! So good. Thank you
@Gnuuub
@Gnuuub 4 жыл бұрын
How does he not have more subs??? Trains, travels, and some humor. What more could anyone ask for?
@zork999
@zork999 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I look forward to each new Tim Traveller video and am always bummed at the end because it means I have to wait a few weeks for the next one. On the other hand, he had less than 1000 subscribers when I joined about four months ago and is now over 80K. Not too shabby a trajectory.
@robinforrest7680
@robinforrest7680 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I live in France and worked for SNCF in Paris for a few years and I'd always wondered what the story behind this line was.
@bekluwe
@bekluwe 4 жыл бұрын
There’s something like this in Berlin which connected all stations in Berlin. It’s called the “Berliner Stadtbahn” and it’s pretty famous in Germany.
@johntrussell7228
@johntrussell7228 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine how amazing this would be if Paris turned this into a cycling / walking loop.
@imperialspy3457
@imperialspy3457 3 жыл бұрын
Would be a cool bike ride
@grandebigy
@grandebigy 3 жыл бұрын
It could be the new route for tour de France ,
@donkeydik2602
@donkeydik2602 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Like a cycling highway with loads of green spaces around
@dudmic
@dudmic 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, always wanted to know a little bit of history about this line :)
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades Жыл бұрын
When we were youger, it wasn't opened yet to the public and we have done some acoustic free parties in the tunnels, playing music with thrash parts and doig some barbecue, sleeping there. I can say that we had fun !! There is also all a thing to discover is some access to the wild catacombes network, a city under the Paris city !!
@sydmccreath4554
@sydmccreath4554 11 ай бұрын
An entrance to the catacombs is inside one of the tunnels on this old railway line, oui?
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