Lady and the Tramp Aspect Ratios Compared

[@aubreeofarc]

The Pan and Scan is from the 1987 Walt Disney Classics release. The colors were different, but most of these films at the time were like scanned from the 35mm or 16mm film masters, so colors may have changed due to age. However, it is possible it could have changed the colors digitally for some reason, but for a film from 1955, the colors have most likely aged and restored by hand.

[@billnumber3324]

I wish this video existed in the 90s, when I was trying to explain to people the difference between widescreen and pan and scan and just how much information is lost with the latter.

[@kingandrewcecil348]

I remember watching Lady and the Tramp for the first time on Disney Channel when I was very young around the early-2000s and and it was the Academy ratio version as seen on the 1998 Masterpiece Collection VHS/Laserdisc with the Buena Vista opening logo intact, completely unaware that the CinemaScope widescreen version of the film does exist since I never owned it on video back then. After renting the 2006 Platinum Edition DVD of the film from video stores one time (now I don't have that DVD), in addition to the upgraded restoration quality I shockingly then saw two alternate versions of the film which I never saw before when I play it on my TV: the original CinemaScope widescreen version which shows way more picture at the sides, and an alternate 4:3 pan-and-scan version which looks even more cramped and zoomed-in compared to the one I previously saw on Disney Channel.

[@ezequielgomez7083]

I only love watching in widescreen on Lady and the Tramp and Sleeping Beauty

[@Father_of_Death]

CinemaScope is the most abstract and reveals more of the picture. Pan and Scan looks claustrophobic and Academy Ratio is missing some detail.

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

Couldn't have worded it better

[@Father_of_Death]

@@jonathansabinvarietyfilms there is an extremely difficult DVD release to find of the movie from the late 90s. It presents the movie in 2.35:1 as opposed to the original CinemaScope format. But, it was also issued on VHS as well. It does have information missing on the sides.

[@frikkenI23]

@@Father_of_Deathfascinating! Do you have any more destila on this

[@MamonFighter2ndChannel]

In the academy ratio print, in the dialog cut "He's never called me that before," you note Lady's color scheme is repainted as different as the background. Her ears are darker, her pupils are fully black and her fur seemed slight contrasted.

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

Interesting, thanks for pointing that out! Sadly KZbin won’t allow the full movie comparison upload despite it being unavailable commercially anywhere and a piece of lost history.

[@MamonFighter2ndChannel]

@@jonathansabinvarietyfilms I know that to admit. Some people used short clips of it to make YTPs like that and surprisingly enough, it hasn't been taken down.

[@mikef.795]

​@@jonathansabinvarietyfilms Can you upload it to the internet archive? (not the wayback machine, but their media collections) Even if it only stays up for a day, it might be long enough for one of us to grab the file and preserve it on the deep web. Also: Depending on the size, Mega might be another option.

[@ClassicCaillouX645GroundedGA]

3:29 the houses are closer in the Academy Version.

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

Wow can't even see the road in academy, thanks for pointing that out

[@mikekaye3874]

This means and looks. Espcecially in the Mirror reflection. This means the Academy version was a completely different animated set up, and a simple Pan and Scan at all. The mirror reflection as an example is a totally different image than the others. Even animating the 3 shot of the dogs was totally redone. Very insteresting, wow. - Toronto, Canada.

[@NYfan2004]

The academy ratio version was actually released on vhs as well in 1998

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

All the 1998 VHS editions I see have the usual disclaimer:this film has been modified from its original version, formatted to fit your tv', indicating pan and scan. Do you have a link?

[@NYfan2004]

@@jonathansabinvarietyfilms Sure. I saw on a website it was the academy version. Anyway here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2iWYap6pdeWmsk

[@arenjtumastens]

@@jonathansabinvarietyfilms Actually, the 1998 VHS doesn't use it. Neither does my copy of it.

[@NYfan2004]

@@jonathansabinvarietyfilms I know this is two years late, but here's a link to a video I saw of the "Peace on Earth" scene. You can clearly tell by the houses on the sides that it's the academy version kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmmwgY2aedGWZtk Also, the 2006 DVD, which I have in my collection of DVDs, has two versions of the movie. Along with the cinemascope version (labeled as "widescreen" in the menu), there's a version labeled "fullscreen" and believe it or not it's the pan and scan version. I have a feeling they redid the pan and scan though, since it's a little more zoomed out than the 1987 VHS, there's letterboxing at the beginning of the peace on earth scene (it's VERY minor), and in the scene with the two houses where the academy ratio pans and zooms, the pan and scan on the 2006 DVD shows both houses, but the house on the right is very close to the edge, and the house on the left is cut off, and like the pan and scan on the 1987 VHS, it also waits for the zoom And finally, the movie actually aired on ABC earlier this year, and they formatted the film for 16:9. I'm not sure if they just cropped it or actually did some pan and scanning. Here's a link to that kzbin.info/www/bejne/anXVgY2ud9d9iJo

[@mikef.795]

is the digitized academy LD uploaded anywhere for posterity? (any private trackers I should start begging for an invite to?)

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

I tried but YT took it right down 😕

[@stevespain50]

Enjoyed it. I don't suppose you could post the scene in which Lady looks into the baby's cradle? I'm trying to authenticate a piece of original art from this film.

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

I do have the whole film in this format, but it flagged YT's copyright protection, but sure I'll post that later.

[@kristjanbirnirivansson528]

I think this frame shows the differences best.

[@3djazzsonic]

Very interesting!

[@nathaniel7170]

Good work! This video is super cool!

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

Glad you enjoyed . . . I had the whole movie up for comparison but it triggered KZbin's copyright protection.

[@nathaniel7170]

@@jonathansabinvarietyfilms That would have been cool! It did have a commentary vibe. I thought were just getting really relaxed in the short video. Thanks man! Love your feed! I'd love a little piece on your favorite 3d Blu-ray releases. I'm building out the collection but it's getting tougher to pick titles

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

Some that stand out visually in my mind are Journey to the Center of the Earth (as well as most of its' sequel), the Jurassic Park conversion, Mr. Peabody and Sherman, The Walk, The Wizard of Oz conversion, Amazing Ocean . . . And there's a new review I will be posting next, Wings of the Hawk and an accompanying Woody Woodpecker cartoon.

[@nathaniel7170]

@@jonathansabinvarietyfilms That Jurrassic Park conversion is something special. I'll check out Journey to the Center of the Earth. Haven't seen it in a long time. Thanks Man!

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

@@nathaniel7170 Another to add to the list is Sponge Out of Water which I just saw. I was pleasantly surprised that it's one of the very best 3D films I've ever seen. Every shot is a work of stereo art, I couldn't look away.

[@ProJatior]

Why would you use the CinemaScope version for home video? That baffles me.

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

They used both cinemascope and pan and scan. What baffles me is why they bothered to even make pan and scan instead of just using the academy ratio.

[@ProJatior]

That’s what I’m trying to say.

[@ZakWolf]

@@jonathansabinvarietyfilms, for the 1987 VHS release, it was probably because for the theatrical reissue the year before, Disney only distributed the Cinemascope print to theaters, because widescreen cinemas were a lot more commonplace by that time. Since it was the most recent print and in the best shape, they used that for the video release, applying pan-and-scan and blacking out the Buena Vista logo at the start (many of the older Walt Disney Classics Collection video releases would hide the old RKO and Buena Vista logos).

[@fanofretrotechnology3802]

Pan and scan is just pan and shit

[@jonathansabinvarietyfilms]

Lol it is a historical oddity that's for sure

[@billnumber3324]

This has my vote for best comment

[@TheStOne1]

Tv screens were very small and square for widescreen formats, they would have laked in resolution and details. Sometimes pan and scan was the best solution to see the main action with best quality and resolution available at the time. In this case they should have used the academy ratio version.

[@fanofretrotechnology3802]

Neva mind