Lae'zel's Romance - Cold Hearted Bat - Patch 2 [ Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access ]

[@nananderson7259]

"I smell your sweat, I mean to taste it!" *Yes, guards this dialogue right here.*

[@theeatherlash69]

I once saw heresy that began like this.

[@cadetate3023]

@Leon Tucker Instablaster :)

[@dudebro765]

Do I hear a Tav Sweat Chart coming?

[@micksilva7374]

She is just a tsundere without the good sides

[@Mmogurl]

I think that means she's just a b#$%^ LOL

[@damobeck1]

@@Mmogurl early access my friends, gotta break down the barrier before they really let you in.

[@Sedines]

@@Mmogurl I can tolerate her being a bitch because she's that way to everyone, not just to me like Shadowheart is.

[@Kyle-hv8ed]

@@Sedines At least Lae'zel is straightforward in what she wants. I don't mind if mommy dom takes what is hers lmao. Shadowheart however, shuts me out every single time and questions my intelligence or motives. And of course, I fail her ridiculous dice rolls when asking her questions. She's at medium for me and still treats me like an enemy. Some may think that makes her interesting and mysterious, but honestly that just puts me off. If you're not going to give me even an inch then I don't feel like it's even worth pursuing any further

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

​@@Kyle-hv8ed If it makes you feel better My brother loathes Shadowheart and spent a full hour ranting to me about her. He even said he prefers Lae'zel because she is a bitch to everyone and doesn't jerk him around.

[@Mathenaut]

It's like Klingon sex. If you aren't broken in the morning, you aren't doing it right. (edit) Incidentally, there is alot of subtext with Lae'zel. Her attitude doesn't change, but there is a growing discrepancy between what she says and how she actually acts. I suspect that her romance development will involve her slowly admitting this. She cares, but she'll never admit it. She'll love you, but she'll never say the words.

[@Mmogurl]

I mean, I'd be OK with that. Like I said in the video, little things like "Hey you don't suck THAT BAD" would be acceptable! hehe

[@Xelpherpolis]

Agreed. Lae'zel's a zealot who's now on the run from her own people and refuses to believe Vlaakith would be complicit in ordering her death. She's a true believer raised in a house of cards. That's too much setup for the writers to NOT do something interesting with. I don't expect her to be a goody-too-shoes or anything, but in a way that's similar to other character like Morrigan in Dragon Age or Viconia in Baldur's Gate 2, I think there'll be more and more dimension to her as the game progresses. Hopefully I'm not setting myself up for disappointment XD

[@lenorevanalstine1219]

the mating ritual consists of a woman roaring, throwing things at the male, and occasionally clawing at him while the male reads love poetry and ducks a lot

[@Nietzschesghost]

Heh, I read the tiredness and aching as more that the sex was athletic and strenuous which fits her character rather than unpleasantly rough..Lae'zel does not seem like she would tolerate a 2 pump chump.

[@Mmogurl]

LOL - I don't know, my poor PC looked so miserable!

[@dashua1]

Yea Dawg when I heard that dialog. I knew it must've been one hell of a work out. Because I feel the same way the day after a hard workout session. I don't want get up, I don't want move, I don't want to blink, hell I don't even want to breathe... So I didn't even think of it as her beating, or being overly rough with me.

[@PainfulJoy]

I mean, she's a Githyanki. They have something of a superiority complex basically bred into them as a culture, and they also don't tend to value love, compassion or empathy. In their culture, sex is for pleasure or for breeding. Love is a weakness. Remember that Githyanki are generally a Lawful *Evil* society, as opposed to the Githzerai, who are usually Lawful Neutral, and tend to have a more pleasant disposition than Lae'zel does. Getting Lae'zel to give in to softer emotions will probably take longer than just the first chapter of the game.

[@thebigenchilada678]

I’d fuckin hope it takes longer, but considering how half the crew goes from hating to banging you within the first chapter I fear for any chance at meaningful character development in this game.

[@96Darkfire]

Ok i think they did a great job with Lae'zel representing Githyanki culture. Lae'zel herself is not a "special" Githyanki. Their society is really decadent and mercyless. Sex is an enjoyment not much more. Love some strange concept without purpose and when you think about for Gith it makes sense. They lay eggs and caretakers raise young Githyanki. No father or mother involved. Lae'zel represents a young Githyanki with dreams of becoming a Kithrak. Just look how jealous she is when you encounter the Gith Patrol. This is probably the dream of every Githyanki because of their warrior society. You are not allowed to live in the Astal Plane until you killed a Mind Flayer and living in the Astral Plane stops ageing, making you in some sense immortal. I hope that we have to oppurtunity to change her mindset atleast a tiny bit.

[@Kyle-hv8ed]

The Mindflayers and Githyanki are the main story races as far as we know right now. I'm sure over the course of the game, you will be able to sway her significantly. She is the most interesting character to me right now.

[@ohauss]

@@Kyle-hv8ed I could see a situation where she for example finds out that her views as to her position in the eyes of her Queen may have been naive that could shake her outlook quite considerably.

[@bessieburnet9816]

@@Kyle-hv8ed Yeah, she is where the story is at

[@rhodan74]

I love how clear cut she is. Let's hope she doesn't get written into a "I'm only tough because of .... " corner. You can give her depth and some kind of affection towards the PC without it imo. Considering her race/culture/upbringing she is rather sweet imo. Especially the part where she tries to learn your "language". I'm sure this will develop further if you keep her as a companion.

[@focal1475]

I doubt that would happen they nailed the githyanki perfectly they are assholes of the supreme order

[@Kyle-hv8ed]

This happens before the party, but when you go to the githyanki patrol, the PC worries about the red dragon and Lae'zel responds saying she wouldn' let it hurt you... Gives me hope

[@rodangrahf]

doubt it, githyanki have no sob story, they dont work that way. I can see you making her change some aspects of her persona but at her core she must be exactly as she is portrayed at the moment

[@t-love8351]

@@rodangrahf of course they have a sob story -- their enslavement by the illithid.

[@acrow5]

@@t-love8351 But that was hundreds if not thousands of years ago. She wasn't a slave, some long distant relative, who could still be alive considering how the Astral Plane works, was.

[@StairFacts]

Lae'zel is such a hard character to romance, literally every dialogue in the game pops up a "Lae'zel disapproves" message lmao

[@roberttauzer7042]

You must act like an asshole. Then she's satisfied.

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

She's an evil npc. You must be a d*** to seduce her.

[@loafofbread9400]

Everything i do laezel approves

[@thoralexandermichelsen6592]

Well you could still like it, even if you feel miserable the next morning. No pain no pleasure kind of thing.

[@Mmogurl]

I don't know man, she sounds prettttttty miserable xD

[@henrybleisch]

@@Mmogurl this game seems to not be shy about the taboo pain romantic stuff it's funny how her and shadow heart dislike each other.. Since they do have a few things in common but shadow heart even in her name shows she has a Passionate side... Even if it's warped.. It would be fun if you can get the other characters to like each other too but that's asking way to much of the devs... But I would say with these 2 love interests pain is the point and you have to enjoy pain with the gith imo... In a casual play thing warrior cult sort of way...

[@jenshen7133]

I actually like her as a character as she is right now. She doesn’t appeal to me at all, of course, but still - her being rough on the outside and (!) inside is fucking glorious. I think there are too many tropes about “hard person being soft just for his friend/lover”. Cause she doesn’t strike me as one and such a thing would probably ruin her. Yeah, there could be more sides to her, I just hope they won’t make her too emotional. It doesn’t fit. Though it would be nice to win her trust a little bit and become a trusted companion.

[@Mmogurl]

I don't want her to be emotional and sappy! Not at all.. I don't think it suits her, ya know? I would like to see.. a smidge.. just a tiny bit of softening only to you. Like I said as in, not entirely insulting..sort of compliments? That could work.

[@jenshen7133]

@@Mmogurl yeah, totally get it! - I think I actually meant to make this comment a reply to somebody else’s one... So, I didn’t mean to imply you wanted her to be a “softie” 🙈 Pinky swear!

[@kevinzhu6417]

I agree, her having a consistent personality makes the small moments of kindness or fondness even more powerful. This can also be seen as character development which the player directly affected

[@GladRags]

@@Mmogurl Well image your character wants to feel the same as you. But too bad, so sad, loving a githyanki is platonic. As a wise terminator once said: I know now why you cry. But that is something I can never do.

[@txt5220]

"She just doesn't care what you think, it's not a bad thing. Hey, some people are into that." Why must you attack me like this? Q_Q

[@LawrenceCaldwellAuthor]

I think the githyanki lore fits with the way she sees other races. Would be really cool if you could get her to fall in love and care for you though. That would be really good character building.

[@betterthanflapjacks]

It honestly would be a waste and leave many upset if that doesn’t happen.

[@LawrenceCaldwellAuthor]

@@betterthanflapjacks Wouldn't be the first time a game dev screwed the pooch.

[@ohauss]

Similarly to what was done with Viconia in BG2.

[@SilentTitan437]

This aged like fine wine

[@catchyalata777]

You deserve more views! These BG3 videos have been great. Thank you for sharing.

[@Mmogurl]

Thanks! ;)

[@arcanaj]

I discovered she gets pretty bent if you pick someone else before talking to her. There's some, 'you could have had MY awesomeness' kind of talk. Then she assures you she'll find her fun elsewhere in a basically, 'then you'll be sorry' kind of tone.

[@Mmogurl]

Yeah even if she doesn't want you she will make this tease. It always confused the hell out of me because if I went to her first, she'd be like No thanks!

[@arcanaj]

@@Mmogurl In the end I keep going for Astarion. He's got a lot of baggage, but he's fun. Besides, Wyll kinda gets on my nerves, and Gale takes a lot of work only to keep talking to you like a buddy after the fact. I hope they correct a lot of that by release.

[@Sedines]

@@Mmogurl All the companions do that with me lol. "Too bad you didn't pick me!" "Okay, I pick you." "Just kidding!"

[@arcanaj]

@Al Dente Yeah, he kinda does.

[@138monkey9]

Everyday i wake up in the morning and i know that lae'zel is disapproving behind me

[@captain_morrigan7192]

I think with your suggestions they could easily make her romance akin to that of Morrigan in DA:O, she was a lot of effort, very against the idea of love but eventually softened up to your warden :3

[@TheSethGrahamJones]

I think her romance makes sense. It implies she is INCAPABLE of being in love. It’s cool to have a character like that. It’s also kinda funny to me. It’s a good option to have in the game. Though, I can see it being disappointing if you were EXPECTING true love from her.

[@ohauss]

Well, the situation with Viconia in BG2 was quite similar initially, with her seeing feelings of love as a weakness, as silly nonsense, but it was possible to change her outlook.

[@Drew_Thompson]

7:10, I don't think the narrator is implying that you disliked what happened, simply that it was more "athletic" than most people can handle.

[@dubiousbrick4483]

Lae’zel: “I mean to taste it” PC: O.o

[@Nyug3r]

She is being tsundere clearly.

[@txt5220]

I really like Lae'zel's character so far. I'm playing as a bloodthirsty killer who still fun and charismatic (think Wyll but more selfish) and Lae'zel seems to like my character, even when I defy her wishes and tease her. In the end of the EA, I managed to "romance" her even though my PC's approval was only medium. Lae'zel is all of the tsun, none of the dere.

[@jcfra420]

If you were raised around horses, I think the phrase to suit this why your in so much pain..Is "You were road hard, and put away wet".

[@Overlord99762]

Lae'zel: I smell your sweat, I mean to taste it PC: o_O

[@ravensblade5520]

IMO The appeal of the rough exterior in characters is how that changes when they are with someone they love and trust. Although there is a lot to like with Lae’zel, her being so one-dimensional is hard to connect with. I mean I get that Githyanki are not the nicest people in the lore, but this is a game trying to appeal to a wider audience at the end of the day.

[@Mmogurl]

Agree - I feel like they need to give you something besides feeling like her yes man.

[@sandrols7]

My guess is that they are working on it. Often times, Lae'zel comes more across as being insecure, and having high aspirations for herself that MAY end up not getting fullfilled, because the Githyanki are so ruthless and would prefer convenience over reward for dedication (IE they would kill Lae'zel when they find out she's infected, rather than go the extra mile to help her). This might induce a questline where: A: you help her redeem herself in the eyes of the Githyanki, or B: you help her become her own woman, not someone who will do everything to worship Vlaakith's rather toxic philosophy.

[@ohauss]

@@sandrols7 Agreed. I can see her reaching a point at which she realizes she's not as important as she'd like to be to her people and has kind of a "If I'm not important to them, they are no longer important to me" moment.

[@edwinbrown7179]

I tried this as a Githyanki there are a lot of options to call her out and even a dialogue after sex that is a bit different

[@Mmogurl]

My hub is trying to romance her as a gith too, he hasn't gotten there yet, but I was curious to see what differences there were. I would have bet that it would be a lot more satisfying being on peer with her.

[@edwinbrown7179]

@@Mmogurl It really was interesting my first play through was a human and then I rolled a Githyanki and I noticed many opportunities to offer a distinct viewpoint. And then I realized that even the romances were a bit different and flavorful. Romancing Shadowheart as a Gith is also fun! I feel like Lae’zel will mellow out a bit I’m thinking we will get some revelations about Vlaakith and Gith and the deal with Tiamat. I know my own character will change a bit and gain perspective if that is the case the puzzle box makes me suspicious and excited!

[@astrea4020]

I probably won’t ever romance Lae’Zel but I think her character is pretty interesting. The creche especially is an arc I’m interested in. When she inevitably finds out their either is no cure for the tadpole or that she’s not considered worthy of it if there were. In all likelihood they’ll probably try to kill her and the rest of our troupe. I think it’ll be a complete shift in her character when she has to find out who she is without the githyanki. I hope that arc is unlockable even without romancing her.

[@DJSpike-ft9yw]

Play as a githyanki, a lot of her dialogue and tone changes

[@HisameArtwork]

interesting

[@faselfasel2864]

It's so good to actually have a companion that is really representative of her race and not some "but I'm a good drow!" character. Really refreshing how she is 100% githyanki, no compromises whatsoever, without appearing bland.

[@abdoul5176]

Great insight, I'm subbing.

[@Mmogurl]

:)

[@weedterminator]

To Lae‘zel?

[@bolikde9389]

She reminds me of Morrigan in Dragon Age Origins.

[@forgetfulstranger]

Morrigan is more... subtle

[@jamesbailey5350]

Astarion is so uncomplicated, isn't he? Gale is like Toby from The Office.

[@seljuks1654]

haha

[@zellcrs]

Bard secret lore if you took the flute for this scene.

[@casono]

I dont mind when Lae'Lae is logical but cruel even if there may be better options. I look at her opinion as the "what if you fail dialogue options often approach". I just hate when her take on a situation is stupid and would cause more trouble than not.

[@Mmogurl]

The nick name is adorable.. Lae'Lae... and it works because she will call you a lay after you sleep together, so you can even say Laelay xD Sorry I know that's seriously lame, but I couldn't help it.

[@astorm9346]

Im hoping though that the interpersonal stuff is dran out over more of the game, not all the way to the end ofc, you want to reap the rewards and enjoy it before it all ends, but I also dont want it over and done in the first act :)

[@Mmogurl]

Agreed completely. I'm betting there will be more to it.

[@jamesbailey5350]

Both she and Shadowheart seek death at camp in certain scenes. The game seems to treat their stories (and considerable content) as expendable. What would be interesting to me in Lae'zel's story is to develop her cognitive dissonance at finding herself a liability to the Gith. It would be very rewarding to explore whether she can find redemption and meaning in transcending her identity. I find her story compelling, her conflict visceral.

[@shaydoor4597]

I really like how her romance is difficult to trigger. I like working for it.

[@henrybleisch]

I agree with you... I feel she's eliminated real feelings but being with a non gith or gith unlike her should definitely change her later later since it's so taboo for a gith like her to even be with or lay with a human etc. And given all that happens too... she could open up her thinking like you said.. Maybe opening her mind very slow would it be hard to do but it's fine if not all the way as the final reward. I do love massive character development personally ... It would be interesting for her to lose a major gith bias she has to even consider or major change to her life since this is her 1st adventure like this. Some might consider it could be out of character but she sleeps with you it isn't much different it would be fun to see her act a different way.

[@Kyle-hv8ed]

Before she lays you, She basically says she was very impressed with your combat prowess. If you continue impressing her, you might become a superior warrior in her eyes. What if in the story you save her life during a battle? How would that change her perspective/bias? I sense immense character development with Lae'zel

[@ava_2930]

@@Kyle-hv8ed Something similiar is when you use the tadpole and have the fever dream. When she threatens to kill you, you can take the knife away from her and theres the implication that you're going to kill her first before she turns. But you tell her that you won't do that (I forget the specific line) and she says she respects that decision even tho she basically was expecting you to kill her. So there's some aspect of respect gained in that regard.

[@silverblade357]

Apparently, there's a chance Lae'zel might pursue Astarion if your approval is good but not great. By her own admission, our dear posh vampire proves quite enthusiastic!

[@HisameArtwork]

lol, poor astarion, and he thought kazador was rough... I almost feel soy for him. almost

[@Lyvarious]

Reminds me a lot of the Jack romance in ME2

[@Mmogurl]

I have yet to play ME2, I have this thing where I always like to play games in order, but I really had a lot of trouble getting into the first game. I need to just say forget it and start on the 2nd one.

[@Lyvarious]

@@Mmogurl yeah ME 2 really pissed me off with the reliance on buying the dlc to get the 'complete' experience and 3 just made it worse. Jack was definitely a fun romance and surprisingly well written for a bioware game

[@bradyking4299]

Really? Jack was a very emotional character that hid behind her tough exterior to keep her trust issues buried, considering everyone and everything in her life basically just used her to their own benefit; or left her. She’s also a criminal with loyalty only to herself when we first meet her. I thought she was a psychopath at first. Lae’zel doesn’t really fit that bill at all for me. We can’t say she’s unemotional or lacking empathy, but she is in a foreign realm with races and a culture that are alien to her; she isn’t obligated to care. She’s also loyal to her queen and it seems like following the laws and customs of her culture are very important to her. Considering all of that and the situation you and her find yourselves in; she seems surprisingly stable for someone equally as alien to me. Maybe Lae’zel does have a softer side but I doubt it’ll be a “I’m just scared of connecting to someone and being used, or worse; you die and I have to live with that” I like both characters, but the only resemblance I see between them is that they both seem to be in a bad mood all the time to the person who can only hear their insults.

[@Lyvarious]

​@@bradyking4299 Hard to say if it's simiar for sure because we're talking about an 'alien' entity by our standards but the way I look at it is the Gith aren't encouraged to explore their emotional spectrum and go through formative experiences that have many parallels with Jack and what she went through. At face value they seem pretty different but, to me at least, it seems like the further you go in exploring both characters, the more common threads you begin to see. Even at her most 'soft', Jack is still kicking your ass and making it clear she is the decision maker in your relationship even if she will listen to your orders in ME2 but by ME3 she doesn't even let you boss her around anymore. Pretty satisfying relationship in a lot of ways, as long as you don't go down the 'booty call' route.

[@bradyking4299]

@@Lyvarious I’d say yeah there may be a few common threads that aren’t very close when you get into specifics, but both are fundamentally different by a long shot. I should say your opinion isn’t outrageous, I really do see those common threads but knowing about DnD lore I just can’t help but disagree. Least until we learn more about Lae’zel who might not be your ordinary Gith (since act 2 and 3 are in the air still) Jack seems way, way more immature in comparison, she can’t control her emotions, she hides her pain/feelings behind a rough exterior. At the end of the day it seems like Jack wants someone but is afraid of the inevitable and getting hurt again. She also has empathy and has some form of morality as seen in ME3. She doesn’t want to just fuck she wants to find someone who can care about her, where she could feel loved and wanted. Lae’zel is probably older than I can guess, and Githyanki in general are nothing alike humans. She’s not hiding her feelings, she has none for you, your companions or the world your standing on. Maybe she has emotions but she (and her race) see Faerun as nothing more than a place to raid and take whatever they want; be it loot or livestock. Knowing about their lore I’d honestly say she shouldn’t have any type of romance where she falls in love with the PC or wants to spend her life with them on a marriage level (least if your not a fellow gith, but even then they don’t really have marriage or families in their culture) . You aren’t of much value to her; maybe as a potential slave for the Githyanki to use on their labors for the rest of eternity, but that’s even doubtful. I trust her only because I know she’d most likely have tried to kill my human PC had we met under any different circumstances, and that trust is only there until I find a crèche. My aim is to give her a chance but I find it highly fucking doubtful she and her people wouldn’t just kill you over cure you, I’m (and the other companions) basically there to aid her to a crèche and then I’d have no other purpose to her. Tbh I could see Lae’zel becoming more friendly or empathetic towards others and the world she is in; softer in that aspect. But if they want to stick to lore as much as possible she shouldn’t. She shouldn’t want anything to do with you after everything gets resolved. Unless we somehow turn her against her own people (it’s technically doable lore-wise, but it’ll be hard in both persuading and dealing with the aftermath of it) I just can’t see her wanting to do anything else but get back to her realm and fight for her queen and people; and care and worry only for herself mostly.

[@edwinvermeulen8187]

Definatly going to try to romance her as a Gyth. See if that opens up other dialog

[@archmagosdeciuskronen1501]

I love Lae'zel, razor sharp but huggable.

[@Aerensianic]

I don't know if this is obvious to people who know the background lore but why do I feel like the purification she talks about is really just code for kill and burn the body to "purify" it but that Lae'Zel herself doesn't know this. Feels like they are definitely setting this up where she can become disillusioned with her people and their ways.

[@Sedines]

Especially since purification involves a "device" that attaches to your head. It probably kills you and the worm.

[@pvw732]

I was curious. Now I'm not. Thanks.

[@magistermagus1211]

From what ive read about the gith, they dont have a concept of monogamy, so she could just do the deed with anyone, even if you are in a relationship with her.

[@Violetbunnyfish]

They really need to unlock Lae'zel's awesome hairstyle for other races.

[@cloudsRniceC0M3]

a lay is a lay

[@wuftchan8299]

1:42 that What made me a sub so fast

[@wuftchan8299]

8:10 nah shes a block of coal is and always will be XD shes one of those anime characters who does nothing but abuse you and yet they still waifu material like the tall vampire lady from resident evil

[@josephwhite4280]

haven't played this yet loved bg2 thinking about picking this up, anyway I would love to see some form of a blood bond where she's your mate very protective and would die for you! Like a strong bromance but...

[@BNRmatt]

She reminds me too much of my abusive ex to be even remotely appealing.

[@t-love8351]

at you least you can find solace in the fact that you dated a githyanki in the real world.

[@BNRmatt]

I would trade ugly, green, and nose-less, but nice, for the beautiful, brutal narcissist I ended up with.

[@peppermint1349]

I love her idk why but she is such awesome character XD

[@raykael]

this is exactly how you would expect a Gith to have a "romance" with any other race. I wonder if your character is a Gith himself what happens...

[@Mmogurl]

I'm testing out a gith game right now and will be putting up a new video for it - probably in a couple weeks give or take.

[@HisameArtwork]

lol, you're her best advocate ... I'll ad that she's a pretty competent companion, she can use the bow and some spells, she doesn't die in one hit like Gale or that dandelion Astarion, she's not as annoying as Shadowface, out of all the companions I dislike her the least XD

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

I'm still grumpy that Dragonborn and Half-Orc are not playable races.

[@shaolinzendragon4737]

Yeah,, she should fall in love with the Character. Beings love in different ways and although she is Githyanki, she still could harbor some type of feeling. Yes,, it is abnormal for Githyanki, but that doesn't mean that there are no exceptions. I wouldn't expect it to be mushy mushy, but i would expect something much more than what is given.. Especially if the Player Character is a Githyanki his or herself. That would be BADASS to play a Githyanki and have a full blown relationship with her. I mean the Sha'sal Khou exists, so there are those who do have opinions and feelings. They are humanoids. The opportunity to do something great with this option could be amazing. I don't understand why Larian would want to cripple it instead of exploring it.

[@Mmogurl]

My hub played as a gith and said that she was a LOT more personable, but he didn't make it through the full game yet. I think he moved onto other stuff by now.. I'm probably going to try a gith game as well to see if there are any major changes with the love scene.

[@kimmmmm871]

So same gender romance is available for all character or laezel has specific taste??

[@Mmogurl]

Same gender romance is available for all as far as I know

[@randomclod385]

Apparently a writer said that Shadowheart is straight but bi-curious. Wyll and Gale are straight, Lae'zel is pansexual, and Astarion is a hedonist that will have sex with anyone. But for this game everyone is playersexual.

[@Kyle-hv8ed]

@@randomclod385 I remember Astarion saying he had a preference for men or something along those lines. He still takes you as a female though lol

[@000Dragon50000]

You've got all the other ones, what about Shadowheart? (Note* I'm not a fan of any of them honestly, I'm a lesbian so Wyll, Astarion and Gale are just off limits for me, Minthara is a bundle of nopes and even for a Lolth-devoted drow I couldn't see this actually happening, she'd just kill the heretic singing the praises of this "absolute" creature, and Lae'Zel is um ahem a bit too rough for my tastes but even Shadowheart is grim and somewhat superficially edgy, I just want to do gay things to a sweet, nice girl, none of the current companions do it for me.)

[@SpadeDraco]

Yeah Shadowheart is basically the only character my main is even vaguely compatible with right now. Everybody else is either genuinely cruel or has an ego the size of the sun. Wyll is alright I guess though I have the opposite issue of you (I'm hopelessly straight) so romancing him wasn't really considered.

[@000Dragon50000]

@@SpadeDraco Mmm. I do have some hopes for the tiefling girl with the crossbow but she can't join the party at the moment so I can't really explore that.

[@shawcalhoun4372]

As a straight dude who doesn't exactly have any interest in being dominated or treated like dirt, I'm with you all the way on this. My question is why in the world isn't Alfira romanceable!?

[@Draven-s8b]

Hey lae'zel romance is in the game.. bugging and haf way but its there go go!

[@firesniperbullet2]

Character development for a githyanki???? That would be out of character as hell for alot of races in DND

[@baneoftheundead8064]

Based on the people you're going to be around in this game, plus the "Illithid romance" in your head, I"m so glad I'm going to use m neutral evil warlock (Great Old Ones) character first...😈

[@VaughanDavies]

Futurama reference? fuck yeah

[@Ennuigo423]

Hot take: The female narrator is a judgmental and unreliable narrator because she IS the Tadpole! One of the other times you hear her being extremely biased is when you try to kill the dwarf’s tadpole. The Narrator is not your friend!

[@Mmogurl]

xD I love this line of thought! hahah

[@mdudand897]

what happens if you say to her "cool off and show some respect or we're done here" ??

[@anahata8870]

Gonna watch this !

[@Quole1234]

Totally worth it ❤

[@SuperChristian808]

She is a follower of the quin

[@Jebu911]

Well having sex with someone and telling after it meant nothing is pretty realistic and on point to the character. I did that all the time in real life.

[@greaterrestoration6214]

All romances are lacking. For the most part, everyone just tolerates you and reluctantly let's you bang. It would be nice to see at least one loving relationship.

[@Mmogurl]

'reluctantly lets you bang' xD I would say Astarion is more enthusiastic about banging ;D

[@greaterrestoration6214]

@@Mmogurl lol yes he's the only one that kinda likes you.

[@murderbunnies]

So how do giths have sex? She releases a clutch of eggs in the sand of the river camp and then you go and fertilize them while she chills in the tent?

[@cealfonsovargas]

Depends how u take the tired acking meaning lol

[@zoriononline]

There's more acts to follow, Ea only got act 1 so. I doubt someone who's hardcoded/programmed like she and her race is to follow codes/protocols etc, would change over nite. They see themselves as superior to all, and that you in this case of lay, just was the best suited, nothing personal. Will it change in the later acts, most likely

[@JoschiChr]

I don't feel like the GM sounds biased against Lae'zel here.

[@KingMadDog7]

As someone who has rp’d enough characters to romance all of our companions, I’ve gotta say I’m not super interested in any of them. I feel like deep down, none of them can really be trusted. I truly wish the developers would let us romance non-party members. Although maybe I’m biased because I’ve got mega-crushes on Nettie, Alfira, and Kagha.

[@wuftchan8299]

7:10 bro she used you as a sex toy it completely makes sense for her XD- she took in no consideration in allowing you to feel good

[@jacobborton3114]

While I think I see where you're coming from with your criticism of the narrator dialogue, I don't interpret it the same way. When I hear the narrator after your night with Lae'zel, I don't hear the same bias as you. All I hear is exhaustion. Whether your character enjoyed themselves that night or not, it can easily be said that the night was anything but restful. There are number of things that I've done in my life that I thought were worth it but still left me in pain and exhausted afterwards. My inner monologue would sound much like the narrator's voice. Just tired. Being tired and sore doesn't mean you don't also think it was worth it. I just see the narrator's voice as expressing that exhaustion. Whatever your character expected a night with Lae'zel to be like, it was more. Now they know and can better prepare if they decide to go for another round.

[@bebelvillar4390]

It just meant raw

[@BrianDgreat123]

The game devs are obviously WAY into bdsm.

[@boredgamer7841]

3:23 was also my reaction to this cringey dialogue

[@nicholasmartin5417]

I wish it was more like sebille from div 2, where when you first meet her she has a blade at your throat but becomes more affectionate around the end of the game.

[@mehwhatever9726]

Nah, it feels boring. Then she says that she wants the protag, I don't buy it, everything in her behavior until that point shows absolutely no inerest in any kind of contact, especially with non-her species, whom she generally considers lower, as a resul it looks complitely unnatural. It'd fit to make her only interested in relationship with a gith protag, would basically mean she's racsist, but would better fit with her character. A domination kind of relatioship also needs a build-up to be interesting, that's the most fun part actually, when a dominating character teases you into submission with a promise of reward, with her feels more like: "- Fine let's just get it over with, I'll pretend like I want it because you're a protag and that fucking writer leaves me no choice, guess I'll also make it more painful for you since I'm forced to do it anyway..."

[@Kyle-hv8ed]

I completely disagree with you in every aspect of your analysis on Lae'zel except for the race superiority. I don't want to get into a real long response, but the writing for her romance scene doesn't feel forced. A lawful evil warrior is impressed by your skill in battle and got turned on by it. Before that, she commends you for placing trust in her, she's not dismissive about your safety when it comes to the red dragon. Besides that, during the romance scene, you have the option to dominate her instead. I really wonder how much that will shape the relationship on if you top her or not.

[@mehwhatever9726]

@@Kyle-hv8ed Shame though, I prefer long discussions. Not the romance scene itself is the problem, but the fact that there is completely no buildup to it, maybe it will be added later, but If it won't the whole relationship will just feel like a dev is flipping the switch on and off. She states that your race is highly inferior to giths and that even your looks are disturbing to her, but then suddenly she's like: you wanna fuck? Ok lets fuck... Just ??????... No offense, but the d&d alignment thing I always considered uninteresting and restrictive, there is much more to good character writing than a preset moral system. I wouldn't count on romance scene dialogs having a big impact on other interactions, aside from one or two special dialogs/phrases, like in Divinity 2. There doesn't seem much attention to that detail, but at the same time can't blame them too much since they are restricted by the scale of the story, it really comes down to the structure they use from the beginning.

[@serenenightful]

I didn't care for it. I don't find the pain stuff, hot, and I was put off by the way she spoke to TAV, I get it, she's a proud warrior from a evil culture, but surely even they have to do courting at some level. And she's a huge miss for me.

[@Bob-mo4no]

At the end talking a about your slight disappointment with the romance scene you need to stop expecting human emotions for a githyanki they are a alien warrior race not human