Lagoon 450 - Bay of Biscay to south Spain, Mediterranean

Sailing Lagoon 450 catamaran across Bay of Biscay to Gibraltar and Malaga. We started on 3. March wich is not the best time to cross and had many cyclones. Lagoon 450 did a good job and is a very good catamaran. Lagoon Catamarans.
SUBSCRIBE to my channel: bit.ly/3wLa6vp
My Outdoor KZbin Channel / @outdoor5
www.alivesailing.com/
/ skipper_igor

[@danievandermerwe4670]

Sailing all the time and not a music compilation . Loved every minute. Thanks

[@IgorStropnik]

😊

[@marcellospreafico9593]

I don’t understand what you people have against music! Music and sailing go together is about rhythm of life...

[@rimasmeleshyus6545]

Great video,many thanks, I am enjoying watching your incredible adventure. Fair winds

[@IgorStropnik]

😊

[@john3Lee]

A great video... I'm looking forward to seeing more of your adventure :)

[@IgorStropnik]

Thanks!

[@mmfussballtalk8763]

Bumpy Ride 🤪 and the Electric door is to Calm down 😀

[@mattandtamsin]

Another great video Igor. I know you are always looking for ways to pass on your sailing knowledge and so I would love to hear you give some in-depth advice on sail plans for different sea conditions and wind directions. Huge respect buddy and thanks to your passion for sailing and Croatia I’m heading over to your home land on a sailing holiday with my family this summer!

[@IgorStropnik]

Thanks 🙏 Hope to film how to sail series this summer

[@robertkooiman27]

Nice video. I've been sailing for close to 10 years on offshore ships, I have a tip for sleeping: For bad weather on ships use earplugs and put stuff under your mattress so you are wedged between the wall and the mattress. You move a lot less and should be able to rest a bit.

[@IgorStropnik]

Good idea 👍 thanks 🙏🍻

[@sailingsomewherejames5167]

Great videos Igor, I must have watched 6-7 over the last few days. I've picked up loads of tips on your deliveries, thank you. I did my 1st Biscay crossing in March, crewing on a new FP 42 cat, rounding Galicia in 5m - 6m waves, 24hrs after a F9 gale was an eye opener having mostly just been a coastal sailor up to then! The trip was great fun tho. Keep up the good work.

[@IgorStropnik]

Thanks 🙏

[@fedyfedorov1555]

здорово ребята!

[@IgorStropnik]

:)

[@dragonblee1]

Great video, good narration, bloody awful seas. I'll take the airplane. Cheers

[@IgorStropnik]

Thanks! In summer it is better but don't go in March like we did.

[@alexanderl1366]

Я вот наслушался всякого, как переворачиваются катамараны, так мне теперь стрёмно смотреть на Ваши трипы.

[@IgorStropnik]

They can but you have to try very hard. We had max. 6m waves, 40kn and no problems.

[@fedyfedorov1555]

какое время года идёте? я пойду в начале мая с северной Ирландии,пока ветер держит

[@KONKHMER-uh7ef]

HBD boy

[@SavvySalt]

Looks like a fun trip! What video camera were you using? It does a really good job stabilizing the footage even when that catamaran was bouncing all over the place!

[@IgorStropnik]

Gopro 6. It has digital stabilization.

[@jimsullivanyoutube]

Nice video. Really got a sense of what it's like to sail on the boat because you shot it with a gimbal.

[@IgorStropnik]

It was only gopro 6 and no gimbal. It has very good electronic stabilization.

[@jimsullivanyoutube]

@@IgorStropnik Oh wow, that's awesome. There was another guy who shot a sailing video with a gimbal. It really makes sailing videos so much better. Here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJCnomOcaLyqjZo The audio sounded great too -- that's surprising because I thought GoPro audio wasn't so good?

[@IgorStropnik]

Gopro is the best.

[@granskare]

I used be on Lake Superior in Upper Michigan - that lake could be quite stormy and not much room to navigate. Your videos are interesting :)

[@IgorStropnik]

I have a friend who wants to take his boat from Europe to Lake Superior. I hope to join him.

[@JoseRivero-js5ow]

Igor Para ti que catamaran es mejor para cruce del Atlántico los fountaine pajot el asprea 42 el elba 45 o los lagoo 44, 46 GRACIAS x tu informacion

[@VoyagingVoyager]

Great video, one question as I am considering a Lagoon cat, I noticed a creaking sound in your video, do you know what that sound is and do you consider the boat to be quiet under sail? thanks.

[@IgorStropnik]

Maybe waves bumping into area between hulls. If you get heavy weather and you sail upwind it sounds like boat will fall apart but it does not as it is well built. When you have normal weather boat is quiet.

[@arvischilf2950]

All Lagoons creaking that way. Probably built in. And its annoying. Depending how big is the boat. Havnt heard the same on FP for example.

[@jimsullivanyoutube]

Hey Igor, what were you guys doing with the boat? Was that a delivery? How do you get to crew on sails like that?

[@IgorStropnik]

Delivery. I ask if somebody wants to go.

[@stevelawrie9115]

Love the tortellini short cut :)

[@IgorStropnik]

I am the only one who still loves tortellini... 😊

[@stevelawrie9115]

@@IgorStropnik That's keen. :) Looks like a pretty rough passage to cross.

[@IgorStropnik]

March is not best time for Biscay but is doable.

[@opinionmatters7119]

Been on another lagoon. The 50. It creaked just as bad.

[@IgorStropnik]

They all sound like they will fall apart but somehow they dont. I would take 450 over any new model that are kind of soft and low.

[@CaptainGrigori]

👍⚓

[@IgorStropnik]

:)

[@Ben-of6rp]

What do you prefer in big waves like that, catamaran or monohull?

[@IgorStropnik]

Catamaran is more comfortable.

[@user-cc4go1jk9s]

Whats your opinion of the flybridge vs sportop?

[@IgorStropnik]

Flybridge is grate but you don't see people under so dangerous with kids.

[@auslander1026]

Have you heard about bulkheads problem with this model? What are your thoughts?

[@IgorStropnik]

I did. Not expert on that 😞

[@jneil78]

Just curious...who is the older American gentleman? Does he work for the se company as you? Wondering how he ended up on a few of your delivery trips. Thanks!

[@IgorStropnik]

A good friend.

[@jneil78]

@@IgorStropnik lucky guy!

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

@@jneil78 I wish that was me!

[@StartVisit]

Igor how would you compare Lagoon 42 and 45? do you feel any advantage prons and cons? thank you.

[@IgorStropnik]

L42 wins at cockpit design, good access to bum and main sail and the best lifting system for dingy. L42 self tack gib sucks- Impossible to trim the sail well. L450F wins at flybridge, more rigid and stronger hulls, better for heavy weather, better in big and short waves as it has more clearence so less banging. Bimini we had was grate for sun and rain but was to high and to big to allow good access to bum and main sail-I find this a big problem for long ocean sailing. Inside the L450F is a little bigger and more space but L42 has lot of space too and both are good for 8 people cruising in comfort. Both catamarans are very well designed and very comfortable. If I had to choose I take L450F because of flybridge. But for much less money you can get L42 with the best cockpit design and you can have furling Code 0 to supplement self tack gib.

[@StartVisit]

Igor Stropnik thank you for detailed info! One more question, based on your personal experience, do you think cats like L450 or 42 with proper crew can handle long passages like transatlantic or pacific? Also do you think in overall catamaran is better choice compared to monohull for long voyages? Thank you again.

[@IgorStropnik]

Both cats can sail around the world with no problems and with a lot of comfort. For long voyages cats are the best. I would say people buy sailboats becouse they are cheaper, they never tried cats, want good upwind performance, want sporty sailing and don't want to pay more in marinas. Sailboats are more fun to sail but after few days non stop sailing you will wish to be on cat. Only thing I don't like about cruising cats is up wind performance witch is terrible. But all other wind angles are grate.

[@StartVisit]

thank you again.

[@CHRIS198490]

hi what do you think about cat range 30-38 can be used for blue water ? i mean older cats as I am not rich but looking something affordable are older cats in range above are capable for world cruising ?

[@jtolken]

What is it with you and tortellini? Is it all you can cook and eat? lol

[@IgorStropnik]

and some ketchup for flavour :)

[@franksaruhan]

Why did you let the waves pounding to the bow? Why dont you go diagonal to the waves? It may diminsih the life of the hull.

[@IgorStropnik]

This was March and hard to get good weather window to cross biscay. On video you see few biggest waves otherwise it was not too bad. You can go diagonal but than you dont get where you have to go. Swell is always into biscay so if you loose height you will get eaven worese or stuck for sever days or more in harbour.

[@MonkPetite]

That way of sailing will not really diminish hull life.. what manual did you reed.?

[@franksaruhan]

@@MonkPetite it is just a fatique loading and every part has a life.

[@IgorStropnik]

I agree. I have never seen lagoon cat have problems with hull because of sailing in waves. Hull will live longer than most other parts of the boat.

[@EnricoFranconiPolisportiva]

Great route, and in hard moment of the year! I sail a homemade dinghy and you can see it on my channel. I follow you!

[@IgorStropnik]

Nice boat! Looks light and fast. How long is it and the weight?

[@IgorStropnik]

I follow you too :)

[@EnricoFranconiPolisportiva]

4,75 m in lenght, 70 Kg the hull (6mm plywood)... light and fast! Class "Goat Island Skiff", design by Michael Storer.

[@arvischilf2950]

Been looking through. Nice video. But here is some offers to skipper. Your wind data missing actually most important figures like apparent wind angle and speed. Instead you have TWD and TWA what is actually copying itself. The last leg after passing the Albufeira you got backwind and for some reason didnt fix your genoa into position, so it were flying and jumping and you definitely didnt got no comfort neither the top speed out of it. And boom traveller position didnt make sense as well, though boom you tried to fix into position. Maybe there were some time between you took the pic from windclock and then continued to talk and wind were changing the direction... Anyway all in all very positive and optimistic video. One of the best to say so on showing the real situation on the water.

[@IgorStropnik]

B&G is funny as I could not set awa and aws on small screen. I put it on plotter. Twd is good to follow for wind shift tendency. For getting max out of sails I use extra ropes but it is not racing so after setting all the ropes over and over again and wind shifting sometimes you get lazy especially if your speed is already very good.

[@user-mx5ez8nz6w]

ZIK ZIK Sound.. ㅠㅠ

[@alejandrofernandez8244]

Siempre paráis en la jodida Gibraltar

[@IgorStropnik]

Cheap diesel...

[@JoseRivero-js5ow]

A cuántas Millás navegas de la Costa

[@IgorStropnik]

Up to 150nm on this trip.

[@JoseRivero-js5ow]

@@IgorStropnik Igor, para ti cual es MEJOR catamarán para cruce del Atlántico : el asprea 42 fp el elba 45 fp , lagoon 44, 46 gracias por tu informacion y buenos vientos 🤗🇦🇷

[@IgorStropnik]

⁠@@JoseRivero-js5owI only sailed 46. Elba is probably similar to Saona who I gave good review. Fp42 probably the worst of these. L440 might be the best option but never sailed it. 440 seams like good old boat before Lagoon started doing to flexy boats. Any of these boats should bring you to Caribbean but don’t take them to North Atlantic in winter.

[@JoseRivero-js5ow]

@@IgorStropnik Gracias x tu informacion buenos vientos

[@gonefishing1939]

that kinda sucks, ive had mono hulls all my life, i think my 36 would handle that about as good as your 45. alot of jerking motion going on, to many different directions for me, that looks like a rodeo.

[@IgorStropnik]

It is diffrent motion than monohull but most of time I find catamarans more comfortable.

[@DinoAlberini]

I’m surprised it wasn’t an inflatable catamaran of 450cm 😂

[@IgorStropnik]

:) I am getting old...

[@user-bg5zd7wo5f]

Как хотелось бы на русском😞

[@IgorStropnik]

Subtitles should be there now I hope.

[@stevetaylor7976]

Crap boat