Laindon Police/Probation Office. Police Harass Member of the Public

Hi Guys
I visited Laindon Police Station which is in the Basildon area of Essex and beside it sits a Probation Service Building.
I wasn't sure if these would be separate videos or if I would merge them together at the time of filming but as it happens they naturally went together to create the one piece of content.
I choose to start filming at the Police building first and it wasn't until I went round to the Probation office that things got a little more interesting.
I've got to admit the first officer I dealt with was really infuriatingly annoying and I lost patience with him very quickly as you will see in the video. His approach was beyond embarrassing and even more so when the younger officers arrived and clearly knew how to interact with members of the public.
The 2 officers that arrived on scene handled the situation perfectly unlike there older and I would assume more senior colleague. I just hope that they have that attitude further into their career and don't let cynicism creep in like what appears to have happened with the first officer.
As always guys I look forward to reading your thoughts on this.
Stay Safe
TLA
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[@GrantfromEarth]

Best way to make a cop look stupid is to let them talk

[@cliffordbuttle4529]

1%😊😊😊

[@dogsbod]

Haha

[@citizendefence5323]

so very true

[@mr_dunne_author]

💯

[@martinkingsbury2179]

Very very true

[@craigfeek2157]

The lack of intelligence from the police is quite worrying

[@Rabmac1UK]

There is far less intelligence required nowadays to become a Police Officer, as in passing the training course, which is also much easier to pass than it used to be. In Summary, Less Intellect Required to pass a far Easier Qualification....says it all really What AMAZES me is that Auditing has now been going on for some years, and the Police are still not educated from above. That can only mean the Management is Stupid

[@Adam-ge8iq]

I’ve been told by a serving police officer (met) that they have lowered their testing and entrance standards and it’s really showing now unfortunately

[@chrisbevis7725]

That along with their lazyness imo is the reason few crimes are ever solved. I mean how long did Wayne Couzins work as a cop and nobody noticed he was a dangerous psychopath? They are hired these days for their lack of intelligence it seems.

[@Adam-ge8iq]

I think nowadays ‘in this day and age’ as the idiots like to say, it’s just another job for the £. Years ago people wanted to help the community and were proud to be officers, now it’s the complete opposite

[@TheRedleader01]

@@chrisbevis7725 i never put the word intelligence and police in the same sentence

[@turnoffccgooglepleasedawso7406]

If he treats public like that on camera. Can you imagine how he abuses them off camera..!

[@dantealighieri9540]

He feels invincible because through the years he's become accostumed to Joe Public bowing his knee to him, every single time he approaches them.

[@sarahbrown9301]

I wonder how many lives he's ruined

[@misssparky5574]

@@dantealighieri9540 🎯👍👏💯🤯🤡🐷🥓😡

[@mathew8581]

What a useless article

[@chrisbevis7725]

And of course the big issue for me with a cop like this is how he would treat our children, elderly or other vulnerable citizens on the street when no cameras are watching.

[@davidbarnard1126]

Q: What is the MOST SUSPICIOUS thing in the world ? A: A friendly police officer who justs wants to chat.

[@user-rn9qf8ll2f]

Maybe the first officer should try getting a new job in the circus because he's a real clown.

[@StanByme00]

That young cop's expression was priceless - and spoke volumes.

[@matthunt2128]

He was fuming inside.

[@cadiencanaille4387]

Great job! That officer is a real jerk. He wants to intimidate a citizen who is doing nothing wrong and proceeds to harass him as long as possible.

[@chrisbevis7725]

Yet he and so many others would work happily alongside Wayne Cousins and all the other sick perverts discovered in the police service.

[@robwilson8673]

You cannae educate a cabbage 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

[@satiricalsocrates8860]

Police: So, what exactly are you filming? Socrates: Matters. Police: And what matters specifically would those be? Socrates: Interesting matters. Police: And just who in particular is displaying an interest in our station? Socrates: The public. Police: And what could possibly be interesting to the public about a police station? Socrates: Matters. Police: And which matters of the police station are pointedly interesting? Socrates: Public matters. Police: And which public matters definitively would those be? Socrates: Interesting public matters. Police: And who precisely is interested in any of these public matters? Socrates: The public that matter. Police: And who uniquely are the public that matter? Socrates: An interested public. Police: And what explicitly is this interest in police matters? Socrates: Public interest. Police: And why especially the curious public interest in this police station? Socrates: Public interest always matters. Police: And how notably will this public interest be used such that it matters? Socrates: Making public what matters to those interested. Police: And who characteristically, other than the police, have you been filming? Socrates: An interesting public. Police: What in the world anywhere, in anyone's wildest imagination, is intriguing in anyway whatsoever, to anybody in their right mind, about a police station? Socrates: Matters of public interest.

[@bernieyott5788]

This is brilliant!..🤜*🤛 Thanks for that. Bless

[@colinpryor4290]

And repeat, ad infinitum.

[@robturner4912]

@@Wearetherevolution1 Yes, apart from the responses from 'Police'. This example of a police officer talking is WAY above what any of them could possibly utter. Words such as 'intriguing', 'explicitly', 'characteristically', uniquely', 'pointedly,' would never be used by a person with an IQ in double digits.

[@chrisbevis7725]

And the fact that our hard earned money is taken off uss to pay for half witted thug cops like this one.

[@JoBo301]

Complete and total humiliation of the plain-clothed cop

[@williamhamilton2934]

First copper was a clown. Why do they think we have to bow down to them.

[@lukekings6913]

You’re so right to get frustrated with that first bloke. He was a muppet. He was speaking to you like a piece of s**t

[@peterb2272]

21:18. The grin on that young cops face. He knew those two had just been been humbled and was happy seeing the arrogant plain clothes cops being shown up in front of him. He could not contain his amusement.

[@robwilson8673]

He will make a very very rare . Good Cop

[@davinci3919]

Police seem to get themselves into a muddle and it's down to lack of knowledge of their job and laws. Then ego kicks in and it gets messy.

[@cliffordbuttle4529]

It’s common sense but if you have not got the sense to know it what can you do .plod looking for job in the circus so he can put his makeup on😊😊😊😊

[@bournagin4439]

Talking about putting a camera over a high wall. Should have told him you have a drone. That would have really got his knickers in a twist. What an absolute PERLONKER!

[@totolondon]

Lol 😮

[@Cornelious1882]

Seeing their so called authority evaporate because a member of the public knows his Lawful Rights. Never gets old. Awesome TLA Cheers👍

[@thelaughingauditor]

Appreciate it thank you

[@goldennews4966]

Again i am stunned, after all of the audit visits carried out over the last couple years or so, that police still come out and question people outside police stations and show their complete lack of knowledge of the basic lawssurrounding photography.

[@Zakalwe76]

They know but choose to ignore it.

[@williamsteventon6191]

The first cop proved himself to be a right muppet trying to feed his childish ego and points out that he should be kept well away from the public , The young one was sound and seemed to find his collegue quite amusing as he continued to make a fool of himself

[@WilsonCarefree]

He’s like a bratty kid

[@tompo7467]

Puerile bravado

[@Stealth360stealth]

Omg 21:15 is hilarious when the older officer walks off and the camera turns to young officer 😂 he’s smirking about it all going on youtube and he worked it out within seconds 😂😂

[@eveeve9758]

These are too watchable.

[@tjslooking]

When anyone bruises a coppers Ego, by not bowing down to their perceived authority. They become like spoiled angry little children that mommy has just told No you can't have a candy.

[@canveyhistory]

Was that Police Officer under the influence of something intoxicating? Seemed too "fired up".

[@Hammertime054]

Probably Basildon’s finest disco dust😂😂😂

[@lozziel9662]

no, he's just so used to everyone doing as he says without question

[@steve10]

I see it more and more , a lot of them seem coked up these days , they go from 0-100 in a sniff and they are uncontrollable. I would like to see every copper drug checked before , and during their shift , they are being filmed and their wide eyes and small pupils and attitudes can only be explained by drugs or uncontrolled adrenaline both of which is dangerous

[@DMC888]

Drunk on power 😂

[@markymark272]

Just a few lines

[@sandymacdonald8485]

The lack of intelligence in the the police is shocking!

[@SnakePliskin762]

Quite a broad ranging statement based on a conversation in a car park. I'm sure there's more to plods job we don't see here.

[@stuartb4525]

@@SnakePliskin762 It's a fact, the police aren't known for intelligence nor for detective skills. Last year there clear up rate was what something like 7%? Granted the courts don't help, but mostly due to lack of evidence etc, the courts can't convict someone on the say so of the police nowadays, because they can't be trusted.

[@johnseabrook1703]

@@SnakePliskin762 I don’t think so.The police today, are useless.

[@SnakePliskin762]

@@stuartb4525 Well it isn't a fact is it to be pedantic.That most plod need a degree these days rather than direct entry i would say intelligence isn't what's lacking. To deal with sexual violence,safeguarding,mental health to name but a few would require a reasonable level of intelligence than dealing with a youtuber in a carpark. As I've said before, it's easy to judge on the sidelines,if youtubers like to find out the truth do a bit of hobbybobbying and find the bent ones. Me personally,I'd rather have a frontal lobotomy than be a copper in this day & age.

[@SnakePliskin762]

@@stuartb4525 as for the cps,it's not lack of evidence or the lack of workrate from the police,they are just simply spineless and bow to the usual 'hes had a bad upbringing' bs and convince the judge to a lesser sentence. Country's gone to 💩

[@baltvdb]

Amazing how often the auditor is the calm grown-up & the cop is the barely controlled threatening yob. Great upload.

[@heateslier]

yes that's because they don't like it and come out primed to interrupt and prevent, but if not they get mad and try to create or provoke something that could justify stopping by force, also called fishing

[@misssparky5574]

@@heateslier 🎯👏💯🤯🤡🐷🥓😡

[@joehelferty2341]

Muppet polis. Embarrassed for this so called cop. Egotistical muppet.

[@marli288]

Haa "this is the point of the excersies" How we all in general get told Orderd /threatened Wat to do! It's not a free world if you Question them, they always Overkill.. xx

[@ianbrown6589]

That first copper was on point for the first minute.... immediately when requested ids himself...name...number and station......then after that dives straight into the muppet show.🤣🤣

[@johnm2051]

Using police words? Are they covered by the official secrets act? 😂😂

[@colinpryor4290]

Using Police words and phrases and understanding Police IT systems and the law and how it works definitely gives cops grounds for suspicion of someone being a terrorist. It says so in the 'Clutching At Straws' chapter in the Police Training Manual.

[@theresaheath2654]

That first one was ridiculous, he certainly needs retraining and rightly deserves the title of being a muppet. I totally agree he could learn a lot from the younger gentleman.

[@raycharles9194]

The strange officer has just been mugged off wholesale and clearly isn't stable.. It's worrying he's a public servant

[@robinwbarrett]

What a tyrant the old copper was, he seriously needs either re-training or putting out to grass

[@davedublin676]

WELL SAID THIS IS WHAT WE OVER PAY FOR, AND THEY EXPECT , US 2 RESPECT THESE INDOCTRINATED TREASONOUS SELLOUTS, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE LAST FEW YEARS, NO CHANCE, BUT THAT'S ONLY MY OPINION, REGARDS BROTHER'S AND SISTERS.

[@williamsteventon6191]

Spot on

[@misssparky5574]

Dave Dublin, 👍👏👏💯🎯🤯🤡🐷🥓😡🙋‍♀️🇬🇧

[@dize3672]

The young officer was very friendly. Thumbs up to him.

[@davelordy]

_"Are you willing to give me your details yet"_ I wonder if he's like this with women in bars ? Maybe that's were he picked it up, if he pesters women for long enough, even though they've said no to him a dozen times, sometimes he can get their details ? He needs to learn that no-means-no.

[@tc5042]

That young PC was smiling😃 all the time, because he knew the score and was very good .👍

[@takeapictureitlllastlonger5768]

Epaulettes MUST be worn, he is not in full uniform!

[@topcat1358]

At 10:40 - Well done for walking away. That guy is talking major league BS. He is a complete numpty and his ego is out of control!

[@dr_dr]

Why does he imagine you have to justify what you're doing, especially to him? And you don't have to understand from his point of view like he demands. I bet he's an absolute joy in any social setting.

[@judithmatthews8460]

An officer ill equipped to take part in a battle of wits.

[@easynowoldchap04]

Can tell the young copper watches and likes these audit videos

[@thelaughingauditor]

I got that impression

[@UncleMarty]

It's clear that it's only a matter of time before the young PC finds this and then wonders how people found him by inspecting the comments so leave a message for him here :) Buddy, you were AWESOME. You were relaxed around the camera which shows you have nothing to fear :) you came off as friendly and professional. Good job for looking up auditors and for making yourself a better cop. You're a credit to the police! Also, thanks to TLA for another great vid, don't forget to hit like for him!

[@scottandrewhorne4655]

Very well said God Bless You Amen xxxxxxx And God Bess Your Earthly Family Amen xxxxxxx

[@misssparky5574]

@@scottandrewhorne4655 👍👏💯❤🇬🇧🙋‍♀️

[@pos2215]

Great video very well handled by yourself shame about the police officer who couldn’t let it go 😂but glad to see Gareth bales got a new career lo 😂

[@grahamh6988]

Using police words?.....Like PNC?....Is that a secret acronym? I think not......

[@eddyblackmore2834]

Watch a single episode of Police Interceptors and you'll learn all about the Police National Computer, Automatic Number Plate Recognition, National Police Air Service, and so much more. Oh, and you'll also see them violating people's rights on a hunch because it looks good for the camera. Here's to you, 'Spike', and all the civil claims you generated for ratings. How is that show any different from auditing? Easy. Auditing is legal.

[@zikotesh6121]

Great audit, in my opinion your best so far and i have watched them all. Thanks.

[@thelaughingauditor]

I appreciate it Ziko

[@Marc.Vanguard]

That first guy, what a knob jockey! He's the sort that only has police friends because no one else can stand him.

[@timw6596]

Once the first guy started to follow me I would have walked down the public path and kept walking, turning at every corner for hours to make him walk. The second guys came out real nice when told to by the first guy, they played nice-nice but you know they were going to follow you and ask for your details ! Great video, keep it up !

[@AD-53]

That's it walk away he was doing my head in as well, just stop arguing with him he loves it. He needs a psych check

[@Blaggard]

They can't stand not being able to control you. Corrupt to the core.

[@gibboj]

top man keep up the good work , respeck to you for your work and showing what most police staff are like

[@thelaughingauditor]

Much appreciated

[@tman5634]

So fed up with police officers going on about their personal cars being photoed etc. ALL the public can find out from a vehicle registration number is current mot & tax status. The police on the other hand find out everything about the public on a day to day basis by doing the very same.

[@topcat1358]

T - That pees me off too. Auditors shouldn't be shy about the issue and should say, "OF COURSE I'M FILMING YOUR REG PLATES! - I intend to check them all the Government DVLA website to ensure they are taxed and MOT'd"

[@tman5634]

@@topcat1358 Exactly & I do that. I'm auditing but not putting it on YT. I tell the police Exactly what I'm doing & why. I say to them that they've nothing to fear if the keep to the law of what they expect the general public to do, yet if they don't they'll be treated just the same as the general public. They're NOT above the law. I might start sharing it on YT, the issue I have is that I'm time short to answer comments...of which ideally I'd like to. All the best to you & all.

[@awhisperinthewind4253]

just curious , do the cops have 'conversations' like that when with family or 'friends', or is the passive interrogations just reserved for members of the public?

[@byMRTNjournals]

Can't teach an old dog new tricks. The word that comes to my Scottish mind is sh*tec*nt Kudos to the young lad. I think you should have bigged him up more than you did. At one point you could see he just felt awkward for the 1st guy.

[@haydoncooper3744]

When a copper asks you if you want to leave with them…..we no.

[@66Pipes66]

I will never understand why an assumedly intelligent,grown man would make a complete fool of himself like this. His ego is out of control, he hasn’t got the wherewithal about him to even pretend to be a decent guy, knowing it’s obviously an audit. His colleagues will rightly rip the piss out of him for this and I hope his seniors have a word with him. Earning the hate for good cops, well done fool.

[@ShirleyT-Keela]

Wow, that first officer was like a dog with a bone. He strutted around with his ego for about 15/20 minutes and achieved absolutely nothing!!🙄 Kudos to the plain clothes cop, nice n polite, bet he loves a bit of YT. Grt job TLA. PINAC 💙 💙

[@thelaughingauditor]

Well said

[@esecallum]

all those cops with criminal records...

[@redtop9413]

Well done mate you kept your cool he was trying to wind you up to swear sec 5 etc, well done.

[@guy4469]

all you can get from a rgistration is TAX MOT and INSURANCE , Unless you go to a police van parked up and give them £40 then you can get an address.

[@thelaughingauditor]

only £40 seems a bargain lol

[@guy4469]

@@thelaughingauditor i went too a policed van in salford i gave them an envolope with a reg on it.Then ten minutes i went back got my envelope back.all done.

[@A2Z1Two3]

@@guy4469 It’s one of the most frequent things police are disciplined for , accessing databases they should not be .

[@A2Z1Two3]

That aggressive officer is a ‘trained observer’ but could not remember what was said minutes earlier, how much confidence can anyone have in ANY evidence he gives in a court. ( If you have gone down in court because of that first officers evidence , use this video as part of the appeal . He is an ‘unreliable witness’ )

[@A2Z1Two3]

If they follow you and stop you it’s retaliatory😮

[@svenpoletka5236]

What a nasty attitude that officer has! We would be better off without his services.

[@lumo7461]

FOIA his discerplinary record on the first copper.

[@blobrana8515]

The clown was clueless.

[@turnoffccgooglepleasedawso7406]

That cops so pretentious..

[@humblequest7905]

Pretty exemplary approach from the last officer. He knows what time of day it is 👍🏼

[@db67889]

That copper looked like he had half of a braincell until he opened his mouth. 😂

[@mickkeen2764]

The Ego is strong in this one lol He can't let it go, I can hear the cogs turning in his head trying to find anything to go hands on so he can get your I.D and teach you a lesson lol

[@drpacman9996]

My favourite bit of audits is the last awkward moments where they don’t want to walk away, it’s like you walk away first then I’ll walk away, it kills them to have to do the walk of shame

[@seymourbutts9364]

What can I add to what has already been said, best audit of 2023 so far. Thanks to P.C. propeller arms......Subbed

[@thelaughingauditor]

You humble me sir

[@robertcharlton4277]

Cop number 1 completely arrogant with a real know all attitude, made a complete arse of himself. The younger cop new the score you could see it with the smile on his face, surprised he didn't know how to find you on u tube. Cop 2 was borderline had he been on his own he may have been worse than he was. Never ceases to amaze me how they take the bait and assume the public don't know their rights. Certainly wiser myself after watching your interactions ! Keep up the good work

[@fredbear9073]

First question of someone with common sense is the person doing something legal? Answer is yes, then walk away. If no, then ask questions. Conclusion the the officer has had the lobotomy for common sense. Just my opinion

[@jamiesymons3407]

Great audit ! Thankyou!

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

There’s me thinking Essex Police we’re improving, shame. Great video bud

[@esecallum]

you needed to get your leg over him and browbeat him down to make him see the error of his tyranny. moving away was wrong. you needed to ask why he was wasting police resources harassing you. why police are sitting in their offices all day on twitter/facebook for hate crime and not doing proper work. why he has not stopped grooming gangs. illegal migrants, why he not arresting burglers..and car thieves. ask questions like that next time. why are you why why why why.

[@robertovers1863]

i have asked tla to up his game, he is very good and the g4s mob are like fish in a small barrel

[@seymourbutts9364]

So just how many audits is it now that you have done....Oh yea zero.

[@robertovers1863]

@@seymourbutts9364 I don’t get paid to do audits but he does I just offered a tiny bit of advice that no one is forced to read or listen to So calm down

[@oneball783]

At 08:20 "Have you got all your filming you require? Ok I'm going to wait here until you have!" Ok Mr Officer I was only going to be 10mins but now it's probably going to take me .2hrs

[@alansharman3644]

Not just tax from your salary. A BIG chunk of council tax as well. Double dipping the public purse for this kind of woeful service.

[@pauldowling9167]

That fool cop waving hands about needs to stop drinking red bull and calm down.

[@OMOLvideos]

What a complete tool the first cop was. He just had to let his ego get the better of him. Maybe the police is not the job for him, or fishing come to that. bet he went home and took it out of his goldfish

[@JackMcLeodJr]

I get why they want to know what a man with a covered face and a camera is up to because they are indoctrinated to think suspiciously about everything (I'm not condoning that - I disagree with that mentality completely) however it is when they start spinning lines and putting words in people's mouths that does my head in. They don't seem to want to follow or acknowledge the basic law they are supposed to uphold, and a lot of them always push their luck constantly. The inflated ego syndrome never ceases to amaze me.

[@proper1254]

Why do police officers keep embarrassing themselves and the force 🤔 1 guy is in plain clothes with police written on those very same clothes 🤦‍♂️

[@pyracantha5548]

I hope that first one becomes as much of a laughing stock within the force as he is outside of it. The young lad gives us a glimmer of hope. Thumbs up to him.

[@tonyharley5230]

That smile from the young polite PC. 😊 "Has it been a good one" 😂

[@matt.bpersy8005]

The old "what you have to understand"

[@dahdidah8553]

I wonder in these type of interactions if the Constables actually complete Stop And Account paperwork.... because they should be! Perhaps auditors should ask them for it? The second they ask "what are you doing" etc. it is not 'a conversation' it is a Stop And Account.

[@ianhill4585]

Of which you don't have to do either, stop or account, " Can we have a chat"? "No thanks" ----- is all you need. When they're pushy,that's when the noise cancelling head phones,or ear defenders come on.

[@iansmith1217]

First cop OMG

[@eveeve9758]

How do the police have so many available officers to spend time with this fella and not enough to protect a group of women at speaker’s corner?

[@thatkurdy]

There is no privacy in public whatever your job is. Unfortunately that’s the law. You can’t stop someone videoing or taking pictures if there is public access.

[@thelaughingauditor]

Exactly but for some reason they can't handle it

[@johnmoody2424]

This is the reason people hate the police that officer should be sacked.

[@ianhenderson2122]

First one wont even call him an officer ,wat a MUPPET 🤣🤣🤣 WELL DONE LAUGHING AUDITOR 👏👏👏👏

[@topcat1358]

Great Audit TLA - You get better all the time. (I;m still a bit puzzled about the "Laughing" in your name - It is amusing and entertaining, but you don't laff much?)

[@thelaughingauditor]

I know but i do always get the last laugh

[@marktansey3669]

New subscriber & fellow Scot,Excellent audit & you put him in his place.

[@thelaughingauditor]

Thanks Mark I appreciate it mate

[@albertreynolds9287]

Great audit from fellow Scots

[@ramalama9650]

He calmed right down when he found out he was going to be online. What a 8e77end! The young officer found it amusing too. I reckon in that station the tyrant is a not liked at all!

[@ninianmacmillan-keith7435]

What utter muppetry !!! Please please give them more TRAINING

[@elliottdefoe9615]

That fool was well & truly humbled!

[@SavingsMinusDebt]

I enjoy watching these from the U.S. I have to Google all the U.K slang words. 😂😂

[@bernieyott5788]

Oh, dear?... He's gonna be the laughing stock of the police canteen, later!...(And they WILL snigger, and take the p***) You can be sure of that!.. He proved himself to be a complete idiot, in front of two 'careful of how they behaved' young constables. And that will be a great source of hilarity, back at the nick...Those young lads were already grinning between themselves, when you were telling that fella he conducted himself badly. They knew. He's gonna walk into a room later, and know that they're all laughing about what he did. Well done to you Sir.

[@laura-annkelly9915]

Great video as usual.I love all your videos since I started watching you 3wks ago

[@spandangle334]

Should be called fishing for fools lol ... or ego fishing 🤣 throw the bait out and wait for the bites 🤣

[@gregg.d]

You could see how frustrated that cop was when he ran out of script.

[@ThunderChunky101]

Always with the "personal cars" 😂

[@judithmatthews8460]

A foolish officer A real plonker. making a fool of himself He is probably going to read the comments but he is such a self satisfied egotist that he will think he behaved well. He has no awareness of the need for accountability or treating everyone with respect. His self satisfied opinion of others are not required on duty.

[@oliamit]

Probably knocking a probation officer off.T.I.C.

[@shookoneldn300]

Officer; How do I find the video on KZbin!? Search for jack ass.. you will find it… 🤣🤣🤣

[@MollyRuiz733]

You are the best auditor in the UK by far the best !

[@Woody10UK]

Loves to talk with his hands 🙌🏽 watch his hands! 🤣😂

[@topcat1358]

It was a great vid for you and the young cop - Not so much for the RShole!....LOL and PINAC

[@kingalf4828]

the young coppers face.smirking at his plonker elders.. delightful lol