Lair of Darkness Rulings - Questions Answered

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@TeamAPS
@TeamAPS 6 жыл бұрын
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@nearn8517
@nearn8517 6 жыл бұрын
Team APS The Ruling Zone is to thank tbh
@MrSamthefan
@MrSamthefan 6 жыл бұрын
He's genuinely doing a better job than Konami, so maybe he should just get hired by them!
@fearmkultra445
@fearmkultra445 6 жыл бұрын
Team APS are you black
@Angelezflip
@Angelezflip 6 жыл бұрын
Team APS ikr Sam from team samurai can learn a lot from him honestly
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, they are for the past few rulings. However, this one is not from ruling zone as when I asked a while ago, no one gave me any answers because the cards weren't even out. :(.
@ahero3945
@ahero3945 6 жыл бұрын
Cost is technically the fastest speed, even over counter lol
@MaxLoafin
@MaxLoafin 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. Like being able to remove your opponent's monsters AS COST for your effects is pretty impressive. Even if the effect doesn't go through or gets negated, your opponent still loses a monster. Thank god I bought that infernoid shit a few months back
@ullinnofthesouth10
@ullinnofthesouth10 6 жыл бұрын
Yo does Kuribandit work like Lilith? The tribute is cost because I see a semi colon.
@ClovissenpaiDotR
@ClovissenpaiDotR 6 жыл бұрын
Spell Speed infinite
@allblazing1160
@allblazing1160 6 жыл бұрын
Wait so here's a question what if you can't fufill the requirements for the effect do you still pay cost
@peadarmckinney3954
@peadarmckinney3954 3 жыл бұрын
But if a trap can tribute via cost for its affect why can’t the spell in the same way? They are both paying cost arnt they?
@coryn7031
@coryn7031 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot less of a scrub lately. Must be all the MST.TV I watch. Godspeed on the set analysis endeavor. Your reviews are always the best, plus ultra!
@trexdrew
@trexdrew 6 жыл бұрын
Literally saw a terrible ruling thread in Zodiac on break at work and thought “Tombox needs to make a rulings video on this please god” *looks in subs* Ayyyyyyyyyye got my wish
@francisbartoszewski5504
@francisbartoszewski5504 6 жыл бұрын
I had a guy yesturday on dueling book try to argue with me that they could chain majesty maider to my lilith to search master peace despite me saying that the maiden was tributed as cost
@Goblin_Hands
@Goblin_Hands 6 жыл бұрын
The other day, I had trouble explaining that Legendary Maju Garzett and Destiny Hero Plasma can't tribute an opponent's monster but Duke Shade can (similar to a Kaiju more or less), much like the Virus cards as well as Lilith, Ahrima, and Darkest Diabolos. Although all of the above cards rely on costs, I believe the former doesn't work because their effect is more of a "Summon" effect (requirement to summon, kinda like a condition ala Lava Golem/Ra Sphere Mode), rather than an "Ignition" effect, and Duke Shade certainly is an Ignition Effect. So, I guess the Virus cards are more like monster Ignition effects and vice versa in regards to Lair of Darkness.
@shion126
@shion126 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks that really helped a lot, i found this video while searching for a deck profile and i'm really glad. I was not sure why everyone says that the negated Lillith can still tritube cards but now i get it, it is easy to understand but I never used that effects so this video helped a lot thanks this video is worth a like.
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
U are welcomr
@darkcatapulter
@darkcatapulter 6 жыл бұрын
Really nice video! It would be nice if you also explained the summoning effect of Darkest Diablos depending on if he is in the Hand or the GY. The card text mentions in paranthesis: From the GY: "(if it was there when it was tributed)" From the Hand: "(even if not)" I believe that a lot of new players do not understand the last one from the Hand. This would be good to let players know that they can actually both search and special summon Diablos from the hand through the effect of Ahrima depending on the tribute used for Ahrima's effect.
@douglasadao8254
@douglasadao8254 2 жыл бұрын
Finally ! That was a pretty decent explanation about the negated lilith! I was loooking for that explanation all over the internet lol. Also found out my mate/rival was cheatting about special summoning his diablos by tributing MY monsters! I am subscribed as of right now ! Great content bro! Greettings from Brazil 😁
@sccattter8395
@sccattter8395 6 жыл бұрын
Love it, u awnserd my question spot on, you are an amazing KZbinr
@Jam1TCG
@Jam1TCG 6 жыл бұрын
I Toadally love your set analysis Tom! I look forward to them it's how I found your channel. But yeah thanks for this video very helpful for a lot of people. Keep it up!
@Goblin_Hands
@Goblin_Hands 6 жыл бұрын
The other day, I had trouble explaining that Legendary Maju Garzett and Destiny Hero Plasma can't tribute an opponent's monster but Duke Shade can (similar to a Kaiju more or less), much like the Virus cards as well as Lilith, Ahrima, and Darkest Diabolos. Although all of the above cards rely on costs, I believe the former doesn't work because their effect is more of a "Summon" effect (requirement to summon, kinda like a condition ala Lava Golem/Ra Sphere Mode), rather than an "Ignition" effect, and Duke Shade certainly is an Ignition Effect. So, I guess the Virus cards are more like monster Ignition effects and vice versa in regards to Lair of Darkness.
@Darklynx00
@Darklynx00 6 жыл бұрын
Please i have another urgent ruling question: if i activate the first effect of Ahrima and i tribute itself and i draw 1 card, if the card i drew is Diabolos,can i special summon it?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Darklynx00
@Darklynx00 6 жыл бұрын
MST.TV thanks man. You’re great. I’ll subscribe immediatly
@tyvode_official
@tyvode_official 5 жыл бұрын
1. Can I tribute a monster my opponent controls, even if I do not control any monsters? Would be nice if you could explain this further. 2. Do I have to tribute a monster my opponent controls at first every turn, before I am able to tribute my own monster? I'm asking because there is an if-clause and not a when-clause.
@sagumosageyo943
@sagumosageyo943 5 жыл бұрын
Nah it's a "you can" so your good
@ApollosFury81
@ApollosFury81 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, I am confused about the whole Lilith negation ruling. Can anyone explain more? 😕
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
When you activate an effect you pay cost first. Lilith's cost is to tribute a dark monster. When a monster is negated, it does not prevent you from activating their effects. The resolution will be negated, but you can still activate. When you activate, you ALWAYS pay cost.
@ApollosFury81
@ApollosFury81 6 жыл бұрын
MST.TV Thanks man, that helps clear things up. Appreciate the quick response!
@tossapixeltoyournoelle
@tossapixeltoyournoelle 6 жыл бұрын
I know this has nothing to do with lair of darkness structure deck but while we were talking about immunity, if master peace or incarnate is on the field (master peace immune to spells) can use them for a fusion summon with super poly or the shaddoll field spell's effect?
@timjanik3464
@timjanik3464 6 жыл бұрын
hey guys i have a another question when i search diabolos with ahrima by tributing a monster i control can i specialsummon diabolos immediately from my hand?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
Tim Janik You can.
@damiengemini5140
@damiengemini5140 6 жыл бұрын
Does lair of darkness activate if you use its effect to tribute ur opponents monster?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
no
@Pronxno
@Pronxno 6 жыл бұрын
Big thank you, Mate. You helped me a lot!
@murdizphanthom9180
@murdizphanthom9180 6 жыл бұрын
I actually missed a part about using Lair for things such as Ritual summons. Which you can't use and Diabolos doesn't trigger from a Ritual tribute either. Just something I wanted to see added tbh.
@benjamincook7443
@benjamincook7443 6 жыл бұрын
That second question answer hitting me like "OHHHH YES!
@yololivesonce
@yololivesonce 6 жыл бұрын
Question. If I use the effect of Ahrima and tribute a monster I control to add Diabolos from my deck to hand, can I then special summon Diabolos since his effect says he doesn’t have to originally be in the hand to summon it?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
YoloLivesOnce You can. Another example: Adding Astrograph to hand with Electrumites effect (the "even if not" isn't necessary).
@amknight7085
@amknight7085 6 жыл бұрын
I have a serious question. I know most people probably dont know the card „Double magical arm bind“. it allows you to take control of 2 of your opponents monsters by tributing 2 monsters yourself. So my question is if I have the lair of darkness and lilith on my field and my opponent has 3 monsters, can I activate „Double magical arm bind“ to tribute lilith, 1 of my opponents monsters and take control of his other 2 monsters for the rest of my turn?
@just-in-time7809
@just-in-time7809 5 жыл бұрын
Can I summon my diabolos if I tribute my Opponents Monster, even if it says u need to tribute your own monster?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 5 жыл бұрын
You cannot
@mechanicalhelios8321
@mechanicalhelios8321 6 жыл бұрын
wait im confused, so for the 2nd question regarding lilith and the tributing via her effect, i can pay the cost of the effect by tributing the enemy's monster but i can't set the trap cards???
@grahamrussell2628
@grahamrussell2628 6 жыл бұрын
Lair of darkness "you can tribute one dark monster your opponent controls as if you controlled it". In this card test tributing a card your opponent controls allows you to special summon your darkest diabolos.
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
This is not the official translation.
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
I suggest u read the actual card text it does not say that. It says "..., even though you do not control it"
@mosesm16
@mosesm16 6 жыл бұрын
Hey if I use Lair of Darkness to Tribute a monster on my opponent's side of the field for my darkest diabolus effect but they have no cards in their hand to put on the top or bottom of their deck can their monster still be tributed
@peadarmckinney3954
@peadarmckinney3954 3 жыл бұрын
Yea because you pay the cost (thier monster) to activate the affect, it’s not relevant IF the affect occurs or not to the monster that has been tributed. They are separate sinarios
@BlueSage19
@BlueSage19 6 жыл бұрын
Let's say the opponent is trying to summon great Maju Garzett. Can they only use one of your monsters as tribute for it or do they use all monsters you control? I've had someone say that they can use all of my monsters for Garzetts summon, although Lod only allows one of the opponents monsters to be tributed per turn.
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Are u talking about Legendary Maju Garzett?.. that card does NOT have a cost. Summoning condition Does NOT mean cost. It doesn't activate, therefore it doesn't meet the effect condition of Lair of Darkness.
@BZgA
@BZgA 6 жыл бұрын
I have a question: when I use a virus which states 'tribute one monster with 2000 atk' and I have lair on the field and want to tribute an opponents monster, does both his and mine monster need to have over 2000 atk so the cost is correct?
@Babydragon48
@Babydragon48 5 жыл бұрын
If my opponent has Lilith and lair on the field and I summon a monster whose effect activates when summoned, for example “elemental hero stratos,” and Lilith tributes the stratos... will stratos still be able to activate its effect to add a hero/ or destroy spell traps on field??
@ADHDnD13
@ADHDnD13 6 жыл бұрын
the logic behind spell-immune monsters doesnt make sense. Stormforth and Lair should be affecting the players. The player is allowed a larger pool of monsters which qualify as proper tribute targets. The effects of those spell cards are not tributing the monsters. "You can tribute" is the key language that specifices the player is affected. as opposed to "tribute one monster" type language that a card affecting a monster would have
@sirernest546
@sirernest546 6 жыл бұрын
Rurouni137 yeah some of these rulings with "being unaffected" are a bit unclear by wording, i.e. creature swap won't work if your opponent only controls spell immune Master Peace despite the wording Making it sound like it should work.
@KazumaSoma
@KazumaSoma 6 жыл бұрын
i think thats is wrong, because creatur swap dont target, the play choose which monster he swap. so i think he can swap his spell imune monster.
@peadarmckinney3954
@peadarmckinney3954 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain why the trap immune card can be tributed by cost but not spell immune ? Shouldn’t the trap be unable to find the monster in the same way?
@meandyourgfdidthedeed1093
@meandyourgfdidthedeed1093 6 жыл бұрын
If I tribute my opponent's monster (via LoD), is that an activated effect? Like, can my opponent Ghost Ogre it? It says, "Once per turn, you can..." So I would think yes, since that is how Diagram also reads. I'm just not sure. If so, would that stop my Virus from resolving? I wouldnt think so since the cost was paid. Does the fact that it alters the cost make ghost ogre miss timing? I think the fact that field spells are continuous makes LoD a much more complicated card than Stormforth and, as such, needs to be ruled as its own card and not using old rulings from before we could choose simultaneous resolution order.
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
"is that an activated effect?" No, because the text lacks a colon or semicolon. Not just the wording but also the punctuation is important. You can Ogre the mandatory Token effect in the End Phase though. "If so, would that stop my Virus from resolving?" Hypothetically assuming the effect would read: "Once per turn: You can(...)", it wouldn't make much sense. If it would be an Ignition effect it would make further clarification like how long the effect lasts after activation, e.g. "until the end of this turn". If it would be a Trigger effect it would have more activation conditions like "Once turn, if you would tribute a monster(s)(...): (...)"
@meandyourgfdidthedeed1093
@meandyourgfdidthedeed1093 6 жыл бұрын
Jannis thank you.
@joshsmedia2
@joshsmedia2 5 жыл бұрын
When the player using "Lair of darkness" chooses to tribute my monster, is he activating the effect? so for example can Shi-en stop and destroy "Lair of Darkness" if he targeted another monster to tribute? or can Shi en only stop it when he plays the field spell? I am unsure when the effect is activated with field cards, is it when it is played or when they use the effects on the card? Any info would be great! Thank you
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 5 жыл бұрын
Shien can stop Lair when he plays it on the field, Shi-En cannot stop it after it is already active. 1. Lair applies a continuous effect that opens options to the player for the monsters that are affected. (no further activation required for Lair) 2. Player using lair can Tribute your Shi-En during activation, removing him from the field entirely before the chain even resolves (use him for cost), so Shien is essentially worthless or worst yet, used to trigger Epidemic virus. 3. Lair of Darkness Only activates further when summoning tokens.
@joshsmedia2
@joshsmedia2 5 жыл бұрын
@@MSTTV Thank you so much!
@SoldierMetal1
@SoldierMetal1 4 жыл бұрын
i can activate the second effect of diabolos(You can Tribute 1 DARK monster; your opponent places 1 card from their hand on either the top or bottom of their Deck.) if my oponent dont have cards in their hand?
@jober1905
@jober1905 6 жыл бұрын
A question I have for my friend is, does ningirsu the world chalice warrior's second effect count as tributing a monster for an effect? If so you can just destroy 2 of your opponents monsters...
@brianbattcock3844
@brianbattcock3844 4 жыл бұрын
How would Malice, lady of Lament work? Since lair only allows one tribute, once per turn, could I then tribute one of my own monsters? Alsooo sweet hoodie where you get it
@xXxDarkProphecyxXx
@xXxDarkProphecyxXx 6 жыл бұрын
Quick question. If my opponent controls a dark monster and I summon either lilith or ahrima. can I use their effect to tribute my oppents dark monster without the lair of darkness field spell?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
No. Without lair that is not an option. Lair gives you that ability. Not your monsters. That's almost like saying: Can I equip an abc monster from my deck to my monster without union Hangar being on the field.
@ConsolesOnlyGaming
@ConsolesOnlyGaming 6 жыл бұрын
If I have Lair of Darkness active, can I tribute my opponents face up monster for Full Force Virus or Eradicator? (assuming they have the correct atk/def of course). Not sure if the Tribute you do is a cost or part of the Virus effect. Anyone clarify?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
MightyMorphin88 It's a cost (before the semicolon).
@KazumaSoma
@KazumaSoma 6 жыл бұрын
i have a question, if a tribute a enemies monster with litlith and lair of darkness, i can special summon darkest diabolos? i understand thats right?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
Kazuma Soma Diabolos specifies a monster you control.
@agent_red108
@agent_red108 11 ай бұрын
Is it possible to use cannon soldier in the deck like to trigger diabolos effect?
@thedemouralizer8140
@thedemouralizer8140 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is late but I have a question that I cant seem to find anywhere. Can you use Lair of Darkness in order to simply tribute summon a monster. For example to summon Beast King Barbaros, you need to tribute 3 monsters, can you use 1 of your opponents monsters and 2 of yours?
@jaheempatterson5051
@jaheempatterson5051 3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@danielortega5088
@danielortega5088 6 жыл бұрын
What if a hieratic (which is a light monster) is tributed on the field while being affected by lair of darkness, do I get to summon diabolos? Or does it “check” the atribute of the monster tributed when it is on the grave rather than on the field?
@BSChronicles
@BSChronicles 6 жыл бұрын
The part about tributing your opponents monster, does this apply to the card owner only or can your opponent do this to you as well?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Just the owner
@barumunkgameslel509
@barumunkgameslel509 6 жыл бұрын
can you please says if the ritual spell tribute can tribute opponent monster if field is activated?? please im really confused.
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
No, it's not a cost.
@ToaEnemis
@ToaEnemis 6 жыл бұрын
My question is can you still activate the tribute effect of lilith if there aren't 3 traps left in your deck to search out? Same goes for Diabolos, if my opponent has no cards in his hand, can I still activate his effect to get the cost off. Does it not allow me to activate at all? Or do I get to activate it and get the cost off even if the card effect can't resolve, sort of like the Lillith and tour guide combo?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
You can't activate effects you won't be able to resolve. So you can't in both cases.
@thomasshady6470
@thomasshady6470 4 жыл бұрын
Hi please I need help : Do I need to have monsters on my field before using lair of darkness to tribute my opponent's ones, or not ? Thank you and great video mate ! 👍
@peadarmckinney3954
@peadarmckinney3954 3 жыл бұрын
You need to activate an effect that tributes a monster to use lair so if you have a virus trap card that tributes a monster you can use that so no you don’t need a monster, just an effect 👌 hope this helped 🤞
@ethanumstead2821
@ethanumstead2821 6 жыл бұрын
Could you use Lair to tribute an opponent's monster for the cost of a Dinomist card (even though they specify "a Dinomist monster")?
@evan51298
@evan51298 5 жыл бұрын
When using "ahrima's" effect to tribute another a monster that you control, does it summon "darkest diabolos" when you draw it? I try on ygopro and it works. Just wanna verify with your take?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it does, triggers activate in a new chain and an "if" trigger won't miss the timing.
@Rintohsa
@Rintohsa 6 жыл бұрын
Off topic question, where did you record your video? Or is it a green screen? Its been bugging me while watching lol, btw just earned my subscribe, great video!
@duskknight8413
@duskknight8413 6 жыл бұрын
Question have you done a video on Black meteor comet dragon about it effects does it miss time when you use it for Any summoning mechanic or no ?
@FrostbyteEXE
@FrostbyteEXE 6 жыл бұрын
I have a question, regarding Lair of Darkness. It's something that has been bugging me for the longest, because of the wording on the card. "Once per turn, if you would Tribute a monster you control to activate a card effect, you can Tribute 1 DARK monster your opponent controls, even though you do not control it." Are you required to control a monster yourself, as a condition, to be able to Tribute your opponent's? Example: Lair of Darkness and Crush Card is my field. No monsters, no tokens. Opponent has Sangan. Based on wording, am I required to have a monster that can fulfill the conditions of Crush Card in my control, before I am allowed to Tribute the opposing Sangan?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
You don't need a monster
@djordjemarinkovic
@djordjemarinkovic 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. It says 'if you would tribute a monster you control to activate a card effect...' So the first condition is for you to have a monster. Say you activate some effect for tributing a monster, you would first have to target one of your own monsters, then with lair of darkness you would be redirecting the tribute towards one of your opponent's monsters. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it is necessary for you to have a monster first.
@100Cruzi100
@100Cruzi100 6 жыл бұрын
@@djordjemarinkovic does anyone know the answer to this?
@kevinsear9822
@kevinsear9822 6 жыл бұрын
So I know if I have Ahrima and use its effect to search for diabolos, I can special summon it right away but what if, by tributing an opponents monster with the effect of lair, am I still able to special summon diabolos right away?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
No, your monster didn't get tributed
@CosmicStar96
@CosmicStar96 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use Hieratic Sun Dragon Overlord of Heliopolis effect with lair and tribute your opponents monsters and if you do can you tribute more than one? Sorry for asking so late.
@fireice8828
@fireice8828 6 жыл бұрын
Three things: does recurring nightmare only work if you have two cards to return from the graveyard, does hand destruction only work if you and your opponent have two cards to discard, and does mask of restrict completely screw everything over
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, to activate Yes, And yes
@fireice8828
@fireice8828 6 жыл бұрын
MST.TV Thanks for the quick reply! I’ve been wondering about those for a while
@dazeplayz1487
@dazeplayz1487 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, so if a card has a specific tribute requirement, like a virus, where it requires a monster with a specific amount of attack/defense to be tributed for its effect, does Lair of Darkness cover this? Can I just tribute any one of my opponent's dark monsters to get a free virus or do they have to fit the requirement too?
@lootwaffles
@lootwaffles 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it must fit the conditions of the virus
@siswondopranoto8971
@siswondopranoto8971 6 жыл бұрын
I got confused with the field spell ruling. Since Lair of darkness is a field spell card and affect both players. If let say in the opponent turn, your opponent has enemy controller in his hand, can he activate it by tributing my dark monster? My opponent also can use the Lair of darkness effect even it is my field spell card?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Field spells do not necessarily let both players use it. It specifically states YOU can, and NoT the turn player. For field spells that affect both players they have specific wording like Mausoleum of the Emperor and chicken game.
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
So no your opponent cannot use it.
@thepoweroftheweed2215
@thepoweroftheweed2215 3 жыл бұрын
I have two questions: Can i tribute my opponent monsters with Yubel? Yugipedia says it is a trigger effect, (which can be negated by skill drain btw) so i think it would work If i tribute my opponent's Red Eyes Dragoon with Lilith, can the Dragoon stop the effect from resolving? The question counts for all monsters that can negate an activation
@thepoweroftheweed2215
@thepoweroftheweed2215 3 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, you answered at the part with Vortex dragon, but the Yubel part is still something i don't understand
@Prismiric
@Prismiric 5 жыл бұрын
I have a very specific ruling question. If Darkest Diabolos, Lord of the Lair and Lair of Darkness are active at the same time. Can Diabolos' secondary effect happen on my turn? Effectively tributing my card on my turn.
@dynastywarriorlord07
@dynastywarriorlord07 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Can you summon diabolos or can you make your opponent put cards from their hand into the deck?
@Darklynx00
@Darklynx00 6 жыл бұрын
Hi,i have a question: when i activate Lilith’s effect... does the opponent’s see which card has been chosen? Or he can only see the 3 cards but he doesn’t see which card is then set? Thanks
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
They do not see the set
@Darklynx00
@Darklynx00 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Are you really sure? Because in the card doesn’t says it. it only says “random” but not “face down”
@EricTask
@EricTask 5 жыл бұрын
If I have Darkest Diabolos, Lord of the Lair on the field and one in the graveyard, can I sacrifice the one on the field to have my opponent get rid of a card out of their hand, special summon the one in the graveyard, and then do it again with the new monster since it was a new monster? Why or why not? Thank you so much for helping us better understand how things work :)
@Lonewz96
@Lonewz96 6 жыл бұрын
Since lair of darkness makes all monsters on the field dark, can you use starving venom dragon to contact fusion with?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
Contact fusions have nothing to do with tributing.
@Harmonic14
@Harmonic14 6 жыл бұрын
Jannis have you even read the summoning condition of Supreme King Dragon Starving Venom...?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
David Hoch I didn't because I didn't need to. Tributing for a summoning condition can't be tributing to activate a card effect, which is the requirement of Lair of Darkness. This (particular) contact fusion is done by tributing, still doesn't matter for Lair of Darkness. Edit: I admit that my answer could have been more precise.
@davidceballos788
@davidceballos788 5 жыл бұрын
You can use super poly :D
@mr.nekrogrape1367
@mr.nekrogrape1367 6 жыл бұрын
So just to be clear,an aria and elegy lock are vulnerable to being tributed correct?
@feddrostarr9522
@feddrostarr9522 6 жыл бұрын
Would this deck fuse well with infernoids,using only three lair spells,3 ahrima,1diablos,1lilth because of infernoids second effect that you can tribute a monster you control and banish a monster from your opp gy and how can I tribute my opponents monster
@intoexileimustgofailedihav2261
@intoexileimustgofailedihav2261 6 жыл бұрын
So to clear something up if I tribute a HERO monster can they respond with mask change?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
The monster is tributed before he can respond to the activation.
@zemanarab
@zemanarab 6 жыл бұрын
Can i tribute my opponents monster for the effect of doom caliber knight even tho it says to tribute itself.
@galianb1222
@galianb1222 5 жыл бұрын
"Tribute this face up card" meaning doomcaliber knight has to himself in order to negate a monster effect.
@lulupandagirl2995
@lulupandagirl2995 6 жыл бұрын
But yeah I have a question about Diablos effect 2. Who decides where your opponent puts the card?
@shion126
@shion126 6 жыл бұрын
I have a question about allure of darkness. I have heared you can activate this card even with no cards in your hand but that would be a free plus 1 so there must be a drawback to it, so my question is: Is there a drawback and if yes what kind of drawback is it? Is it like you have to discard the cards you draw or can you keep them?
@Shadowchase22
@Shadowchase22 6 жыл бұрын
Shadow Sniper you have to banish a dark monster, if yoh dont you sens your hand to the grave
@beastyfamilia4995
@beastyfamilia4995 5 жыл бұрын
dont know if I missed it but inspector boarder vs lair noids? can you tribute inspector while lair is up?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 5 жыл бұрын
U didn't miss it, lair existed for that card came out. They can only tribute using their monster effect if they have a monster type available. But if they have traps and other spells that tribute sure they can.
@beastyfamilia4995
@beastyfamilia4995 5 жыл бұрын
@@MSTTV so they can tribute to banish a monster out of their graveyard while hes up on the field?
@BionicReaper
@BionicReaper 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think that has to work that way. The legendary exodia incarnate must be tribute-able. If it wasnt so then why does Evenly Matched allow you to banish trap immune monsters. Both apply to a player.
@kneji
@kneji 5 жыл бұрын
Do the Koa'ki Meiru rocks let you tribute your opponents monsters to negate their cards under Lair (you have to tribute itself to negate, can you tribute their cards as the cost)? 0:
@jamespredom6445
@jamespredom6445 6 жыл бұрын
If I use a card like mahad would his effect still go off when he battles a dark monster until the effects of lair of darkness?
@naqismith5688
@naqismith5688 6 жыл бұрын
If I want to use an effect that specifies a certain card name( like tribute one "X" monster) does lair of darkness get rid of that and just let me tribute any of my opponents monsters?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
No, u still have to tribute card X, if it is on the field on your opponent side then yes. If not then you can't.
@Zara0990
@Zara0990 6 жыл бұрын
Ok scenario: My opponent has Beatrice on field I have lair on field. I special summon infernoid seitsemas. Would I be able to tribute Beatrice on summon for seits ef before Beatrice can activate her effect? It was a dispute over prio. My opponent thought he can resp with Beatrice’s eff to seits summ but I said since I was turn player I can activate my eff first.
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Depends on whose turn it is... If you are the turn player summoning seitsemas... Since the summon does not start a chain, turn player has priority to activate the first quick effect in response to the summon before the opponent can, given there are no trigger effects on the field. So u can summon seit and using a quick effect of seitsemas to tribute off Beatrice before she can respond while lair is on field. If u have seitsemas on the field and your opponent makes Beatrice, your opponent can use Beatrice first before u can use seitsemas. The turn matters.
@SionDracul
@SionDracul 6 жыл бұрын
If royal decree is active can the owner of lair still tribute his opponents monsters for his virus cards? Im leaning towards yes then can would just like other input
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Tribute is fine
@jonnysteer7574
@jonnysteer7574 6 жыл бұрын
Can you tribute facedown monsters for lair of darkness shenanigans? Want to just check since monster isn’t summoned but it does say monsters opponent controls. Since it’s got to be dark monster then facedown aren’t anything because facedown.
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
When it is set, it's attribute is not public knowledge, therefore u don't have access to it. It has no public attribute at the time. So no Lair access.
@jonnysteer7574
@jonnysteer7574 6 жыл бұрын
Cool thanks so much for this informative video and reply. I argued the same point for opponent tributing my facedown card. They just got a couple mates to back them up that have been around awhile so I took their word for it :) Will definitely not allow it next time he tries :) Keep up the great work bro ;)
@CanalCrux
@CanalCrux 6 жыл бұрын
If I have a kycoo the ghost destroyer or Chaos Hunter, Infernoids still can tribute for cost ? Or because banishing is sealed, they can't even activate their second effect?
@Sp0okeh
@Sp0okeh 6 жыл бұрын
infernoids cannot attempt to activate since they cannot banish in the 1st place.
@TheGothGaming
@TheGothGaming 6 жыл бұрын
If lair of darkness is face up, Can I tribute an opponents monster even if I dont control any monsters?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
TheGothGaming You can.
@panosntop9502
@panosntop9502 6 жыл бұрын
Quick question guys..i just activated crush card virus and deatroyed all monsters my opponent had in his turn...can he activate monster reborn in his turn to bring a monster with atk>1500 in the same turn?
@theonlygt72
@theonlygt72 6 жыл бұрын
Can Darkest Diabolos' special summon effect be used during either players turn?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Nightken91
@Nightken91 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Mask of Restrict makes a return due to stuff like this or gets a price jump
@borrelfan_2932
@borrelfan_2932 6 жыл бұрын
Quick question, could I use Lair of Darkness to activate Raviel or Earthbound Immortal Uru's effect?
@thepoweroftheweed2215
@thepoweroftheweed2215 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are effects that activate
@bradkaminski7763
@bradkaminski7763 6 жыл бұрын
If I play Lair of Darkness and my opponent plays a field card like Umi, does it take priority over LoD? Or will it have no effect because their monsters are considered to be Dark?
@jackiejack901
@jackiejack901 6 жыл бұрын
does lair field end phase still trigger on ? even tho no tribute this turn like ogre end at end turn without tribute
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, you have to end phase activate, madatory effect. So yes, you can be ogred and popped.
@jabauokku6274
@jabauokku6274 6 жыл бұрын
What about decode talker? Can I tribute their monsters to use decodes effect while LOD is face up?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but Decode still has to point to it.
@FilipinoWarrior94
@FilipinoWarrior94 6 жыл бұрын
Since token summons are mandatory at EP, does lair of darkness activate during the EP therefore I could ghost ogre it?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
You can Ogre the Token effect.
@Ashura_Morgraine
@Ashura_Morgraine 6 жыл бұрын
I totally have a question I have had for a while If both players are using lair of darkness and one ends their turn with a Lilith on his board Now the next player summons a lilith who gets the priority to activate lilith's effect first? since just one of them would be able to activate, cause it will be tributting its opponent's lilith at cost?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Turn player priority
@garylasorella7997
@garylasorella7997 6 жыл бұрын
So what if the answer unaffected monster is originally a dark monster, will it still not be tributed or because its original type is dark is it susceptible to tributing effect
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
It's still uneffected by Lair.
@demonboyreturns
@demonboyreturns 6 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this video. friend tried saying his abc buster didnt have to be tributed cause he was chaining with quick effect. uh yeah, no. lol
@michelefumagalli81
@michelefumagalli81 6 жыл бұрын
But how the field spell works with true king of all calamities? For example if this xyz declares water attribute, and i have the field spell, the monsters on the field are dark or water?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
This isn't 100% accurate for me. But my current assumption is the last lingering spell/effect that changes attribute will take precedence... So everything would become Water, but if u put lair back on everything comes dark again. Try looking up 2 dna surgery or 2 dna transplant.
@antoniodominguez9914
@antoniodominguez9914 6 жыл бұрын
lilith cant tribute your opponents card on their turn right? only yours? someone lmk pls
@tiffanydalrymple9043
@tiffanydalrymple9043 6 жыл бұрын
Can both players use the tributing effect since it is a field spell and therefore it applies to the entire field?
@evan51298
@evan51298 5 жыл бұрын
No. Only the user of field card can usethe tribute effect.
@jakedernie3458
@jakedernie3458 6 жыл бұрын
Darkest Diabolos, Lord of the Lair is unaffected by card effects does this mean all spells and trap cards as well as monster effects, because I can't seem to beat a deck with 2-3 of them in if I don't stop lair of darkness as it comes out
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Diabolos isn't unaffected by card effects... Where did u read that?
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Diabolos can't be targeted by card effects.. so u can dark hole, jamming wave, steal it with borreload, monster reborn it out if ur opponent's graveyard.
@Shykar0
@Shykar0 6 жыл бұрын
But i think you're wrong with the diabolos summon, the field spell states "as if its one of urs" and that would confirm the conditions to s summon diabolos
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
Shykaro This is not the official translation. The card actually says "even though you don't control it".
@ttalha21
@ttalha21 6 жыл бұрын
dumb question from me, as example Eternal Soul is there can I tribute my enemies dark magician?
@QUIEROJUGARUNJUEGO
@QUIEROJUGARUNJUEGO 6 жыл бұрын
No, unnaffected monsters cannot be tributed by using lair of darkness
@NCOverion
@NCOverion 6 жыл бұрын
So i can also use the effect of « soldat canon » or « the colonie du mal ketos » to tribute a monstre from my opponent?
@RemingtinArms
@RemingtinArms 6 жыл бұрын
is barbaros' effect considered an effect cost or summon cost?
@rowdy9534
@rowdy9534 6 жыл бұрын
You may have said this in the video but I may have missed it, does effect Vailer negate lilith effect?
@jannis4387
@jannis4387 6 жыл бұрын
You can just chain Lilith to Veiler and the effect won't be negated. If Veiler negates Lilith effect though it can still be activated (and tribute for cost), but the search effect won't resolve.
@rowdy9534
@rowdy9534 6 жыл бұрын
Jannis thank you:)
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
1. If you use veiler vs Lilith as the first chain, your opponent can chain Lilith and tribute herself removing herself off the field before the resolution of veiler. 2. If Lilith activates tributes another monster, then you chain veiler and nothing else removals Lilith off the field, Lilith will be negated as the chain resolves. 3. Lilith tributes herself as Chain link 1. You can't use veiler on Lilith as she has already removed herself off the field by her own cost. Does that give you enough examples with work with.l?
@rowdy9534
@rowdy9534 6 жыл бұрын
MST.TV yes, thank you very much!:)
@TheJustymon
@TheJustymon 6 жыл бұрын
When using Lilith, is it a must to reveal 3 traps even if you no longer have 3 traps in your deck?
@evan51298
@evan51298 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. It is a must have at least 3. If you don't have it, you cannot ever apply the cost effect.
@joseyunespalomera4791
@joseyunespalomera4791 6 жыл бұрын
I hope you can help me, this is the situation, Legendary Maju Garzet & Lair of Darkness. I play in Yu-Gi-Oh pro and when I use Legendary eff, it tributes all my opponent monsters and all my monsters. But I don't know if that is a mistake.
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 6 жыл бұрын
If it does that then it is bugged, because that is incorrect, Legendary Maju Garzett doesn't have an activated effect that has a cost. It only has a summoning condition of tributing all your monsters and you cannot use Lair of Darkness for summoning conditions as it is not an effect, so It should not tribute your opponents monster at all.
@jclarkent3757
@jclarkent3757 6 жыл бұрын
So does mask change II not work With lair of darkness? I was really excited with the prospect of tributing my opponents monster to make a dark law.
@marth443
@marth443 6 жыл бұрын
Mask change II doesnt tribute, so no
@rock22987
@rock22987 6 жыл бұрын
J ClarKent You can't use it on thier monster but you can use it on the tokens you get from lair of darkness
@jclarkent3757
@jclarkent3757 6 жыл бұрын
marth443 um... read the card.
@macchi004
@macchi004 6 жыл бұрын
"Discard 1 card, then target 1 face-up monster you control that has a Level; send it to the Graveyard, also, after that, if it left the field by this effect, Special Summon from your Extra Deck, 1 "Masked HERO" monster with the same Attribute, but a higher Level than, the Attribute/Level the monster had when it was on the field (its original Attribute/Level, if face-down. This Special Summon is treated as a Special Summon with "Mask Change"). You can only activate 1 "Mask Change II" per turn." Mask Change II does not tribute. Sending a card you control to grave is not tributing. It's not the cost either, the cost is discarding.
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