Lake CX238 Wide Sizing Accuracy 💥HONEST REVIEW💥

Lake Cycling Shoes C238 Wide. Sizing accuracy and honest review.
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[@martinmartin400]

Very nice sir, been looking for a shimano vs lake size. Very helpful, so thank you from Sweden :)

[@realtimerides58]

Very helpful review. Thank you!

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Thanks for watching!

[@am7jeremy]

Sizing took me several tries as well. I'm a 47 in Shimano but 45.5 in Lake.

[@JohnnyRabbitQC]

I'm looking to buy new cycling shoes and did the tracing as per Lake instructions. It's funny because I got the same exact measurements an the same foot shape as you do. Thanks for the video!

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

That is awesome!

[@lakecycling]

Thank you for the honest review. One point that must be corrected is that the CX238 is not heat moldable. Only models that are recommended for heat molding are: CX403, CX332, MX332, CX241 & MX241 as only those models use our heat moldable carbon.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Sorry about that. My mistake. They’re still great shoes!

[@stevenmangini6808]

Awesome review. I just went through the same exercise and ended up with the exact same shoe as you. Was really hoping these would help with compressed metatarsal nerves. I have Morton's Neuroma and can't stand shoes that are too narrow in the toe box. Hope these help.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

They’ve helped me along with a metatarsal pad and good arch support that fits you well

[@evanchan7207]

planning to get cx238 thanks for your sharing i heard so many good things about their shoes

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

You should!

[@markjthomson]

I went through a few permutations of shoe and ended up using the guide and buying the 44 in the comfort last (shoe shape). It was just a little short, so the end of my toe touched the curve of the shoe... I later found I could out a front foot wedge in that corrected that issue (I needed the wedge anyway) so that has allowed me to use that shoe for casual distance. I purchased the 44.5 in the competition last - that was a winner. The competition last is wider again. Added the wedge to correct a minor foot issue (I ride SPD pedals, not SPD SL so typically inserts are the answer for forefoot wedges. They are a great shoe but the sizing is confusing.

[@matejburian3191]

Thank you very much for this video, I literally measure the same size as you 280/110 so I guess I know for what size to shoot for, Thanks once again

[@bruceritchie7613]

Great information, much appreciated. I have mornton's neuroma in one foot which sounds similar to what you have and the reason why I'm interested in lake shoes ... so tired of shoes that compress my toes because the toe box is too narrow.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Best of luck! So far, I've been very happy with them. I got mine via Competitive Cyclist and then tried them on...sent back what didn't fit. If you can go to a bike shop that sells them, even better. If you happen to go via Competitive Cyclist, tell em you found my channel. I'd love to be sponsored by them. It's my fantasy job. If you do, I'll let you outsprint me in the "Tour de Morton's Neuroma" where we're all disabled. Ha Ha.

[@UnivegaSuperSport]

Excellent, detailed review. At the risk of introducing confusion I will add my first-hand experience with Lake shoes. I now have sitting in front of me a pair of CX176 wide sz 44 and a pair of CX238 wide size 43.5. They are the EXACT same length. The 238 are indeed wider and roomier in the toe box. The CX176 will be returned. I have worn Lake MX238 or mx236 (can't remember the number) mtb shoes back in 2007-2014 for commuting. I have also worn CX402 wide back in 2013. Both were 43.5. Both fit the same as the CX238. I wear 43.5 EEEEE shoes due to what is known as a Tailor's bunion (look it up) at the outside base of the small toe where it forms the widest part of the foot. Way back in the Stone Age (1998) I would wear Carnac Legend shoes which were the widest and roomiest toe box shoes available. For the next 10 years, I'd have to scour ebay to find used pairs. When that source dried up, I was worried I'd have to shell out $600+ bucks for a pair of custom Revo shoes. By comparison, $300 for the Lake 238's doesn't seem that steep. I worked in several bike shops from 2007-2013 and tried to convince each one to carry Lake shoes. None of them seemed interested. The Trek shops were locked into Bontrager shoes and the private shops were had concluded that internet sales would dominate the shoe market so they weren't that interested in expanding their shoe selection. Many thanks go out to the reputable internet shoe retailers who understand sizing problems and offer generous return policies.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Thanks for sharing

[@djokerjo]

what is your actual foot length?

[@UnivegaSuperSport]

@@djokerjo right foot is 270mm or 10.5" and 111mm or 4.5 wide.

[@robertcoticcoto8191]

Hy, is these shoes realy heat moldable? because on lake website is nowhere to be found this information?

[@danielrussell9416]

Most shoes give you three sizes, european, US and centimeters. I have better luck going from brand to brand using the centimeter sizing. I'm a 43 in Lake, 43.5 in Sidi, 9.5 in Ascis, 10 in Adidas, 10 in Puma. Lake are fantastic, I have the MX237 wide.

[@brandonposer3026]

I have the MX238 Wide and they are fantastic. These shoes are my back up if the Bont's I ordered don't work well. We'll see. Interesting that you mention they are heat moldable, because I've not see that from Lake before.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Thanks for watching and subscribing

[@millerrit]

I’ve been having numbness issues road biking and it turns out my foot measurements are nearly identical to yours. I expected to go with the mx177 since they say they are 112mm wide in a 45 but lake says the mx218 or better yet mx238 would be their suggestion. The 238 is listed as 116mm width for the wide version of a 45. Is this what you went with and are happy? Just seems like 4-6mm wider than measurement would leave too much room to slide around. FYI my use is road cycling on a lwb recumbent for 5-7 hours per day. Looking for an mx version for the recessed cleat. Thanks!

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

I got mine from competitive cyclist and ordered different shoes and tried them on indoors without cleats until I found the proper shoe. I’m happy with the fit

[@Snicker60515]

I've known the struggle of not being able to find proper fitting shoes for a very long time now. I currently wear a Shimano RC1, which is nice, but has never been ideal. Then I see a video saying that the shoes are the most important thing in riding, which I know to be ABSOLUTELY true, especially when them toes start getting numb. I've been looking at these shoes, and they are terribly expensive, but in the same video it mentions this: "you scoff at spending 300 for shoes, but then you wanna spend 3000 on wheels". I'm probably gonna buy these to try within the next couple weeks, even if I may end up returning them. My current Shimanos are 44(since I'm a size 10 normally) but Lake's site puts my measurements at a 42.5 wide. Hopefully they work! Thanks for sharing!

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

I’ve had both Shimano wides and Lake wides. They’re both great. If it were up to me, I’d spend less on my bike and more on my shoes. I’m jealous of people with normal feet that can spend all their money on the bike, but you’re not going to go fast if you’re feet hurt (I’m proof of that)

[@zikaperic2133]

the moral of story follow the Lake's measuring instructions and you should be fine

[@michaelberger1494]

Just got mine and they fit really well. I am wondering if it is necessary to bake them if the size is perfect?

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

If the shoe fits...don't mess with it.

[@dajunchaohua]

I am moving to California hope to join you for cycling

[@goforbroke2]

I just received my MX238 wide in size 44.5 my foot measured 275mm and 110mm and this is before adding the additional 5mm. These shoe are very narrow in the toe box. I'm trying to figure out how Lake is getting these numbers on width. For my size 44.5 wide it's said to provide room up to 117mm but that doesn't make any sense given the width of my foot and how tight these shoes are. Especially when you measure the removable insole from the shoe it's only 100mm wide in my size! For reference I wear a size 45 in Shimano GR5's and the AM5. The AM5's have a wider toe box then the expensive ass Lakes I just bought and they are more shaped like a foot, but they are MTB shoes, I use them on my gravel bike though. Also I tried the new Shimano ME702 in wide size 45 they weren't coming close to fitting my foot. Hopefully this helps someone out there lol

[@brandonwoudzia3741]

For reference, my foot measured 271mm and 112mm wide and I just tried a few Lake shoes. They recommended the MX238 in a 43.5 based on length, but I had to size up to the 45 to give my smallest 2 toes room without being pressed against the hard lower edge. My foot is shaped such that my second toe and middle toe are actually longer than my big toe, and then tapers down to my little toe. The way that every company seems to design shoes is as if your big toe is the longest and each toe gets smaller all the way down. With my smallest toes being a bit longer my foot is more box shaped and need more width all the way up in the toe box. The max width specified in the sizing charts is at the knob below the small toe, not in the toe box where I need it wide as well. This means I need to size up even with wide shoes to have comfort, and just have to deal with the extra length.

[@xdirugamesh]

My shimano ME501 size 41 make a hotspot at my pinky toe. Already try on CX238 size 41 Wide, the toe box is wider than my ME501. I dunno about MX238 because my LBS didn't have it in stock, but it should be the same with the CX version because same shoe last (?)

[@goforbroke2]

@@xdirugamesh The MX238’s are wider in the toe box than the CX238’s.

[@rbrlbisland]

I purchased a pair of CX238’s on the recommendation of my bike fitter as I have a wider than average foot. Finally I’ve found a pair of shoes that are comfortable! Mine aren’t the wide version either, just the standard fit and the width couldn’t be better. When I put them next to my last pair of cycling shoes I can visibly see the difference in the width of these shoes. Many cycling shoes are made of rigid synthetic material, but these are constructed with soft pliable leather that form to your feet. Yes, they are more expensive than many comparable shoes but in my opinion they are definitely worth the extra cost. If you have wider than average feet then look no further, Lake is the brand for you. One thing to mention. I took my foot measurements as instructed on the website and when I tried them on I needed a half sizer larger than what the chart recommended.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Yes. I feel that I’d rather spend more money on comfortable shoes than any other piece of equipment. Thanks for sharing and subscribing.

[@JAnn319]

Omgoooosh!! Thank you! I have a neuroma and need wide toe box shoe

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

This is your shoe!

[@juliosam9430]

I wear my sneakers and workout shoes 45EU/11.5 US and the site measuring chart puts me on 48EU/14US! Is this reasonable? These are my first bike shoes and I really want a pair of CX238s😢 I'm not sure if i should go with that or size down

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Use the measuring method they have on the website, what what shoe size you use.

[@TheMASDrummer]

I measure exactly the same as you. I'm about to buy the 45 wide cx238. Just want to make sure, it was the 45 wide you got?

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Yes

[@vercingetorix3086]

So if i’am 10us and I add 0.5 so I have to take 10.5 and what is 10.5 in Euro size ? Is it 44 , my foot is 27 cm in length and around 109 to 110 in width . Can you help me here and confirm 44 EUR should be the right size

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

I'm a 10.5 US so use that as a reference as you watch the video and use their website to measure your foot and figure out what size is right for you. Thanks for watching and subscribing.

[@johnboyginger]

Just recently got these, they’re great. I’m sure the CX238’s aren’t oven mouldable around the heel? If they are that’s great because they’re perfect apart from slightly loose around the heel.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

I’ve personally found that the heel is loose only when walking but on the bike does not seem to be an issue… strange

[@johnboyginger]

@@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia actually you’re right. When riding I don’t notice the heel like I do when stationary. Thanks.

[@orionwyard2]

It’s the nxt shoe up from these that are mouldable and made of kangaroo leather, I own the cx 238 and I assure u of this fact, nice review otherwise

[@buster.keaton]

Good point about being able to heat mold the heal so it's not so wide. My experience with most "wide" cycling shoes is that they are actually "high volume" as well, meaning that someone with a wide forefoot and narrow heal (like me) will slip right out of those shoes. I also wear Lake shoes as people who don't have pencil-shaped feet pretty much have no alternatives.

[@lakecycling]

One correction; The CX238 is not heat moldable.

[@feins]

I think there a mistake on the Leather it Premium Cow leather and not Kangaroo, also the 238 are not heat moldable from my understanding. Here in Malaysia we use to EU sizing so i didn't notice that there an error with the sizing for US cos we dont use US sizing here. I wear Shimano size EU42.5 and Giro EU42.5 but lake i was at the tip of 41.5 as my feet was 258mm+5m = 263mm and wide 103mm and ended on the size 21.5 which fit foot size 260.5-263 and wide up to 109mm so my retail shop recommend me to get the size EU42 CX238X where the size fits for foot 263.5-266mm and wide 110mm feet.

[@deg050607]

Lake size chart says to wear your cycling socks and then measure your feet and then add 5mm to the length.Wearing socks I am 277mm plus 5mm =282mm length and 112mm wide.I was recommended a 45 wide cx242 by their Lake rep.The chart actually puts me at a 44.5 though. what do you think size wise please.??

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Try on both to see what fits best.

[@deg050607]

@@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia Trying on shoes means ordering shoes since I don't think there is a store in the state of Wisconsin that sells Lake shoes.I am also wearing Shimano's size 44 wide and these shoes are too narrow.I have heard of competitive cycle which I think you mentioned .Can I bother you again to ask whether you still recommend them?

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

@@deg050607 yes. I still like them.

[@zerolight9420]

How do you find the width? Like you, I'm 110mm (and funnily enough 280mm long) and have been recommended the CX332 wide as a good match, rather than the wider 238.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Their website has a link to tell you how wide your shoe should be based on t he measurements

[@zerolight9420]

@@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia Will look again. I only saw length adjustments.

[@zerolight9420]

Seems like I add 5mm for length, but not supposed to add anything to width, which would suggest the 238 wide is too wide for my 110mm feet and the regular is too narrow. I didn't really want to move up the the CX332.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

@@zerolight9420 if wide is too wide and regular is too narrow, maybe try a different brand

[@zerolight9420]

@@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia their CX332 wide is 110mm, which on the face of it is a perfect width. I was just wondering how you got on long term with the cx238 since you and I seem to have the same size feet. The CX238 is 116mm wide, which my fitter suggests is too wide for our feet, but you don't seem to have any issues. If it is still working for you I am tempted to try it as I'm tired of sore feet and worried that in the middle of a ride, maybe the CX332 will suddenly feel too tight.

[@kenji1204]

I have the same Shimano shoe you showed and bought a pair of Shimano RC 702 (wide) and they were more narrow then the my old shoes and the Shimano's I use on my trainer. What the heck?! My buddy swears by the Lake CX238. When I looked at the sizing I was also confused. If I understand correctly, I should go with the shoe size I come up with when I measure the outline of my foot. Even though I wear a 42.5 in a Shimano, Giro, Northwave, and Specialized.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Yep. Their sizing is different.

[@kenji1204]

@@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia I went through the whole Lake process and confirmed the CX238 wide was right shoe for me. Ordered a pair and Love ❤️ them.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

@@kenji1204 Cool. I still like mine.

[@MOHITJ83]

Amazing review, Just bought these today..BTW pls dont put them in the over, they are not heat mouldable

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@invalice123]

Kangaroos can be a nuisance and are overpopulated in Australia, they are culled from time to time. It makes sense to use what is culled. Hope that helps :)

[@snipercoder9778]

I just got these Lake CX238. I believe the CX238 is not heat moldable and not made from kangaroo leather but from "Full grain Water Resistant Premium Leather". The next model up CX332 is made from kangaroo leather and the heel is heat moldable. Sorry to be the messenger of bad news :(

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

You may be right as there is confusion between what is "premium leather" and "kangaroo leather." I went based upon what was on the website / box.

[@seattlegrrlie]

Lake measurement put me at 39 and I usually wear a 38. Luckily, I do have a bike shop that sells them locally. True enough, I wear a 39. Measure and buy

[@joselarrarte6964]

My size in EU, as per Lake’s sizing chart, is 42.5. I came across a really good deal online for $160 (new) but they are half size smaller, they are 42. Do you thing they will fit? I know and checked your measurements and Lake is correct as far as what you described. Do you think in length I can get away with 1/2 size smaller?

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Can you return them if they don’t fit?

[@joselarrarte6964]

@@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia yes

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

@@joselarrarte6964 get ‘em, try ‘em on and if they’re too small, return them

[@morrismarks1682]

Nice review but a few corrections. The heel is not heat moldable and the leather is not kangaroo. Otherwise I enjoyed your review.

[@alexvielfaure2981]

Not to be too harsh but you decided to go against the size that the Lake chart suggested based on the actual measurement of your foot. I get that as North Americans, we're used to have a US number to fit our size but this number is often arbitrary accross various brands. I get a US 9.5 in a Blundstone, a US 10 in a Converse, a 12 in a Nike, but in most other shoe brands i'm an 11. I think that most people will find success by following the fitting instructions on Lake's website and been thorough in the process.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

That was the whole point. Don’t buy a 10.5 because you’re a 10.5. Buy the one based on their chart and your measurement

[@aaronoviedo5302]

I measured at 270 (+5) with 105 width. Smaller compared to you, but i also wear a 10.5 with New Balance and NIke. Ordered a 43.5 ( i figured my measured foot is smaller than you). Guess what? I have to return it for a 44.5 ...i hope this will be it.

[@axuh382]

How was the fit with 44.5? I have the same measurements

[@aaronoviedo5302]

@@axuh382 perfect on this size 44.5👌👌

[@sheen675]

@@aaronoviedo5302stardard or wide version? thanks

[@aaronoviedo5302]

@@sheen675 wide version

[@ThePremium555]

@@aaronoviedo5302 i have 270mm foot lenght and 110mm wide currently wear 280mm bont, im between 43.5 or 44 for lakes. How was 43.5 to you ,feel short?

[@zypang1447]

Wow, you're saying following Lake's instructions for ordering shoes was correct? Shocking :D

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Correct!

[@achn2b]

Pretty much every shoe manufacturer's size numbers aren't consistent, they're all different from another. One's 44 will measure out as another's 45, or even 43. Makes buying shoes extremely difficult if you haven't tried them on first.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Exactly. That’s why I like competitive cyclist. Good return policy

[@achn2b]

@@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia That's why with Lake, just go by the measurement numbers. Like you, I agree that their EU to US size conversion numbers are a bit off. I think basically, their EU size really should be listed as 1 US size smaller. But the actual foot measurement is what determines the correct fit, so just go by the length and width numbers in millimeters. I've found my proper fitting shoe, and size from the lake line, the 238 shoe in a size 43.5 regular. Almost embarassed to say I now own way too many pairs of these shoes in road and mountain, in various colorways.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

@@achn2b they are pretty nice once you get the correct fit

[@dalev1319]

Same issue with lake

[@dominiquenuyts8309]

Funny guy

[@toomuch9762]

Based on your foot measurements you wear shoes too small for you

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Honest review.. in contrast to your others which were dishonest? Can we not take it as a given that you are honest? Is this sarcasm? Is your honesty in question? Perplexed.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Not sure how this confuses people…

[@jarhead4657]

I hope nobody puts these in the oven and ruins theirs based on your erroneous comments about that and them being kangaroo leather., You should make it clear you were wrong about both of those things. Do some more research before giving bad advice.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Remember the used car salesmen who called themselves "honest"? They were always anything but. If you're honest, you don't need to boast. If you're dishonest, you are compelled to say otherwise.

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

I have no idea how to deal with this comment