Lake Speed's Ford C3 NASCAR Engine: Time Capsule of 90s Technology! (Dyno & Full Teardown)

[@Stapleton42]

This series is extremely awesome because it blends our love of history with building cars and tech stuff! Who was surprised by the findings of the dyno session? 😂 Merch link: stapletonautoworks.com

[@loganerwin42]

Finally some Ford content 😜

[@slopoke22]

I got to build some canted valve Windsors. One of the best sounding engines ever! It should be down a bit. Really surprised the springs made it. BET, they had alot to do with power production. But, depending on how much they put in this going back updated. This thing will turn over 9500 and make 850hp or so. I would assume it'd would be round 2.5 hp per cubic in. Give or take how hard they go!

[@slopoke22]

Me and this guy could have a good conversation. I wish I was there to take this apart and put back together! I have ported some c3s to move alot of air. Wish I could do these!!!!!! Make the port entry look like a Ritz cracker.

[@ericrichardson5995]

Man I love this series. Also love the way Lake Speed Jr explains the technology stuff. Can’t wait to see the next episode!

[@slopoke22]

This thing with a GOOD valve job and a good dude getting all the air speed stuff RIGHT. A cam that means business along with a spring set to match. Yall don't mention cam specs. I know what cam should be in there but what is it? I would like to come up there and work on those heads for real!

[@lakespeedjr.304]

WOW! I'm truly amazed and humbled by all these comments. My Dad and I thank ya'll so much for watching, commenting and enjoying these videos. We are excited to be working with Mitch and Logan, and I can't wait to get this engine back together and on the dyno. Stay tuned!

[@stephengreen2898]

Lake Speed, Jr…. You are doing the best job in renewing FAN interest in Racing …. NASCAR should hire you full time just to do videos

[@lakespeedjr.304]

@@stephengreen2898 Thanks!

[@randallmiller8238]

I enjoy the technical "Talk" being a mechanic, I actually understand what's being said👍 I enjoyed every second of this video, always pulled for your dad back in the day. God bless you guys🙂

[@markmorgan5892]

Lake you are amazing at explaining what everything does and how it works!!! Great great job man!! You would be an absolutely amazing teacher of engines and everything that is inside of them and bolted onto them!! Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge!!!

[@lakespeedjr.304]

@@markmorgan5892 Thanks for the kind words.

[@jfreddy9370]

I really appreciate how passionate Lake Speed Jr. Is about his craft. He really does a great job explaining the tech side of things.🏁

[@Stapleton42]

Extremely!

[@TotalSeal]

That’s why we hired him!

[@racefan2267]

@@TotalSeal well his passion just visibly pours out of him. It’s cool to see.

[@jd2181]

Also intriguing to see how he. As a son saw his dad had that edge you need to be a great racer. And just idolized him for it

[@trailscouter]

@stapleton42 , you should make him a regular!

[@Fleetwoodjohn]

Lake Jr needs to be on TV. He’s got the personality

[@shadowk3]

very excited

[@jimjernigan8694]

Yes!!

[@9HighFlyer9]

Definitely helps in marketing

[@cruechief24]

His enthusiasm reminds me of Doc from Back to the Future.

[@jimlewo4693]

He talks of engines like kenny Wallace talks of driving

[@brandoncravens3877]

This guy is like the Bill Nye of engine builders. I could watch Lake Jr talk about engines for hours.

[@JaimeBobby1776]

Lake Jr. is so enthusiastic and passionate, it’s great how he can explain it all in general terms. You always have a thorough line of questions to engage your guests and get the whole story. Keep up the good work, I love these videos and stories that you’re able to get out to the fans.

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man that means a lot!

[@mikedrop4421]

That's the guy you want analyzing your engine. It's not often you find someone that smart who gets that excited about fighting friction. He's a speed scientist!

[@Stapleton42]

By job title definition he is exactly that!

[@nova467spanker]

@@Stapleton42 Those heads are Cleveland style heads for Nascar. The reason for the SB2 heads is because chevy had noting to run with these heads just like when Ford first came out with the Cleveland. Multiple racing classes band the Cleveland even though its a small block - because they were "not fair" to all other small blocks

[@davidh6818]

He's a Speed scientist by name and profession....

[@TotalSeal]

Speed scientist… that could be a new definition of a Tribologist, LOL.

[@zlinedavid]

If he had a PhD, he’d be Dr. Speed, the Speed Doctor

[@boredcnj]

I wish NASCAR would go back to that era. The crap going on today is making it hard to watch. Not this channel!!! You guys bring awesome history to the for front and the younger generation doesn’t know this stuff. Keep up the great content 👍🏻🏁🇺🇸.

[@dgrcgrl]

I was talking to my wife about this today. It would be cool if Nascar would forget about trying to be formula 1 and go back to its roots. Let little guys like Lake, and some of the other small shops be able to have a chance at winning. GO back to some of the older speedways, like rockingham and north wilksburough...

[@Stapleton42]

Thank you Chuck we are glad to have you on the team!

[@chevyjames8527]

I agree but disagree at the same time. I agree they need to go back to their roots. The racing isn’t the same. But, everyone hates the cars. The cars needed a major overhaul. They was not resembling the cars of today. I think they got the cars right, but the rules have ran off the local guys like it used to be back in the day.

[@boredcnj]

@@Stapleton42 btw let me know if you can find a restrictor plate pen holder 👍🏻

[@kevind3185]

I'd like to see Nascar go back to stock. At least in the late 80's they had factory hood, roof, and deck lid skins that had to fit a template. The so much technology has came from racing to the street. For example he Arrow Back Monty Carlo wouldn't have ever came to be if it wasn't for the Thunderbirds in Nascar.

[@jeremygray4338]

From the looks of JR you would not think he was as knowledgeable as he is about race cars, and how exciting it makes him to talk about it. Boy his eyes lit up got to talking with his hands. You can tell he really enjoys what he does for a living!!

[@electriceye3942]

I like Lake Jr's enthusiasm. Seems like a really cool guy just like his dad. Great video!

[@SilentStorm21]

you can really tell he loves what he does

[@Ezisnotaman]

These Lake Speed and Larry McClure videos are GOLD! Keep em coming, brother!!

[@Stapleton42]

Thank you!!

[@Mjones8383]

That's music to my ears, 90s were the best Era of nascar

[@Stapleton42]

Absolutely!

[@mfdt18c78]

I love the history. My Dad was a lifelong nascar fan. He drag raced for over 40 years and even did dirt car racing for about 7 years. We drag raced together for years and see the history of nascar really makes me think of him and then see the engine being torn down really brings back memories of my Dad and I building and rebuilding engines for the drag cars. Thank for doing this KZbin channel to help me remember my Dad who passed away a few years ago.

[@jeffbryant2052]

I ran some laps at Gro Pro Motorplex with Lake last Friday and after one of our morning sessions went to his garage and thanked him for doing the video with you. He’s such a nice guy!

[@Stapleton42]

That’s awesome man thank you!

[@Crispy1320]

When I heard that number I was really shocked I did not think it was going to be that low. I love the way Lake Speed Jr talks not only is it very informative but he has such great energy and you can tell he truly loves what he does. I myself am a data nerd I love the information some of it I did know but a lot of it is new information.

[@stephengreen2898]

Ditto… Lake Jr makes such sense… Then “SAW” makes sure all is explained for ANY FAN who has no background understanding.. Great CHANNEL.. I just subscribed and “PUNCHED that Bell.”

[@RustyWells2]

I love Jr he's the best guy you have ever had on the channel I could just sit and listen to him talk about engines and race cars all day!

[@stephengreen2898]

EXACTLY!

[@stephengreen2898]

Lake & his wife Rice (pronounced “REECE AH”…) have BEEN GREAT PARENTS…. AND RICE is best friends with Stevie Waltrip…

[@benhampton9593]

Lake Speed jr is great. We have some old engines we ran in arca like that about 200 hp down lol. No really we was getting 620 645 out of them blocks back then. Thank you that took me back 30 years. Awesome.

[@Blackswan19874]

Super “Motörhead” video ! 20 years sitting took its toll , valve springs with full loads on them and the blow -by all adds up quick. Can’t wait to see the next segment , you guys rock !

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks Terry!

[@stephengreen2898]

Lake Jr makes this video FUN… He is the most UNDISCOVERED talent for helping generate interest & make new fans for all motor racing I have seen in 25 years!

[@OmizaruHaven]

Came to learn some Nascar history, stayed for Lake Jr.'s enthusiasm. Amazing content guys!!!

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man!! You’ll love our other history videos

[@ChainDragGONE]

Mitch, This effort involving old technology to what is possible in 2022 is very impressive. Watching a true old engine come to life after 20 + years and still make 450 + hp with matched pistons head combinations was a very interesting point. I really appreciate the effort and sincere interest trying to get possible product suppliers on board to recreate a viable race engine for Lakes road race car. The Energy of this build with Lakes son is contagious....! Thanks for what you and Loren are presenting.

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man! its Logan lol we appreciate you!

[@ChainDragGONE]

@@Stapleton42 Mitch/Logan Apologies for mistake on Logans name! Thanks you for reply as it surprised me that you respond to viewers imput and reply accordingly. Something that impressed me while documenting this engine was how Lake Jr. and engine builder compared so many possibilities of its original build. I make a race product and compare how small changes and total combinations of parts equal a net gain in performance.... ! When Lake talked about engine oil side of JGR I remember why we started racing with it.( Low compression pistons and big CC combustion chambers ) really Isn't the best for big HP. I reread my post and didn't write exactly what I was thinking! If you ever do more kart racing ( Millbridge) think about this post, I have something that you might really be Intrested in and Lake JR. would tell you HECK Ya Man....! Thanks

[@cmr189psu]

The energy and enthusiasm of Lake Jr is so amazing. He wants to see everything be great again. This is a very interesting series.

[@kramnull8962]

Thanks! Love the content. Wish my Dad was still around to enjoy your content as well. Racing fans from the 60's through today....

[@Stapleton42]

Thank you so much man!!!

[@kramnull8962]

@@Stapleton42 What's a half a tank of gas, for all the driving you do... Your work on this channel is awesome!

[@crackerlackingproductions6746]

After listening to Lake Jr I'm ready to be an engine builder. So much knowledge he shares and his passion for the science. You can't not enjoy learning how it works. This is a great series. Thanks.

[@woodyholland9865]

I had to keep stopping and re-watching to figure out all the points Jr was making. My poor tired brain had trouble keeping up with his tech talk. This kind of video is amazing. Keep up the good work.

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man!! I love hearing that you're committed enough to learning to rewind for things. I do the same

[@gac914]

What a GREAT video -- very informative, as always!! My late father-in-law used to see me watching a cup oval race and comment that "they just go around in circles." I would explain to him that a lot of the modern-day street car technology that lets motors last 200,000-plus miles, and makes cars stop in a fraction of the distance that cars were capable of in the fifties and sixties came because of what guys like are in this video were doing in research and altering technology to make those engines and cars last 500 miles at those kind of speeds and RPM's! Lake Speed and his son are every bit as passionate about this as they were back then! Can't wait for the next part!

[@Brock_Landers]

Bro, once a racer, ALWAYS a racer! The need for speed never leaves you! I have always loved that adrenaline rush of feeling speed and the danger that comes along with it. I'm 39 now (yeah I know, not that old), and I still have a 709 wheel horsepower EJ8 Honda Civic coupe that runs 9s and I still race it. I also have a 2004 Acura TL as a daily with headers, no cats, a full Invidia exhaust with dual mufflers, an Injen cold air intake, a six speed manual swap, and a 75 shot dry Nitrous kit. It made 282 whp without nitrous on its current tune. It still pulls hard at 140 mph...so with nitrous it's alot of fun.

[@billyj.williams2341]

A point of contention... the early "Jack Roush" intake manifold are for the 6049 A3, B351 and C302 cylinder heads. These were Cleveland architecture canted valve heads (9 degree valve angle with 4 degrees of side cant) with raised intake runners which were raced in NASCAR 1983-89ish. Robert Yates had nothing to do with those heads, the pattern work was done by Alan Root, early port design was done by Bud Moore and later Roush.... The 6049 C3 heads on Lakes engine are a Yates design where it kinda shares the intake and exhaust pattern of the C302 but there is alot of valve train, port architecture and outer espc the Intake face/flange changes. The biggest thing Yates did on the C3 was remove the side cant from the intake valve, which made huge improvements to valve train stability at higher RPM.... in later revised C3L and C3H heads the valve angle was reduced to 8.3 degrees with no side cant and the valves position was shifted .060 towards the center of the chamber so a 2.180 valve size would fit in a 4.14x bore better. Cool video and tha engine should be easy to improve considering how mismatched it was.

[@Stapleton42]

I had no idea there were so many C3 variations!

[@greenmirror5555]

You should organize an overview video about the specifics with Mitchell! Would be great if he had long history of Chevy/Ford/Toyota V8 designs through the years. Only couple years ago I found out there was a R05 program before the R07....I think toyota had a trd 9 and a 14? eh probably a bunch of eras.

[@gailtaylor1636]

Love to hear what Ernie Elliot has to say about all this stuff. He was doing a lot of stuff his own way I believe.

[@billyj.williams2341]

@@gailtaylor1636 Alot of the teams altered the heads as they saw fit... Ernie's main cyl head guy was Kent Ford and he is a very, VERY sharp guy. I have owned a couple sets A3 castings that he ported. When I was a teenager just starting to race myself in the early 90s I had the luxury of picking thru my Dad's supply of used parts from his days working with various Cup teams. I've built a ton of this stuff, especially Fords. None of it was the same depending on where it came from and all of it had interesting changes. Up until 2009 we had a bunch of old NASCAR cyl heads and intakes from the 83-98 timeframe..... When dad retired and my brother and I took over the shop we scrapped it all because honestly it was just worn out, outdated parts that back then nobody cared about the history of and our new building didn't have room to store it anymore.

[@billyj.williams2341]

@@greenmirror5555 I wish he would have been doing this prior to 2009.... back then I had 10-15 sets of old heads and intakes from the 83-98 era. All stuff from teams my dad worked for over the yrs. I'd have been able to show you development from the 23 degree GM 034 bowtie, 049 Phase 6 to the Pontiac 867 to the last 18 degree Bowtie to the first SB2....Ford - from furnace braised factory Cleveland 4V casting to the 6049 A3, B351, C302, to a set of Penske 6049 C3Hs. In 09 dad retired, we downsized and anything cracked or worn out got scrapped... anything modern enough to be useable got practically given away. They last good set of C302s we had are on a 410" 9.5 deck engine we built for a street/drag car.... 702HP and 597TQ. With some revisions to the port work, 1987 Technology can still make good power, especially with today's camshaft and valve train technology.

[@andrewhoward6282]

I agree with J Freddy! I could listen to Lake Speed Jr talk about this all day long. Thanks for all your videos Stapleton42! Enjoy them all!

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks for watching!

[@RLRSwanson]

Only a couple of minutes in and this video is already the business, very nice. I like how Lake Jr mentioned the trying to keep in the spirit of the period with the vintage stuff Sr raced and then some of the other guys...I'm reminded of the conversations that have gone on over the years with modern small block (ex-nascar in particular) things finding their way into vintage/historic F5000 racers, Lola T70 Mk.IIIBs and Dekon Monzas and so on.

[@Stapleton42]

We agree! Thanks man!

[@RLRSwanson]

@@Stapleton42 Now that I've watched the whole video, I thought the Morgan Mcclure video on the restrictor plate intake and the cylinder heads was some of the most fascinating content I've seen in a while, this one tops that. Looking forward to what happens next. Lake Jr going into the theoretical alleged alternate use of the dry sump fuel pump was pure gold. He has, what in my exprience, is a pretty rare skill among engineers, in being able to explain complex things in a way that a complete layman can understand what they're looking at.

[@pyloric932]

Thanks!

[@Stapleton42]

Thank you so much!!

[@chesspiece81]

It is awesome to have people this excited to see it and eager to share with all of us. If that motor is down 4 points in compression at 9.1 and could should run 13.1-13.5 compression there is a TON of power.

[@xxkingslayemxxgamer5553]

If they raise the compression to 13.5 it'll make 220 more horsepower

[@chesspiece81]

@@xxkingslayemxxgamer5553 I don't know if it will make 220hp but I would imagine there has to be 120-150hp there. I think I read somewhere that 1 compression point was like 5-7% so 4 compression points would be 20-30%. At say 500hp that would be 100-150hp just in the compression. To gain that much power it would need to be like 12% or more per point.

[@Thraser999]

@@xxkingslayemxxgamer5553 Don't know if that much, because even with only bumping the compression, the friction would be way higher as well, so from the net gain you have to substract the loss caused by an increase in heat/friction. Obv refreshing valve springs, oil pump, and stuff, plus an optimized tune, well, that could help bring it up just as much as compression...

[@erpfanatic6586]

Observing horsepower being created, crafted, and honed is a very dense type of content. Complex, yet my understanding has skyrocketed due to the explanations of how the internal parts need to work in harmony, and the bit about oil flow was amazing!

[@battlestar7779]

Thanks so much for your time to dig deep on this one. Lake Jr. is remarkable at explaining the processes of this investigation- can’t wait to see the next follow-up on this. I really love the fact that you found the Speed family, and they are willing to share so much of their time and resources with you (ultimately us ! ). I’ve found a whole new respect for that family and their racing heritage. May God continue to bless them (and you) on life’s journey. Thanks again. ❤️

[@gr4eme1975]

I think this is possibly the best video upload to date, this is gonna be epic. I hope you can continue working with Jnr on other engine projects having him in your corner is a major boost

[@Stapleton42]

We absolutely are going to!

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Oh man. Lake Jr. What a cool guy. I love his enthusiasm about this stuff and the history of the machines of the sport. I could listen to him for hours. I was always a fan of Lake Speed. I just admired his privateer team and how he ran it. These two videos have been so interesting learned so much about his career. And so cool he still has those Purex Thunderbirds. As a scale model builder. I love to build accurate NASCAR models. And that car has been in my line up of To Do builds. Along with his Wynns Olds. These videos have answered a few questions I had about both of those cars. Side note. I came up with that Purex paint job 4 years earlier on a model car. I liked building "What If" race car models. Only difference was the number and it was a Pontiac not a Ford. So when Lake showed up with that car. I fell in love with it. I love this video series and looking forward to the next.

[@judyrichmond1529]

I can see a spark jumping from a plug to some steel nearby

[@mullalan]

Another great video. Lake and his father seem like some really great people!. Hope you noticed how excited Sr was when they told him they would get that HP back.

[@gforce323i]

This is gold Stapleton, I love this series of videos! In the 70’s and 80’s Lake Speed and Haddock’s karting adventures where an inspiration to me as a young racer, then followed up by Lake’s NASCAR efforts as a privateer. This peek behind the curtain is awesome, what a great family with a passion for racing still strong today. So genuine, open, and honest. Was surprised at seeing in previous videos that Lake still has the kart that he drove to the world championship sitting in his shop, along with a dozen other karts, and two engine Dyno’s lol. Excited to see what what Lake Jr has in store for this engine in the future.

[@bassingman9911]

Lake Jr has the enthusiasm that makes you want to be there with you guys. Hope you guys are gonna be at some of the races at North Wilkesboro. Got tickets for the Aug 12th and 13th dates.

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man!!

[@tchapps88]

I love these videos on old cup engines and the parts that they had to work with back in the day!

[@Stapleton42]

Glad you like them!

[@yourdogtrainer]

I close my eyes and Jr sounds like Kenny Wallace. Love the passion

[@Stapleton42]

I can totally see that!

[@pjwick2437]

Great to see what they were running when I started following NASCAR and getting into it. Good times remembered, Thank You !

[@Stapleton42]

Our pleasure! Thank you for being here!

[@jdhaase1417]

Love what y’all are doing! I’m an old NASCAR fan. Keep making these videos and I’ll keep watching!

[@Ronaldl2350]

Love Lake Jr's enthusiasm and technical talk. His personality is fantastic as well. Look forward to what you all find Is the main problem with the engine and what the final Dyno numbers turn out to be.

[@mitchellholroyd2837]

I didn't know that there is a profession of the study of friction. Learning something new everyday. Love this channel!

[@Stapleton42]

I did not know either lol. We appreciate you!

[@TotalSeal]

Tribology for the win!

[@BigfootSOH]

This series of videos are the best ever. You're the only one doing this and are showing an insight only that generation knew. It would be lost forever if you didn't travel down this path. Fantastic job and fascinating one of a kind video record you have created of old school NASCAR drivers, tech, team shops and racing history before it's lost to the ages. You know this stuff is good you can see it in your face, but I hope you realize what an important thing you two are doing as well to preserve history. LOVE these videos and thank you for your hard work and dedication. All your videos are great, but these are AWESOME!! Keep it up! :)

[@michaelscott7482]

Of course, another great Stapleton42 video.

[@Stapleton42]

Thank you Michael!

[@chevypower22350]

Lake Speed is an awesome guy. Met him at a vintage karting event in Ohio at my home track. He actually talked about karting growing up and had time for everyone. Really cool to see a time capsule of an engine

[@mohawkvalleyphenomenon2974]

I’m sorry but seeing his sons pride and excitement about all of this is amazing. I think of living in my fathers shadow and can understand him in someway. The excitement of bringing back the past to him is in measurable. Thank you for this channel and all of the things you are doing for the Speed family but I have to say they have done a hell of a lot in there lifetime for you to even be there. You all are helping each other and it’s great to see love and peace ✌️❤️

[@Stapleton42]

Absolutely agree with all of that. I think it should be the goal of every dad to be the kind of dad admired by their son like Lake Sr and Jr.

[@seanneuhaus8361]

Why can't we come up with a. Rolling bearing engine dry sump been around forever

[@mohawkvalleyphenomenon2974]

@@Stapleton42 Not only that but if you’re not lucky enough to have a father, there are a lot of good dads out there willing to help. Thank you for your channel it is great, please always be humble and always care like you are right now for this family. With the right compassion the channel will go through the roof and I will be able to say I was here close to the beginning of an honest and caring channel thank you. Peace and love ❤️☮️✌️✌️🙏🏻🙏🏻🏁🏁🇺🇸🇺🇦Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦👍

[@shollandmusic2131]

Lake Speed Jr has a great voice for TV. I think he'd be great in a Larry Mac type of role in broadcast!

[@pfamartin1969]

Just want to add my thanks for this video. I loved the first ones with Lake but seeing his son's enthusiasm as well is so entertaining. Keep on going with these type of videos. I'm looking forward to the next chapter of this series

[@Stapleton42]

Our pleasure! We absolutely will!

[@matts.3514]

Wow I was not expecting to watch the whole 47 minutes straight through……very entertaining. Can’t wait for the next part.

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks Matt!

[@supersevenn]

Lake Speed Jr is such a wealth of knowledge. What a cool cat. Thanks for the series to Lake Speed Sr & Jr, the dyno shop , Mitchell and his lady and everyone else involved in getting the parts together. Looking forward to the next one

[@tedzehnder961]

These NASCAR guys are true enthusiasts and class acts to share their knowledge with us, you and your channel. Kudos.

[@HammerPowered]

Fascinating. You can tell Lake Jr. is really passionate and enthusiastic about what he does and did a great job explaining things. Definitely interested in where this goes next - here for it man.

[@loviedebiasio8864]

Love all these interviews showing my era when I watched and raced. I race very beginner division at Saugus Speedway In California outside of LA. Won some races and had a great time

[@dansimpson6247]

This is hands down the best You Tube vid I have ever witnessed. My birthday was yesterday so thank you for this gift! Great job you two!

[@Stapleton42]

Wow, thank you! Happy birthday Dan!

[@jeffausbun]

I've been away for a while, and what a great video to start catching up. I have always been an underdog fan of nascar racing. I always rooted for lake.... my late son loved your channel and I still do to... cheers!

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks Jeff we are so glad you’re here!

[@richardhall916]

I'm constantly amazed at the level of thought and creative genius , that engine builders put in to these engines. It's incredible! Picking up a few HP here, by doing "x' , a few there by doing "y", the constant evolution, and improvement is truly fascinating

[@keithtobin5369]

New subscriber. Great job. And you are with Lake. Jr. One of my favorites. Keep explaining!! Thanks!

[@TheCrewChief374]

Definitely I trust this will be a ongoing video series. Since Lake Sr. and Jr are for sure are enjoyable to listen to their interaction with one another and the camera. It is also definitely interesting to listen to Lake Jr speak on things like the piston rings thicknesses, the cylinder wall honing process, and even the heavy value springs. Aside from the breaking down of explaining the blow by issue in relationship to power loss. Moreover, I will say it definitely updates some things that I had previously learned. It also opened up my mind and overall understanding of what exactly is possible in engine technology. I will add you for sure got something really exciting going on with this series of videos, from my perspective anyways...

[@Stapleton42]

Thank you so much. We love learning the tech side of things too!!

[@graysonbyass-rascoe4326]

Lake was so underrated, i am glad how you are uncovering and helping restore nascar history! Keep it up :)

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man!!

[@waynesligar5948]

I grew up in the 70 80 and 90 watching racing this is so cool to see a motor of that era still going

[@iamgriff]

Not just a small business having fun trying to make a living. You are also a historian to the NASCAR era. Keep up the great content!

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man. That just happens to be our small business lol

[@msands7713]

Dude, 6 minutes in, and juniors excitement and knowledge is awesome!!!

[@Stapleton42]

Agreed completely!

[@msands7713]

@@Stapleton42 Love the windage/friction/piston ring content! So cool how the engineering has progressed in those areas for more power. Cant wait for the revamped motor video!

[@paulhockman5511]

Lake is and was such a cool racer. The little guy who carried a big stick by way of talent. I'd love to see him running HSR with this car at Road Atlanta. Maybe the Mitty. What a cool video series for a beloved and missed racer with an amazing story!

[@Stapleton42]

That would be cool!

[@stinkybeagle]

You know I learned alot about engines by watching this video. Really fun to watch. Looking forward to the continuation of the engine rebuild. Thank you for doing. Thank you to Lake and Lake Jr and the folks at the dyno shop.

[@joeychaseable]

The Best Video you've ever done. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say One of the best Video series of all time in the KZbins history! Just awesome!

[@Stapleton42]

Thank you so much Stan!!

[@bennyhelgeson401]

Very fun stuff. Enthusiasm from Speed Jr. is contagious

[@carrsllccarrillo6507]

Man I watched both videos from start to finish. Had to rewatch the second video. There is so much knowledge here that I can learn from and it's all part of racing history! Infact I learned so much more about engines here then what I learned in engine performance class in college! I really do love this stuff! The shop over there is incredible and all that diagnostic tools and equipment is engine builder's wet dream! I wish the place I worked at where I use to build and repair marine engines was even half of that shop! I worked in a primitive warehouse cave! Really looking forward to the next video! Keep up the great work Stapleton!

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man that’s awesome!

[@AzMz6]

Dude, this is amazing. Thank you for bringing us this. 90’s NASCAR is my favorite. The history and the pieces that made it work is just fascinating.

[@Stapleton42]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@brentmead3131]

And I just gotta say, Lake Jr is a smart smart man. Wow I’m blown away with his knowledge

[@dandavidson5239]

Robert Yates contributed so much to the Ford engine racing program.....LEGEND..... #28

[@espeeKeith]

Love the stories... like on the Dale Jr download. Lake said you could pump air in or out wink wink 😆. That ingenuity is what made the sport awesome I think, not this everyone has the same equal stuff like now. I was amazed with the oiling setup in this, something I didn't know.

[@hughobrien4139]

Being a cylinder head guy I’m going to be betting the beryllium copper seats are wiped out and not flowing any air. Back then everyone was stuck on .002 valve guide clearance and that would wipe out beryllium copper. They also used a bunch of seat angles on the intake and if one of those angles got wiped out from the seat width growing too wide the air flow would be reduced more than we can imagine. I also suspect those valve springs have given up the ghost to a degree. Then there’s pushrod deflection. Rocker Arms flexing like plastic. Just my bet. I’ve got a set of these heads still brand new.

[@TotalSeal]

Agreed. The seats had to be shot.

[@truthliveshere831]

You’re definitely barking up the right tree, having rockers loading those springs for 20 years probably didn’t do them any favors.

[@lakespeedjr.304]

@@truthliveshere831 that and the leaded fuel residue can be corrosive.

[@philipmacduffie7612]

Those old jesel solid bodies are not floppy, they are heavy. I'm not going to.stand here and bump my chest or anything but a 90s cup motor didn't have 5/16 pushrods in it either. I think you are going to find weak springs, ring seal problems in those hazy bores, and valve seats that are just flat wore out. It's not like pro motor doesn't have more experience than most in old hardware. That is what they do. Those heads look like c302 era c3s not c3l as well. Cutiously it had one peice rocker Pads. I'm not experienced enough to know that an unrestricted c3l beats a c3/c303. But they look canted to me. A later head is not.

[@TotalSeal]

@@philipmacduffie7612 agreed. We got the build sheets. The motor was last rebuilt in 2002, so it is more modern than the 1992 T-Bird it came out of.

[@thomasleclair7418]

,,,,Glad I discovered this Channel today.........The Comp Cams tour was awesome,,,,,,,,As a 71 year young engine machinist and student since 1965,,,,,,,,I see a 9:1 compression 358,,,,with 170 cranking psi. 480 HP ...After all those years dormant ; I'm surprised a valve spring did not fail at 8 grand......keep up the great work and videos.....With 13:1 and no restrictor plate , plus the Total Seal ring tech of today.....the HP will go past 700.......

[@williambeckman6900]

I am amazed at the knowledge these guys have about the famous 351 Cleveland engine. Long after that engine was so popular, I worked in engine plant #1 at the Cleveland site. Unfortunately today the casting plant, engine plant #2 and all other ancillary buildings have been torn down. Only the original engine plant remaines with all new computerized equipment.

[@simoncullum5019]

They probably cut their teeth on the Cleveland , you never forget your first experience

[@sheadiego]

Love this series. Thanks everyone who’s involved for your time and energy. Good stuff. Look forward to seeing the end result!

[@DavidSmith-eu4lq]

Great video, can't wait to see how much horsepower they can get out of this engine!

[@bradkroboth5490]

I still have a Lake Speed purex thunderbird die-cast from the easy 90s, I think 92. I always pulled for the ford's n the underdogs, much respect to him

[@jimjernigan8694]

Lake Speed Jr brings a ton of energy and passion. Hell of a hire! Can’t wait for the follow up- I’m say 720!!

[@westtexasdave2140]

Lake Jr gets pretty excited and I love it

[@johnmorgan4921]

Suprised at the dyne results, learned a lot about the oiling systems too. Looking forward to Lake getting back into the car and his reaction to the refresh. Great stuff!!! Cheers!

[@Stapleton42]

Thank you!

[@jasonpowell9065]

Lake Jr gets as excited about engines as I do!

[@kennyfofo]

That is crazy how just sitting around can effect the horsepower of an engine! It will be fun to see how much the modern parts can increase the performance!!

[@Stapleton42]

Absolutely!

[@darienwhite574]

My grandfather got his hands on an intake for the same motor.. it isn't even drilled yet its just a raw casted intake... so cool...

[@iannorton4463]

Excellent Mr. Mitchell, bloody brilliant. The English guy can't wait for the next instalment. ✌️🇬🇧✌️🇺🇸

[@sadiejustin]

What a great addition to the library you two are building! Thank you for it!

[@ryurc3033]

Your so lucky to hang out with all these guys. Most everything I work on is normal, everyday cars, all I ever wanted was to work on em, maybe someday, the closer I get to 40 the less likely it seems

[@Mistapetey67]

Thank you for the effort you put into these videos. I am 42 and a life long NASCAR fan. My childhood was 90s NASCAR. I wish they had more in depth tech like your videos today. then again there is a lot of trade secrets involved. 20 years later they can tell the stories of how they came up with all these tricks. Keep it up 👍

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man!!

[@Wooley689]

Now the power issue is leaving us with a cliffhanger. Have to say that Speed jr. made this even more exciting to watch.

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man! We just talked to him today about the next phases of the build!

[@stephengreen2898]

Wow… It is so good to see the passion still left in Lake & his son… Lake Jr needs to be in BROADCASTING…. Radio and/or TV

[@timothyrichardson4740]

GREAT VIDEO!!! EXCITED FOR PART 2!!!! 2 THUMBS UP

[@WillD.5545]

Stapleton42, I grew up on early 90’s Winston Cup races. I was very young when I got to meet Dale Sr, Alan Kulwicki, Davey Allison, and few others that are now legends. I’m loving the history that y’all are finding in that corner of the south. I’ve gotten really nostalgic for the old days of NASCAR recently from watching y’all’s channel and I found another channel called “Smiff TV”. If you’re like me, I’m sure you’ve seen it. He’s got a lot of the old broadcast and satellite feed races from a few different eras of NASCAR. If you watch any of them, check out the 1985 Daytona 500 and the Southern 500 races. Awesome Bill from Dawsonville in my home state of Georgia. There’s also a documentary with a Elliot shop tour in 1989 that I think you’d enjoy. Keep up the good work, love the throwbacks!

[@rossroedel5280]

Awesome video! Yates power was legendary in the 90s and early 2000s, and I've always wanted to learn more about what made them work so well. Really cool to see the dyno pulls and teardown

[@michaelmaxey8843]

Seeing those guys together and teaching others that don't know as much as they do I'd really something you guys have my favorite automotive channel on KZbin there's always something cool here weather it's a 632 swaped suburban or racing history videos I'm down for it all thank you for doing what you do

[@Stapleton42]

Thanks man we love that you’re down with everything we do!! That means a lot to us

[@MDBenson]

This is awesome stuff. Real engine-nerding. I love Lake Jr's enthusiasm too, you can tell this is his field, and he loves it.

[@Rattlesnake12]

Amazing that in his 70s and still getting it!! That goes to show you boys never get old!!!

[@jaredoaks6317]

Awesome video! I was nerding out on the tear down and the specs of the engine. Great job and I love how engaged Logan is and asking great questions

[@Stapleton42]

She is extremely involved! More than most people are aware of

[@stephengreen2898]

So that is the Young Lady’s name… LOGAN?? She really did add so much BY ASKING QUESTIONS MANY OF US WERE THINKING ABOUT TOO… Great video.. I just subscribed to SAW.

[@jeremiahjohnson5610]

Oh part 2 came so much faster than i thought. Great lunch time video. Hell yah cant wait to see it all.