Bravo! This process is roughly as complicated as a wooden slab set in a mold and epoxied, but this is vastly superior in the end.
@productdesignermaker Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ManuelGarcia-ww7gj Жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker You are more than welcome.
@danilokostic1753 жыл бұрын
Hello, i am scene props from Serbia and i am forever thanful youtube recommended your videos.
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome to hear! Thank you!
@kjelljesus37843 жыл бұрын
Nice to meet you, Scene Props
@macareha12903 жыл бұрын
ćao
@cesarortiz33903 жыл бұрын
Buen trabajo saludos de Monterrey nuevo león
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Mexico! Great to be there with you (albeit by video)!!
@theofarmmanager2673 жыл бұрын
It’s a very good video. A few comments The glue spreader shown is very expensive - £100? You can get pretty much the same result - just a little slower - using a normal foam brush and tray The type of glue is important. Go for one that has a longer open life. I use either Titebond Extend or Titebond 3 I use a lot more breather fabric than that shown. I always have this fear about air being trapped. It’s an once only process and so I would rather be safe than sorry There is obviously a ball CER between the severity of the curve required, the thickness of the laminates and the type of timber. Flex plywood is the easiest but if you wanted the shape shown and had no flex ply, you couldn’t do it with 2 x 6mm ply; you might have to use 6 x 2mm. If using “real” timber, obviously go for straight grained where possible; again, try the process out first with all laminates dry. That trial run will show you if your shape can be achieved with what laminates you have chosen; if it fails, then at least you haven’t got a mess to clean up Pre forming can work. By that I mean, put all the laminates in the bag stacked but without glue; sometimes,even wet with water to soften the fibres; vacuum and leave. After a few house, take out and the laminates will have taken (only)part of the shape you want. Now glue and re-vacuum. This method helps particularly with severe shapes or thicker laminates. You are really pre-stressing the laminates. It doesn’t always work. Failures will happen. If you want a shape topped by some expensive, exotic veneer, form the shape in one process with all the laminates glued but no veneer (if it fails, you haven’t wasted the veneer) then re vacuum with the veneer now glued up and in place.
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
Excellent information that will certainly help people to navigate this process. Thank you.
@adrianperalta71926 жыл бұрын
Ah!, entiendo, maestro👍, muchas gracias!! Saludo desde en Argentina👊!
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
Have a good day!
@joonathanstephens54384 жыл бұрын
el queso sabe a árboles de alta calidad
@marywilson55796 жыл бұрын
Really clear instructional video. Thanks for sharing!
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@tarkmutlu57076 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the video my friend. It was very helpful.I have a lot of 6 mm plywood in my stock. Can I laminate them on top of each other and thicken them with this method? Is it strong? I want to process it on CNC later. I would be very pleased if you answer.
@SaqibKhan-tr6eg Жыл бұрын
How to bend 8mm fly wood into 2 1/2 inch round pipe
@productdesignermaker Жыл бұрын
Try this.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJfVgWCVgLB2rrs
@BNBFORYOU4 жыл бұрын
very fantastic
@productdesignermaker4 жыл бұрын
محمد السلاخ thank you
@BNBFORYOU4 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker you are welcome. i hope if you have group in the WhatsApp to learning we
@productdesignermaker4 жыл бұрын
محمد السلاخ sorry, I dont
@anzaeria5 жыл бұрын
Ive done a similar thing before - gluing multiple sheets of plywood together to create a curve. It is indeed very strong. As an alternative approach, could you nail the sheets of ply together? I'm not sure if it would retain the same shape that way.
@productdesignermaker5 жыл бұрын
anzaeria it would be possible to bend and then secure the material at the ends. I’d suggest g clamps or nuts and bolts through drilled holes. Otherwise screwing through waste materials at the ends, into a former.
@DomAviationChannel3 жыл бұрын
simply GENIUS - thank you for sharing
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@soupesoupe4 жыл бұрын
Will it ever lose its shape? If there's humidity in the air? If it's left outdoors?
@productdesignermaker4 жыл бұрын
jean bui it’s absolutely rigid and will never lose its shape if kept indoors. It’s not for outdoor use or anywhere humid (without an extremely well applied exterior surface finish). The adhesive could be exterior grade, but I don’t think you’d find exterior graded plywood that was thin enough to bend.
@Ksekon692223 жыл бұрын
Какая фанера и клей ? Спасибо.
@workshopariojatifurniturej69033 жыл бұрын
Greetings Anak Rantau Interior Multitriplek Plywud from Indonesia 🇮🇩 In my opinion, the curved method is good in this video. However, for me the contractor follows this method. but this video is good and interesting to add insight to me🙏☺️
@bacharkawji80235 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@productdesignermaker5 жыл бұрын
Bachar Kawji thank you
@trazcotraz27986 жыл бұрын
The same result I get for several item in the same time using a rachet straps on the templates without need it a pomp. Anyway, the ideea is interesting
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
Trazco Traz agreed but it’s tougher with ratchet straps when there’s any concave aspect to the shape
@Draskinn5 жыл бұрын
This might be overkill for such a simple shape but I can definitely see potential to make more complex and as such harder to clap shapes like this.
@ferdinandmuliro52856 жыл бұрын
Perfect technology
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ferdinand
@mirbek34175 жыл бұрын
Очень хороший метод!
@xxthemythicalproxx84522 жыл бұрын
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@Thomas..Anderson3 жыл бұрын
1:57 A plastic tube and a sleeve (C - channel) are used to seal the bag. I find this very useful. What is ii? Could you elaborate on that.
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
Have a look at www.airpress.co.uk or www.bagpress.com
@homebodyhero46026 жыл бұрын
Amazang.
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
Thaank you!
@vijayan913 жыл бұрын
hi sir, what you are using for vacuum bag sealant
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
It’s a purpose made black plastic tube that fits into a piece of u section channeling.
@vijayan913 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker ok, thank you so much
@TheZahnputz5 жыл бұрын
Hi, could you please tell me what kind of pump youre using? mine (a cheap model) is, acoording to the instruction manual, not for permanent use (several hours) under pressure. thanks
@productdesignermaker5 жыл бұрын
TheZahnputz have a look at www.airpress.com. My pump is from them. Modern adhesives require less time to work too. Maybe 4/5 hours.
@ssnoyes6 жыл бұрын
How would you go about doing an S shape with this method? Do you have to create styrofoam forms for both sides, or still able to do it with just one side? What method do you use for shaping the foam in the first place?
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
Hi, still just one side of styrofoam needed with this method of placing in a bag and removing the air. You’d only need a male and female former if you were relying on clamping it together rather than using the bag. It would be very difficult to make male and female styrofoam formers that fitted each other perfectly (it wouldn’t be possible to make them both from one big block as you wouldn’t find a bandsaw big enough, and if you did, you’d still have to sand them afterwards). The method I use for making the former is to draw a template on card, cut it out (ideally laser cut), then draw around the template on a sheet of styrofoam (approx 150mm thick), cut out on the bandsaw then sand with a belt sander or bobbin sander for concave shapes. Repeat this process to make several identical styrofoam shapes (to accommodate the width of the plywood), then glue them together. Finally, glue a long length of sandpaper to a flat piece of wood and use this to remove any ridges between the styrofoam pieces. Remember to make the styrofoam wider than the plywood blanks, and the plywood blanks wider than the finished size. Have a look at my video about trimming with the lipping planer to finish the edges of the finished piece. Please subscribe for more videos if you haven’t already. I’ll make one called ‘making styrofoam formers’ at some point soon!
@ssnoyes6 жыл бұрын
I was surprised the foam didn't crush in the vacuum.
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
Scott Noyes it’s really rigid. I buy mine from a supplier who specialises in this process but it would probably work to use a similar product from the builders merchant that is used as insulation. It’s not to be confused with polystyrene which is obviously much less rigid, would collapse around the edges in the bag, and would make quite a mess!
@herbertthecat3 жыл бұрын
How did you cut the radius on the former (is the former foam?)
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
Have a look at this. I share the process in another video, kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqm1c39jbqxofs0
@herbertthecat3 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker Very useful, thank you. I tried laminating some aero ply recently (first time in years). Quite a tight radius, and the ply seperated In the video, do you alternate the ply direction, or is it cross grain? Thans again
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
@@herbertthecat I’ve got all the plywood sheets with the (outside) grain going across the piece. It’s not vital if the ply is very thin. It sounds like your adhesive isn’t curing fully.
@herbertthecat3 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker Maybe my cold workshop didn't help. Might try an electric blanket next time ! thanks for your advise.
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
@@herbertthecat good luck.
@wewwewew6706 жыл бұрын
Nice glue applicator
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
It's really useful. It would be super good if I was batch producing these shapes and didn't need to wash it after each use. It takes a long time to clean if you've been a little lazy and let the glue dry for 10 minutes!
@harrisedgar6 жыл бұрын
Where can I get one? Thank you. (very nice music)
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
Edgar Harris you can get them from airpress.co.uk
@cabrahao5 жыл бұрын
Cool! You have a cat house!
@productdesignermaker5 жыл бұрын
Christovão Abrahão my cat loves it!! 🤣
@scoop43635 жыл бұрын
So, how much glue ended up in the vacuum line?
@productdesignermaker5 жыл бұрын
Scoop there’s no risk of this. Not very much of the adhesive spills out because the dispenser puts down a sensible amount.
@t.t.venkatesh81737 жыл бұрын
Sous vide plywood!
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
Correct. Chanceux, il n'a pas suffoqué!
@gloriarocha88226 жыл бұрын
POR FAVOR, PODERIAM ME INFORMAR QUAL É ESSE TIPO DE MATERIAL QUE VOCÊS USAM???? POOOOOR FAVOOOOR! RSRS ESTOU DESESPERADAMENTE querendo saber. Muitíssimo obrigada!!! No aguardo.
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
Gloria Rocha I get the flexible plywood from airpress.co.uk and bagpress.co.uk. The thin plywood is often available from your local stockist. Thanks for your interest.
@bruceanderson72605 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the glue need air to dry?
@productdesignermaker5 жыл бұрын
bruce anderson no, but it does take longer than when exposed to the air.
@vladimirstevanovic18544 жыл бұрын
So your grains are all in one direction when you bend? How to make a bend in 3D ?
@productdesignermaker4 жыл бұрын
Vladimir Stevanovic I’m using thin plywood, so there is grain going in both directions, however, I’m cutting the wood so that the exposed grain (visible grain) runs across the former.
@vladimirstevanovic18544 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker Ok. Thank you.
@titanfierro3146 жыл бұрын
Presión de vacío ???... Cuántos bares está ???..
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure exactly. This is from the website.... 'dry running, maintenance free vacuum pump (8m3/hr), fitted with vacuum gauge'. www.airpress.co.uk/237-professional-airpress.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6MHdBRCtARIsAEigMxEi7yuYzlp9oUSvsTuixeqHrD6rCU-FwjFnLFy0qHIGC1tfznQi2GgaAu1vEALw_wcB Hope this helps.
@Capnmax4 жыл бұрын
What adhesive are you using?
@productdesignermaker4 жыл бұрын
Just PVA wood glue. See www.bagpress.co.uk for alternatives.
@Capnmax4 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker I've been using Titebond III and found it still wet even after being under vacuum for 36 hours. Any advice for either a different glue or how to expel moisture from the bag? I like Titebond because it's cheaper than epoxy, non-toxic and III has a long open time for complicated glueups.
@productdesignermaker4 жыл бұрын
Capnmax try here www.airpress.co.uk/74-accessories/ and www.bagpress.com/Materials_and_Accessories.html This should help. Best wishes.
@Capnmax4 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker thanks!
@unrelentingtrife31914 жыл бұрын
This was 1997 all over again. Only how it's made without the narrator.
@productdesignermaker4 жыл бұрын
One hell of a year!
@3DMrSharmaji5 жыл бұрын
Which machine used for sucking air
@productdesignermaker5 жыл бұрын
sandeep vishwakarma try www.airpress.co.uk
@adrianperalta71926 жыл бұрын
Quiero saber, no sé que los tipos de maderas flexibles, cómo se llaman aquellos?, please...
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
no creo que tenga un nombre es solo flexible no es lo mismo que la madera contrachapada de abedul. abedul de madera contrachapada se dobla cuando es delgada. curvas de madera contrachapada flexibles, aunque puede ser más grueso.
@MakarovFox3 жыл бұрын
the easy way i will skip the fancy roller for the glue
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a plan!
@MakarovFox3 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker 👍
@mtellis63279 жыл бұрын
Would love to purchase these thin ply layers. I can't find them anywhere in this size. Where can I find them. Thanks
@productdesignermaker9 жыл бұрын
Mt Ellis Hi, sorry I have only just seen your comment. I'm in the UK and use bagpress.com or airpress.co.uk
@sillychilly43088 жыл бұрын
just come across your video and found it very useful I'm also in the UK but can I ask how much was your bag press please?
@productdesignermaker6 жыл бұрын
You could look at bagpress.com or airpress.com The cost depends upon the set up you go for.
@samirpatel93426 жыл бұрын
Jai Swaminayaran
@middleeast30415 жыл бұрын
تم
@toddelliott32395 жыл бұрын
Rugby Sweats! What Club?
@productdesignermaker5 жыл бұрын
Todd Elliott well spotted. Just my school in the UK!
@toddelliott32395 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker Enjoy your tutorials! BTW, my son and I both play rugby. He's heading off to Uni this coming Fall. Cheers.
@productdesignermaker5 жыл бұрын
Todd Elliott awesome. Be great if you get to play for the same team at some point. Great sport!
@toddelliott32395 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker Already happened once in his HS alumni game. I was able to jump in. He played IC, I played where needed, 7 and 8. Cheers.
@rabahatmani17385 жыл бұрын
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@Charlot19143 жыл бұрын
The easy way??
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
If you own a large bag and a reversible vacuum cleaner!
@РудикАлавердян-е9б5 жыл бұрын
Бб
@fernwood3 жыл бұрын
Now make a Möbius strip 😂
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
I just saw your comment pop up on my screen and I had to look up what a mobius strip was.I was about to reply to your comment saying ‘ what a great idea, I’ll get onto that straightaway’, until I saw that you’d commented on my laminating plywood video.I thought you had commented on this more recent video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJCsiWelq7eeaac
@fernwood3 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker that’s so funny! I’ve been binge-watching KZbin from my recommendations feed and watched your Pringles sketch earlier. I didn’t realize both videos are from you! So yeah, actually a sketched Möbius strip would be fantastic to see. As for laminated wood... it was a joke but ever since I commented I can’t stop thinking about ways to do it. Of course there would be seams, which feels like cheating to me even if they were staggered. 🤷♂️
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
@@fernwood haha! Yeah, I’ll definitely sketch some of them and perhaps make a video on it. I might struggle to make one in plywood though 😀
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
Although, did you see my laser cut plywood sheet video? It bends in all directions, so it could work?
@fernwood3 жыл бұрын
@@productdesignermaker I’m sure I’ll get to the video soon - I’m slowly making my way through all your videos!
@PPMOCRG4 жыл бұрын
“The easy way”...if you happen to have a large vacuum forming machine.
@productdesignermaker4 жыл бұрын
Jan M well, that is the downside!
@rmccaba91314 жыл бұрын
Hahaha literally just thought that
@dongledan173 жыл бұрын
I am using this process in a project and I need to know how long this will take. Do you know how long this will take from start to finish?
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
In my example. 2 hours to make the former. 30 mins to cut and prep materials. 15 mins to glue. 6 hours for glue to cure. Done.... then trimming etc.
@ronweber45083 жыл бұрын
I’m looking for the glue that is used to handle the elements of the outdoors. Do you have any idea the type of glue it is and where to get it?
@productdesignermaker3 жыл бұрын
These guys will give you the best answer - www.bagpress.com.
@raferstromme74652 жыл бұрын
Where do you source your wood from?
@productdesignermaker2 жыл бұрын
Are you in the UK?
@FredTmAstur Жыл бұрын
Sorry but that has nothing to do with laminating wood. change the title
@productdesignermaker Жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with laminating wood? Explain
@willclingon1788 ай бұрын
They glued each piece together and put it on a form. Literally the definition of laminating wood. What are you talking about?
@freedomtrailamerica29814 жыл бұрын
Very good video, thank you. I don't understand why youtubers choose repetitive music that stresses us out. Watch your video beginning to end and you'll understand. Just a suggestion.
@productdesignermaker4 жыл бұрын
Teri Williams thanks, but you can’t please everyone!