LAMZU vs. PULSAR: Ergo (XLite v3, Thorn)

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[@Dep973]

excellent review of the shapes, really appreciate your attention to detail on highlighting all the aspects.

[@aqlifsteam8955]

i love how you have your bias but do not let it affect your review. 10/10 would watch another review from you again

[@wheelz79]

I appreciate your very well thought through and explained reasoning! Have a like!

[@lmf22]

Great comparison! I have both and it's hard to decide. I switch between palm and relaxed claw grips, and the Thorn support my palm more. I also like that the Thorn's tilt is not as steep as the Xlite V3, and the button height are the same.

[@CrimsonFangTV]

I managed to grab the v3 for $70 without the dongle, so I’ll take it as fantastic for that price, and mildly competitive for the original price. Excited to try it out!

[@idopizi6844]

Hey, just ordered the Thorn, and was wondering what is your hands size?

[@tim2k74]

nice review!

[@NekoEdit]

I wish you had more relevance and subs, you deserve it.

[@tractor6619]

The slam clicking on my Pulsar is crazy bad, I thought that's my issue only (800dpi 0.75 sens in game CS). Thanks for confirming it's a general issue. On the other hand, my unit has no flicking tbh.

[@fdcendm]

hi, to fix this you have to modify debounce time(ms) to 3, in pulsar software.

[@jodea6099]

17.5x10 cm hands and pincer claw grip, do you recommend Xlite V3 Mini, Medium or Thorn?

[@Curree8]

Medium or thorn

[@NekoEdit]

Which one do you prefer? I have large hands/fingers palm grip. Love the design of the V3 but had a rly bad experience on my V2. Idk if I should switch to Thorn

[@Curree8]

I chose Thorn over v3 Medium but currently enjoying v3 Large over both. I have large hands as well and enjoying palm/claw on large Review coming soon for large, but quality of v3 is way improved over v2. I had both v2 sizes and didnt even make a vid on either cause they were so bad lol

[@NekoEdit]

@@Curree8 V3 Large Non-SE edition right? Over Lamzu Thorn

[@Curree8]

@@NekoEdit So far yes

[@tim2k74]

What Mousepad are you using? I am currently searching for a nice small one that I can also take with me from time to time

[@Ejziponken1]

How is the scroll click on those two units? I experienced that the Xlite v3 required like twice the force to click than Thorn (or any other mice I had). You have the same on yours?

[@Curree8]

Soft actuation on mine, your XLite v3 might be messed up

[@Ejziponken1]

@@Curree8 Alright ty, I already sent mine back, I did order a new one and waiting for it. :)

[@R3APER-350xx]

ive seen some reviews say the fnatic thorn has a better coating, that being said im not a huge fan of it.... you save a little money buying that one anyways if youre wanting to use the 4k polling rate being that its only like 4 dollars more than the standard thorn and the 4k dongle is included

[@user-sr5fu5me1z]

My hand size is 17.5 9 10 and I use palm grip. Would buying pulsar x3 mini be a good choice?

[@Curree8]

maybe medium is better for palm

[@ChessBoxin]

After 6 months of use on the Lamzu Thorn and before that owning both med/mini version of xlite v2 (havent made the jump for v3 or 4k), I personally like the Xilte v2. Its interesting that you get the side wobbles on pulsar. I personally find myself doing that on my Thorn every so often and occasionally right clicking on accident. Also, the relaxed claw grip you mention around 8:45 I can't seem to find myself doing that on my Thorn but able to do it on my Pulsar mice. I personally dont like grips as I feel it changes the shape BUT with them on I was able to move it more in my fingertips alot better on my Thorn. Random note, The Finals was popping 2 months ago when you had posted this! I wish they had updated it sooner and kept their playerbase. I solo que'd to Diamond on medium and eventually just hated the rank system. Anyways, thanks for the post it's always interesting to hear others perspectives when they're also previous Zowie ec2 users :D

[@saint_snow]

I just got the xlite v3 recently to try it out and I also just noticed that it has that stability issue. But the mouse is on sale for 70 on amazon. Kinda want to try the thorn too.

[@Curree8]

@@saint_snow Amazon has a good return policy (30 days no questions asked) if you're not happy with it! I agree pulsar has good shapes but the build needs improvement

[@b4g4b3l]

Any budget mousepad that you could recommand ?

[@Curree8]

GSR SE, Gamesense Radar, Aqua Control+, GSR II

[@stonefist]

what kind of grip tape are you using on the lamzu?

[@Curree8]

pulsar super grips

[@stonefist]

@@Curree8 ty!!

[@yadpreet7454]

I have 19x10 hands, would you say I should go with the thorn fnatic colab for 4k, or go with xlite v3 large for more comfort (I think), and buy the dongle later?

[@Curree8]

I don't think anyone needs the dongle, so its up to you to try both and return one Thorn for more claw, xlite for more palm contact

[@yadpreet7454]

@@Curree8I use relaxed claw, currently on a gpx, but i’m returning that. I’ve done A LOT of research overall market for large mice is: dav3, thorn (kinda), xlite large or a cloud. I just wanna know why you prefer a large xlite over all of those?

[@Curree8]

@@yadpreet7454 Mainly price, honestly I got a new batch GPX2 that's very improved and off ergos for now lol. If you have the money, new coating DAv3 Pro is the best large claw imo. Pulsar XLite v3 sacrifices quality for better overall value.

[@yadpreet7454]

@@Curree8 Yea im on a gpx 2 new batch rn too, just fingerprints suck on black version. And I feel its too small, and I heard complains abt dav3 coating aswell

[@yadpreet7454]

@@Curree8 If I can rma a used dav3 pro, and will razer give me a new batch or a old one?

[@casedum273]

Was thinking about copping the xlite v3 but my x2 v2 mini has been flawless so far.

[@el5pk]

I thought the same but after I got the v3 mini I could tell that there was a slight change to the shape and it feels much better for my relaxed claw grip

[@elrico17]

I have both on hand and still can’t decide! They’re so close but the Thorn is cheaper and comes with spare feet and other goodies. I think I’ll switch between the 2 and decide before the amazon return period runs out lol. Great video, making me leans towards the Thorn now.

[@ronald0122]

Which one did you keep?

[@elrico17]

@@ronald0122 Lamzu Thorn, it’s nice asl!

[@NekoEdit]

I think I'm going with the Lamzu one. Had a Xlite V2 and build quality was... well xD not really durable I guess

[@pogscar2843]

Hey, nice video. I have 17.5 almost 9cm hands and i play on palm grip, mainly cs2 and low sens. Which one would you recommend?

[@Curree8]

Hard to say blindly, maybe pick the shape closest to what you used before (if you've used EC2, then Pulsar, if you used symm, then Thorn)

[@pogscar2843]

@@Curree8 just bought the thorn. Previously used the g305 and never got used to it cause ive always played with my father's office mice which were ergo xd. It should arrive in 2 days, cant wait, finally done with exams as well lol. Thanks for answer tho, keep up the good work:)

[@fwabble]

I use the Thorn and it's wonderful, I used to love Pulsar but they have gone down a bad path

[@shuramixu]

The medium pulsar xlite v3, is it 100% ergonomic? It is my doubt, since in years I have had several mice from other brands that in the end I do not feel any ergonomics and I want to risk buying the pulse, thank you and never again Razer or Logitech

[@Curree8]

@@shuramixu I mean it's definitely not symmetrical, but it's not ergonomic like Logitech vertical mice

[@shuramixu]

@@Curree8 Unfortunately I am not playing shooter for the reason that I use a Logitech G502 Lightspeed, since my hand is medium and after long hours of playing I feel discomfort in my fingers and palm, I have an arm and palm with an intermediate sensibility in games. Sens low, that's why I ask so as not to waste again and buy something that makes me comfortable

[@Curree8]

@@shuramixu Youre probably uncomfortable because you play low sens on a 100g mouse

[@iamclydieCS]

huuhh

[@steveshin820]

I hope these optical mouse switches goes the way of laser sensors. They sound so hollow and aren't nearly satisfying to click as a high quality mechanical switch. One of the main reasons why I'm going either Vaxee or Endgame gear for my next mouse.