LANCE IS AN IDIOT, SERIOUSLY

[@LilKwann]

He literally got his brother killed for drugs

[@aaronoralan5314]

And got his potential sister in law killed by Mendez

[@RomanZ-zy1ef]

No wonder everyone prefers to be alone cause they'll sold you out for various bullshit nowadays in real life

[@miguelpasamano4995]

Tommy should've kept going all Lone Ranger

[@sheriefwoodard8686]

@@aaronoralan5314Didn’t he joke about still wanting Vic’s girl after they both died too?

[@jovexii564]

@@sheriefwoodard8686He was talking about the coke I believe.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

One of the biggest betrayals in GTA history, I was devastated

[@lamaramv1147]

That betrayal is what made GTA Vice City so unforgettable.... something we weren't expecting at ALL

[@3timez]

​@@lamaramv1147😆😆 Exactly. When the betrayal happened I said out loud that I knew something wasn't right about that mf. I just didn't know he was gonna turncoat the moment he did. That sht blew me. ⏸️

[@miguelpasamano4995]

I just didn't think he was like that

[@ddfdfufff9170]

Tommy felt like he was stabbed in da heart

[@ACIron-en6ij]

The betrayal in Vice City is worse thing you have especially you have two biggest enemies(Sonny and Lance) that will take everything from you

[@tundrauzumaki]

If Vic survived the shooting, lance would’ve stayed loyal because Vic always put lance in check.

[@thetr_uth]

I knew lance was full of shxt when I saw him with that high-top fade😂

[@houseofmatrix6174]

😹😹😹😹

[@IYI1299]

I love how this game is still relevant till this day. Rockstar magic

[@IS34PreteristForce]

If Vic had survived and Lance had been taken out at that deal instead, Vic never would have betrayed Tommy.

[@reddsmoke904]

Vic wouldve left the game officially.

[@InsurgentHarbinger]

That’s an interesting theory, but that is only put up into interpretation based on possibilities throughout the game one instance would be the aftermath of the failed bomb detonation in North Point Mall Tommy may would’ve treated Vic not so differently to Lance if the bomb order didn’t work the way they wanted and the distance of trust would’ve been split between the two, Unless it wasn’t Tommy’s intentions to use the bomb at the mall but under orders by Lance. Also Vic may not like Tommy’s idea to dishonorably sabotage their own business in favor for his personal revenge against Sonny this potential act may lead Vic to cut ties considering Tommy’s impulsiveness a potential risk to their business relationship.

[@milutinstankovic4638]

If Vic worked for or with Tommy he would never betray him. He'd totally disagree with Lance

[@InsurgentHarbinger]

@@milutinstankovic4638 not like Vic would make any mistakes since that’s what got Lance into crime in the first place everyone has their own sets of opinions and principles when making choices

[@miguelpasamano4995]

Sonny had the coke and the dollars on his desk when Tommy called after the ambush.

[@donjj8294]

this channel made a video on that topic. still i think there is a bit more to this theory because this channel mentined not all of sonnys plans for vice. he said something like "we let him right on the city, give him a little cash and after a while we check up." not his speach word by word but in my opinion it explains it better than the theory this channel made up in his video @gaminginvestigators

[@miguelpasamano4995]

your paraquote was almost 100% accurate. this channel made no theory up. the cutscene where Tommy called Sonny from the hotel showed the coke and the dollars on Sonny's desk. what's unknown is if the other Forellis knew it but my opinion is no given the fact Sonny is based on Gotti which means the Forellis a.k.a. the Gambettis are based on the Gambinos while the Leones a.k.a. the Pavanos are based on the Geneveses while the Sindaccos a.k.a. the Ancelottis are based on the Columbos. I know this because I 100% completed GTA: VC and GTA: SA on both PS2 and XBox 360 and got all the achievements for GTA 3: DE, GTA: VC: DE, GTA: SA, GTA: SA: DE, and GTA 4.

[@alimohd.53]

​@@miguelpasamano4995 so, it was sonny all along? Or was it lance?

[@miguelpasamano4995]

@@alimohd.53 both stupid

[@jasonkluge8669]

9:18 did you just call that a DVD player? They wouldn't exist for another 10 years give or take. No, that thing was a VCR which damn, I wish a had a working one so I could watch all the original star wars movies again.

[@losdayz2894]

Came to say that😂

[@tovibarfield3486]

Or Betamax

[@LaughWhileItsStillLegal]

Check out 4K77, 4K80 and 4K83. These are 4K scans of the original 35mm tapes and they look awesome.

[@monsterhunter2534]

I always thought of Lance as a grown up baby and vice city stories confirmed it

[@zCREz]

Damn, lance may be a greater antagonist than any of us suspected...

[@redpiller6050]

Sonny would've whacked Lance the minute Tommy was dead. The mafia don't work with snitches or treacherous sellouts as demonstrated in LCS when jd o toole got a 44 in the back of the head. Edit: Should've watched the video in full before making this comment. 😂😂😂

[@gamerfourlife64]

Lance was such an underrated character once you know his full story you can see there was so much more there they could of worked with but rockstar dropped the ball imo

[@aryaamvnpl]

The biggest mistake of Victor was to trust Lance again and again but honestly he was his brother so he kinda trust him but this get him killed and Lance tried same to do with Tommy but he really underestimated him alot. Man I love Victor as a protagonist, a man with morals and, dedication and respect for both his work and loved ones but its was his bad luck that he got a greedy piece of pure sh*t brother

[@wedasantika6079]

Also a bad luck for being assigned to Jerry Martinez on his military days.

[@lilil-liil-ilili5182]

RIP Vance brothers Lance Vance (1946-1986) Victor Vance (1948-1986)

[@kadehamelin9582]

I had a seriously BAD feeling when he gave Tommy the call right there and said: "My Brother would do that." And so on. Come VCS, especially after THAT scene, any remaining sympathy for Lance is cast into the fucking void...

[@sheriefwoodard8686]

Ya know I was kind of doubting this theory at first but I just watched the final cutscene of VCS and I noticed that the final argument Vic and Lance have is after finally freeing themselves and having all the money they need Vic’s first selfless focus is to use his money to look out for his family and take care of Lance, Pete and their mother just for Lance to immediately accuse Vic for only thinking about himself similarly to how he accused Tommy. Vic tries to reassure Lance that he’s thinking about everyone which obviously he is just to have Lance say what’s actually on his mind risking everyone’s safety so he can make more money. Vic gets angry similarly to how Sweet gets angry at Smoke on the fast food mission just for Lance to sleazily deescalate the argument similarly to how Smoke did in San immediately turning face and pretending like he’s no longer interested in the idea he just put out before they ironically end Vic’s tale with him flying with Lance in a helicopter

[@RottenEnt757]

I feel like Lance started to see his brother in Tommy, and he wasn't about to be treated like a shmuck again so he betrayed.

[@Bediverecs]

I think it was actually stated in the game that Tommy is similar to Vic

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

What I didn't understand is if he was insulted why didn't he say anything?

[@silentecho92able]

Lance was too sensitive about the topic of being treated like a little kid. Even by his brother Vic, Lance has to much inflated pride and Ego to admit, anything in that regard even to Tommy. For him in his mind, he thinks that everyone simply look down on him or insult him, or what he perceives to be the case. As Lance is just so damn immature.

[@B1ngu5]

@@TihetrisWeathersby he did to Tommy. A lot of times

[@gftyhify]

There is zero chance the Sonny would’ve taken Lance under his wing if Tommy was killed. I mean Sonny tried to have Tommy killed when Tommy was 100% loyal whereas Lance made it clear he was willing to betray to get something better. I wouldn’t want someone like that working for me

[@InsurgentHarbinger]

This is nonsense. Lance's willingness to betray for personal gain makes him a more valuable asset in the criminal world as he might have saw Tommy as being a liability to his life by dishonoring his goals, not giving the proper care that he needed so he saw the opportunity to betray as a valid alternative, since he already may have known that Tommy was planning to betray judging by the phone call that he wasn’t giving him a fair slice which he could refer to the money safe thinking he wasn’t willing to share, this can contribute in Cap The Collector he assist on sabotaging his business for the Forelli’s and Sonny would've gladly taken him under his wing if given the chance. And here's a little tidbit that people often overlook: In one of the Vice City missions (Messing with the Man), Tommy admits that he worked with a family in the past but it didn't work out. Raising doubts about his loyalty from the start. It seems like he has a history of not sticking with a group, which could undermine the claim that he was always loyal to Sonny and the Forelli’s.

[@alexferrana3979]

@@InsurgentHarbinger No one likes traitors. JD O'Toole is a proof of that in LCS.

[@InsurgentHarbinger]

@@alexferrana3979While it’s true that nobody likes a traitor a manipulator and liar is a lot worse, which is what Tommy actually was. Lance’s reasons to betray are still somewhat valid because it was an act of self preservation towards his life’s future because if he had still worked with Tommy, he would only be a slave to him doing the dirty work he didn't want to do and may eventually die in the crossfire, regardless. He had good reasons to change sides after realizing Tommy was manipulating Sonny's mafia solely for money. Lance’s reason to betray may have been self centered but you wouldn’t blame him if you were in his shoes honestly Lance didn’t wanna become a part of crime any longer it is mostly Vic’s fault that he’s in this situation. in the case of JD O’Toole, JD didn’t have any reason to betray.

[@muvdafukupouttahere]

​@@InsurgentHarbinger Perhaps you are naïve on how the Mafia works. When you switch side with another Mafia gang, the aforementioned families will whack you since they don't allow traitors to be recruited, which is why JD got whacked in the first place. In Lance's case, he was being an impulsive idiot. First off, he botched up Tommy's plan to kill Diaz by jumping the gun early and disregarding Tommy's demands to just let him plan this meticulously. You can't seriously just sit there and tell me that Tommy didn't have a reason to call Lance out in that moment. Secondly, in Bar Brawl, Lance was just sitting there and drinking without even budging an inch out of his seat to help Tommy destroy a bar too intimidate the owners into paying for protection, and again, Tommy rightfully calls Lance out for being too lazy to handle it. I'm sorry, I missed the part where you claim Lance wanted a fair slice. Lance needs to do the dirty work if he wants a fair slice. And then he complains about being criticized for his impulse. Yes, I would totally blame Lance for that. Also, what are you talking about it was Vic's fault he was in the crime business? Did you even play VCS at all? When Lance was first introduced in that game, Vic clearly told him he wants nothing to do with him since he doesn't trust Lance. Lance was the one who suggested he and Vic team up as criminal partners, and Lance was the one who got Vic into deeper shit in almost every mission he appeared in. VIC was the one who didn't wanted to become a part of crime any longer. Talking about it's Vic's fault Lance was in the situation. You're getting it backwards.

[@waters228_91]

​@@InsurgentHarbinger You're out of your mind if you think Lance being in the criminal life was Vic's fault. Clearly, you did not play VCS. Vic wanted nothing to do with Lance in the beginning since Lance had gotten Vic into a bunch of trouble in the past, as Vic prescribed. Every predicament the brothers got into was Lance's fault, and Vic kept on telling him that he wanted nothing to do with the crimes. You got it all backwards, dude. Yes, we can totally blame Lance. Because Tommy had given him a chance to actually do the work with him, yet Lance decided to sit back and let Tommy do the dirty work himself while expecting a "fair slice" at the same time, as shown in the cutscene of Bar Brawl. Plus the Mafia gang never, ever recruits traitors, and if you actually did any real research on the Mafia hierarchy, you would know why JD was whacked in GTA LCS. You are a blind fanboy if you really believe Lance was innocent through all this.

[@mr_leavell]

SAY GOODNIGHT MR. DIAZ!

[@miguelpasamano4995]

Ernest says, for a raging lunatic, we're pretty naive.

[@OldeSchoolTrucking]

You're*

[@miguelpasamano4995]

Did you see any quotation marks in my comment? No. When we play, we become Tommy. I said nothing inaccurate. You'll act accordingly and get the Hell off my comment!

[@OldeSchoolTrucking]

@@miguelpasamano4995 Who are you talking too? I also see that you got butthurt over a simple grammar error.

[@ArcyGoldenSnowTV]

​@@OldeSchoolTruckingYet you corrected nothing cause he wasn't quoting as Tommy 🤡

[@miguelpasamano4995]

@@OldeSchoolTrucking who do you think I'm talking to? I'll tell you who I'm talking to. I'm talking to a troll who wore out his welcome on my comment! There was also no grammar error except that which is in your imagination.

[@WhatYouRidinTV]

Nah what i dont understand is the initial introduction of Lance and Tommy, as he was dropping tommy off back at the hotel he uttered “Ill be watching you tommy” but my thing is Tommy never introduced himself to Lance which had me believe that lance was apart of sonny plan whole time, however thats one lore i cant link together

[@kagekun1198]

I'd say it was Sonny that sabotaged the deal, not Diaz. Later when Sonny calls Tommy to scream at him for the botched deal, you see a open briefcase of snow and stacks of money on the table. Circumstantial but Sonny had no idea what to do with Tommy

[@youngtattedgoon]

No lie as a kid I noticed lance inside of the helicopter in the beginning of the game. Made me think he was the one who set the whole thing up 💯

[@Klagerfeld12]

It's just a video game all characters are fictional but I simply can't feel any empathy towards Lance Vance. Victor always had to get Lance out of dangerous situations and take care of him and I don't see him doing anything useful for Vercetti.. from the player's perspective in every mission, Tommy ends up killing more enemies than Lance, it might be even harder to protect him than to kill everyone he is a burden in both games. Yes his backstory is dark, his mom is a cokehead but he betrayed his brother and then betrayed Tommy. the only thing I ever see him doing good is flying helicopters. for someone who likes power and money so much, he could make his own gang or something idk (but then again he would get killed the same day lol) he was doomed to day anyway as the forellis would kill him à la JD O Toole and they only accept pure blood in their family

[@lamaramv1147]

Forelli would've killed him the moment Lance succeeded in Killing Tommy and not just because he isn't a Forelli by blood but because he was a traitor...Mafia do associate with people who they are not related to by blood They just don't work with traitors

[@tempestfennac9687]

Adding to the JD comparison, Sonny would also have to wonder whether Lance would turn on him in the future (he's probably not aware that Lance's primary reason for turning on Tommy is being salty about Tommy shouting at him for not doing his job but it would seem likely that Lance could turn on the Forellis in the future being as he's already shown a willingness to betray a friend).

[@lucky1954]

Not just a game

[@rohanthunukale7622]

its just a game, but keep i mind that most forms of storytellings suck nowadays except a lot of video games, and video games are still discarded as "just a game"

[@KollinPorkChop]

Never trust a man that walks around in his pajamas.

[@miguelpasamano4995]

I just didn't think he was like that.

[@KollinPorkChop]

@@miguelpasamano4995 for a raging lunatic, you're pretty naive.

[@marcuswellington5866]

Which is pretty funny because we just found out that lance was older then Vic it go's to show that some times just because your older dose not make you mature

[@Jean-ClaudeGodDamn]

VCS made me hate him

[@user-gv8dq2tl3d]

Me too

[@lukethomas6900]

Same here

[@MarcioSilva-fk1hq]

The only good thing about Vance on said game is his iconic "Lance Vance Dance".

[@InsurgentHarbinger]

If he wasn’t portrayed as a clumsy idiot in that game and only strictly follow orders of what Vic tells him to do then he would’ve been a seen as a smarter character.

[@Not_Gangsta]

When I was Young when Lance said I want my brothers "white lady" I thought he meant Louise!

[@captainsmartass3368]

Can we get a Vic Vance video

[@alifnajmi1997]

I know that Lance is full of poop (I used the substitute word for s..t) and he's just Over The Top Junkie who doesn't work at all and gloating all the credit and glory if there's something successful happens (Such as Vic's career as Successful Criminal and Tommy's Vice City Takeover). Fun Facts: Tommy and Vic done all of those without any Lance's help since he never that helpful at all

[@lilil-liil-ilili5182]

The Vance brothers Lance as the older brother Victor as the younger brother

[@milutinstankovic4638]

What about Pete?

[@lilil-liil-ilili5182]

@@milutinstankovic4638 Pete? Well I think he's older than both Lance and Vic

[@milutinstankovic4638]

@@lilil-liil-ilili5182 or younger

[@muvdafukupouttahere]

@@lilil-liil-ilili5182 Vic is the older brother of him and Lance.

[@lilil-liil-ilili5182]

No, Lance is older than Vic.

[@miguelpasamano4995]

Sonny, Diaz, and Lance set Vic and Tommy up!

[@Linogiven-O]

Imagine playing vice city by lance🤩

[@reddsmoke904]

11:42 how he pistol whipped him for shooting Tommy 😂😂😂

[@yamato126]

to be honest i thank VIC was approaching suicidal at the end of vcs losing his mom to drugs with his drugs losing his one true love losing his career and losing his brother whos mentally lost who probably wanted to kill vic poor guy probably would rather be dead.

[@jaysteele6356]

How Lance betrayed Tommy the first time I played the final mission, really had me like "this punk mothafucka" 😒

[@tundrauzumaki]

Personally I don’t think lance set up Vic because despite Vic belittling him at times, I doubt he was clever enough to set up his own brothers death nor would he jus sit back & watch his own brother gets capped right in front of his eyes like that

[@Seacrest.]

I love how Tommy wiggles his eyebrows

[@Shhdhe525]

🤨 you mean this

[@lukelee7967]

Um, that's very far from what a communist is. Lance, wanting to not work and get credit. Seems more like a business owner, so a capitalist.

[@stlfatman]

My thoughts exactly.

[@Chicken_Wing91]

Or how about he just wants everything handed to him without doing the work to earn it?

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

​@@Chicken_Wing91like Nepo babies?

[@lonewanderer2797]

​@@stlfatmanhe doesn't want to do anything, sits at the bar doing nothing, others do the hard work (Tommy and Victor) and he wants to earn from it.He might not believe in communism but that fits the description pretty well. Living off the work of others while doing nothing.

[@eugeneturner7520]

It was just a joke?

[@bludluva]

As a kid I was amazed at how different lance started acting once he and Tommy took over. Never saw a character in a movie or game about crime act so whiny and entitled. I think I found his writing funky, but overall it fits into the world of vice city

[@TDOTSE1]

Wow can't remember all of this happening in the game maybe i was too young 😂

[@jonathantorresgonzalez3415]

The only time where Lance showed intelligence was in the mission "Turn on, Tune in, Bug out" where he was looking around his apartment and Victor walks in to chastise. Lance keeps telling him to keep his voice down, Victor isn't listening to him only for Lance to lash out: "WILL YOU SHUT UP, YOU STUPID GORILLA?! THE PLACE IS BUGGED! THE DEA IS ONTO US! HAPPY NOW?!" Best line ever. Christ was this mission annoying! And to top it all off, we get $300 upon completion! $300 F**KING DOLLARS!!!!😠😠😠😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬

[@RomanZ-zy1ef]

So all this time it was Lance boy who did it im speechless he killed his own flesh and blood no wonder everyone prefer to be alone nowadays even siblings will turn on each other

[@DavidWill-d1o]

Yep I finished the GTA vc de like 2 weeks ago and found out even the original says it all 😮

[@Linogiven-O]

Lance plans a complex dominancy like plan.😮😮.Victor ➡ diaz ➡ tommy ➡ sonny.

[@Itsgotahemi]

I hope you never stop finding things to talk about in GTA

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Lance was always the problem in technicalities because Vice City Stories he got his brother deep in the drug game the actual Vice City he thought you were cutting him out probably because of his addiction to coke and ended up working for the man who probably hired the men to kill his brother if the mission would not fail I would do him in as Tommy right after we get to the non licensed white Ferrari Lance was driving at the beginning

[@TysonEmmy]

Make a Video on Tommy , He is all our childhood and beloved character.

[@Murasaki1357]

I have to admit though, Lance really is an idiot. But Lance is one of the best and most charismatic characters. I'm sad that he betrayed Tommy at the end.

[@TayRich93]

I remember seeing that when I was younger I was like YOU MF!😂

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

I love when you use language that fits the series remember gangster and mobster sim games should be anti pc

[@yannmauricemassembenoun2787]

For me Lance was just the most useless prick Vice-city ever knew. The thing is that dude is just lazy as fuck and for easy money, dude is ready ti sacrifice everything

[@brandonethereal1084]

Lance, Lamar, Evan, Brian, Curly Bob, have got to the biggest airheads in the GTA series smh

[@Predators--cz2fb]

I could see Lance screwing up and getting his brother killed but couldn’t see him being that clever. Lance as a bit of a dumb ass. Now I could see him being PERSUADED by somebody much bigger like Ricardo Diaz to be involved in a set up to kill Vic.

[@adamusso_tk]

I liked Lance a lot, i was heartbroken by his betrayal

[@imwaytogoodlookingtobeyour1188]

What u said in beginning of video is what I said in one of your videos a very long time ago...tommy does more work....like the helicopter mission on rooftops and then gets dropped off to finish the rest off

[@Spartak2811]

Could be the GTA universe better, Vice City cleaner, Victor alive and we, fans, happier, if Janet Vance have had an abortion before Lance started to exist? It could be a huge favour to us and there could be a peace in almost whole GTA universe!

[@fred-s7e]

Lance is still one of the best gta characters and voice actors in the series

[@DLTX-pt9lz]

damn.. Victor aged terribly in 2 yeahrs... i know which game launched first, but still...

[@darkcloud93]

it wasn't lance the one who pull the shooting in the exchange, it was sunny, you can see in the phone call cutscene that in his desk he have the money and the drugs, he just wanted to get rid of tommy

[@domasavpedzivin]

*Santino hence "Sonny"*

[@Asim_mangi]

Lance is what CJ would've become if sweets predictions were right

[@johnbelwell2461]

Lance is a very fine character but turned greedy, he ended up on coke and tries to catch up with having money and being out of action his whole life and this caused him get out of control, this is something that happens in real life too. I would be with Lance's side instead of Tommy if Lance hadn't partnered with Sonny, because Tommy isn't better and in fact he is worst than Lance as he was greedy too and determined into shady business whereas Lance was an opportunist.

[@Fooooobar]

Vic fell off so bad, he went from physically fit to some old out of shape dude in the neighborhood.

[@Minchken]

Lance getting his brother killed? No way. I can see him betraying Tommy, which was painful, but his own brother, no way, man!

[@3timez]

I never played VCS.. so for the ppl who did.. did yall play that game with an animosity towards Lance..after seeing what transpired in VC??

[@petelike2024]

Clearly. But that's worse in VCS. You should play it though you can get it for free.

[@antonMustermann-y9h]

Isn't it kinda suspicious how often he mentions Ninjago?

[@ortodogge]

To be honest, you don't have a single evidence to support anything of what you have said. Just because Diaz shared the fact that he killed his brother doesn't mean that Lance did the same. From the beginning Lance was very open with Tommy about the fact that he's going to avenge his brother by killing Diaz, it didn't come out of nowhere, it was their plan all along. Otherwise there would be no reason for Lance to follow Tommy in the beginning of the game, since he would be too busy taking over town with Diaz, as you suggested. The whole reason Lance and Tommy met was because they were looking for the hitmen who busted the deal. If anything, death of Vic seems to hit Lance very hard. It was confirmed by the fact that he was so impatient to attack Diaz and that he was spending his days drinking. In your video you're making Lance look like an evil manipulative mastermind, but a person like that would never attack Diaz on his own. Lance was clearly sincere in his emotions, that's why he risked his own life instead of using Tommy. You're also saying that Tommy does "90% of work", but we have no idea if that's the case or not. For all we know, Tommy did just three missions for their whole protection racket enterprise. Lance was probably the one who recruited the gang, seized territory and handled day-to-day operation. That's why every time Tommy visits the mansion he finds Lance in the middle of doing business. And yet we call it "Vercetti Mansion" and not "Double V Mansion". Lance was indeed due his fair slice. Lance is a very flawed person, but he's also capable when it's needed and clearly goes through depression and grief through the events of Vice City. He is an emotional trainwreck, that's for sure, but he's no cold blooded manipulative evil mastermind.

[@tundrauzumaki]

I’m saying bro, prolly the only person who understood lance in the comments.. ain’t no way he jus sat by and watch his own brother gets smoked and not feel anything about it

[@flaimthrowerzatwes19]

Tommy literally does everything in the story to purchase empires and protection rackets, the player literally does many of the missions in the game, and you're claiming there's no proof? What more has to be displayed when there's everything about Tommy that we've seen in the story? When did we see Lance recruit any gang members or seize any territories in the story? This is why "Show, Don't Tell" is important here.

[@ortodogge]

​@@flaimthrowerzatwes19 Tommy did a lot of missions for Cubans, Haitians, Bikers, Love Fist, Taxi Company and Porn Studio. For their operation with Lance he did exactly three missions, three. And two of them were given to him by Lance. If anything, it supports the idea that Lance was running things while Tommy was chilling in the studio with some major artists. Nothing suggests that Lance didn't put his work. There's a reason why their gang didn't support Tommy in the final missions.

[@flaimthrowerzatwes19]

@@ortodogge It really doesn't. In two of those three missions, Tommy was the one who did the hard work himself. He was the one alone who intimidated the people out in the mall to let them know that he runs the town now. In the second mission, Tommy was the one who did the work to intimidate the local bars to pay while in the same mission, Lance was just lazing around and expected Tommy to do the job. The only time Lance was shown doing anything following Diaz's murder was in the mission Cop Land, and even then, Tommy was more useful there. So no, Lance wasn't running a damn thing, and none of those aforementioned missions were given to Tommy. They were made by Tommy himself. That's why "Show, Don't Tell" plays an important part of any story.

[@ortodogge]

​@@flaimthrowerzatwes19 You don't understand how this works. You should follow the plot carefully. When Tommy does four missions for InterGlobal Studio and multiple movies are done, do you think he was the one handling day to day filming? Of course not, it was done by Steve Scott. When Tommy does three missions for Kaufman Cabs and it starts profiting, do you think he's the one running day to day business? No, it was Doris. Same with the protection ring. Three missions wouldn't be enough to set it up. Tommy never recruited the gang or taxed the bars on Ocean Drive for example, yet we see that it's the part of the operation. It means that Lance runs it in Tommy's abscense. That's why Lance is the one who gives him the missions and explains what's going on. Play the game again and listen to the dialogues this time, it will become obvious.

[@ChaddaticGamedev]

Lance is what sweet thought carl was

[@uverpro3598]

I think they ruined the lore and mystery with Vice City Stories. It wasn’t a coherent prequel.

[@domasavpedzivin]

*Lance's behaviour was suspicious from the beginning of the game /VC/ hence "I'll be watching you Tommy" to the end " I'm sorry Tommy, this is Vice City, this is business"* *, which leads me to think that he was a spineless scum ready to even sacrifice his own Brother* *Then after "Rub Out" Tommy receives a phone call from Sonny in which the following words drop : "...Oh my fault is it? , Well I've heard you been busy all right. Busy killing drug barons, Busy taking over. Don't forget about us , Tommy , 'cause I can assure you , I ain't forgotten about you."*

[@metehansoyturk493]

To be honest we can never surely know if these Theories are true because Rockstar most likely won't confirm or talk about the Story Details of both games being already 18 and 22 years old but to be honest i think they could be realistic theories Lance's Mistakes got Vic into a lot of Trouble already in VCS , i think in that game especially Vic's Bond to Louise was important if you think about it , Vic got himself dishonorbily discharged from the Army due to Martinez who ordered him to bring weed and later on even a Hooker ..to the fucking Base , he had thanks to Martinez a connection to Phil though and got to Marty and with that got to Louise, if you think about it Louise was sort of Vic's Hope for something peaceful in Vice City maybe even a Potential Girlfriend after killing Marty , my guess for the fallout wasn't just because she was taking coke with lance making vic think they hooked up , i think that sort of made Vic get angry because he sort of wanted a Relationship with her , taking care of her child and Lance probably knew it and ripped it from him despite all that This was one of many Mistakes Lance did , others being for example the Coke Incident with the Helicopter where we have to pick them up driving with that shitty ass Airfilled Boat which can drive on water and roads ( sorry forgot the Name of that piece of shit vehicle and i hated that Mission) In VCS Lance showed not really one tiny bit of caring about his older brother because he basically disobeys every tip Vic gives him amd gets them in a near death situation everytime or something emotionally crushing like with the Louise incident In Vice City it doesn't stop , Lance jumping the gun trying to take out Diaz alone despite Tommy's Idea to let it wait until Diaz trusts them more , being lazy and drinking instead of getting the bar he was ordered to make them pay protection money and then even in the after sometime complaining to Tommy on the phone , Tommy even said in that phone call that Lance made a mistake and that he can take a few days off and in case Tommy makes Mistakes that he can rip into him about it , Tommy gave especially with that another chance to Lance even gave him a bit more Authority because which Crime Boss lets his Men or let alone his "Assistant" or let me call it "Second in Command" call him out on Mistakes he does ? Lance shows his incompetence with every single Mission and always wants the most earning for next to no work If i can think of a sort of dream Scenario no matter how much it alters the Story it would been Vic either killing himself after Martinez and Mendez to sort of avenge her death and get out of the constant trouble and to join her in the afterlife ... or Louise continues to Live with Vic after getting rid of Martinez and Mendez , after getting out of the Crime , Lance then going alone or with another Partner to the Deal where the Partner gets killed and then the Story unfolding like it did with VC did killing Lance and Sonny in the end

[@GoblinKing805]

I think lance in vice city was supposed to be mysterious and a good partner to Tommy til he starts slippin before and after Diaz death. And we get to see a two face cut throat. In vice city stories I think lance was a dumbass but we seen it thru a brotherly pov. The only connection I see between both lance’s is the laziness, lance was a hard head , and idiot Vic can’t trust him with a simple task and Tommy can’t trust lance with a simple task. But lance turning his back on Tommy could had been a repeat , like he did with his brother but lance wouldn’t kill his brother bc lance needed him. I think at the end lance knew his brother was gone and tried cutting tommy out , trying to be the man , but even Vic knew in vc stories lance isn’t cut out for it.

[@TayRich93]

I wonder who will betray our characters in gta 6 and in mafia old country

[@sheriefwoodard8686]

Idk Lance is a pretty incautious person it’s not out of character at all for him to assume things are gonna go smoothly so him staying in the chopper isn’t that sus as he was the pilot. I also think that Diaz would’ve questioned Lance for angrily yelling “this is for my brother!” if Lance had set him up but this still isn’t an implausible theory

[@brandonrainone6292]

I was in shocked Lance sold out Tommy.

[@henrytruong2596]

This theory is highly possible.

[@alexferrana3979]

That theory make sense.

[@voltex9157]

11:50 will do anything for money, expect the thing that he actually have to do

Tommy is not a psychopath

[@joncarlos716]

People always talk about karma but is it really karma or is it that people just don’t want to change and repeat the same mistakes in their life over and over again. Until one day something actually changes for the worse part of their life.

[@draesynesofficial]

Ngl this is a stretch bro

[@hades1696]

Hubson, tym razem trochę cię poniosło XD

[@darrenrichards3100]

Just ripped into Lance Vance, my goodness. I always liked his style and swagger

[@GamingTown-fj1yt]

Make video on gta vice city every individual that are not on story meaning local people

Lance is a sociopath

[@syedahmed131]

Nice analogy

[@Samsara_Jack]

In the whole day, the last thing i would have expected to hear is someone calling Lance Vance a "Communist" lmao.

[@S.C.F_FG_42]

Thats capitalist 0:14 communist is reverse expecting more with little pay or non at all

[@nimrodkipyator4485]

Yeah if so why did he want to kill Diaz after explaining he's reason to be Diaz capping his brother and why did he want to be associated with Tommy taking over Diaz operations

[@HelalMoon235]

Wait what happened to the voice.

[@SirSwoo]

Just not as much meat on GTA V. Hopefully they expand and have some of the past characters come back and give a little more depth...like they did with Johnny, or more death in his case😅

[@Suave_Mahvv]

Aye I mess with this channel but did he just say “he sent his ninjas”? 😳😳

[@ruthwayne8320]

Lance killed his bro most definitely... To the point where he wanted a piece of every business he owned and he did nothing for their progress... I mean at least he could have been a pizza boy😅... He was so jealous that if you're not careful you'll forget a business to buy because he wanted to set you up so bad😂

[@johnbzn6508]

This is great keep on doing videos like this. This is gold.

[@donaldcapomolla911]

If robin was black.

[@konuralpyldzkan1495]

i disagree with you on vance family. viktor is more of an idiot than lance and he blames lance when the things get wrong because of viktor's stupidity

[@MistahJay7]

So he's even a bigger Snake lol

[@tavellclinton9256]

Lance Vance Dance? Or maybe Lance Vance Dunce?

[@RennanDeMatos]

"a communist that expected good money for little afford" I don't think you now what communism is my mano🤣

[@villeschc]

9:16 VCR!

[@mr_witchhunter]

He's like, 16, what do you want from him? 😂

[@lagomorphine]

He was a successful Fredo

[@chrisschreier8433]

So ultimately Lance was just a huge POS and got what he had coming to him at the end of the game.