Land Rover Defender VS Suzuki Jimny - The Full Challenge | Fifth Gear

Jimmy and Jonny find out where’s best to put your money if you’re after a capable but affordable off-roader. A brand new Suzuki Jimny, or a second hand Land Rover Defender? Taken from episode two of Series 28 of Fifth Gear. For access to exclusive Fifth Gear content and all FULL episodes, join our channel / @fifthgearuk
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[@Gemuk-man637]

The only thing Suzuki driver needs to remember is to change the M-oil, oil filters, air filter and brake pads while the LR driver needs to memorized several tow-trucks phones.

[@dixon296]

If you just use it locally you only need one

[@nikoweindel1198]

So the Land Rover's pulling power is superior because Johnny can't reverse a trailer? Are you serious???

[@Maurice_Moss]

The towing capacities speak for themselves. Jimny 1300kg defender 3500kg. In the real world no one is going to tow a horse box with a Jimny.

[@daleboyd8010]

@@Maurice_Moss the Jimmy looks wierd with a trailer and it has a lower towing capacity than my 20 year old TDI golf

[@beaviccoon470]

So if you want a cheap tow vehicle then go for a Dacia duster or if you can find a defender for a reasonable price then go for that

[@russcattell955i]

@@Maurice_Moss Except maybe the owner of a Shetland pony ?

[@chrispbacon3042]

“This is a hand built car” is just another way of saying it is going to fall apart.

[@Jeffybonbon]

The Jimmy is more of a Defender than the new Defender will ever be

[@Mk1Male]

The Jimmy might be but is doesn't exist? Let us know your experience of driving both the Jimny and new Discovery to compare them 👍

[@harveysmith100]

@@Mk1Male Your picking him up on his spelling and then you called the new Defender a Discovery? Or was that Freudian because the new Defender is actual just a re-bodied Discovery?

[@matthewgodwin3050]

To be fair, my toaster is more of a Defender than the new Defender. It's a lovely Discovery, but that's all it is.

[@TheFlyingClutchman]

I think the most amazing thing about the jimny is that it is 4wd, has a low range gearbox and still weighs almost as little as a miata.

[@ConquerDriving]

Second test has nothing to do with pulling power, it's parking skill! I think the Jimny would have won that if he parked it successfully.

[@Maurice_Moss]

No it wouldn't, a Jimny legally wouldn't even be allowed to tow a horse box, since its towing capacity is only 1300kg, compared to 3500kg of the defender.

[@TheFlyingClutchman]

@@Maurice_Moss in what world is a horse back of that size gonna weigh more than the Jimmy itself???

[@Maurice_Moss]

@@TheFlyingClutchman do you understand how towing capacities work?

[@alittlecrinkley232]

@@Maurice_Moss even so that test was all about skill

[@beaviccoon470]

A Jimmy is actually aloud to tow a horse box as a horse box like that probably weights 800kg or there about. So you can carry a pony and a horse box with the Jimmy but a horse might be pushing it a bit, unless you go for the smallest horse box available from ifor Williams by which point you might just about be able to tow a horse and trailer with the jimny.

[@morgan5324]

I wanted to see the Suzuki go through the water 😂

[@boy638]

I'm guessing it would float

[@the_freedom_quest]

Me too, thumbs down

[@morgan5324]

@@the_freedom_quest I know! They were going on about how good it is but then didn't go through the water

[@morgan5324]

@@boy638 it probably would

[@gavinsumesh9661]

But it can

[@patrickarchibald6787]

We have a saying in Australia. If you want to go to the outback, drive a Land Drover. If you want make it back, drive a LandCruiser.

[@protestagain]

As we say it here, near the North Pole. If you have a proper outroader, you need a proper tractor to get it loose.

[@accio4260]

Buy Toyota, its always a good choice

[@martycrush6412]

Where is the Toyota in this video?? Those Suzuki’s are brilliant. Work on a shooting estate and among the 25 odd land rovers and 15 or so Toyota hilux’s there are two of these, do everything the others do and just get on with it, absolutely love them and would buy one in a heartbeat if I didn’t have access to so many vehicles.

[@mrcvry]

Patrick Archibald Check out Seriously Series and Roaming The Outback. 😉 Both need good maintenance to be reliable.

[@spaghettguy]

@Mr. Cairo in that Case you're very lucky, or you just have newer models, our 2001 discovery has had about 6 things wrong with it since we bought it a year ago, the repairs have cost the same amount we spent on the car (roughly £2500)

[@harveysmith100]

Can I just point out, not to do the water depth check like that in Africa or Australia.

[@notroll1279]

Morale of the story: If you make reversing a trailer into a garage part of a race, do some practicing before. That lost the Suzuki the whole competition...

[@martinlyhagen6166]

But the defender is a better car doing that because of it's longer wheelbase.

[@joeycourtice4157]

A good 4x4 test should include suspension travel, flex, water crossing capabilities, camping capabilities etc

[@anthonygenovese7578]

Come on. 28 mpg ain't that bad! Especially for a giant house brick on wheels

[@robertdrawdy3749]

28 is amazing for an offroad vehicle

[@chrishart8548]

28mpg About the same as a ford transit. Was even the same engine at one point. And the weight is similar. As is the brick inspired aero dynamics

[@dexterrr9163]

Thats little bit better than my 2010 corolla in the city

[@stokesy887]

28mpg is mighty good in my opinion

[@afonsopereira1990]

Two good offroaders. But the Defender is an Icon and if you sell it some years after it Will still be worth a lot of cash.

[@Martyntd5]

I bought my 90 county hard top 14 years ago and it's the only car I've ever owned where I actually stand a real chance of getting back more or less what I paid for it.

[@philiprandall1399]

Check the current price of Jimneys. Used cars are going for up to £7000 over list, currently.

[@timoliver8940]

Just like the old Defender you cannot buy a new Jimny anywhere in Europe now, maybe they should have compared their values too. I own both a 1996 Defender 90 and a 2020 110 First Edition, the new one might be detested by many but I can assure you it is a very very capable motor and maybe 5th Gear should have pitted one against the other two.

[@chrishart8548]

A tidy 1983 defender is still worth a fair bit at 37 years old don't see 10 years making much difference too the price. If anything when it's 40years old it's tax and mot exempt. The price will go up. As long as the chassis is good the age is almost irrelevant

[@standelasanantone2180]

As its a so-so vehicle --- someone tell me why older Defenders are so damn expensive...???!!! (The reversing into the garage bit was more about the driver's ability than the vehicle.)

[@kokoscom]

Both cars are competent, its just a matter in how much you want to abuse/destroy your car . Therefore get the cheapest 4WD car that you can so you will not really care about its condition!

[@ronactive]

Jimny is a cool car.

[@weevilinabox]

Jimmy, with his trousers off, "I'm just gonna ease it in, Jonny."

[@alain-danieltankwa8007]

I respect u for not forcing the the Jimmy into the lake

[@0foxgiven]

Brits letting a land Rover lose? Lol nah

[@MrHugawa]

a fun video, but not totally realistic... appears to have messed up reversing on purpose & a snorkel would solve some of the water depth issues in the Suzuki but you would have to toss out the interior after crossing. I love that Defender and would take that any day over the Jimny. thx for the video

[@smoothmicra]

Yeah, the Defender got across the lake but I hope he had it Waxoyled to death, those old buses don't need an excuse to rust.

[@OverlandTT]

Was this ever on tv?

[@300bhpton]

How does 5th Gear manage to keep getting worse and worse with poor info, nonsense and misinformation?

[@loganecholls2739]

In OZ, we put a wheat bag or a small tarpaulin across the front. Then drive through without stopping. The tarp pushes the water in front of the vehicle and prevents the water from coming up high enough to flood the electrics. The Jimny would have romped it in through the water. The reversing test was up to driver skills, not the vehicle. All in all, I think the Jimny acquitted itself quite well.

[@davidcollins2258]

I agree, but you'd want diff and trans breathers too...

[@zagman51]

Quietest Defender I’ve ever heard and I won one. And no rust, no leaks, no append tarnishing, after market seats, etc - not a typical s/h Defender!! But I still love them.

[@markone4191]

at the end - me getting an evil landy laughter 😂😂😂

[@clooperman3745]

Have owned a Defender 90" Td5 and a new Jimny, both have pros and cons, off the showroom floor the old Defender is better offroad, downhill engine breaking in the Jimny is very poor, a lot worse than my mates old petrol SIII Land Rover and that is a lot heavier, suspension articulation on the defender is better and it is just a lot more robust, the Jimny is more civilised inside, a bit more economical and has air con! For heavy offroading it's the old Defender, for light offroading and lots of road use it's the Jimny.

[@frankmlchaelglasscock6539]

It depends how deep your pockets are I like them both

[@stephaneg]

Next compare a Renault and a Bentley...

[@davidcollins2258]

I agree. Completely unfair to the defender having to try and match it with a Jimny.

[@fauzanriez9472]

First car show in the world with the presenter wearing underwear.

[@PaletoB]

What? EDIT: Aaaa now I see...what can't be unseen

[@floppychzcake7936]

Let's face it, the Jimny isn't really meant to be all bashed up and abused. It's an entry level offroader but a damn good one. It can probably compete somewhere with the newer defender and new ford bronco. The old Defender really only has one true competetor and that was the one it was built to compete with. The Jeep.

[@MrELIAN602]

Awesome......set up

[@OS-hx4jk]

Undisputed champ? You mean when it is working? Even so, heard of the Toyota Landcruiser, the Prado, the 76 series, the Tacoma, the 4Runner, and the Nissan Patrol? Loads of character in the Defender, must admit.

[@Rachunlung]

Is this a repost? I feel like I have watched this before

[@remirms2239]

Defender all day!

[@jimcree6869]

Good thing they make ever spare part for a land rover. And thats because every part of your land rover will need replacing

[@accio4260]

They need a stig for the driving tests to be as equal as possible

[@pinkskud1]

Yet again you show a challenge where the jimny is towing a trailer that it can't legally tow in the UK. This is irresponsible for a professional outfit.

[@silviannistor]

It s posted on the internet, not on the uknet.

[@pinkskud1]

@@silviannistor the jimmy has the same tow rating regardless of region of sale.

[@winstonderrick7380]

Suzuki Samurais are water tight and float. Also will. Run with water at the headlights. Go for it. Oh, and they don't break down expectedly.

[@gavinjobson]

Don't think it's got auto wipers?

[@-Belshazzar-]

Second test means nothing. All it means is that the jimny driver don't know how to reverse with a towed at the back. It's something you should know how to do or obvioisly you will fail...

[@thorodin3098]

sunt curios daca land rover urca unde poate urca jimny

[@13conair]

Land Rover money pit ! wait till its a few years old and the transfer box has thrown the towel in like they ALL do ! and then the Diff spits its dummy out as they ALL do ! Land Rover even the new 1's today are the most unreliable motors on the road and have been since the first 1 rolled off the production line, me i would go japaneese all day long wouldnt touch a Land Rover with a barge pole, wife has had the older jimny for 10 years i have a mitsubishi pajero for 15 years and we are still waiting for 1 of them to actually breakdown ! nuff said...

[@NzOk2]

Yes, I love how the look and I tried to buy 2 times a Defender, it is very UNCOMFORTABLE, you have to drive in a awkward driving position, gearbox is from a truck and the second one broke, engine won't start anymore (NEW CAR)

[@gpz550a2]

Checking a vehicles ability to tow a horsebox is useful. Against the clock around a cone course? How is that relevant to anything in normal, real world driving?

[@pragneshsawant7888]

Not fair competition jimny must cross lake than make the decision

[@gabutman6144]

Fact: the new Jimmy is more defender than the new one

[@karlsanderson8127]

Defenders never get dated they get more desirable

[@beaviccoon470]

Actually the old defender is a bit dated but still a cool vehicle.

[@simonlynchsae]

Have the same driver do the road course to take out skill from the equation and who buys a car on the off chance they will wade through 500mm of water? Seriously...

[@Schervin]

The most pointless video I’ve ever seen, using reverse parking test to measure pulling power🤦🏻‍♂️

[@silviannistor]

Actually that test was for visibility and maneuvrability, it s mentioned in the video. But it doesn t matter, it s only entertainment. Nobody needs a test to know that defender is a capable offroader made for towing and work in general, while jimny is meant to be a cheap, light and capable offroader for personal transport. I doubt anyone gets one to pull anything serious.

[@docstevens007]

Just needs a snorkel. Took mine through 50 cm

[@DailyDrivenBikes_1]

The defender is a body on frame.

[@nigelclats6970]

Driving through puddles,well done 5th gear.

[@colinhuon5908]

Towing a thing that weighs as much as that horsefloat behind a Jimny is asking for trouble.

[@protestagain]

Grins, there is a new game changer, the new Aston Martin something, how about that?

[@bens9468]

Shame they have stopped importing the Jimny.

[@Turbo_TechnoLogic]

New Defender is a Chelsea tractor

[@danielrichards8472]

There is evidence of the jimmy wading an entire 1m of water and not breaking a sweat just type it in on you tube in fact it wades just as well as defender if not better as it let’s no water in!

[@tristansundquist1834]

“Establish 4x4 king”🤨. Don’t forget where the Land Rover came from.

[@juliancarter557]

As for challenge 2 all that says is how poor you both are are reversing. A horsebox is a big easy thing to reverse, all you need are you mirrors. This as usual didnt tell me anything new about the cars. I love both though personally own several Defenders

[@NadeemVlogs]

Excellent Brother. #nadeemvlogs

[@petrolheadfrombr]

Only one have warranty, ESC and a 21st century design.

[@TheFlyingClutchman]

Heated seats and apple carplay too lol

[@pip5461]

You should have compared it to the New Defender ...

[@earthstick]

The course wasn't tough enough, the new one would still have won.

[@nielsdebakker3283]

@@earthstick Yep, and you could have tossed that new defender right on the scrapheap after that wading test.

[@earthstick]

@@nielsdebakker3283 I dunno, it wouldn't have filled up with water. But it what they have offered is disappointing.

[@nigelclats6970]

I don't care about fuel economy. My defender 110 XS DC has heated seats,air con,electric windows,heated screen, LAND ROVER TRACTION CONTROL..

[@TheBifanas]

Now i understand why this guy give a 2 points score in X7 test....he prefer the bigger front grid of the Suzuki..😂

[@jszuki4113]

Lo voy a decir en español porque no sé, escribirlo en inglés, a la entrada de troncos el defender ha entrado de lado que es como hay que entrar, y con el nuevo gym ya habéis entrado recto, a que no en tienda de 4x4, lo engañéreis al resto no

[@v52gc]

If you’re going to talk about parts of the cars then at least show us, it’s like filming yourself saying “wow, look at that amazing view”

[@TheKde25]

How the hell did these two muppets end up on a car show. Neither of them seemed to be able to drive and knew anything about offloading . Shocking.

[@luckdingwong2196]

So he couldn't park it ... And pulling power won.

[@JimmyJommy]

Second

[@homerdelossantos2206]

The Jimny owner chickened out because of capillarity.

[@carloyarcia2166]

And the winner is...Jimny👍

[@roedevilla]

1984 G-Wagon would win...

[@venkatnbt]

The jimmy guy is a very bad driver !!!!

[@ZeeBri]

Would much sooner have the Jimny over the Defender after driving both. Defender really are a crock of shit to drive, people just fall in love with the way they look for some reason.

[@Adrian_Nel]

Christ, but "tv reviewers" can talk crap.

[@Kavi4GP]

No you buy a old Land Cruiser 70 series

[@ThushiMj]

Finally 🤣🤣

[@mariadigiovanna5535]

La land rover non ha sterzo ed è super inaffidabile per questo in Africa hanno tutti Toyota o Mitsubishi

[@S.Kapfo57]

What a farce of a comparison

[@bderx6508]

Anyone think the land rover guy looks like captain price?

[@arthuritchybollix5064]

You can't buy the defender now

[@linfoot]

First

[@niallconneely5645]

Give me the suzuki over the land rover any day.

[@thorodin3098]

reclama.....ieftina

[@Loewenherz6183]

The guy with the Jimny can‘t drive reverse with a trailer haha. The undisputed champ is the Mercedes G with 3 diff-locks. Sorry.

[@adamdixon2251]

Don't see many mercs in the outback

[@Loewenherz6183]

@@adamdixon2251 because Australia is british commonwealth. Not many know german engineering. It's not cheap like a Defender. Military services all over the world have the Merc G wagon. German quality is not cheap. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@schuletrip]

Land Rover Defenders are over priced pieces of shit! Shit engines, no room, rust buckets, uncomfortable and shite as a daily wagon. Basically if you don’t live on a farm then why on earth would you have one? Fair enough, easy to work on.

[@RK.7796]

This is a clown show. I miss the serious alpha male talk so much. Instead it's just clowns giggling. Man do I miss watching a man's show

[@jeremyplc2380]

just buy a 4.0 jeep cherokee XJ and call it a day, you can't beat it

[@chelsypinto4368]

Rubbish. You should have taken the Jimny through the last challenge.

[@chrishart8548]

If it had bigger wheels and a jack up kit it could have been ok. It sits A lot lower stock so it's not really fair. The whole engine would of been under water if he did. Not sure what that would have proven much.