Land Rover makes it nearly impossible to replace Fob Battery. Pay up for a new one or suffer.

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@instantmuffin5
@instantmuffin5 Жыл бұрын
I never expected a hammer to be used on this channel.
@lorenzol.8798
@lorenzol.8798 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that the internal crystal appreciates that. I've seen cases where similar crystals broke from a single fall. Also, considering the zero ducks that this manufaturer gives on right to repair, probably they've used the cheapest model available.
@JassonQuill
@JassonQuill Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@stephanc7192
@stephanc7192 Жыл бұрын
😀😁😂🤣😃
@ci70telita
@ci70telita Жыл бұрын
⛏⚒😂
@Poets04
@Poets04 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he'll set an eyelet one of these days?
@dany-ps2my
@dany-ps2my Жыл бұрын
You know it's getting serious when an electronic tech pulls out a hammer lol
@Poets04
@Poets04 Жыл бұрын
Granted this is mostly a SMD shop, but how do you think replacement eyelets get set for through hole work after repairing board damage? Jeweler's anvil and ball peen hammer lol.
@phillipsmit1140
@phillipsmit1140 Жыл бұрын
Land Rover want You the owner to swear at Land Rover while the owner is walking home and his Land Rover remain in the mountains !
@frankcrozier2592
@frankcrozier2592 Жыл бұрын
And why not change the camera angle so we can see.
@nobuckle40
@nobuckle40 Жыл бұрын
What a pain in the butt! It really irks me that companies do this to people. That's why I don't feel so bad about driving a 20 year old car. Thanks Alex.
@stu71disco
@stu71disco Жыл бұрын
😂 50yr old for me
@patrickcannell2258
@patrickcannell2258 Жыл бұрын
Planned obsolescence. Stinks.
@MrSuperheterodyne
@MrSuperheterodyne Жыл бұрын
@@stu71disco what do you drive?
@MrSuperheterodyne
@MrSuperheterodyne Жыл бұрын
@@patrickcannell2258 Yeah I see it at work. Proprietary batteries, which when you open the *special* casing just contain a few AAA's.....
@John-gr5tx
@John-gr5tx 5 күн бұрын
​@@patrickcannell2258the enviro mental ists seem to be fine with planed failure of products. Even though it goes against their whole stated belief system.
@grahamlee1661
@grahamlee1661 Жыл бұрын
The battery is NiMH rechargeable and is wirelessly charged when inserted into the ignition. Should last several years with daily use. If you have two key fobs, make sure to alternate using them so they both keep charged or else the unused fob battery can fail from long term discharge. I had this model car years ago and changed the batteries myself. Opened the fobs by applying pressure (squeezing) to the case until it popped open. Used adhesive to seal them again.
@TheSektor13
@TheSektor13 Жыл бұрын
I think it is VL2020, that is lithium rechargeable battery. Same as BMW used few generations back.
@TheGalifrey
@TheGalifrey Жыл бұрын
It's lithium, uses almost zero current and mine are 16 years old and still hold a full charge
@BioHazardGamingYt
@BioHazardGamingYt Жыл бұрын
@@TheGalifrey really 16 years??
@TheGalifrey
@TheGalifrey Жыл бұрын
@@BioHazardGamingYt 2007 car, now 2023 - 16 years
@Halibrand
@Halibrand 11 ай бұрын
Im a automotive tech that deal with key fobs like these often. I use a wireless toothbrush charger to charge fobs that are dead. Works every time.
@twitch54304
@twitch54304 Жыл бұрын
I use one of those quick grip clamps to put pressure on the button side so your not squeezing the sides of the board, then heat up an exacto knife and cut the ultrasonic weld apart. Works pretty decent.
@ximonx
@ximonx Жыл бұрын
The blade of the key is attached to the pivot piece with a small roll pin, you should be able to press the roll pin out and swap the blade onto the pivot that came with the replacement housing 👍
@CanderouOdar
@CanderouOdar Жыл бұрын
This guy is the Bob Ross of electronics repair. I watch even though I'm never going to attempt to do any of it.
@Look_What_I_Did
@Look_What_I_Did Жыл бұрын
Who?
@duplicitousdemocracy2246
@duplicitousdemocracy2246 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea who Bob Ross is but this site owner is a genius .
@cipher01
@cipher01 Жыл бұрын
He was a painter
@MikeFloutier
@MikeFloutier 5 ай бұрын
Yup! 😂
@PhilippBlum
@PhilippBlum Жыл бұрын
"How are they going to change the battery? How?" That's the point, they don't. Just buy a new car.
@loonysam506
@loonysam506 Жыл бұрын
Battery replacement on other cars is fairly simple, just remove the plastic cap on top of the fob but here you have to solder it on to the board. 😂
@M0UAW_IO83
@M0UAW_IO83 Жыл бұрын
@@loonysam506 Because it's a rechargeable battery, if the charge circuit is working in the car and fob it's not necessary to replace it while it can still hold a charge.
@loonysam506
@loonysam506 Жыл бұрын
@@M0UAW_IO83 Regardless. The car is 14 years old, eventually there's deterioration. No battery can hold a charge forever.
@soarthumbs1
@soarthumbs1 Жыл бұрын
​@@M0UAW_IO83rechargeable batteries have a charging cycle life. They don't last forever.
@myne00
@myne00 Жыл бұрын
Tbf, there's bound to be some adventurer that got seriously wet, and his fob still worked. That's RRs reason to exist. They're not very good at it anymore, but that might be the intention.
@bigdady5625
@bigdady5625 Жыл бұрын
I think the battery is soldered because it is not meant to be depleted. A similar battery is found in bmw x5 2010 key fob. While searching online it turned out that there is a coil inside the key insertion area which will charge the key battery while driving. I had a similar issue for unused key for bmw x5 and the battery was in very bad condition (rusty) i had to desolder it and solder a new battery for it.
@M0UAW_IO83
@M0UAW_IO83 Жыл бұрын
Exactly that, it's a Panasonic VL2330 rechargeable cell so there's no need to replace it if the car and fob charging circuitry is working.
@HenryLoenwind
@HenryLoenwind Жыл бұрын
Whoever designed that never owned a car they had to drive themself. Most people will use one key and have the second as a spare that will see next to no usage, either in a drawer at home or on their spouse's keyring. That spare will be dead and useless in no time.
@titgig7232
@titgig7232 Жыл бұрын
​@@M0UAW_IO83😂 rechargeable batteries are indistruttibile.
@budp.4209
@budp.4209 Жыл бұрын
Alex you're the best I really like your analysis of how manufactures make it difficult to service their products. You are so "real" how you explain things, Thanks
@hgbugalou
@hgbugalou Жыл бұрын
You are really making a name for yourself and your company! I have read and heard about some of the clients you are doing business with and it really shows you are good at this. Plus its fun for me to watch and learn.
@duplicitousdemocracy2246
@duplicitousdemocracy2246 Жыл бұрын
I had the very same issue with my own fob for an Audi TT, Alex. It is definitely a problem to force us to go back the main dealer. Well, they have had enough of my money. They conned me with their devious tactics already, I refuse to pay them another penny. With people like you, we will find a solution.
@andrewpaige316
@andrewpaige316 Жыл бұрын
How do you not have this figured out Alex. They designed the fob to be extremely hard to break into so you would give up and come back to them for a new one. Classic business strategy 👌
@Zone1242
@Zone1242 11 күн бұрын
Great work as always! Glad my BMW doesn't suffer from this problem - changing fob battery is easy...
@MacCaughey
@MacCaughey Жыл бұрын
Ford key fobs are similar, but easier to open. I have just replaced the Panasonic VL2020 in a 2016 Transit key fob. The dealership said it couldn't be done and that it would cost €350 for a replacement key. I cracked the case with a combination of a circlip pliers and a screwdriver and I was fortunately able to superglue it back together with no visible damage. I warned the owner that it would no longer be watertight, but this wasn't an issue, as they had never realised that it was meant to be watertight 😀 As for the fragile pupils, after many years I learned to wear eye protection on the day I was desoldering a connection and flipped a blob of molten solder straight into my eyeball. It hurt like hell, but I was lucky and there was no lasting damage.
@pouncerminned863
@pouncerminned863 Жыл бұрын
I’m a locksmith and this is perplexing. The best bet would be to use a universal remote that has shell and battery that can be seperated easily for battery and board changes
@ksenchy
@ksenchy Жыл бұрын
You still have to do soldering work to get the battery out 😂 brilliant engineering
@Omniside370
@Omniside370 Жыл бұрын
The solution is easy and simple: NEVER BUY A LAND ROVER.
@Deploracle
@Deploracle Жыл бұрын
I thought the best bet would be an old-fashioned metal "key"?
@zorbakaput8537
@zorbakaput8537 Жыл бұрын
Remember the RR design and manufacture was under BMW ownership and direction during the 00's so that probably explains a lot.
@K-Fed
@K-Fed Жыл бұрын
As a locksmith, wouldn't it be easier for thieves to break into homes if everyone used the same locks and keys w/ only their bitting changing?
@caprairinucai
@caprairinucai Жыл бұрын
On some BMW models the keyfob battery is charging wireless if the key is inserted in keyhole.Also the battery is soldered on the PCB.Maybe that's why the shell is rock solid.Also seling more keyfobs for same car is a good business :)
@JerryMetal
@JerryMetal Жыл бұрын
And the customer will hate you. Which is also good business.
@caprairinucai
@caprairinucai Жыл бұрын
@@JerryMetal good point =))
@memyselfandi3925
@memyselfandi3925 Жыл бұрын
Tech tip: Next time use an old soldering iron with a small tip to melt/cut thru the plastic seams. Makes it fast and simple.
@driqbal316
@driqbal316 Жыл бұрын
All companies want to make it harder and harder for DIY repairs so they deliberately make it more difficult!
@ryutenmen
@ryutenmen Жыл бұрын
They want to make it difficult not as the ultimate aim, but that hard difficulty is to serve the money making, because only they have tools/replacement.
@ksenchy
@ksenchy Жыл бұрын
Channing your battery is not repairing its maintenance
@yuldogster5735
@yuldogster5735 Жыл бұрын
​@@ksenchyAgreed. With newer cars that have keyless entry...the fob is essential. My Honda battery lasts about a year...no problem just pry it open with the key tip and replace the $2 battery...2 minute job. If you can afford a Land Rover then you can afford a 1000 fob 😂
@leetucker9938
@leetucker9938 Жыл бұрын
Renault key card is easy to replace battery , and the key card works with dead battery inside the car using an induction loop
@phr3ui559
@phr3ui559 4 ай бұрын
@@leetucker9938interesting
@marioskripelj3269
@marioskripelj3269 Жыл бұрын
With the help of superfine precision plyers I was able to open the shell that much😅 30 seconds earlier hammering the god out of it with superfine precision hammer😂 You really made my day Alex. Keep up with the good work! If You cant fix it, no one cant fix it 🙂
@WarblyWark
@WarblyWark Жыл бұрын
The plastic on those keyfobs are typically made of ABS or an ABS composite. Gentle heat (240-250°C) and some acetone (works like flux) should do the trick. Heating the blade can help, but only if you put the fob in a vice. Edit: Tiny, very tiny amounts of acetone. Use a swab, dropper, or syringe. Edit 2: (Instructions Unclear) (1) Apply heat on one side for about 10 seconds, **keep** the reflow/heat gun **moving** (2) Apply **small** amount of acetone, part will cool slightly. (3) Apply more heat, **keep moving** the reflow, and **do not** heat longer than 10 seconds (4) Apply second dose of acetone, part should be shiny and soft, if not repeat steps 1 & 2 (5) Once part is shiny and soft, use knife/razer to cut *NOTE:* It's best to apply heat and acetone along the seam/mold line
@philipmervin6967
@philipmervin6967 Жыл бұрын
You are cortect👍
@twitch54304
@twitch54304 Жыл бұрын
I see we pretty much do it the same way lol. I use a “Quick Grip” instead of a vice because it holds tight yet it’s mobile
@WarblyWark
@WarblyWark Жыл бұрын
@@twitch54304 Yeah same, though I usually work with 3D printed stuff. Sometimes I'll "weld" stuff together. If I have two pieces that fit together with pegs/dowels/notches, I'll soften with acetone, then use a junk solder iron and some waste filament to sort of fill in the gaps. Though I have to do that kinda stuff in the garage because fumes lolol.
@ZZZ-z9n3n
@ZZZ-z9n3n Жыл бұрын
Hot Wire Cutter?
@Look_What_I_Did
@Look_What_I_Did Жыл бұрын
Dumb...
@stevenadeau3807
@stevenadeau3807 5 ай бұрын
Love the focus on safety as well. 👍🏻
@petrushevski1
@petrushevski1 Жыл бұрын
Not sure about this one, but most flip keys have a pin in the hinge, that holds the key in. If you remove the pin, you can use the original key with the replacement fob hinge.
@destrozar
@destrozar Жыл бұрын
Appreciated the irony of a land rover ad half way through
@mlautokeys9614
@mlautokeys9614 Жыл бұрын
We replace key batteries and shell on lots of car keys... the easiest way to open them without damage to the PCB is use snap ring pliers. Insert plier in the space behind the metal flip round part as the the key flips into the open position... insert plier and case will simply snap open. Takes like 5 seconds.. 😊
@andy70d35
@andy70d35 Жыл бұрын
Exactly that's what I used to do.
@minixtvbox
@minixtvbox Жыл бұрын
This is glued
@marksalot5035
@marksalot5035 Жыл бұрын
ummmm did you watch the video ? the entire fob is ultrasonically welded ,, im sorry but your little idea wont work here since you know after the weld its like one piece of plastic
@TheGalifrey
@TheGalifrey Жыл бұрын
Opened both of mine using snap ring pliers and both cases survived! If the buttons hadn't worn out I could have resealed them after.
@TheGalifrey
@TheGalifrey Жыл бұрын
@@marksalot5035 Yes it does work, I did both my Land Rover keys using the snap ring plier method.
@mykeysworld9860
@mykeysworld9860 Жыл бұрын
Very enlightening thank you for showing me how to do more
@darkwarrior478
@darkwarrior478 Жыл бұрын
You need a vice on your bench, if you squeeze it in a vice it will pop open, side to side squeeze not top to bottom or front to back, most of the molded pieces i do this with pop apart or at least give you the ability to access them for removal of components, thank you Alex for the content, excellent as always!
@loonysam506
@loonysam506 Жыл бұрын
Even VW keyfob is done like this. When I replaced my keyfob housing I also had to break apart the housing using reverse pliers to just push apart the fob. If you try to push the pin inside the fob you'll damage the IR chip making it impossible to start the car.
@EliteRock
@EliteRock Жыл бұрын
I reckon you might need a Dremel (and a grinding disk) in the workshop.
@Poets04
@Poets04 Жыл бұрын
WAY too much FOD would be produced with that process. Maybe in a separate area sure but not on his actual rework bench.
@lukeh6015
@lukeh6015 Жыл бұрын
Die grinder would be a good option for sure, Could just tip a cardboard box (or plastic tub etc) on its side and do the cutting in there, outside is another option, and so on..... Or apply more heat like he did but get it more soft to pry open, If it sounds like it's lightly cracking, it might have gf in the casing....
@faghihimohammad
@faghihimohammad 11 ай бұрын
That's ElectroBoom method😅
@samerismael706
@samerismael706 Жыл бұрын
I was able to successfully find a short in one of my car's modules and change the capacitor to fix the problem. Additionally, I replaced the HDMI port on my secondary monitor and did a better job than the factory. However, my soldering station is garbage, and I'm using a webcam as a microscope (It works!). Nevertheless, I used hot air while soldering, and it went well without breaking any pads. All of this was accomplished on my first attempt. I learned all of these techniques from your videos. Unfortunately, I am currently unable to send you anything or order something as a token of my gratitude. However, I have your videos playing on all the devices I own, 24/7, and I'm truly enjoying the work you do all over the place.
@rickdiego5
@rickdiego5 Жыл бұрын
The best way to cut through the plastic is to use a multi-tool with a fine blade that is a vibrating like hacksaw and you can cut through the edge of the plastic without any trouble and then just split it apart.
@lasseystad3266
@lasseystad3266 Жыл бұрын
Opend a few of these. No easy task, but my method who I found easiest were acetone and a carpet knife. Applied aceton with a needle bottle at the same time pressing the carpetknife in the groove along the sides. Aceton disolve the plastic like it´s melting. Tried dremel with a cuttingblade, but created a big mess with plastic dust and burnt particles all over. Aceton was best way even if it demands patience.
@bigrichrodriguez335
@bigrichrodriguez335 Жыл бұрын
Hello Alex, I have done these with the Audi fob 2004 model. Ther was also an transponder in the fob that I needed to get the car started.
@SalimOfShadow
@SalimOfShadow Жыл бұрын
This is unjustifiable! How could people not turn away from a company that treats them like this?
@TheGalifrey
@TheGalifrey Жыл бұрын
No, this is ignorance of how land rover keys work 🤣
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m Жыл бұрын
@@TheGalifrey The real key is to stay away from the 2 litre Ingenium diesel engines..
@petersouthport490
@petersouthport490 Жыл бұрын
Great video you have a lot patience 👍
@ibmtpx24
@ibmtpx24 Жыл бұрын
I am so lucky that Mazda blade key fob has a screw and after you remove it, taking the whole thing apart is straightforward as well as putting it back together.
@ukaszpodhajski5250
@ukaszpodhajski5250 Жыл бұрын
Alex to get working a scissor key you need to make more turns on the spring. Than it will work like a charm 😉👍 Than the spring will have more power to open/move the scissor to the end of shell scissor runner. Best wishes 😉✋
@obeyyahs
@obeyyahs Жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos and how good you are…but to see my own fob being worked on is cool 👍🏾
@user-xb5ye5ji6o
@user-xb5ye5ji6o Жыл бұрын
مشاء الله تبارك الرحمن يشرفني لما سمعت انك عربي هذا شرف كبير تحياتي لك من الجزائر ❤
@Osukar
@Osukar Жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, you can try using gasoline for softening the glue within the plastic pieces, adding a bit with a syringe with the needle on the gaps, waiting a bit for the glue to soften, prying with a flat plastic tool, adding more gasoline, and repeat until it's open. It all depends on the type of glue they use, maybe it does not apply to this, paint thinner and acetone also works but it damages and melts the plastic if it's ABS based. Just use the fume extractor for safety. Greetings.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 Жыл бұрын
usually there in no glue, they are ultrasonically welded ? SOME ARE AT LEAST..
@phr3ui559
@phr3ui559 4 ай бұрын
@@josepeixoto3384ok
@nal_er
@nal_er Жыл бұрын
Love this channel. Keep teaching my guy.
@hnshns2
@hnshns2 Жыл бұрын
تحياتي وسلامي لك اخي اسمي حسن ومن العراق-بغداد-انت متميز بذكئك وعملك واخلاقك واسلوبك-كنت انا مصلح اجهزه الكترونيه في بلدي العراق وساكن حاليا في السويد-انني اتابع جميع اعمالك واتمتع جدا وكانني اعمل معك-بودي ان ارشدك لطريقه سهله جدا لفتح هذه الاجهزه والطريقه هي وضع قطرات من \البنزين\بواسطه فرشاه صغيره علي الحافات المكبوسه من الريموت كونترول وتركه لمده عده دقائق وستري سهوله فتحه باول محاوله-تحياتي لك-
@10100rsn
@10100rsn Жыл бұрын
Just discovered that the VL2330 batteries in the fob are rechargeable batteries... Guess they expected them to last forever so they sealed them up tight? Here's a quote from the owner's manual... _" - Remote battery - The remote control batteries are recharged when the remote is docked and the engine is running. For this reason it is recommended that each remote is used periodically. This will ensure that the batteries are kept charged and ready for use."_ It's great that they are rechargeable but not so great that you have to be in the car to do that. A replaceable charge port for those occasions when the lock or key is broken and an easier to replace battery would have been great.
@Free-Palestine
@Free-Palestine 5 ай бұрын
For future reference, and to make your life a lot easier, when dealing with these Land Rover FOBs. Just keep applying heat, around the frame, until you feel the adhesive loosening up. The original plastic can take it, by not compromising the internals. As for the thickness of the blade, you have 2 models, HU101 Blade, and HU92 Blade. Wide key style is HU92, narrow style is HU101. If the customer requires a new board, there are 2 frequencies, to watch out for, that are used by both the HU92, and the HU101. Either 433MHZ or 315MHZ. North America as I'm sure you're aware is the 315MHZ.
@craigdaboom
@craigdaboom Жыл бұрын
I’ve changed a few of these over the years, 90 degree snap ring pliers pop them cases open in a few seconds, With the blade flipped open slide them into the small gap under the blade and squeeze the pliers and pop, it’s open 👌
@letrainavapeur
@letrainavapeur Жыл бұрын
I've done this job on my brothers Discovery, a bit of a pain but I don't remember it being that difficult. Landrover keys are designed to be run over and still work.
@ddognine
@ddognine Жыл бұрын
Well, I gotta hand it to Land Rover engineers for designing a key fob that can be run over even if it's supposed to be in the ignition for the SUV move. Land Rover owners must be a special breed.
@RogerTannous
@RogerTannous Жыл бұрын
I usually use a vise to "squeeze" laptop adapters when I need to open them, it helps a lot. Maybe it's also useful in your case.
@esmerilhamente9959
@esmerilhamente9959 Жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, here in Brasil have a cosmetic nail paint remover named banana oil, I use this along the plastic junction and wait 5 minutes. These work almost times to open hard cases, note it's make plastic damage so use this with careful.
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 Жыл бұрын
An ultrasonic knife opens them nicely. You might want to build one as commercially available ones cost over a grand.
@phr3ui559
@phr3ui559 4 ай бұрын
cool
@benassy69
@benassy69 Жыл бұрын
I am working for a Tier 1 Company which produces this type of FOBs. Mostly we are only producing them and the design is solely coming from customer. To answer your question The OEM does not have any interest in making this FOBs repairable since the battery lasts more then 5 year way past the warranty limit. Their only interest is to make the key as sealed as possible ( standard IP64 - water and dust protection) to avoid corrosion and short circuits.
@kentmccroskey3712
@kentmccroskey3712 Жыл бұрын
Mine had the same problem, both fobs ended up with the bits wearing off the front. got a replacement kit that came with a new case, spare buttons, and battery. really easy to fix. the battery is charged when the engine is running. the new blank key can be removed by taking the pin away from the hinge, then the key will fall out. do the same with the original key and file it a little until it fits the new hinge, place it back into the hinge and push the pin back in place to lock the key into the hinge.
@ARNOLDFALCON
@ARNOLDFALCON Жыл бұрын
Thank you Alex
@AmazedStoner
@AmazedStoner Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Pontiac GTO key/fob. Not entirely certain why they thought to sonically weld the fob portion of the key together but they did and boy what a pain to replace the battery when you’ve had your friend locked out from starting his own car
@smedlap8789
@smedlap8789 Жыл бұрын
BMW E90's are the same way. I replaced both of my key fob's soldered batteries about a month ago. I used a hobby saw to cut the two halves in half.
@freelander1794
@freelander1794 Жыл бұрын
great video great info. thanks
@adegboye39
@adegboye39 Жыл бұрын
I’m also into repairing I’m learning a lot from ur channel ❤️❤️
@DumahBrazorf
@DumahBrazorf Жыл бұрын
Precision work today, only the blow torch is missing.
@paulsolovyovsky1702
@paulsolovyovsky1702 Жыл бұрын
the customer now can find a better shell and make it work. Great job.
@deathxxx1231
@deathxxx1231 6 ай бұрын
Yes you doing it right. Hot air is great way to soft plastic. It's like you desolder components, it's like that. Plastic soft when solder soft almost. Soft and scrap, soft and scrap little by little. That is the way.
@lynpatnat
@lynpatnat Жыл бұрын
I had exactly the same experience with a Hyundai i20 key fob. Even the blade siezed the same in the replacement case. It was still cheaper than an original item so worth the effort.
@francmartins
@francmartins Жыл бұрын
The best way to open it is to freeze the piece and then hit the crease with a knife, it breaks exactly on the track without loss of material or flaws. I have been using this method for over 5 years to open notebook fonts
@Mortanon
@Mortanon Жыл бұрын
Use a small bench vise to squeeze the sides of the case. It works wonders
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Alex had to get out the he hammer! Heck yeah! I seriously dont know why anyone would even buy anything Land Rover after this. It might seem trivial, but it lets you know exactly how the company thinks of you as the consumer. Excellent job Alex, I use hot air to get into many sealed up housings as well.
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 Жыл бұрын
I still scratch my head why anyone would buy a ford product yes LR and Jag are fords.
@canuseemygrapes
@canuseemygrapes Жыл бұрын
I knock the pin out and remove the blade, file plenty of material off so it resembles the copied pin end and fit it back in the copied holder. Works every time
@Reefos
@Reefos Жыл бұрын
Tech Tip: When i ran into situation like this in my old electronic repair shop days I'd break out the freeze spray ( inverted air in can would work for same effect). Freezing the glue joints and shocking the joint with a putty knife and hammer. Alternatively you could drop item to floor in a controlled manner after freezing. disclaimer:(always use appropriate PPE! safety glasses, gloves,proper ventilation)
@alexdelara9858
@alexdelara9858 Жыл бұрын
As my granpa would say.. "if everything fails, grab the persuator and give it a few whacks"
@DJaquithFL
@DJaquithFL Жыл бұрын
That old style Mercedes key switchblade fob was back in the mid '90s. I had a 1994 Mercedes S-Class that used that same exact key design. Back in that day I used to keep a car for at most 3 to 4 years.
@fraserc9768
@fraserc9768 Жыл бұрын
Alex, Just for information….. whenever I see the brown insulation sleeve on a Lithium cell I suspect it is rechargeable. The cell in that key fob is a VL2330 and it is rechargeable. No idea how the fob gets recharged in use though ! This is why it is soldered to the PCB as it is expected to last a very long time. Great repair work and I totally agree, the case should be screwed together to permit servicing.
@Healcraft
@Healcraft Жыл бұрын
could it get recharged through the key?
@iiersnitxa
@iiersnitxa Жыл бұрын
Some plastic cases easily open with banana oil, most notebooks works this way
@habbyhouse
@habbyhouse Жыл бұрын
"We can cut a couple of fingers in the process, easy" Lol, tough job indeed. Kudoos to the well prepared customer.
@MartinAlejandroLiguori
@MartinAlejandroLiguori Жыл бұрын
I just checked my Fiat Cronos key out of curiosity, same style but you can easily take the back cover with some force and the battery holder is accesible.
@chesterbuck1841
@chesterbuck1841 Жыл бұрын
use a dremal tool with fine grinding wheel, use them for opening a walwort transformer when modifieing those transformers..... that dremal will cut right through that plastic.
@joshuaprice2075
@joshuaprice2075 4 ай бұрын
@Northridgefix use a small dremel for opening up key fobs such as that one.
@sylviaelse5086
@sylviaelse5086 Жыл бұрын
I had a Subaru Liberty years ago. I got so fed up with the key fob not working that I eventually soldered the battery connections myself. No more problems. A more recent Subaru has not shown the same issue, so perhaps they figured out how to get the contacts to work.
@RichardRuby-h9g
@RichardRuby-h9g Ай бұрын
apologies just t let you know for future referenc, the key blade profile for that year of Landrover is hu92r and is the old BMW system EWS or Sawdoc,the one the customer supplied is for the newer system on Ford software and the profile for the blade is HU101
@mokshanoks9428
@mokshanoks9428 Жыл бұрын
GOOD JOB
@malamutten3203
@malamutten3203 Жыл бұрын
All your questions can be answered so easily ..... Money Money money .. Landrover Must make money after all.
@gary00832
@gary00832 Жыл бұрын
It’s probably ultrasonically welded together boss!!! Keep up the good fight!!!!
@jackcheefer
@jackcheefer Жыл бұрын
These are new commercial policies, you can buy all you wish, but the real owner of that stuff is still and ever the manufacturer
@UNINVITED66
@UNINVITED66 Жыл бұрын
Ford did something similar with battery on vans. But have a special battery that is expensive AF , but.. That battery is lifetime and never needed to be removed . I see keys from ford with over 20 years behind and the original battery are still charge and works perfectly !
@cmslick3
@cmslick3 Жыл бұрын
For the key there is a small metal pin that can be pushed out, this is how you transfer the key to the new fob so that it all fits.
@GF-mf7ml
@GF-mf7ml Жыл бұрын
Very good for environment.
@Enjoymentboy
@Enjoymentboy Жыл бұрын
It should be criminal to charge that much to replace the fob. Even my 2006 dodge was a ridiculous price from the dealer $300 per key...but they'd cut the key for free. lol I picked up 2 aftermarket fobs for $50 (Canadian) shipped, got them cut for $15 and then manually programmed them in the vehicle following a factory process for replacement keys. I did it in the dealer parking lot after their parts guy told me "there's no possible way it can work." He literally stood right there and watched as I did it and was astounded. He asked how I was able to do it and I showed him the 30 second google search followed by the forum post.
@noire1001
@noire1001 Жыл бұрын
One of them fabric roller cutters might be handy for stuff like this. Less chance of slipping.
@nycdude450
@nycdude450 Жыл бұрын
Dealer wants to pay for the crazy high replacement. What a pain to replace.
@xXCOR3Xx
@xXCOR3Xx Жыл бұрын
this is great example of the engineers "it'll never break its perfect" making technicians life a nightmare
@rickkcir9959
@rickkcir9959 Жыл бұрын
Try a "hot" razor blade. I have an old soldering iron that I fitted with an excato style head to do this. Also, use CUT RESISTANT GLOVES!!!!!!
@mike-ology22
@mike-ology22 Жыл бұрын
Land-rover and Jaguar are owned by TATA industries from India. Since they bought the company they've just made sports models, not farming models used for farmers, their main intention on what they were built. ;)
@mike-ology22
@mike-ology22 Жыл бұрын
2008 Land Rover, along with Jaguar Cars, was bought by Tata Motors from Ford in 2008. The two British brands were joined under Tata Motors to become Jaguar Land Rover Limited in 2013.
@Falcon204
@Falcon204 Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, Try using an Oscillating Multi Tool. Dremel makes a small size, and it will cut through the case of that keyfob like butter.
@ytmadpoo
@ytmadpoo Жыл бұрын
Why not just a regular dremel with a cutoff wheel? That was the first thought I had. A multi-tool could work but a cutoff wheel would be so much faster, just zip around a few times. I've used mine for similar purposes (getting into annoyingly sealed plastic cases).
@10OZDuster
@10OZDuster Жыл бұрын
multitool is the best way to thrash the fob and mangle the case it doesn't work.
@redcruben
@redcruben Жыл бұрын
It's supprising the lengths a company will go to forabit of extra cash. I had a berlingho many years ago, I noticed that only one of the two reversing lights was working. I got a replacement one only to find that there was never 2 bulbs in it, just to save money
@kd23se4
@kd23se4 Жыл бұрын
LandRover doesn´t expect their products to outlive the key battery
@Anders-B
@Anders-B Жыл бұрын
Except they keep windows 2000's PC's going in order to programme keys for 80's model cars for the immobiliser.
@tipanatiinformatica
@tipanatiinformatica Жыл бұрын
It's the first time I've seen a technician use a hammer, good job.
@multis
@multis Жыл бұрын
Try to use banana oil and a syringe. Drop the oil with care around the edges . Wait a few minutes and magically opens. I use this method to open dells notebook power supplies. Good look. Paulo
@Hotecce1
@Hotecce1 Жыл бұрын
good video, but what i would have done was use a dremel to cut open the housing, and slightly trim the edge of the case to relieve the binding key.
@decoydave
@decoydave Жыл бұрын
Put the key fob in a vice, edge to edge and gently close until it cracks.
@ChilliCao
@ChilliCao Жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos. You know though it would have been nice if there was a camera view of what you are doing. Your scenes are on your or in the microscope. A lot of this video shows you that showing us every now and then what you are doing.
@happydawg2663
@happydawg2663 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, I had to do a similar fix on a similar key of a Ford car, it was a nightmare, I had to dig through the plastic and basically destroy the old key, they were asking for 200 euro for replacing it, bought spare parts online for 18 euro.
@xerejuneseve6333
@xerejuneseve6333 Жыл бұрын
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@youtubasoarus
@youtubasoarus Жыл бұрын
3:36 - This again is an anti-consumer process that forces the end user to use the dealer for replacement. It's a profit motive, pure and simple.
@omicron0mega
@omicron0mega Жыл бұрын
I find it surprising that manufacturers haven't considered potting key fobs in resin or implementing resistance meshing to prevent the use of alternative batteries, thereby forcing vehicle owners to replace the entire ECM or vehicle in the event of a dead key battery.
@SuperFredAZ
@SuperFredAZ Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine that they make it so hard. I just changed the batteries on my Honda fob for about $5
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