Landing and taking off planets in Starfield, Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen, No Man's Sky

[@mikecronin2415]

Man, the sound design team in Elite carried half of the game’s environment. Just awesome.

[@danlowe]

The environments were arguably better before the expansions. To make them explorable or useful for ground content they made them a lot less interesting. Then again so did No Man's Sky and they straight up deleted people's planets out from under them. I've played almost 600 hours in No Man's Sky and half that time trying to find a world like the one I was exploring in the release version of the game.

[@ha1ban3]

@@danlowe is that why some of my bases are buried?

[@danlowe]

@@ha1ban3 Not sure if they had basebuilding yet back then. But they've regenerated the planets more than once to add new features. I do know that if you used terrain manipulator to sculpt around where you put your buildings that the ground will sometimes be regenerated when you come back, even inside whole buildings. Some objects automatically sculpt their shape into a flat plane which shouldn't refill but many object just inhabit the same space so you have to terrain edit to access them. Those ones seem to refill at random. Why it's probably better to find game generated caverns or only build on bedrock you can't cut with the manipulator.

[@K0xm4N]

but footsteps sound like counter strike 1.6

[@darthhunter69]

Yes.

[@Sighman]

What I like about the Elite Dangerous galaxy is that it's not a skybox texture showing stars all around you, it's a live representation of the actual stars in the game, in their correct position ... and you can visit any one of them.

[@Sighman]

PS shame you didn't pick an atmospheric world. The sunsets can be spectacular.

[@GlarusGaming]

Would've been better indeed. Last time I stopped I was on my way to the center of the galaxy about 2 years ago. I just downloaded it for the video, but somehow it hooked me back in and am planning on finishing the journey :)

[@amigo3284]

I tried ED…. It felt empty, like Nomans Sky…. I liked privateer and privateer 2 a lot. It never felt empty or dead when flying around. the X series also felt alive.

[@mroushion]

@@SighmanED doesn’t have Atmospheric worlds. Or is that new? Only specific worlds with some atmosphere I believe.

[@aquaticborealis4877]

There is actually a LOT of things to do in Elite. But some of it can feel repetitive. And there are countless barren worlds. Elite’s planetary graphics can still look good, but have fallen behind. It can’t be beat if you are into VR though.

[@rtyprty]

for the record: landing does not usually take this long in star citizen. OP just used one of the larger (and much slower) ships

[@Limiter25]

the 600i is a medium ship... not large, i think u need to see the larger ships on game at this moment

[@drpotatocat492]

​@@Limiter25*looks at Reclaimer* I've tried taking off and landing in it. Thing's a damn boulder.

[@AllCentaur]

@@drpotatocat492 It’s better at slamming into the ground at atmo then even trying to fly imo.

[@rtyprty]

@@Limiter25 just because there are larger ships doesn't mean it's not a big ship lol. my point was that it's slow, especially compared to something like a cutlass. I have an 890 at the moment so i definitely know about huge ships

[@sorano9733]

@@Limiter25 600i is classified as a large ship. Medium ships are ones like cutlass, vanguard, msr, etc.

[@cemyurtseven9]

That transition between layers in the sky in StarCitizen just scary beautiful. You can feel the intense change when you leave the atmosphere and dive into deep space.

[@robertwagner9265]

By far the most impressive.Shame its just a scam rather than a game though aye...

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

​@@robertwagner9265 sure thing Betty Boi, but not the loading screen simulator with no vehicles, that cost almost twice as much and took just as long You so smart Mr Keyboard Warrior 😂

[@danicastaneda1099]

​@robertwagner9265 A scam? Really? When will you idiots realize

[@silva-music]

@@robertwagner9265 Bro u call a Alpha Game that has more mindblows and better technology than the most 98% other space sims a scam . That’s scarry . Check the community if it is a scam

[@cLsUpReMe]

​@@robertwagner9265you have to try it out for your self instead of watching KZbin videos, only cost $45 instead of $70 or $100 to, the game is really good, personally one of my favorites, if you have a good pc tho.

[@MrTask4ce]

The first time i figured out how to board and fly my ship into space in Star Citizen was one of the most memorable gaming experiences.

[@MGB2408]

Same for me. The way you can touch almost every button and switch for engine, door gears etc was mind blowing for me also.

[@StarLeader44]

Yes, this was very memorable for me too as I flew into the side of the bay and exploded into a fiery inferno. 🤣

[@lunch7553]

Same lol, never forgets

[@lunch7553]

I was rotating 360 in the hangar, ended up blowing up 1 wing of my Titan

[@Alfa-mb5es]

The descent to Orison for the first time, accompanied by Pedro's soundtrack for it was actually breathtaking. Not many things like that which stick in my memory so clearly.

[@noahtemple8312]

Star Citizen does such a good job at immersing the player into the game. Every little detail and the need to manually push every button just goes such a long way to making the game really come to life. Not to mention the incredible visuals and sound design.

[@Angarato86]

they coulda automated the doors tho, i have automated doors in my old ass apartment building :P

[@xShredsx]

@@Angarato86 some doors are automated. Not many ship ones are though, the ones that are automated aren't usually entrances to vital spaces. I think it has to do with ship ownership, (though its not quite implemented yet) its easier to program who has access to a ship if the player has a button prompt, vs automatically checking every person every time they get near a door?

[@Angarato86]

@@xShredsx fair point. most doors in games work on just clicking on the door, i feel a button on the side would only really work for VR. in which case its awesome but it feels abit annoying in flat screen

[@phoenixcraft9940]

@@Angarato86 It depends on the ship. The ship he's flying in the video (600i) is actually a pretty old ship that has a rework in the making. Ships that are up-to-date are called 'Gold Standard' ships. Gold Standard ships have entirely automated doors, however they also have physicalized buttons, handles, switches - you name it - for everything. Even light switches and door locks work. So you get the best of both worlds.

[@snowchi2792]

​@@xShredsxit's also to do with pressurisation, currently ships are airtight whether you have doors open or not to space, but they will be adding actual pressurisation so when you open a door that space gets vented. You wouldn't want to accidentally open a door into space and kill your friend who's got their helmet off to eat a sandwich so it makes sense for the exterior ones to not be automated.

[@COMMANDandConquer199]

If Starfield just had Elite's supercruise space travel, and planet landing, even as something optional that you could skip I'd be so much more immersed.

[@metalvox89]

I’m okay without the transitional landing for Starfield because I think it would make it much more buggy based on the amount of content on some of the planets, but traveling and being able to walk around your ship while traveling to another planet would’ve been nice. Like I know someone tested it and it took them 7 hours to reach a planet on Starfield, but it was simply a place holder. If they had the ability to, not necessarily do a grav jump, but a faster traveling like in NMS to cut the time down and allow you to walk around, etc in the ship to craft, etc, and the planets not being a place holder and it acts like the planets you arrive to normally, then that would have been enough for most I think

[@benjaminnapoli1834]

@@metalvox89 i wished they could of simply made it to where the planets were whole and you could fly into them but there's a shift/transition from far-mid atmosphere to close to ground then vice-versa leaving, 1 small thing I hate is how leaving you are facing the planet reminding you its a set loading point and not a cool massive universe.

[@benjaminnapoli1834]

@@metalvox89 then for the planet it doesn't load the random generated place until you get close or pick it so its easy to put in, then space can be left as random generated nothing as is but at least there is some kind of flying in/out so immersion isn't broke. I wonder if modders could add a "sandbox" of atmosphere you could fly in for a bit once you click to enter planet then after you travel down a bit it puts you to floor like normal. Id even be 100% fine with that which would be easy, another loading point but worth it . Plus you could leave a option for fast landing if someone doesn't want that

[@pattonkeith]

Keep in mind, Starfield is an RPG first and foremost, running on an old (albeit, updated) engine. I think a lot of the - let's be honest - uninteresting gameplay was cut, giving them more resources to use elsewhere. I love Elite and Star Citizen to death, but flying around Supercruise or in Quantum takes up a rather large portion of game time. Everyone was constantly looking for ways to shorten those trips, because they wanted to get to the meat of the gameplay. More Immersive? Yes, which is great for a sim. But good gameplay for a video game? No.

[@ZachSawyer2077]

I agree on this, not every game has to be a sim

[@spythere]

Elite: Dangerous - beautiful, realistic landings (also atmospheric ones with Odyssey update), commander has all control over the ship, must acknowledge the height, speed and all the systems by himself while approaching the ground NMS - arcade, yet very pleasant to watch landings and take offs, easy way to land and engage Star Citizen - similar to E:D but yet more breathtaking realistic atmospheric landings Starfield - a Bethesda game.

[@vega7865]

Star Citizen: Hold (W) for 3 min Elite: Hold (W) for 2min 30s NMS: Hold (Shift+W) for 1 minute Starfield: Hold (X) for 1 second, 10 second loading screen 🤔Can you tell which of these games are "sims" and which are sandbox narrative quests?

[@grarghov1]

actually out of the 4 games, the "bethesda game" is the only which has a storyline instead of a short array of repetitive _chores_ (planetary landings are also that...) and does not get utterly boring after 2 days.

[@dan_2247]

@@vega7865 any game : click lmk 2 times to open so all the games are same

[@vega7865]

@@dan_2247 Did you hold the LMK for 3 minutes? No? Then it's not a simulator game, it's probably an RPG that focuses on different aspects of gameplay

[@andreasoberg2021]

I wish that Starfield had less loading screens but the story is super good. The planets also look good so far.

[@Griffo4]

I remember the hype for starfield was immense. RIP to those in the SC community who thought it would replace SC.

[@xiyax6241]

People keep falling for it man

[@bionic1matt]

@@xiyax6241 I'm pretty mentally challenged due to believing Starfield was gonna be amazing, even after every other new hyped game that came out was a disappointment, but now I'm not even really hyped for ES6 anymore, nor will I ever be hyped for any other game after Starfield. I guess it just took one last time for me to realize, that even if a studio I really enjoy spends years culminating a "masterpiece" I'm never going to let myself get shafted again. Better to expect a pile of manure and it turn out to be gold than expecting greatness and getting shit

[@ThePaintsmoker]

People who felt like that are not proper Star Citizen players and dont know shit

[@endlessthunder6161]

Now i have trust issues.. bethesda will be in my not to trust list. Starfield 5/10 Ship building was fun! Exploration was outdated.. bethesda didn’t even tried to change its approach… very lazy and uninspired game. Combat is also outdated! Your follower can’t even do shit. Story is good! I’m very disappointed:( .. it made me feel like cyberpunk 2077 launch.. i guess we can’t trust big companies now because all they care is about money… no love, no compassion for the games they’re creating anymore… I was 15 when i kept hearing about starfield! How they’re making it a best game! How disappointing bethesda…

[@Griffo4]

@@ThePaintsmoker My thoughts exactly. I thought it was a joke from the beginning that people thought it would be the best space game ever.

[@rederickfroders1978]

Starfield is basically a space game for people that dont like space travel

[@dank90]

It's a space themed RPG

[@rogerstalder7184]

And Elite if you only like to travel lol

[@josevelazquez6260]

​@@dank90it's a poorly designed rpg with space elements*.it Prioritize the rendering of a sandwich before the gameplay

[@FloofyWolfy]

they forgot to add the role playing part as well @@dank90

[@spacedoutorca4550]

@@josevelazquez6260Salty PS5 owner I assume?

[@wookiewarrior7173]

It is absolutely criminal not going into third person while entering atmosphere in Star Citizen, its another level of breath taking

[@purpleyeti705]

He's new, give him time 😂

[@filipbitala2624]

And you are fine with him not going to third person in ED, nor NMS

[@Daniel-nq6zu]

​@@filipbitala2624 you're not very bright are you chief

[@filipbitala2624]

@@Daniel-nq6zu Well you are not very hipocritic are you now?

[@RetroCube]

@@filipbitala2624to be fair, not many people have done a hippocratic oath

[@user-yy2oy3jq8i]

The sound design in Elite Dangerous is great, I love the rattling of you ship when you drop from frameshift, however, I have played Star Citizen for a little over a year now, and there is nothing like dropping out of quantum travel and seeing the sun crest over Daymar and Crusader.

[@MR-YoutubeChangedMyHandle]

Wait until you drop out of frameshift in front of a battle or a neutron star in elite dangerous.

[@TKOfromJohn]

​@@MR-KZbinChangedMyHandleMeh, neutron stars are only cool the first time you see them. Then you get bored having to supercharge along to neutron highway to colonia

[@aoshinn]

@@TKOfromJohn well considering it takes around 200 jumps, anything would get boring.

[@manzarek74]

If you want realism and an accurate Milky way than elite dangerous us the best

[@CrunchyJoints]

The sound design in ED is actually astonishing, in the same way SC's visual design is

[@ryannguyen8383]

Really wish some games in the future can actually combine those 2. AND be a responsible developer team

[@Dumb-Comment]

SC just finished making a new audio system and it's phenomenal

[@alvarg]

@@Dumb-Comment is it in the game yet?

[@CramcrumBrewbringer]

@@Dumb-Comment Does the game run well yet?

[@billywashere6965]

Not yet. Probably in the patch after 3.20.@@alvarg

[@nautical2014]

Can we just appreciate that sound design in Elite like damn

[@ladybabe6958]

i COME

[@user-xq9pf4pi8c]

Yes

[@BlackEagle352]

It actually sounds kinda DANGEROUS

[@Blueoriontiger]

The sound design is on a different level. I didn't care for this game at all despite liking space sims, but I heard a ship jump to witchspace and I was sold.

[@axlm.808]

​@@BlackEagle352 The cracks and aerodynamic noises when you're in glide mode... And that's a landing on a moon /dwarf planet with low gravity. Landing on a planet with a gravity above 1G is way scarier and the take off could be a bit more tricky

[@dheerajvirgo3]

nothing beats the realism and immersion of star citizen

[@visionentertainment8006]

League of its own

[@nicz7694]

This Ive been playing in an Orga with my Friends and we sometimes go Mining in our MOLE on Lyria. Just entering the Atmosphere during an intense Sandstorm is really damn immersive! Just imagine our pilot navigating with short range vision to find some rocks while we, the turret bois are in the outside Environment (except the guy in the Front Turret) and having that dust and sand blowing into our faces. Star Citizen is literally the most chill and immersive space game that you can enjoy with your friends. Just go in a mining trip, talk together and enjoy the view while relaxing. Game might be buggy as fuck and I have moments where I want to eat my Keyboard because of it but in the end I always had great moments in this game

[@dheerajvirgo3]

@@nicz7694 this pretty much sums it all up!

[@MR-YoutubeChangedMyHandle]

Elite Dangerous beats it in some ways, but all these other games have released and starfield is still being made so...

[@visionentertainment8006]

@MR-KZbinChangedMyHandle Starfield is trash and Elite doesn't come close.

[@SnowTerebi]

Although Star Citizen's sequence took longer than all the other 3 combined, it really didn't feel that long while I was watching.

[@telestasis]

This video is a bit misleading as you don’t need to fly all the way down to the planet’s surface each time. You can use quantum markers which makes it take a fraction of the time

[@GlarusGaming]

@@telestasis First time playing the game, didn't know about that.

[@telestasis]

@@GlarusGaming no stress. Folks might see this vid and think it takes ten minutes each time you want to land or take off which would be crazy

[@GlarusGaming]

@@telestasis Indeed, a few such complaints have arrived. I'll check how to do the quantum markers. Thank you.

[@ralaxgaming]

@@telestasisFor POIs but you don’t get quantum markers when you land randomly on planets, which is what this video is. Not really “misleading” but yes, Star Citizen also has optional quantum markers for POIs.

[@efxnews4776]

What i like about No Man's Sky is that is fast paced, you can you land, jump of the ship and start to do your thing, that usually revolves around scanning stuff or dig holes in the ground. NMS is literally more game than simulation to be fair.

[@zilvoxidgod]

Yeah NMS is not 'good' landing or takeoff by any means. But it's physically there and not just loading screens, and it's a game not a sim. Star Citizen does an amazing job as a sim but like... s it a game? Not really.

[@Devilot91]

are two different projects and type of game, but as always what one have lacks on other ones and vice-versa. NMS don't have the other TONS of game that Starfield have. NMS is just fly to planet to planet with no real quests, no story, no humans to talk to, no very weapons. They may added lot of things true, but is a 7 years game old vs one game out in less than two weeks, so is pretty unfair imho. One can anyway enjoy both games.

[@kenshinhimura6280]

@@Devilot91 Billonarie companie against Hello Games. Yeah, it's unfair. Starfield space is just dissapointing

[@Devilot91]

@@kenshinhimura6280 oh yeah Sean Murray also very professional disappearing from everything for more than a year in complete silence after selling a scam advertising indie game for 50 full bucks 🤣

[@kenshinhimura6280]

@@Devilot91 Todd Howard selling the same shit since Oblivion, and the worst optimized game in 2023: "uPgRaDe YoUr Pc"

[@Zebizenette]

Star citizen is so underrated. The feeling of getting into the game, spending your money on getting resources/weapons etc, getting your missions set that you want, going to the space port, spawning your ship, finding the port it’s in, getting in, leaving the planet, so much more after that, it’s the best gaming experience I’ve ever had

[@BunkerSquirrel]

You forgot the random hangar self destructs, invisible asteroids, clipping through objects, and auto ejecting from your seat during QT ;) But yes, when it works and you get to see the vision for what the game will be, it’s incredible.

[@nicz7694]

​@@BunkerSquirrelWell if you buy the cheap starter packs or doing freeflight you can still have a ton of fun for not so much money. The community is damn great and if you tell them you are new, they will queue up just to let you fly their shiny Hammerhead and so on Really love the Community. Met a lot of really cool people there and a ton of new friends that also play other games with me :D

[@AFXX85]

I agree 100% Star Citizen is very underrated. About 90% of people who say it's not a good game, they have never played it and the excuse us always about money. Triple A games cot way more to play when you can play Star Citizen for only about $40 if you want, you don't have tons of money on the game yet people still always open their mouths, when you have crap games like COD copying and pasting the same game yet people still spend tons of money on them. Star Citizen is byfar one of the best games ever.

[@digitaldruglord1815]

It's completely overrated

[@cy-one]

@@digitaldruglord1815 Genuinely asking, how many hours have you played SC for?

[@peterleblanc661]

The systems in Elite are seriously polished. FSD is so cool how you can play orbital mechanics and have to deal with entry. Then just punching fsd and flying off towards a dot you thought might be a planet. The way coms with towers work felt like actually flying a ship and the landing mode on the radar meant you never felt like you needed to go into 3rd person to tell what you were doing with your ship. Star citizen has so much more in it than Elite but what Elite had in it was really well done. Powering down so your ship went cold and just drifted invisible to radar. Rushing back to a station on light air cause your canopy broke. So many cool systems.

[@aoshinn]

also, I think it would be a better comparison to use a ringed atmospheric planet to all examples. Elite also renders the sky with surrounding planets and bodies magnificently.

[@WhiteLakeOf]

Landing and taking off in star citizen looks just gorgeous, tho it takes much more time comparing to other titles, but the feel and immersion is so incredible, definitely worth it. And also the details, the atmosphere, like rain drops on the ships windscreen, and the stars appearing while u are leaving the atmosphere, the star (sun) stays in its place, while u adjust trajectory, just gorgeous.

[@GlarusGaming]

I agree, it was an amazing experience. Regarding the speed, lots of people told me, there are faster ways to land, but this was my first time playing the game and I took my time :D

[@DontWantAHandle]

And aside using a smaller ship/non atmospheric world, to cut a bit more time, you can also set more power to the engines so it recharges much faster between boosts (hold F5/F6/F7 for default power management bindings).

[@smoothyodaproductions4373]

I have over 1000 hours in star citizen, and i can tell you landing is very fast. There are orbital markers you can fast travel to, and so it only takes like a minute max to land

[@RoswellCrash]

Used one of the worst ships for it tbh, a starter ship or just smaller ship would have been a better comparison. 600i is so broken because it’s being redesigned from top to bottom at the moment.

[@MGB2408]

It's my favorite game. It's the only game that have made me want to upgrade components of my PC. I like to fly around with my MSR

[@Desenrad]

My first time in StarCitizen, a random wanted to show me around. He made me meet in space and told me to get out and fly over into his ship. I smiled and giggled with joy on that short space walk. It was mind blowing.

[@scorthion]

i wish i could experience that to

[@dark_winter8238]

I was waiting for you to say he left you floating in space.

[@StormFahrt]

I was expecting to hear the dude shot your ship down and left you in space lol.

[@cy-one]

@@scorthion Why can't you? There are regular "Free Flight" events where you can play for free. And the base game only costs 50'ish bucks if you want to stay.

[@mikelw3734]

@@StormFahrt Most star citizen players are kind and helpfull...

[@crab-cake]

it's hard to appreciate star citizen without ever playing it. videos don't do it justice. the immersion is on another level. you actually feel a part of the world even with the bugs. i don't play that often but when i do it's always memorable.

[@bnv5641]

Agreed..until your ship explodes from nowhere and you wake up inside of a table 😂😂

[@123nicanor]

I played star citizen and its great visually, but now I ended up on this video because I've had enough of the the game bugging out on me. If they just made it single player, and focused on the immersive tedious work of a space man, it would've been a good AMerican Truck Simulator in space and it would've been awesome. But no, they needed Million more dollars on top of the half billion they earned from selling Jpeg ships. What a shame.

[@crab-cake]

@@123nicanor squadron 42 is the single player story game and star citizen is the multiplayer. who knows if it ever comes out though at this point. my expectations are pretty low and i also enjoy the current state of it for what it is.

[@djLovelyTime]

When they start to unlock the power of Unreal 5.3 then everyone will be back for more!@@123nicanor

[@touhouplay3293]

​@@123nicanor You can actually fly the Jpeg ships as you said haha they release several ships every 3 months or so, they have over 200 ships. Again, the ships you buy it either cause you're lazy as fuck to make the money ingame, or because you want to back up the project more, not at all necessary and in no way give you advantage (cause bigger ships require bigger crew and bigger management) And they focus on the Multiplayer Star Citizen as you know it, the Squadron 42 Solo game with storyline and another game being made by an exterior team which will be like a gigantic Battlefield with ships, vehicles and infantry. So they are basicaly making 3 games at the same time, im just giving infos haha

[@brunoadamm]

If we mashed up all these games, it'd be a blast! Picture this: the story and lore from Star Field, the cool physics and graphics of Star Citizen, the vast universe exploration of Elite: Dangerous, and the awesome biome generation of No Man's Sky. "Dangerous Sky Citizen: No Man's Starfield."

[@efxnews4776]

The story and lore of Starfield SUCKS, theres not even other alien civilizations in the game! I want MASS EFFECT lore, or STAR WARS lore in a game mixing the other 3 game in this list, hell i was just picturing here, a believeble remake of ME where you would play with Shepard or Joker depending on the situation, when has to fly the ship, you play as Joker, and is the ground combat you play as Shepard, you just need to switch between the two, when theres battles where 2 are involved you could switch instantly and and the AI would assume the control of the other one. This would be awesome and i don't think folks would mind the switching mechanics.

[@hallucy2215]

​@@efxnews4776so u like playing as other dudes with backstory u arent gay

[@esqeleteT8]

@@efxnews4776 chill bro

[@-SkyCat-]

@@efxnews4776 to many just love bitching when its not what They want.. but THEY don't speak for everyone. i myself love Starfield and don't give a damn about other Aliens.. doesn't bother me.. SO MANY games out there to make everyone happy but no one goes back to play the older games. they just want to bitch if the New games don't do what they want.

[@Thebigbean114]

@@-SkyCat- TLDR: your opinion sucks and starfield sucks its ok to bitch about a game developed by a trillion dollar corporation when they have had over 7 years and near endless resources and they still chose to use an engine that is decades old at this point; have a lack luster story that honestly just rips no mans sky and just is overall underwhelming. Sure you might like it and thats ok but having low standards for games is the reason why big corps pump shitty games is because of people like you having low standards for what a game should be. How is it possible that a crowd funded game like star citizen with a smaller team and lower budget is able to accomplish so much more in 9 years, in terms of immersive space exploration and multiplayer mind you, than a multi billion dollar corp. Instead we just get a reskinned space fallout 4. Idk about you but I think holding big corps to make a good game that BEATS everything else is only fair since they have so much more in terms of resources and creative potential and 7 FRICKEN YEARS to make a decent game. I promise you Bethesda is gonna release paid DLC and just let everything be fixed by the modding community like they have since 2006.

[@joshuagayouauthor8401]

What's crazy is that Spacebourne 2, an Indie game which seems to be developed by a single person (perhaps he has a small team now, I don't know) also uses loading screens to go from atmosphere to space and vice versa, but he's managed to do it in a way that fakes you into believing it was seamless. Starfield just feels so old fashioned after games like No Man's Sky and Star Citizen.

[@dusermiginte4647]

So, you havent played Starfield..

[@JSON_bourne]

​@@dusermiginte4647I have a 100 hours in starfield and he is correct

[@dusermiginte4647]

@@JSON_bourne no you dont..

[@JSON_bourne]

@@dusermiginte4647 Big Cope says what??

[@JSON_bourne]

Legit finished ryujin industries, I'm lvl 70 and have outposts across universe lol

[@Masked_Official]

Star Citizen actually feels, looks and sounds like my only trip to space.

[@GlarusGaming]

You have been to space?

[@Masked_Official]

@@GlarusGaming not space, I was exaggerating. I have been to the point of free fall, zero g's while with the military. The hum of the engines, the kind of muffled interior reminds me of it. Also the views in Star Citizen are actually similar as well.

[@GlarusGaming]

@@Masked_Official That must have been an amazing experience.

[@StefSubZero270]

That's because Star Citizen is the only one amogst these who wants to be a realistic space sim while other have more "convenient" way of traveling around space and landing on planets. Also SC has by far the best graphics and visual design of the others

[@grahamhill676]

​@@StefSubZero270It's a shame it's a tech demo

[@KenFromchicago]

Nice. A simple comparison. We can compare and contrast for ourselves. Bonus: I liked how you did it in alphabetical order, ELITE DANGEROUS, NO MAN'S SKY, STAR CITIZEN and STARFIELD.

[@GlarusGaming]

That was pure coincidence, not gonna lie🤣

[@owend1453]

It's also in order of when they came out, pretty cool.

[@Make_Canada_Trudeau-Less-Again]

actually in order of best hahahahaha

[@waldotheranger3987]

@@owend1453 What? Lmao Star citizen isn't in the video then

[@owend1453]

@waldotheranger3987 good point 😂

[@kaneda7368]

Haven't played but star citizen has the most real looking out of the 4. I always though nms' planets lacked verticality... Like all the planets' skies end so soon. It's not about ship speed either it just feels so small. Star citizen literally felt like this was a big celestial body. You have to go through the stratosphere, you have to go through the clouds, and even then the stuff on the surface looks tiny.

[@gordonschnick12]

And the game still hasn't released yet

[@davidfromgeo]

Now imagine doing that 20 minute landing (which is a glorified loading screen) every single time you wanna land on a planet. That's Star Citizen.

[@kaneda7368]

@@davidfromgeo is it though? I've seen comments where people say the player wasn't going as fast as the could be going.

[@thexboxcat341]

@@davidfromgeo we have a starfield apologist here It's a slow landing because 1) he didnt know how to properly 2)its a big ship and landing reflects that And when you land on a planet it's for a specific purpose such as a bunker or city so coming down through the atmosphere makes it way more immersive and engaging as you can appreciate the view that you've piloted yourself too or scout something out

[@3DzEXPLOSION]

@@kaneda7368 ​ @davidfromgeo It does not take 20m to land lol. He's flying a bigger ship and isn't confident. I come flying in hot and land in really fast lol. It's more fun with ships with wheels cause if it's flat I just slide and roll right in. All gas until 1k from the ground lmao

[@Ahiyarov]

Only Elite and No man Sky have full VR support. And in VR they are just in their own league. Elite in VR give exceptional immersion

[@lumi5897]

The team at RSI have planned on integrating VR support to SC for a while now, they do have eye tracking which is pretty neat in the mean time though

[@phoenixcraft9940]

You can play Star Citizen in VR with a piece of 3rd party software called VorpX. CIG (developers of Star Citizen) are working on built-in VR support with some crazy stuff. Silvan is the dev that's going to be pioneering it after he finishes his current work on the rendering engine.

[@MR-YoutubeChangedMyHandle]

​@@lumi5897they've also planned on releasing the game for quite some time...

[@ИванИван-е5н]

You can playing in star citizen with VR

[@laurentboursier-lq1tw]

@@ИванИван-е5н no

[@NikFlyer]

Literally the only thing that Elite is missing is the ability to actually manually board the ship lie in Star Citizen, and it would be such a perfect mix of everything I like about space sims.

[@thetoyodacar2264]

true. Same with no mans sky in my opinion. However ships are, by default at most a little bigger than a bus. You can board freighters and use them to warp but it's not the same. Also, just more stuff outside the ship in ED. I would love to explore those insane looking space stations, but I guess that might be too much

[@hectoresteban3410]

and the planets not look like a ball in space? in star citizen you really feel that you are landing in a planet

[@thetoyodacar2264]

true. Elite dangerous is more about the space exploration. The planet in ED did not have an atmosphere so that kinda looked worse, idk if there are any planets with them. @@hectoresteban3410

[@Libertas_P77]

And it’s a playable, finished game that’s largely bug free.. unlike Star Citizen.

[@hectoresteban3410]

@@Libertas_P77 because cant start to develop the game until have offices and programers to do that... And i see and played AAA finished games with a lot of bugs of big companys...

[@Santagonista]

a thing that i like in Starfield and starcitizen is the fact that the ship is not just a space car, a vehicle, is a fucking ship. You can live on it, you can have people on it, you can sleep there, you can build there. Others ships are just a traveling gadget

[@nepatok]

Don’t forget the VR experience in Elte Dangerous: nothing is comparable.

[@GlarusGaming]

That's a dream of mine

[@fleetc]

@@GlarusGaming Hope you get a chance to experience it in VR, totally different game. Hope the game does not die because nothing currently could replace it.

[@JAMESBOND-rw6yc]

NMS also has full VR compatibility

[@harrasika]

​@@JAMESBOND-rw6yc but not nearly as immersive with the arcade ship controls and cartoonish graphics.

[@C.hrisis]

​@@JAMESBOND-rw6ycit does, but VR in ED is just magical. I cant wait to see it in Star Citizen tho, but it will take forever before they touch that sadly

[@NegInfinity]

I remember landing on a planet in Elite Dangerous for the first time in VR. You pick the tiniest crater you can see, fly towards it, it gets bigger and bigger and bigger, and becomes a humongous pit in the ground many kilometers across that dwarfs your ship. Ten you hop into SRV, roll out and look up at the stars you came from. It is a pity that they never updated odyssey for VR... Also, really cool clouds in Star Citizen. That's flightsim level. Reminds me of flying Cirrus Jet in x-plane. The ship aesthetic is kinda similar to it too.

[@RavagedSociety]

Not gonna lie, that was the one thing that bugged me about this video. I swear Glarus picked the smallest planet he could find for the ED landing. 😂

[@AuraMaster_7]

That's my absolute favorite part about ED and Star Citizen. They don't fake the planet surfaces and scale. Features that look absolutely tiny from space just grow and grow until they swallow you up. Then you land your ship and hop out and it hits you just how small you are.

[@Griffo4]

Yeah you’re right about the ship. Origin has some of the sexiest ships in the game.

[@Mr.Constitutionalist427]

Star Citizen is just the best, have loved playing it for thousands of hours now.

[@carlos-nm2iq]

If Mass Effect taught me anything, it's that you don't need a very elaborate transition to make you feel like it's a magical experience.

[@efxnews4776]

Yeah, me too, except that Starfield doesn't have that magical experience, i didn't find it anywhere, as in ME i find that in 3 games, and they only fail me in Andromeda, but even Andromeda had it's good moments, combat in ME has never been better than in Andromeda, also has VEHICLES, something that Starfield doesn't have.

[@grizzlyblackpowder1960]

​@@efxnews4776not gonna lie if you can't find the magic in starfields version of space, your obviously not experimenting with it or trying things on your own. The missions themselves are just gonna lead you from load screen to load screen. To find the immense wonder of starfields space. you gotta break off and find things to do on your own.

[@barnstormer546]

​@@grizzlyblackpowder1960People seemed to be under the impression that it was "the next big thing" when really Bethesda only touted it as a third spoke to their RPG lineup. People who buy the game should expect it to feel like an Elder Scrolls or Fallout title in a different setting, not a spaceflight simulator or story-intensive linear experience. It's a sandbox, scattered with places to explore and stories to uncover. They might not be too interesting stories to some, but it's the first in a series. They'll fill the place up as time goes on.

[@iyziejane]

@@barnstormer546 I went in with the expectations of "Fallout in space" based on the trailers. I became surprisingly pleased that Starfield corrects a lot of Fallout 4's wrong turns as an RPG, both with better writing and also has a longer smoother power curve for skill points and earning credits. I also like the variety of ruined / abandoned sites (leftovers from the colony wars in the lore) with non-ruined futuristic environments.

[@telestasis]

“Star Citizen’s graphics are outdated!” LMFAO

[@Phoenixstorm36]

Heard that one yesterday ... it just not true.

[@GreggyAck]

Elite: Acceptable NMS: Approachable Star Citizen: Incredible Starfield: Questionable

[@its5oclockcharlie]

Elite dangerous Audio is on point

[@nathangerardy2669]

Star Citizen's entry -- you missed one thing. If you go a bit farther up from the planet you will actually see the frontal entry heat forming. I think that might have added a bit more to the effect. But you can't quantum to the planet then go down you have to start a bit farther from the planet.

[@GlarusGaming]

Thanks for the tips. This was my first time playing the game, so it might indeed look a bit unprofessional :)

[@nathangerardy2669]

@@GlarusGaming I thought the video was great, just didn't see the entry flare. You just have to start from a bit further out of atmosphere to see it. I usually watch in 3rd person to see it.

[@efxnews4776]

Same with NMS, depending on the angle you do, you can see the heat forming in the ship.

[@PhilippSeven]

@@nathangerardy2669 The re-entry effect is not range dependent, it depends on the speed and angle of the ship.

[@Mgl1206]

@@GlarusGaming yeah, if you go to an OM point and then start flying down you'll get a reentry effect on your ship

[@brymetheous2387]

wow i've never played StarCitizen but now i'm wanting to, that planetary landing alone is just, simply gorgeous.

[@juz3r1]

Hello! CitizenCon, the biggest show about gaming, is coming soon. In this case, there is a free trial period. But be careful! At first you only pay 50-60 dollars and you can play with a small spaceship. Then you join the community and start pirating in a gang with a Hammerhead in a corner of Stanton... :)

[@thestartreker.official]

I've never played it either! Wow I'm blown away by the planetary landing too! I wish Starfield had that feature while I enjoy the landing cutscenes which I don't mind and still enjoying the game with all of the content it offers me especially building your own ship and outpost while I think No Man's Sky has the best building outpost options to me which I think the only thing that both Star Citizen and Starfield are probably missing, the best building options. I surely want to play Star Citizen after I'm finished with few playthroughs of Starfield. Lol.

[@david2727]

You better have a deep wallet.

[@decepticonsretreat]

it has to be, because Star Citizen (like E:D) is nearly a pure space sim, so flying the ship is most of what you do. That's not a criticism, just, that's where the focus is. One of the most memorable times I've had in Star Citizen was an especially hairy landing, in a blizzard, on a planet with a barely-habitable temperature, with a ship full of salvage, while running out of atmospheric fuel because I had to do a go-around due to a mix-up with the spaceport tower.

[@ChadeGB]

Don't bother, it's a buggy, unoptimised, content lacking mess. And this is coming from an original backer. You've just seen the best bit about the "game" although, it's more of an unfinished tech demo than anything else.

[@Vv_JASPER_vV]

I like that landing in Elite requires you to pay attention to planetary info, like high gravity, as well as your general trajectory. It's just difficult enough to be rewarding, but it's not burdensome

[@emarskineel]

Yeah that wouldn't get old at all

[@brandonknight431]

You can always play the loading screen simulator starfield, that way you don't have to do ANYTHING.

[@omicrondelta7327]

​@@emarskineelso does loading screens

[@emarskineel]

@@omicrondelta7327 starfield isn't a space sim. You people are ridiculous.

[@omicrondelta7327]

@@emarskineel you are ridiculous, I'm just saying loading screens get boring FAST. Cyberpunk has almost zero loading screens. Starfield is every goddamn door. I love Bethesda and Skyrim alot but they could've done a better job with Starfield.

[@Blackcat70_]

One of these things is not like the others..

[@stevethompson5265]

😂

[@hito-sama]

Hmm? Can you tell me more, comrade? 😏☕

[@Someone_234]

All of these things are not like the others

[@furyiv]

One of these things is not just another one of your plays

[@Lorcinaji]

@@Someone_234all four games are within different genres and are not the same at all. OP is retarded to imply otherwise.

[@jonathanj.3695]

Elite Dangerous' sound design is just at a whole new level in comparison to the other games. It really lets you feel the weight and size of your ship. I especially love how your engines are muffled when you're in space, get loud and clear when you land on a planet or fly in an area with oxygen, and echo when you're inside of a space station. I also love how you can hear the sand and grit hitting against your ship as it's creaking during a burn in on a planetary landing. It's just so damn satisfying feeling and hearing those immense engine rumbles in your ears when you have 5.1 surround sound and a bomb ass sound woofer.

[@zmortis111]

Yep, Starfield is definitely an RPG set in space, and not a space sim.

[@Joseph-wh5of]

Yup, people seem to be unable to wrap their heads around that.

[@ChrisClemmons]

You mean, like it has ALWAYS been described? lol ... the haters are literally not right in the head. It's like their daily dose of crack... they go into withdrawals if they don't something to show their hatred to a game they'll never play.

[@myrchantkobold8268]

people just expected more space in the space rpg

[@Joseph-wh5of]

@@myrchantkobold8268 I don't know why?

[@AaA-xw6yy]

Nonsense, the closes thing to an actual space sim is KSP, the rest, including all in the video and Starfield are simpler space games, dealing with Bethesda fanboys is always something else.

[@nuir9474]

It's worth mentioning that Star Citizen planetary landing was originally going to be very similar to Starfield, so basically a cut scene (see CitizenCon 2014 demo). Then we got Pupil to Planet demo in late 2015 and everything changed.

[@b-l1969]

Is it really worth mentioning though?

[@understoodish]

As I recall, the entire Crytek dev team (who developed CryEngine, which Star Citizen's StarEngine is based on) was laid off some time prior to 2015. CIG (Star Citizen) wisely hired them and that became CIG's German office. They have some very smart developers, and that's how procedural planet tech--including manual takeoffs and landings--became possible by 2015/16.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Yep, and both games began developing in 2015 SC and 42 @250 million SF @ 400 million Talk about investment 😂

[@Darkdiver28]

Yet sc is still in development. It’s all nice looking but SC is nothing more than a glorified tech demo. I’ll be truly impressed if this ever comes out

[@philm325]

indeed it was, cut scence clip of a Connie landing. Was pretty cool to watch though, sometimes I think I'd like to see an auto land plantet side feature added to SC though.

[@LuxwingGo]

It's kinda cool how four different games can take the same concept and portray it in vastly different ways.

[@StarAmbience42]

Yeah! I've played Star Citizen and while its graphics are cool and the atmospheric entries are gameplay, once you land, there's so little to do. Starfield isn't perfectly realistic by any means, but its the most fun for me because they have a lot more to do once you land on each planet.

[@numberonedad]

yeah it's cool in three of them

[@Meister_Dwight]

You can use your mouse wheel in Star Citizen to increase your walking/jogging speed, so it doesn't take forever to get somewhere and so you don't have to sprint all the time 😊

[@GlarusGaming]

Didn't know that, thank you :)

[@TheLoneLlama]

@@GlarusGamingyou can also press cap locks in starfield so you don’t have to run everywhere lol

[@andersbjorkman8666]

I have to use mods in stafield for such a simple thing as walking/running speed. Either I run to fast, or I walk to slow in vanilla xD @@TheLoneLlama

[@joakimnomm7456]

Yeah, even walking is a simulation...

[@TheLoneLlama]

@@andersbjorkman8666 at that point I would just plug in a controller to the pc, the game works way better with a controller anyway

[@carbydeedge7814]

Nice video, is cool to see the difference between the games for sure. Am a SC backer since the beginning, if this was your first time flying a ship (thought I read a comment saying that..) you did a great job!

[@GlarusGaming]

Yes, it was, and thank you. There was a short tutorial before, where I flew from a planet hangar to a space station, plus I had to ask in chat the first few tries, how to land. It was fun and a great experience.

[@leoray1888]

@@GlarusGaming I noticed as I watched you fly- you flew entirely out of atmosphere before turning on the quantum drive. In most planets you can jump far earlier than before the edge of the atmosphere. It saves some time, but if you're into the immersion then flying all the way out can be just as enjoyable as jumping from the planet.

[@feixin_duke]

how the hell did you get an 890 jump to fly for your first flight@@GlarusGaming

[@GlarusGaming]

@@feixin_duke There was a free trial for a few days and you could select from a few ships, which were given to you. I had no idea which ship does what and picked this one :)

[@feixin_duke]

@@GlarusGaming people pay over 1000$ in real world currency for that ship 😭

[@brymetheous2387]

Something I do love about Starfield, though, is the 'clunky' feel of the spaceships, you really do get the feeling that spaceships have JUST been invented not too long ago, as if they could fall apart at any minute

[@Empirehog]

I like the atmospheric entry and sounds from Elite Dangerous, the ability to get out of your chair and walk off your ship (plus take off and land) without loading screens like Star Citizen and the external boost engine noise from Star Field.

[@mrmangosir]

This was done on a lower budget and years before.

[@SupercapeGames]

Personally, Star Citizen for the win. PERSONAL OPINION! DONT GET MAD AT ME!

[@CincoMuertez]

Gotta love Star Citizen and Elite for going the sim route and cool design, but respect to No man's sky and starfield for getting straight to the point with speed.

[@mrmangosir]

NMS just does it better.

[@thefryinallofus]

@@mrmangosir Nice to have options, but Star Citizen is building the space MMO of the future we'll all be playing in for years to come. It's just going to take some more time before it's 'there'. But as you can see, it's pretty incredible the progress.

[@lolman6759]

​@@thefryinallofusI swear star citizen is the video game equivalent to the guy saying "batman can beat anyone given enough prep time"

[@Griffo4]

@@lolman6759It will be better than any other space game though. Imo it already is but that’s subjective. Although many think it’s a scam or that it will take 20 centuries for release I still believe it will be the greatest space game to ever be made.

[@austinchamberlain6565]

The potential for star citizen is off the charts it just needs to get there… also, nice 600i

[@GlarusGaming]

Indeed, it's amazing. The 600i was a gift during the free to fly period 😁

[@silva-music]

600i wup wup

[@Chuck8541]

@@GlarusGaming Man, after watching this, now I gotta go for a flight! lol Also, little heavy on that BOOST buddy! haha You're damaging your engines when you get into the red too muchI I do wish you would've gone into quantum to show viewers, I was in awe when I first saw it. Oh, and throw in the old school Eve Online in the next one! ;)

[@rakaydosdraj8405]

@@Chuck8541 Engine damage isnt in SC yet, that's coming in the Engineering/resource system rework.

[@Chuck8541]

@@rakaydosdraj8405 Are you sure? Cuz when I lean on the boost for a long time, my engines are notably, albeit slightly, damaged when I land - it gives me the option to repair them, with the mobiglass menu. Even though I didn’t do any combat. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@randydurnil1824]

SC kind of makes the other games look silly. Not that other games are bad. I like all these games but

[@Rgraceful1]

In SC he didn't even show the amazing 3rd person burn of re-entry or using one of many ground vehicles that can be carried and used with zero cut screens on 125 amazing ships . I've played SC for 10 years and never seen it look that bad , must have a 10 year old video card .Lame .

[@randydurnil1824]

@@Rgraceful1 even with a ten year old video Ard it made the others look silly

[@GlarusGaming]

@@Rgraceful1 This is all on Ultra Settings, with a 7900xt. It was my first time playing the game.

[@bigwoodysauce]

wow.. i'd love to see the outtakes lol@@GlarusGaming

[@GlarusGaming]

@bigwoodysauce I did get lost in the first city and took a few laps with the tram. Also, when trying to leave the hangar, I forgot to check where the exit is and tried turning around and almost crashing the ship.

[@Jeradactile]

So sad to see a game I loved so much be forgotten. Elite is such an amazing game.

[@omicrondelta7327]

true. I love elite so much and they just ain't updating it all that well 😭

[@Oracle2448]

It's just boring after a bit first several hours are fun but after while it's just boring...

[@milton7316]

I get on truck some stuff around just to pay maintenance fees on my massive freighter called Wuhan Market.

[@valley_robot]

I have elite dangerous on my steam account , bought it when it was on sale , when I played it a few years ago you couldn’t land on planets and walk about has that changed yet

[@omicrondelta7327]

@@valley_robot you need the odyssey dlc to walk around. Also some planets dont let you land on em, like earth-like planets and others

[@Auldus]

Star Citizen is just so captivating.. nothing in star citizen is quick. It's all about being wholly immersed. No transitions, no loading screens. The only thing getting you on and off this rock is carefull planning and your own pilot skill. BTW 600i gang. ✌️my everyday driver in SC.

[@warrenmckenzie7379]

Starfield, load screen after load screen.

[@SherpaMe3813]

Bethesda employee: How many menus and loading screens do you want? Todd Howard: …Yes?

[@gort5583]

It could just be me but I really prefer when the landings and take offs are as real as possible and not just transitions in a space flight sim game. Same as the egress and ingress, I much prefer being able to walk through the ship to to get to ground. You have really highlighted the differences.

[@GlarusGaming]

I am glad you like it and I agree with you. This was my first time playing Star Citizen, but it felt so real and satisfying. The whole sequence was just wow.

[@permanent8387]

well star citizen is an actual space simulator with everything physicalized unlike the others

[@adamaj74]

Land and take off from planets 50+ times per play session and tell me how you like it? Bethesda playtested it, but it was found to be much too tedious. I'm thinking through something I just did. I was crafting at my home base, ran out of materials. Left the planet to try vendors a, b, c, d, e - all on different planets. All were out. So, I travelled around scanning planets to find the ore I needed, landed and mined some. Got back in my ship, picked another place on the planet, travelled there and mined some more. Repeat two more times. Flew back to home base to finish crafting. Decided I would do some research into another crafting. Needed materials and components. Back to checking vendors and/or mining/gathering/haversting/scavenging. A dozen stops later and I'm back and able to do my research. I then decide to do some quests, pick one, leave current planet and go to new planet for quest. Once I get there I scan it and think it's a good idea to go see if I have a better set of gear with better resistances to this planet's climate, pick up my minigun, and swap companions. So I go back to home base, get gear and companions better suited to the quest and planet and head back. I could go on, but you get the idea. Those long landing cycles may work for those games, but they would render Starfield unplayable, tedious, and frustrating. You'd spend 2 hours landing and taking off just to do a thirty minute quest. I don't want a landing and taking off simulator. That would get obnoxious very fast - which is why Starfield doesn't have it. They COULD have it, but they chose not to for the reasons I stated above. It would be infuriating having to do that menial task 50 times a session when you're just trying to get somewhere and/or get things done. You know, real rpg things?

[@phxbadash]

@@adamaj74 I've been doing it since they added the ability in 3.0 in SC, still not bored of it.

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

@@andyskyfall3891 Nah, it's not that bad and if you're on a moon it's very quick. But then some poeple have less patience than a coked-out ferret.

[@3brenm]

The annoying thing is a mixture of these games would be the perfect space game. Elite's space combat, amazing ships and realism, nms's exploration and fun and planet generation and starfield's missions, walking around your ship and storylines...

[@GlarusGaming]

I was hoping Starfield would be something like this. I didn't expect the realism of Elite, but what they released is a joke.

[@3brenm]

@GlarusGaming yer it looks a little disappointing from the early reviews. I'd still like to play it, but maybe when it's on sale

[@GlarusGaming]

@@3brenm You can pay for xbox pass and play it. It's officially out now. You can even play it on Pc that way.

[@3brenm]

@GlarusGaming mm i don't think its on geforce now though yet which is what i use for games

[@absolutezero6423]

@@GlarusGaming I play N.M.Sky & Starfield both with xbox gamepass. I am getting my money's worth out of it replaying several titles like the mass effect trilogy, fallout 4, fallout nv, skyrim, forza horizon 4, to name a few.

[@syntaxzero1677]

Star Citizen is on a different level completely. As much as people like to take dumps on this game, nobody can deny that nothing comes even close to the feeling theyve created going in/out of atmosphere and landing on planets.

[@AtrusDesign]

Graphically you are right, but the flight model of Elite make fell to really a pilot. Same thing was absolutely absent in Star Citizen. But I tried it 2 years ago, may be more, I don’t remember, I hope flight model is improved now.

[@phoenixcraft9940]

@@AtrusDesign It has, significantly. In the past, SC's flight model was very arcadey, just like how Elite's flight model is very arcadey. Now in Star Citizen ships have proper drag in-atmosphere (which, Elite does not) and has full maneuvering thruster simulations (in fact, it has since before 2 years ago - again something elite lacks). Elite is based off of a WW2-style dogfighting, so while it may make you feel like how you'd imagine being a pilot, you're not a pilot in Star Citizen - you're an astronaut. Right now Star Citizen is working on implementing a lift and control surface simulator to make it not just a spacecraft simulator, but also an aircraft one as well.

[@Mike-fg5bz]

starcitizen is hands down the best looking

[@karsonkammerzell6955]

Elite Dangerous's sound design was so on point. Shame the rest of the game didn't have that love. One of the tensest moments in gaming was when I'd barely escaped an ambush with a cracked canopy and had to speedrun my landing on the nearest planet outpost within 2 minutes. Harrowing, lol. The newest devlog for Star Citizen showcased a LOT of sound updates and design for the game that might put it tops on the list for me with landings. I always felt the sounds were a little lacking in SC, but it appears that's because they literally are; that side is just as alpha as the rest and I'm jazzed to see what they do with it.

[@CyberiusT]

Question (in three parts) from someone who's never played ED: That moon appeared to have no atmosphere. Why the sonic boom & ship stress noise during descent? Do they just have the one soundtrack for all landings or something? In which case, since there's more airless dross than real worlds, why not have one suitable for vacuum landings?

[@HatsOnJohn]

@@CyberiusT The boom is the sound of the FSD (frame shift drive, what enables FTL and hyperspace travel to other star systems) disengaging, it also happens out in space. In game its usually paired with arriving within normal space flight distance to a destination or to the ground on a celestial body, or if youre forcefully pulled out of supercruise speeds due to an emergency or another player. Think of glide mode as a long shutdown sequence in where the FSD assists planetary approach alongside normal ship thrusters. Glide is complete once planetary gravity overwhelms the FSD and youre brought to normal space. The gravity pull of planets affects landing and makes it harder to stay on course and not crash as youd expect.

[@CyberiusT]

@@HatsOnJohn Hmm. Ok - thanks John!

[@phxbadash]

@@CyberiusT it is the same sound no matter which planet you are landing on, same with the glide sounds as well.

[@AndrezF17]

@@HatsOnJohn Indeed, on planets with high gravity in Elite, due to inexperience, it is easy to crash without being able to stop in time, which adds realism

[@lizi1936]

The fact that NMS can went up against these big title alone is a huge win for HelloGames and NMS

[@GordonSeal]

Except there is no planetary landing in NMS, it's all fake. When you enter the atmosphere, there is a loading sequence masked by the entry effect. It then loads a new map with a flat voxel terrain.

[@TheJrr71]

​@@GordonSeal Not to be pedantic, but all of the visual representations of landing and taking off these planets, are "fake". It's just a question of how immersive and believable the developers are able to make their representations appear to the game player.

[@oyshikaadi9631]

@@GordonSeal Literally all the games (Except Starfield, since that one's a loading screen) are doing the exact same thing as NMS did. Don't put your head in the sand, just look. Neither star citizen nor Elite pre loads the terrain because that would kill performance. They have a planet loading sequence when you get closer. In case of Elite specifically, it loads when you get closer in space whereas in NMS, it loads when you break the atmosphere. Only reason why NMS can't load in earlier is because its worlds are significantly more populated than Elite. Loading it in early will kill your PC with a bunch of moving entities.

[@anidiot9831]

Gotta love that beautiful MicroTech scenery.

[@Spike.SpiegeI]

love the detail involved in star citizen!!

[@F96-t6s]

While the realism in the visuals is what greatly differentiates SC from the rest, it's the realism in the gameplay -- such as taking piloting skills seriously because there are many hazards that can kill you (like driving a car in the real world) -- that makes it shine without equal.

[@Sighman]

The other great thing about Elite - the planets and moons are full size, not toy miniatures.

[@HNELBeats]

I like Starfield because they give you more details on planets

[@spencerthomas609]

Starfield the only game that's not a space sim and it still gets on a list with the space sims! Pretty incredible

[@xavol.]

Star Citizen mechanics/engine with Starfields story/sidequests. Would be a dream, wouldn't it?

[@crab-cake]

that's what squadron 42 is attempting to do (if it ever comes out)

[@xavol.]

@@crab-cake last update 5 years ago 💀 (the video one)

[@dezze0n]

There wouldn’t be a point in doing that as they get so much money from the ship sales and marketplace

[@aldeonuwu2634]

Starcitizen is undoubtedly the king, that trasition between space and atmosphere is just magical, from barelly having sound in space to the boom from breaking the speed of sounds barrier, the change in vibration based on pressure, the raindrops disappearing as you clear the clouds, the water evaporating from the windshield, it all has so much more impact, never played it but I like watching it, it doesn't matter how many bugs can have, it will be always the king of space games

[@rubeneles]

it's been nearly a decade in development, but it sure gets better update after update. it's an unfinished buggy mess but it sure is fun to play and it's fucking gorgeous to look at, that's for sure. citizencon (the official star citizen convention) just took place yesterday, they showed the new engine and it looks even more surreal and stunning now. they also showed tons of new features like base building. the thing with these guys is that they usually take a lot of time to deliver, but with time they usually do. for now i won't lose hope on this behemoth of a project that they call videogame

[@aldeonuwu2634]

@@rubeneles starcitizen is a bit like those projects of weapons or technologies, a decadent and problematic prototype that will lead to the development of super advanced technologies, this is what starcitizen is a prototype, it is not complete and probably never will be, but I can say with almost absolute certainty that there is no game as complex as starcitizen, starting from the most visible aspect of the game up to the minutiae in its writing and coding

[@Ternado-fs4yd]

@@aldeonuwu2634that’s what I’m thinking too, star citizen is running so other games that come after it can walk

[@deathhulk8860]

elevators is something ships in starfield needs

[@i.d.6492]

Landing and taking off is such a magical and unique experience for many of us, we've watched countless si-fi movies of space ships taking off through atmosphere and were greeted with vast beautiful cosmos, it's sad that they didn't do it in Starfiled but it is what it is.

[@aydingharehbaghian7923]

I hope they add this feature as dlc in future

[@aydingharehbaghian7923]

@zKingsKiller i mean the graphics are good the engine is old but still i see no reason how the "engine" could prevent them from adding this feature. The planets and how they look are amazing tbh

[@darius8214]

​@zKingsKillerIt's not that their engine wouldn't allow it. Cause planet in Starfield are like cities, or rooms in Skyrim. There are also mods that allow for open cities. It is just that Bethesda doesn't want to do it.

[@_The1whoknocks]

​@@aydingharehbaghian7923An engine's graphics and its capabilities are 2 very different things. Bethesda uses what is nearly a 15 year old game engine which means the technology is not up to par with today's standards. They probably could add landing sequences but it would take up way too much of the games "memory". You have to think, they can't even show you to enter/ exit buildings or space ships without a loading screen. Adding landing/take off sequences would take far more work than it would be worth doing for DLC. It would cost more money than Bethesda would be willing to fork out.

[@aydingharehbaghian7923]

@@_The1whoknocks oh i see, that's really sad tbh

[@magictriangle6878]

I think Outer Wilds derserves to be on the list of great space flight/ exploration games. Yes, it's much smaller than all of these games, but the whole experience is seamless from getting into the ship and getting out

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

That game is a masterpiece

[@harrasika]

And arguably the most fun since controlling the ship takes actual skill.

[@ImJustJAG]

Yes

[@bonelesschickennuggets1868]

@@harrasikaAfter so many “fun” crashes with the Interloper and the Sun thanks to auto pilot I took it upon myself to learn how to fly that thing, made my experience so much enjoyable already.

[@FangsofYima]

Breaking through the atmosphere of Giants Deep is such a cool experience, and the movement of all the planets matched with the ships physics makes it feel very real

[@ChanceAndTylerShow]

I think it would be cool if you landed on similar planets for the comparison, the presence of atmosphere in the star citizen planet vs the airless planets chosen for the other games makes quite a difference

[@OD-Zee]

Pretty sure the point was not the planet tech, but more the take offs and landings between all the games, but I can see your point for aesthetic consistency.

[@Limiter25]

in no mans sky i dont know about, bcs i not played, but in Elite Dangerous... is same all planets, have atmosfere or not, when u aproaching feels like is a rock, lifeless, and when u landed have some patchs of flora without anything more, still feels a rock

[@slim420MM]

Sometimes I want the full experience of taking off like SC and sometimes I just want to get there immediately like Starfield.

[@GlarusGaming]

A nice mix between the two would've been something great for Starfield :)

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

No, I wish it was even faster, lol

[@Rony_Weasley_]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 there's a mod for that already, and there are mods for docking / undocking, grav jumps, airlocks, ladder climb speed, everything

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

@@Rony_Weasley_ there's even a mod to speed up menus

[@thetoyodacar2264]

is not no mans sky a good in-between? Takes no time to land and leave the planet. Even traveling the solar system A to B takes at most 5 min@@GlarusGaming

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

As an ED veteran, to me it's the best at it. Although the gliding re-entry is a little "loading screen" trick, because there's no point on re-entry if there is no atmosphere. With Odyssey they implemented thin atmospheres for some planets, but the re-entry has been always there and still is for non atmospheric planets. But still, it's the best. The stellar forge is a technical miracle. It's amazing how you look at the stars, and it's not a skybox, but the actual stars that you can visit. And although the jump is another loading screen, technically you can fly from star to star if you had enough time and fuel. In fact there are systems that are a month/light or so from each other, and you can do it without jump, because the Alcubierre engine allows the ship to fly hundreds of times the speed of light, so the travel would last a few real hours. It's been done and proven. But everything has its own downs, Starfield, NMS... and ED is not an exception. Everything becomes boring and repetitive after a while, no matter if the approach is over the top like in NMS, or realistic like ED. The lack of variety and objectives can kill the fun. But I have to say, that for ED it took me thousands of hours to get bored of it. Sadly, they abandoned the stellar forge development because its creator left Frontier.

[@phoenixcraft9940]

It's a bit of a nitpick, but the stars are actually a skybox. What Stellar Forge does is it takes a snapshot of the surrounding area of the galaxy you're in and then places it in a procedural skybox. And an Alcubierre Drive, while technically allowing you to reach speeds faster than light, cannot in practical application as it would violate causality - it is impossible for information to travel faster than light. Thus, Star Citizen's method of performing 25% of the speed of light with an Alcubierre Drive is the most realistic, as they provide a physicalized seamless system where there is no supercruise and no loading screens. That fact alone makes the system feel larger than Elite ever did in my opinion, as like you said, Elite gets boring after a while. I remember exploration being very repetitive, system after system, you eventually see all that there is to see. For me, Star Citizen has not been like that at all despite there being only one system, as most of the gameplay comes with unique interactions with players, the physics system, dynamic events, etc.

[@someunicorns5959]

I like how in Star Citizen its pretty universal to turn around and look at your ship after you land it.

[@graveperil2169]

thats to make sure the wind has not blown it away

[@cy-one]

That's to make sure there's not some Bri'ish guy standing there saying "You can't park here, sir!"

[@surject]

That's to make sure your investment was worth it.

[@cy-one]

@@surject What kinda investment do you mean? The 50 bucks for the game itself? The made-up ingame currency? :D

[@surject]

@@cy-one Yes, that's exactly what I meant ;)

[@jrhames]

I’ve played all but star citizen. To this day, ED for me has the best space/flight sim controls and physics. SC looks really good, though. I really hope it lives up to the expectations when/if it’s released.

[@superhawk8921]

Elite Dangerous has some of the most gigantic missed potential I've ever seen in any game. The game is so close to being the best space-sim out there, but the devs have practically given up on it and it's just not quite there yet. Out of all of the space games I've played, Elite (imo) has some of the best flight mechanics which make me feel like I am actually a starship pilot, and it also has phenomenal sound design. Coupled with the fact that the entire Milky Way galaxy is in the game, and you have limitless possibilities. I just wish they could have somehow implemented proper atmospheric flight / landings, and done a better job with Odyssey, which imo was a massive letdown. That and the content in the game is extremely repetitive. It makes me sad tbh because I still love the game, but I feel like it could've been so much more if the developers actually tried.

[@chanman4rings]

FDEV stopped giving a fuck about it once they got involved with games and microtransactions. Sad, this game had so much potential if they just showed it a little love. The core of the game is great, just need something to flesh it out Elite's core game mechanics, with NMS exploration and planet generation, with Starfield's missions... what a game that'd be

[@Xionema]

The guild wars 2 of space sims

[@superhawk8921]

Yeah, I've always held the opinion that every space game seems to do one thing especially well. No Man's Sky has great exploration and base building, Elite Dangerous has incredible space-flight and a sense of scale, and Star Citizen has the most detailed and realistic universe. Now that I've been playing Starfield, too, the ship building is really cool, and the missions and storylines are fun and pretty well written. A combination of all of these games with their strengths put together would be the perfect space game.

[@yvannenikolainethercott5709]

True. At the time that Elite was new, it was the best sounding and piloting game I've ever played. I can't exactly say it's realistic, but the deep piloting mechanics were so great. There's a learning curve for "assisted" flight, but once you master that, you can go full manual and the piloting just opens up so much. Being able to out-manuever stuff even if I am just using KBM was so satisfying, what more if I had a full-blown HOTAS setup. My first ever landing was also the most memorable. It wasn't quite like the other. The sound effects REALLY made it so immersive and nerve-wracking, and it was a real complex task at first. It's such a missed potential, I absolutely agree. If the idiot devs didn't hire contractual developers to develop the first 20% of their game (bare systems, sounds, physics, etc.) and just literally hired the developers of Elite permanently, the game could've grown much larger and could've made them more money. But alas, they let go of the core team that made the game, and had to work with people who weren't familiar with the systems in place, leaving it in its basic form and having to improvise from it.

[@jasonsebring3983]

Star Citizen feels the most real by far. Seems like Starfield cops out.

[@jaymac7203]

I'm actually really enjoying Starfield but damn Star Citizen is just insane!

[@tarmel55]

this was cool to see. the biggest difference that SC has from all the others that his video didn't showcase, is you could have had player crew on board with you and all get out and drive a ground vehicle right off that lift. Elite had NMS have multiplayer(and ground vehicles) but not where you work together to fly one ship.

[@lottievixen]

i wish NMS had crew space like Elite and SC, both have very limited control for crew on the bridge without remote turrets. SC's weapon turrets are fun though

[@waynemaurice9598]

ED kinda does have this though

[@tarmel55]

@@waynemaurice9598 I don't play ED. I own it but I can never get into it. But I do try to keep up with the news. When did they add multi-crew? The last I heard you just teleported into your ship seat, I haven't heard that they added extra players on your ship. But the way I'm going to look it up now.

[@lottievixen]

@@tarmel55 it's had multicrew for a while since horizons I think, you can join people with telepresence and control guns and fighters. with Odyssey you can join in person too

[@tarmel55]

@@lottievixen makes sense. But you can't join a group of friends at a space port. Pile into one big ship or a few smaller ones even if there are not seats for everyone. Fly to a land mission to jump out before the ship even lands to raid the out post. From my understanding when ED was promising space legs players were looking forward to walking around their ships. But that wasn't delivered.

[@fattail01]

I'm shocked at how much of Starfield is using the ship, and spending almost no time actually doing anything with it.

[@V0V0o]

starfield cockpit view = space.jpg

[@azurmon]

Star citizen like trophy wife , very prity, stunningly beautiful but yet empty and dry like a desert

[@W00KER]

lol

[@4everfatjoe]

Elite clip made me miss playing that game. I remember I was shocked when I wanted to do a jump to a very close system and when my ship aligned for the jump I could visually see the star I am going to. Elite is like, "See that start, you can go there". Too bad there is barely anything do to(at leas when I played) but it creates feeling of huge scale.

[@Lando452]

The sound design in Elite is top notch

[@xShikari]

Elite Dangerous: You want what now? Atmospheric landings? Will you ever be satisfied... No Man's Sky: okay, here you have it, but don't expect realism. Star Citizen: Enjoy, since you seem to have too much time. Starfield: No way you are able to land THAT ship on a planet anyway!

[@bitrunner2000]

i mean, it depends on what you're looking for in a game - but from an immersion perspective, it's Star Citizen hands down and NMS in last place for me...i'd even rather have the cut scenes of Starfield then that weird color streaking "warp" or whatever it is in NMS.

[@MacinteuchPlus]

NMS is 60s-70s space sci-fi inspired so it's just very colourful and removed from the reality of things in our world

[@khaidircentaury]

Wait until you play in vr

[@Grim-HEX]

Ah the 600i, such a beautiful ship in such a beautiful game

[@Chuck8541]

You know, I always shunned the 600i cuz it looks like a beluga whale...but I do love Origin ships, with their 'Apple Store' aesthetic. haha Just went up to the 325a from my 100i starter. But this vid is making me consider that 600i next! It's really nice inside!

[@GamingTrivia1113]

@@Chuck8541 try the 400i it's a lot more aggressive looking than the 600i

[@Chuck8541]

Thanks, deffo will! I have a lot of grinding before I have to choose though. haha@@GamingTrivia1113

[@PatEagle787]

I prefer the 400i aesthetics.

[@entofol541]

@@Chuck8541 The 600i is being reworked and will be even better, I'm already hesitating between the Aquila and the 600i

[@snkmazda]

Starfield ships are just interactive menus. I wish I could fly around a planet with a scanner to find that sweet spot for an outpost with multiple resources instead of creating multiple procedurally generated maps hoping to get lucky.

[@michaelstryker72]

Elite will always be the best space game. Since it is based solely on a sim game, that x's play on all platforms.

[@fsu9511]

Everyone who writes that Starfield is like a game 10 years ago - you are optimists! Think about it, there's this old game called Freelancer, so how far is Starfield's space gameplay from that game? How much better is Starfield's engine than 2003's Freelancer. Of course, Freelancer did not make a poor shooter on the planets, only that's the difference. If the engine is patched up, then the same 4k textures and some post-processing, shadows, lights, etc. can be rolled onto it. There will be no difference, but that's because Starfield's engine is a slightly improved 2002 engine from Morrowind, even if you think about it, it will become clear from this position that Freelancer's engine is also newer by 1 year lol. Bethesda is stuck in gamedev 20 years ago and doesn't want to do anything about it. If Todd has been telling us fables about a super game for about 10 years and we got this piece of shit on the way out, then imagine what TEC 6 will look like. They don’t know how to make games anymore, their latest releases have finally made it clear that if there are no serious changes in the company, then it’s easier to close it, because apart from base shit they can’t do anything, and in the future with such a working staff they won’t will be able to make a normal product even more so. Worst of all, they made the latest games, realizing that they would release unfinished pieces of shit diluted with the work of some kind of neural network, arranged whole presentations telling us about how everything is wonderful with them and that they have been making the game not only for a year, but for a whole decade! And then they start selling this trash as real AAA games, wiping their feet on their fans and other buyers. Bethesda is a company of lying assholes who should already be tried for fraud!

[@EaglePicking]

Yeah I played Starfield and the engine is indeed simply too old. It just can't keep up.

[@robotsix6268]

TLDR: You don't know a single thing about game engines.

[@HollowBagel]

If you were expecting a massive space sim from Starfield, I don't know what to tell you. It's not Bethesda's fault you didn't know that it would be a Bethesda RPG set in space. Also, really disingenuous to say that the Creation Engine 2 and Starfield are shitty. You do realize it's a new engine, right? Have you played the game, or are you just parroting what all the other haters are highlighting about what's wrong with the game, and you don't actually know what the game does really well? Every engine in use right now is based on an older engine. GTA V and RDR2 are working with an engine that originated in 2006. That was used in a ping-pong game. As for the rest of your rant... I have no idea what some of the stuff you're saying even means. Todd hasn't been promising a "super game" for 10 years, it wasn't even revealed 10 years ago. It didn't even start development 10 years ago. It was announced in 2018. Starfield is also far from unfinished. It has content upon content upon content. It's overwhelming how many quests there are and places to go. You can pop into a settlement and get half a dozen quests that take you all over the game, not to mention the larger cities. Even though there are many problems with the game, the pros outweigh them. And most of the problems will be solved by mods, as with all of their games. Skyrim and Fallout 4 weren't particularly stable or outstanding at launch, but they're pretty damn good after years of modding. That's a big reason why they still use the Creation Engine. Because it gives unparalleled support for modders. There's even a mod out ALREADY that removes the borders of landing zones and makes the space virtually infinite.

[@dasluder]

@@HollowBagel for a new engine it's a pretty shitty engine that barely scratches 30 fps on new GPU's on Ultra settings. It's a fun game, but it's a terrible optimized one and also doesn't really have a place among ED, NMS and SC. It's a loadscreen simulator that just pops you from one instance into another and limits your movement. And as OP said, the best comparision is Freelancer and that has been well over a decade since. Again, it's fun and I enjoy it. But there should be more. Things like the loading screen to exit your ship is just ridiculous at this point, you can literally see the world from inside and yet, you still need to load another instance of the very same place you just landed on.

[@HollowBagel]

@@dasluder I doubt the engine is the cause of the performance problems. Bethesda probably just isn't good at optimization. Otherwise, I agree with everything else.

[@defeatedink0544]

Honestly I couldn't call any one of these games bad. If you want the most realism, I'd say go for Elite. If you want the most immersion, I'd say go for Star Citizen. If you want the most polish, I'd say go for No Man's Sky, and if you want the most story, go for Starfield. They all have their own charm, they all have their own quirks. I'd just say to keep your expectations in check when you go into them. Honestly I'd only really call Elite and Star Citizen true space sims, whereas Starfield and No Man's Sky are both games set in space. All great in their own regards.

[@LeonS.Kennedy-m9m]

you dont know fear until the first time you try to land a massive ship on a 3G+ planet in Elite Dangerous

[@tjgrant6471]

I have enjoyed all these games, I will say the flight model in Star Citizen is very unique and fun. The main issue I have with Star Citizen is of course the bugs. Since I started playing it 3 years ago, I have yet to see any of the NPCs in a space station or any space port on land do anything more than t-pose. It really is immersion breaking unfortunately. I've seen videos of NPCs walking around, but never had that on my end. I went ahead and uninstalled Star Citizen for now, but hope to return to it in a couple of years once they get some of the basic gameplay mechanics more bug free and won't do full progress resets with every point release.

[@aLovelyCookie]

Remember that it’s the only one here that is in alpha state, and it’s away much better than the others even with bugs

[@Kehvan]

I've seen them walk around. One day when I wasn't doing anything, I just followed one on a Lagrange station. He just walked all around the galleria level, stopping every once in a while, to lean on the railing or sit on a chair, but most of the time they do just glitch on top of a chair. But that side glance the NPCs give... creepy AF. I can't wait until they get that completed and integrate the NPC dialog with AI. I think it will be fun to mess with them.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Because it's a testing environment not a published title, yet

[@Chuck8541]

@@aLovelyCookie Absolutely. I have all but Starfield, and I can't believe all the cutscenes happening just to go from one room to another, or even down a damn ladder. And the 'press X to land' made me laugh out loud. Like what? lol Then you're instantaneously on the planet - with a cutscene of the ship landing? :))

[@koolthing2135]

@@Chuck8541Starfield is not a space flight simulator, it was never supposed to be.

[@Mr.Free2Play]

Gonna have to redo this video.....because that Citizen Con was a GAME CHANGER!! The hype is real! o7

[@GlarusGaming]

It indeed is! After making this video, I bought a RSI aurora and am now hooked. CitizenCon got me even more hyped!

[@S386LWBNM]

A very simplistic comparison, Atmosphere entry wise in Star Citizen there are two methods for it. The quantum atmospheric jump that makes for quickly getting around the planet to a ground destination, and shown here which is complete manual entry. There's also the third method which is a bug that dooms the ship within the gravitational pull of the planet and you find yourself plummeting to the surface in your space suit spamming the medical emergency beacon before you go splat. XD

[@xweirddudex]

or you QT straight through the planet lol only ever had that happen once to be fair. SC is still incredible.

[@GlarusGaming]

Hahaha, the third method sounds like fun. This was my first ever time playing the game. There was a quick tutorial, and then I was off. This is why it might not look super professional, but I gotta say the whole experience was amazing.

[@S386LWBNM]

@@GlarusGaming Definitely find yourself some companions or a beginner friendly org to help ya out in learning the ropes. It can get pretty lonely in the vast emptiness of Space. But all together, no matter your play style, Star Citizen gots something out there.

[@rankcolour8780]

You can do the same in Elite, but as the planetary bodies are much larger than in SC they probably wanted to do the quick version for elite for the purposes of the video.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

I thought the close QT markers are only temporary or lower than they will eventually be

[@adawg3032]

Damn. Love me some star citizen, been a while since i played. gonna update my launcher and hop in, my stick and throttle getting a bit dusty from being unused