Landing In Aspen With A 16 Knot Tailwind

[@pilot9030]

Excellent Aeronautical Decision Making, you made the call to not land with a tailwind and stuck with it. Also I love these videos keep them coming.

[@NachoSotoBustos]

I loved the video! The narration, talking about your thought process, is really top-notch. Already looking forward to your next video :)

[@ColinCutler]

Thanks!

[@hpnpilot1200]

Cool video, nice editing! We circle to runway 33 occasionally in the jet and it can definitely get exciting.

[@jayb2913]

Excellent video ! I love the explanation step by step. Very nice ! Looking forward to get my PPL someday.

[@mickythump1030]

such a good informational video really loved it.

[@SidarthDasari]

I'm not even a pilot but I love the views and the story behind flying

[@aviatortrevor]

You're right about not raising flaps. You'd probably unconsciously increase airspeed/groundspeed, and greater groundspeed = wider turning radius. Plus, raising flaps = potentially losing altitude if you're not careful. The 2006 Cory Lidle NYC Cirrus building crash was because he didn't plan his turning radius and was traveling fast. If he would have slowed down and dropped flaps before turning, he could have significantly cut down on his turning radius. As you said, you were flying at 100 knots, well above stall speed, and still had throttle response left if you needed it. Good decisions.

[@Martins968]

Watching this youtube channel for a while a really cool to see Swayne Martin in it, never realised

[@caboosesteve]

great video, great series. keep 'em coming!

[@n5127j]

Years ago we flew into Aspen in a non-turbo 310 and were n umber two behind Aspen Airways for rwy 33. As they landed I turned final and was set to land with full flaps but left the mixture lean. I was less than 300 feet AGL when the airline pilot said he was making a 180 to taxi back, The tower told me to go around which I did and came around landing safely. As I taxied to the FBO I noticed the mixtures were still lean and realized that had I pushed the mixtures forward in my initial landing approach , the engines would have quit as soon as I attempted the go around. It was pure luck that I didn't push in the mixture - I just didn't think about it.

[@EliH143]

I spent a decent amount of time last fall/winter flying in/out of the airport in FSX (a flight sim). It is a wonderful airport with plenty of challenges through the winter months. Wish I had seen a video like this during those times. Great to see the real world mountains after being around the virtual world ones. (The real world ones look much better, though the price of seeing them is much, much more:-) )

[@gopioneersgo]

Your videos are so well done, please make more!!!

[@chrissteer001]

That 8006’ becomes very short when you have a high Vref and a 10-15 knot tailwind at that high density altitude. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Aspen seems like an airport that requires some of the most planning for departure and arrival, especially in IMC, not to mention those extremely high climb gradients should you lose and engine.

[@PlaneOldBen]

How have I only just found this channel - great stuff!

[@noahhassell8154]

Id love get a new pair of Bose headsets like that mine are getting old and plus the bluetooth feature is extraordinary

[@nickm0418]

Great Video!

[@605pilot]

Just about every corporate jet I’ve flown has a 10 kt tailwind limit. I’ve flown into Aspen multiple times in my career and rwy 15 is the only runway to land in a jet and rwy 33 is for takeoff. ATC was delaying you for the departing aircraft since no jets were landing because of the excessive tailwinds.

[@RalphDratman]

Excellent, thank you!

[@YaofuZhou]

Hi Boldmethod, not sure if you take questions like this, but why is it never a technique to retract flaps to avoid/prevent excessive floating or bounce? Thanks!

[@scose]

wow so beautiful scenery

[@cokeforever]

Good management there. Were you close to fcm limit on tw? I also think there are about 3-5 empty 5-min slots to accomodate you on the other end... Still, its super correct that you teach to analyze hw/tw/sw conponent and if needed divert

[@vinsavi]

You just sold me on the Bose! , again top notch production, ADM, vid, narration! Just one suggestion, please don't put all your top talent in one basket.

[@farche2]

Curious whether y'all had made a retrospective calculation about how much runway would have been required, if landing with the RWY15 tailwind that day.

[@RM-my9dn]

Great Vid...

[@tutchngoes]

great vid ! that is the way to teach aviation, SAFETY first. you decide, your responsible for the safe completion of the flight, not the 'peer pressure or the tower. may the wind be at your back :)

[@jikcgu1234]

Is that one of the Cirrus' at Aspen flying club at KAPA?

[@equals3forum]

@Boldmethod What flight school are you with? im in the front range area and would love to get certified up on the cirrus

[@bkrichmd]

What altitude did you fly at from KAPA?

[@AleksUdris]

We flew out at 16,500 MSL - the mountain top winds were 40-50kts and 16,500 kept the flight smooth

[@bkrichmd]

It looked smooth.

[@ImNotADeeJay]

what are the masks for? not pressurized cabin?

[@florians.-sz.785]

Good! Clear explanations! Worth watching it more times. (Anyone knows the music in the background?)

[@Teachade]

If you circle over the city counter-clockwise when the tower clears you to land, you can roll out on base leg. This makes holding and the approach much easier. Also, you can cancel the terrain warning to keep that noise to a minimum when it's severe clear. The Aspen Flight Academy uses two DA-40 for flight training in Aspen. Most of our students are Aspen High School Students. AspenFlightAcademy.org, come see us, we can teach you about Mountain Flying!

[@5150dhbiker]

Makes me want to do a mountain checkout and fly into there.

[@jakeutne5593]

Could you guys do a video on common carriage and commercial pilot privileges and limitations? That has always been a confusing area for me.

[@InsaneMetalSoldier]

Haha I got a question. The cirrus (and all the planes with oxygen equipment) have masks ANDthese things you stick up your nose? because I was thinking about.... what if you have nasal congestion, you must breath with your mouth.

[@selimeylul8292]

Haha! Exactly what I was thinking about!!

[@Shergill7084]

noob question ahead: What app did you use on your iPad that gave you the messages over the Bluetooth?

[@Boldmethod]

Good question Keith - we use ForeFlight on our iPads, and connect them to our Bose A20 headsets through bluetooth. It's a great setup.

[@Shergill7084]

+Boldmethod thank you!!

[@stevenpam]

Foreflight

[@toddgilbey3979]

"How did we get here?" Ya flew there! 🤣🤣

[@hyseb2]

The title says landing with tailwind but eventually you land with headwind.

[@kevinwells7963]

I believe the video was actually about proper decision making. The title simply stated the scenario.

[@aviationandsimulationbyber9244]

Beuteous mountain and cockpit panoramas. The gas masks look mighty bizarre though!

[@marco_75.7]

Hi guys, what does "landing at eagle" mean?

[@TimWittwer]

Eagle is a near by airport

[@agentfpiu]

Is that Swayne Martin?

[@iamsionemafi]

We asked the same question 😂

[@bnecktr]

What is that white thing under theit noses?

[@flybyairplane3528]

Marat Vildanov a nasal cannula , as opposed to a full mask, that would have mike built into it .

[@kristian4559]

are those things attached to your nose for oxygen :P ?

[@stratosoundvox]

Lucky Gaming Yep.

[@Maldmorfs04]

why is every other airplane landing with tailwind? I dont get it. Arent airport suposse to change their runway to have head wind all the time?

[@devindb757]

Maldmorfs04 The airports location near terrain and mountains makes it so one runway is near impossible for most jets to safely make the approach.

[@Dunerino]

Aspen airport is restricted to landing on 15 and taking off on 33 for most faster airplanes (jets) due to the terrain surrounding the airport.

[@yhenry77]

Did you get the feeling after parking, you were a pair of brown shoes in a room full of tuxedos? A Cirrus would be considered a very nice plane at most small airports. How many private jets can you see and count? LOL.... I stopped after 35.

[@Streetfire98]

Tailwind is normal daily thing at KBFI. Freaking KSEA traffic

[@FWDSlip]

That's a hard call sign :D

[@linka1886]

Don’t forget to smile when you fly ;).

[@hwnlaxboy]

Oh cool if you see a navy blue jeep parked at the end of 35 at apa that's me

[@StortWeldingCoLLC]

You Sure???

[@iamsionemafi]

Is that Swayne Martin

[@ethanlarribeau5959]

oh hey swayne

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Pretty dumb to try and land in wring direction with that kind of wind on the tail. Could have been a fatal deal breaker.

[@Teachade]

Yes, some have tried high tailwind landings at Aspen, and it has not worked out well. NetJets, SkyWest all have tailwind limits along with specialized KASE training. That why they are great KASE frequent users! The last accident was a Challenger (from Mexico) that tried to land with a 38K tailwind. That resulted in an accident killing one - Injuring two.

[@eGidukasGP]

spoiler alert its an ADVERTISMENT!

[@cbwagner7269]

If that's all you got out of this, you're an idiot.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

CLICK BAIT. LIES. You didnt do what you say you did on the title. CLICK BAIT.. Im an EFATO and aerobatics CFI and you cannot BS me with this normal approach as a tailwind 16 knots.. BS.