Landing RC Planes for Beginners - Model AV8R Instructional Series

[@kevinmaxwellwilkin4915]

Nice video , areoscout is the best trainer hands down . Just so easy to fly . And repairs easy when you do break it , very durable.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Kevin. I agree, in my opinion the AeroScout is at the top of the trainer heap.

[@JustwingitRC]

Silky smooth delivery, teaching aids, and sage advice from an extremely talented pilot (not to mention the gifted camera girl shooting the planes!). It doesn't get any better than this 😎👍🇺🇸

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks John!

[@jollyroger2226]

Very well done ! It is obvious that 'Team AV8R' put a lot of thought and effort into this video. Thank you. I hope a lot of RC pilots are able to see and benefit from this !

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you very much! We hope so...

[@peterbridger8464]

Hi Adam. I found your video really helpful. I'm the lone flyer in Samoa so don't have the benefit of a club to go to or mentors to hassle. In fact, I believe those that view this, should actually replay it at least a couple of times as you make so many pertinent points. Your explanations are clear and concise - unlike, I must say, others that think they're are on Broadway. Any new video you come out with, I always view. I find SteffenRC is in a similar vein where he gives his honest opinions and genuinely wants to help his viewers. All the best and take care. Regards, Peter

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much for the kind words Peter! We're really glad the instructional vids are helping pilots. Will is a friend of mine...great guy!

[@JeffinLowerAlabama]

Adam fantastic landing instructional video. You showed flying the patterns from the left side and right side. Know RC pilots with years of “experience “ that can only land from one direction. 😊😂. Jeff in LA USA

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Jeff! Yep, I've seen that too.

[@RCCopterLove]

I am a RC collective pitch heli pilot but your explanations are so interesting and logical that you made me watch the whole video. There are many parallels to how I was learning to fly my loved helis: From the beginning I was switching off stability and used the fastest rates to get the "real feel" without having "filters" between my stickinputs and my machine. Flying precise to consistently hitting points was and is the other goal. You have a great way to explain things! Thanks from a heli freak!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much man! I'm glad it resonated with your experiences.

[@AL-RCjunkie]

What an informative and comprehensive video, Adam. Wish I'd had this to reference, this time last year, when I was blowing through props due to prop strikes on my landings with the FMS 1.3m pa18. Taught myself the hard (and expensive) way, that I wasn't balancing my elevator adjustments with throttle management properly for the area and conditions I chose to fly in. Granted, it was a busted up paved parking lot, behind an abandoned church with a big open field behind that- wind whipping every which way, dodging barbed wire spools and broken basketball hoops. Shady spot, at best. But, it sure did teach me to fly tight spots with some confidence. And handle some tricky situations without panicking. Well, delaying the panic until the plane was down and parked, rudder side UP 😊 Great video! I'll be recommending this to the annoying freeloaders that keep wanting to learn to fly rc on my planes 😂 👍

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much Al! Man a lot of folks do it the "Hard" way, but for many that is part of the fun. We hope this makes doing that for them easier. What a hobby bro...

[@GregoryC21]

Thank you for this. It should be viewed by all RC pilots. Having a clear checklist in landing is critical to consistency. Light winds and blue skies Adam.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Glad it is helpful, thanks!

[@robertott9286]

Great video, thank you for the explanation about how to land. I have a plan to work on now once the snow goes away.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Outstanding! Good luck with your practice, and thanks for the kind words.

[@reelemin7864]

Awesome video! I really appreciate the time you took to put this together. Excellent detail and explaining! Thanks for all your help.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much! Glad it is helpful.

[@JN24185]

Classiest, most professional RC Reviewer on KZbin. Hands down. I’ve had many successful landings but still learned so much from this vid. As always, Thanks Adam!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much, really appreciate that!

[@JacobiFamilyVideos]

This is exactly what I needed, thank you very much! I appreciate all that you have contributed to RC aviation.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Awesome, so glad this is helpful! Thanks very much!

[@Ibleeve283]

You jus taught me how to land! Thanks so much.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Awesome! Glad you found it helpful.

[@SteffenRC]

Adam, This is the BEST Landing video out there.. (and I've made two videos on this subject...). You have so much info here. Great job. This will help lots of new pilots build confidence in their landing practice... Well done..

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much Will. I appreciate you taking a look at it before hand.

[@kilroy691able]

Gotta tell you..I have not flown RC in 10+ years..yes I know the patterns etc..im.also a licensed pilot for private single engine planes with no high performance endorsement But...I found your video educational and refreshing to watch . Due to personal issues and health issues I have not had the pleasure to fly in about 10 years as well.yes the REAL scale planes . Anyway .wanted to say your video is spot on to me.maybe power off base and finals can be risky if you do stall at low altitude recovery may be difficult at best to your credit you did talk about stall awareness..just like stall training in the real ones , stalling at high altitude with RC planes as practice can teach how stalls look and how the plane behaves . That aside you stuff is good and I think it's a great help to those who maybe not have an instructor. I can say now I started with kit built balsa and monocote mid wing sport planes and after destroying 2 ..I gave in to a trainer and once humbled I was able to make real progress.. I had a few times only an instructor to help with the RC planes..and somehow I did manage to become an "ok" rc pilot.. Ok ..so that's my little scenario and the long way around again to say .thanks for the video again and wishd I had your video 25 years ago. Be well and all the best.. Roy H. From Orange County New York.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Roy, thanks so much for taking the time to write that. We really appreciate it. Means a lot. I hope you get the chance to fly again man. Have you thought about a sim just for fun?

[@kilroy691able]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Yes I do actually have the Great plains one with the flight controller that comes with it and I've used it intermittently and it does help. I actually believe it or not prefer it to fly first person view. You know fpv like I'm inside the plane because it brings back the memories of flying the real ones. I am actually planning the first time in these 10 plus years to rent a plane. I am licensed but I no longer have recency of experience nor do I have renters insurance which yes you need to rent a plane. So I'm going to go up with an instructor. But I will be in the pilot seat and actually get an hour of stick time. It's been so long. Yeah, thanks for the reply. Wish you best with your videos. I think it's well presented. You sound like a good guy. You know you're easy to watch easy on the ears. You're not overbearing. I think you have everything it takes to make a nice set of good instructional videos and you know you help other people by giving them the incentive and the knowledge they need. And it's a nice little little side gig. You know it's nice little thing to do. I wish you the best with it. Thanks for the reply and I won't fill up like a small novelette here in a reply. But yeah thanks a lot. Thanks for the well wishes my friend

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Man that is great. Have fun flying! I learned years ago in a 177 Cardinal and a J-3. Lucky enough to have a brother that was an instructor and Marine fighter pilot. I miss full scale flying, but damn its expensive now. I appreciate the kind words.

[@jcb6713]

great review and practice techniques...always good to refresh your flying skills....

[@alanburns819]

Best landing video i 've watched. This video help me correct man misunderstandings! I wait with anticipation the next video in the series. I hope the next one is "Landing RC with power for Beginners". Subscribed!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much! Glad it is helpful. Yep, the next one in the series will be controlled approaches and landing more advanced airplanes.

[@zubertish]

Much gratitude from a total Newb! I just bought that trainer (AreoScout) and this class was exactly what I needed! Thank you. 😊 As an aside: I realize that you have to be generic in instructions for most trainer types and with that said, the AreoScout actually has two index finger points/spots underwing to pre balance the plane without having to fly it. Gets the pilot/plane well within balance before even plugging in the battery. Pretty slick!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Glad it is helpful! Welcome to the hobby...so much fun. Yep, several planes have that. This doesn't relate to the AeroScout, but keep in mind, the manual or factory suggested CG isn't always the best CG for many planes. It might be a good place to start, but the CG can be moved around for specific performance reasons.

[@jmartin2711]

Hi Adam&Heidi, A great tutorial on the dynamics in landing techniques the correct way. I found the vid very useful for myself with key points to practice which I need to master. I was told by a club member to “fly the plane, don’t fly the money”, (as in the cost you paid for the plane), which in landings can be a distraction in over controlling. Thx for the help and advice as always!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks! We're glad it is helpful! Your buddy is right, you can't worry about the investment. Expect your trainer to have "character" by the time you're done with it, lol. Just part of the game. Don't be too timid to risk learning something with it. Focus on being smooth so you stay ahead of it. Happy flying!

[@IansRCExploits]

Some great tips Adam and not Just for the beginner pilot, I was particularly pleased to hear you talking about using the throttle to climb and descend, I do think that this gets overlooked a lot, very enjoyable and informative video!! Great Job Adam and Heidi 😀👍

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Ian! Yep, many think there is a problem with planes that do that...nope, just a characteristic.

[@stectom]

Too comprehensive? , no, I think it is perfect. We are going to learn to fly patterns and practice landing per your comprehensive demonstration. Thank you.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much...glad it is helpful. Happy landings!

[@Laszek11]

thank you for this video. Really looking forward to more beginner videos. I got my first plane ever FMS PA-18 1300mm a few weeks ago and got around 10 flights in. My landings were all over the place but in the middle gyro mode. Now I am going to work on my pattern!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Outstanding! Happy flying!

[@jeffreydavis4041]

I look forward to seeing the stabilized landings video. Great video!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much!

[@truenaturestormers2525]

First one, ya, I love the RC. You have an amazing channel. My Man

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks, glad you enjoy it!

[@amphicar55]

great series thanks so much

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Glad it is helpful!

[@oak3076]

Thank you very much for such valuable information.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Glad it was helpful!

[@zimboy777]

great instruction thanks the pattern flying is the routine I needed to hear - I repaired my aero scout and am loving honing my skills with it - noisy and bit frumpy but very forgiving 👊

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much! Glad it is helpful.

[@cooltube]

Adam………what BRILLIANT info/video this is!!!!!!! This all makes so much sense to me as I’m self taught and still learning. I can’t wait to try your power off landing approaches. Absolutely just what I’ve been looking for. 👍🏻🇬🇧

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much! Best of luck with your flying and we're glad this is helpful!

[@Bellairvideo]

Very wise information from a true professional… the only thing…. I wish he was my neighbour & not 15k away🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Maybe one day Noel...I'd love to fly with you bud!

[@Bellairvideo]

Ditto

[@john9663]

EXCELLENT advice and presentation! It is so much easier to be consistent with the "180 approach" than the squared-off approach. Looking forward to the next level with some wind, perhaps, and a less forgiving aircraft. Go team AV8R!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much!

[@PaulaLewis-r6g]

Your video's spot on

[@DadsRCHangar]

Brilliant video Adam, I will defiantly mark down video times for reference. One thing I would love you to do. With the A test in the UK we have what’s called ‘Deadstick’ you call this out to let pilots know you have no power and need to land. Now this can happen anywhere within the flight, To emulate that you have lost your engine, you need to land, no go arounds. The way I was taught by Paul Heckles is that you need to loose air speed to place the plane for a nice runway landing, this is still voodoo at the back of my mind. So be great to see a pro like you do it 😊.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much Chris! I tell you what, I'll add that to the more advanced video when we do it. I remember well my nitro flying days and a K&B .40 engine that didn't run worth a crap, Lol. Taught me more about deadstick landings than I ever wanted ti know.

[@DadsRCHangar]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Lookibg forward to your knowledge, might help me calm down in my head 😀

[@jayaustin3096]

Great tips adam. I self taught myself to fly some what, but i couldnt believe how easy rc planes are to fly. But so easy to crash. I was doing everything wrong. Although still fun. The wind gets me, way more practice. Your educational videos really help. Thank you. Damn wind these days. More power on turns!!!!. Lol.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Jay! Man there are a lot of ways to get flying. Wind can be an issue for sure. Like everything else, you get better with practice. Yep, a bit more power for margin in wind is a good idea.

[@jimmcewen8446]

I needed this, thank you!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

[@davidkimbler4744]

Very informative as usual. Thanks

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks!

[@AlToneRC]

Awesome landing video. I’m new to flying fixed wing about 2 years but about 4 years flying drones. FPV and Camera. I’m methodical about duplicating the feel of maneuvering making things the same every time. Like my trainer said put the plane. I’m the air exactly where I want it. I learned a ton from your vid as I always do. Sharing this vid and looking forward to the advanced version. 👍🏾😎

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks! Glad it was helpful!

[@marchindy]

Great video, I always tell people to dedicate at least 1 battery pack to practice touch and goes/landings every time you go out to fly.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks! Yep...great thing to do.

[@CliffHarveyRCPlanes]

Your remark at the end about shooting touch and goes is something that I like to do in all conditions ... grest fun as well also as the wind comes up everything changes. At my main club field the patch is a circle so cross-wind landings are something that we rarely do, we used to fly slope soarers on a slope with a small landing area so landings there really sharpened the skills. Great video Adam, I can see I'll have to follow your teachings if I'm going to video my flights from now on 😁👍

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Lol, Cliff I love your vids, and you land awesome. That is the nice thing about the "Patch". You guys use it like a WWI air base. Those baby's always need a headwind.

[@CrazyQuadBrothersP3]

Awesome tutorial! 👍🏻

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Retset]

Great tutorial.

[@sagacyberdemon]

This..... THIS!!!! Thank you so Much.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Happy to do it, and glad it is helpful!

[@JeffBrandt-p4n]

That was a very good tutorial, thank you. I'm in my sophomore year of flying, it's going well. Looking forward to your recommendations for windy days. I tend to keep the power in more.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much, we hope its helpful. You're on the right track there, you need power to manage windy days, and you need a plan. Think about the winds affect on the airframe ahead of your final approach...which way will it weather vane the tail and how do I need to plan to counter that control wise? Then of course...practice.

[@phillipbarnette4036]

Thought this was very helpful

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks, We're glad it helped!

[@sphinx12tt]

This video should be a must shown at all flying clubs before a person touches a model

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Ha! Thanks very much. Maybe before they try to land at least...

[@AlanMckenzie]

I LOVE this recording, very helpful. I wanted to kindly get your your take on if the AeroScout is right for me. I recently purchased the Super Timber without really learning how to land properly, coming from a small throw plane. My first few landings have been rough; I nose over each time but I feel I am getting better. Would you recommend me moving back to the AeroScout to learn fundamentals or would that further confuse me? Thanks for any recommendations you can provide!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much! So glad it is helpful! Yes, going back to basics and using an AeroScout would help you tremendously. The Super Timber is a great airplane, but it is heavier, more complicated, and somewhat harder to fly...especially for a beginning pilot.

[@AlanMckenzie]

@@ModelAV8RChannel thanks so much, cheers!

[@edinelsonramirez5656]

Thanks!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

You bet!

[@jacksampson7711]

Great video and valuable info. Build a flite test plane. They can take a lot of abuse.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks! Yes, they can. Something to consider though...the chances of a stark beginner that knows nothing building one straight that can perform with a good purpose built trainer are very slim. I think the key is not being afraid to use the trainer, and not falling in love with it. Its a tool. I tell all my students to expect their trainer to have "character" by the time they are dome with it, lol.

[@BrotherAviator]

Very well done Adam. You are an excellent teacher. Thank you

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much, glad it is helpful.

[@BrotherAviator]

I’ve been at this a long time (still not very good at landing) and I learned some new things from this tutorial. For me, that’s pretty much true for all of your videos. Please keep up the good work.

[@andretaskmaster4101]

Love the info

[@winfredhaan1]

Thanks for the lesson and video. I also have the AeroScout and have flown it a few times now. Trying to practice takeoff and landing. But I hear that I find it quite scary, the tension is high. I'm still on beginners mode and don't dare to take the next step yet. But with your advice I can practice further. And in between I take many breaks to relax..

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

You are very welcome and awesome you're in the hobby! You have the best trainer...have fun learning and your idea to push yourself a bit with breaks is great.

[@gplus1000]

Absolute newbie here. I don't have any time behind an actual r/c plane, but I've put in dozens of hours with my RF simulator. Thanks for this video as I don't have anybody for guidance just yet. Now I can put in a disciplined approach to my sim time. I do have a club I just joined and received my AMA card. The most difficult thing I have is depth perception of where my plane is even with a landmark. For example: Am I running parallel to the runway or fading away from it? How far am I away from the runway at my base leg? Hopefully, this will become easier to actually know exactly where my plane is in the sky in the future. Maybe this is an isssue of running my flight sim on a laptop with a 15" screen? Thanks for the video. I'll use it to my best advantage.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

I'm glad this is helpful! It is hard on a sim when it comes to pattern work when you've never done it for real yet. Interestingly it gets easier on the sim after you have the real life visual of flying a pattern. At first, the sim is great for learning orientation, keeping the altitude consistent through turns, practicing controlling your rate of decent, and learning to properly flare on landing. That all will help you when you work on patterns and landings for real the first few times.

[@letvalentino100]

Хорошие советы, спасибо!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks, hope it is helpful!

[@letvalentino100]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Да, ваши советы для меня будут очень полезны! У меня есть несколько авиамоделей. я пытался на них летать, и почти все они разбиты, увы ... Я ремонтировал, и снова пытался летать ... и опять они разбивались ... Теперь я буду учиться на ваших советах, постепенно. Спасибо.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Awesome, best of luck! Happy flying.

[@lindenstewart4404]

Model AV8R, Greetings. I am Linden Stewart from Georgetown Guyana in South America, that was some real Good demonstration on beginners RC plane landing , do you have any video on how to land a twin EDF RC jet for Beginners?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much Linden! We don't have a more advanced landing video yet, but we will do one at some point.

[@PaShaBaLaLaLaLa]

very helpful video, thank you. i am in the process of torturing the simulator and hope to switch to the model soon. have the airplane already but still dont feel confident enough to go out...

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

That's okay, keep practicing on the sim, and if you can get some help with your model from an experienced pilot on your first day out that will help you tremendously.

[@Friskee62]

My Aero Scout should be here in 2 days. We have a huge AMA grass field to fly and land on. Should be good...

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Have fun!

[@smoothrc28]

This video was perfect!! Thank You!!! Very new to Airplanes. Maybe I missed it. But when you say flare. Does that men elevator up?? Thanks!!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks! That is awesome. So glad its helpful! Yes, when we say pull...like you do with a stick or yoke in a full scale plane...that means up elevator.

[@SlowFlyer85]

Adam real good tutorial I still miss a lot of the landing approaches too long too short and with different planes they all do not land the same practice practice and more practice 😊👍👍👍

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Frank! Yep, practice makes PDG!

[@martymcbride3234]

Whatca think about the fms 1220 v2 ranger for a semi beginner..i subbed and told my buddies about your channel

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks, glad you like our channel. Check out 04:33 in the video. We mention the Ranger as one of our top 4 trainers out there. V2 added a wing spar which just made it better.

[@capitancairlblandford5785]

Good tutorial. Do you have one for the timber x?Every time i’m landing a timber x it seems like is a heavy bird and it drops hard on the runway. If i flare too high it stalls. If i cut the throttle right before landing it drops hard. If i keep throttle landing it rolls out kind of fast.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks. If you're landing your Timber X with flaps, you'll need throttle to overcome the drag. It's just a matter of practice and getting used to the particular plane.The Timber X will stall and drop a wing, its not like landing a good trainer. Mind you that isn't bad, just a characteristic you have get used to.

[@capitancairlblandford5785]

@@ModelAV8RChannel thanks

[@martymcbride3234]

P-40 🐯 lane om the wall would have been..bad ass

[@quilong]

damn, I was doing everything wrong! I'll practice tomorrow!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Hope this is helpful!

[@quilong]

​@@ModelAV8RChannelYes!, I just realized that I need to work on the basics

[@Acemedia574]

I gotta know where you got that Eagle shirt.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Amazon

[@GregJ228]

Common W by Adam

[@Anxmxc]

I find flying in safe is dangerous once you get used to the plane!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It has its uses for sure, but too many people starting out get dependent on it.

[@IvanMendez-s7b]

Hi buddy, I wonder if you can help me out my aeroscout 2 when I press up the control elevator, it will go up is supposed to be backward in any plane that I ever flew I am new in this place. Reply me back when you get a chance.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Gimbal (stick) towards the top of the TX should be down elevator, towards the bottom of the TX should be up elevator. When I say down and up...the back of the elevator is what you're looking at.

[@Stirling_RC_Videos]

Adam, thank you for this video. After watching it I went out the next day and did the entire day preparing by doing the patterns, then doing touch and gos with my FMS Ranger 1220mm. I probably did about 90 minutes of them thru the day in 2 different sessions. All in AS3X, again because of yours and Will's suggestions. I feel I made some major steps forward as I've seen in my latest videos. (This was the last of the nite...not perfect but I'm doing better kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3jcZH-vaZmIjqssi=U1blZl7ZzDnYNtcK) I'm looking forward to more in this series!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Outstanding Bruce! Glad the instructional vids are helping. Having goals and practicing to achieve them is what its all about.

[@ironmover5800]

Great video , being self taught I had an idiot for an instructor……. Wow I have a lot to learn yet about basic flying ……

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks man! You do great. Hopefully these vids will help others doing it exactly the way you did.

[@rlbutterfield]

Great video, Adam. Good reminders, even for us geezers. I did forward this video to a couple of friends and students. Looking forward to the next one. Well done, and thank you. 👍🏻🙂

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks man!

[@RameyOwen]

If a person ever gets to the point where they think they know it all and can’t learn any more about a subject, that is when they become dangerous!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Absolutely. I'll always be a student of the game. Life long students often make the best instructors.

[@bytex666]

Hoping this video will help me out, I broke the propeller the first time I tried to land my new RC plane with my instructor right next to me. Had to wait 3 weeks to get new ones, so I'm going back to him this afternoon and fly again. Hopefully not breaking something again.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Best of luck! Hope we helped you...

[@bytex666]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks, I'll definately give landing a shot again today. Last time I had a couple of good landings while he was watching, then he walked away to talk on the phone, and I figured I might aswell try again..but I tried to land downwind, so my plane went very fast, went around one more time, still downwind cut the throttle when I was almost touching grass, and the plane flipped upside down pretty fast. He turned around cos he heard it. "what did you do now? oh shit". Just broke the prop in half. Was my first "crash" in over 10 flights, but I let him land it before last time. We don't have a runway, just a gravel road and a knobbly huge grass field, so landing in the grass pretty much always flips the plane. But the road is thin and has telephone poles along, so I'm scared to land there. My plane is the FMS Super EZ v4.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Good luck with your practice. It won't always go perfect, but the practice will make a difference sooner than you think...

[@bytex666]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Yes at least a new prop is only a few bucks to replace :)

[@Cyberdyne_research]

I tried to take an ultra stick up after 500hrs on a simulator, and I lasted less than a minute. Simulators will not make you a good pilot. I built a 150mph jet and now I’m considering selling it and getting out of the hobby. I feel like I’ll never be able to fly this jet that is just collecting dust. Can someone please give me an order of operations to go from simulator god to irl maverick.. I can do all kinds of tricks in a sim and land every time, but I’ve never successfully flown and landed a real RC aircraft. Which beginner should I buy?(seriously considering aeroscout rtf) and how to transition from that aircraft to jets, and then crazy high speed jets.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Simulators can absolutely help make you a better pilot, but they aren't magic. You went from a sim to an intermediate plane. It's always different when it's real. Factors like nerves, wind, out of trim new plane (also probably poorly set up because that isn't as obvious as it seems), etc. really have an affect on your chances. A dedicated trainer like an AeroScout is what you should be starting with for sure, and get help from an experienced pilot familiar with that airplane. Get them to test, properly set up, and trim it for you. Jets are a ways off, you have to walk before you run just like in full scale aviation. A fast jet is probably 3 to 5 planes away in progression depending on your progress.

[@Cyberdyne_research]

@@ModelAV8RChannel so how do I go through that progression? And I know I set up the plane correctly. I’m an excellent builder. I have complete confidence in my ability to set up and trim an aircraft, no matter the power plant. I totally agree with you that sims can work, but they aren’t a perfect 1:1. Someone on discord told me I’d be able to fly and grow into the eflite ultra stick 1.1, but I think you are right and it was too advanced of a plane. Thanks for being honest with me. I won’t take it offensively. I know you don’t know me, but rest assured that I can build a plane properly, and I’ve spent a long time studying how aircraft work. I just have to get my muscle memory and my nerves. My nerves freaked out and I high sided into the wind. So back on topic: after the aeroscout(which I know is roughly 1000hrs of flight later) what plane is next? Do I go immediately to EDF after that if the EDF is a docile plane? Can I cut that “5 planes later” down to 3?(for money sake). I have an eclipson cobra that weighs about a kilo and has a .9:1 power to weight ratio and is only capable of about 60mph. It’s about as docile as a jet can get. My plan(after like 8 revisions) now is to get a rtf aeroscout, and realflight, get 1000 hours on that aeroscout, then do the same with my cobra, then get a freewing twin 60mm f14 Jolly Roger(is very docile for a fast jet. Has a stall speed of just 30mph) and get 1000 hours on that. Will I be ready for the freewing 90mm F22 8s by then? I’m a caregiver and we don’t make much money, so I have to be careful about how I spend it. Is my plan decent, or am I skipping steps again? Thanks so much for your advice and tips. Feel free to be as brutally honest as you want. The above plan only costs me two aircraft, because I already own the other two. I built the F22 monster long before I understood the size of the mountain I’d have to climb. Thanks again 🤴

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Wow, lot to unpack there. Lol. So right off the bat, nothing I say is meant to be offensive, and I have no problem being honest. BS'ing you won't help you. That said you need to be prepared to hear things you may not want to hear. So first off, it doesn't matter how much you've studied how planes work, that doesn't mean you're magically a great builder and that you know how to set up and trim a model plane properly. There is way more to it than making sure the control surfaces are centered and moving the right way. The final set up requires tuning based on what a pilot feels after flying the plane...and that is based on what the mission for the plane is. Any plane can be tuned to be more or less capable, and more or less challenging. This tuning can take several flights and can require not only adjustments in the transmitter but also mechanical adjustments to the airframe on the ground. To have that feel and be able to tune the plane properly you need to first develop feel and learn what all the aspects of tuning are...that takes time and requires experience. Control throw varies based on feel and the mission. CG varies based on feel and the mission. Expo varies based on feel and the mission. Gyro tuning (an art in and of itself) varies based on feel and the mission, and yep...all these things can change how the model has to be trimmed. Set up isn't just "what the manual says"...that is merely a starting point. If you can't successfully takeoff, fly, and land a Ultra Stick with precision, trust me...you can't properly tune and trim a model. That isn't a bad thing...you are a beginner...that is normal. I've taught multiple full scale professional pilots to fly RC. I've even taught a couple of aeronautical engineers plenty about flying RC. No amount of full scale experience translates to "I know how to trim and set up a model". It is very different. Models and full scale planes fly in the same atmosphere, but you can't scale down the atmosphere, just the models. Models weigh a fraction to scale, so they have a very low Reynolds number, which means while the principles of flight are the same for everything, some things have to be accounted for with a model in both design, set up, and operation that differs from full scale quite a bit. Of course having some aviation knowledge can help, but it doesn't mean learning to fly a RC model line of sight is going to be easier or harder than it would be for anyone else. Next...when it comes to sims...set up of the plane in the sim, as well as setting up variables and conditions has a tremendous amount to do with weather or not it is realistic. Proper practice on a sim can do wonders. Still, having an actual model at risk presents variables you can't fully prepare for with a sim. Next...your thousands of hours plan is way off man. It doesn't take anywhere near that long if you do it right. Also your plane to plane plan is off as well. There are suggested paths, but nothing set in stone. I've had students that could go from a trainer to flying the FW 90mm F-22 in a few months while using three planes, and others that have flown for years and still couldn't. It just depends on the person, what kind of training they get, and how much...and how well...they practice. There is no definitive "get this, then this, and then this" path. Everyone is different. So, my advice remains the same. Get a trainer, then get an instructor, listen to them, learn, and practice. You'll be flying a F-22 before you know it. Get help from the guy/gal at a club that you see flying the kind of high performance planes you want to fly...and that flies them well. At the very least get them to help you set up your trainer and take you through some basics at first. You can practice on your own soon enough. After a bit of practice on your own, go back to them and let them judge how well you're doing, and what plane you should go with next to help you get to where you want to be. This is, inmy opinion, based on my experience... the best, fastest, and most economical way to achieve your goal. You can "teach yourself" with reading, tutorials like this one we made and such, but you're going to crash a lot more. You're going to spin your wheels more. You're going to develop bad habits that make it harder more. For some, thats just the way they want to do things. That is fine. But that takes longer, and can end up costing more money in parts, planes, etc. Yes, club memberships cost as well. Bottom line...its gonna cost one way or the other, and you'll need a club/FRIA or a ton of your own land with a runway to safely fly the kind of high speed planes you want to fly anyway. We made this instructional as comprehensive as we could to help folks like that as much as we could, and to help people with instructors as well. It's good, it useful, but there is no substitute for someone right there with you to keep you from developing bad habits, keep you properly challenged, and see to it your practicing properly. So finally...this idea you have that you're confident in your ability to build, set up, and trim is faulty to be perfectly honest. If you knew as much as you think you do...you wouldn't need any help. You're new man. You don't know much. That is okay, that's part of being new. Not a bad thing at all. Be humble, be okay with not knowing much right now...that will make you a better student. Again...this is not meant to be offensive. I sure as heck wouldn't take the time to write all this just to insult you. This is meant to help. Bare this in mind...I have this RC model plane stuff mastered...and I'm still a student. Still learn new stuff about it all the time. Good luck, happy flying!