LoudMe: Suno and Udio AI Music Generation Competitor (First Look)

[@LanewoodStudios]

What do you think? A serious competitor? EDIT: It has been brought to my attention that LoudMe may actually be using the Suno API in the background via Suno's free accounts, so without being licensed to do that. If that is the case this is actually a very shady practice, and quite a scam in AI music generation. Not exactly sure what is actual fact and rumour at this time but it is probably be wise to be very careful to give your payment details to LoudMe at this time now that they have started with paid accounts. I may follow up on this later with another video once the dust settles a bit.

[@frankhovis]

Nope. Its exploting free accounts and using Suno for the actual music creation.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Interesting, do you have a reference for that, because that seems like pirating. Or is that licensed somehow?

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@frankhovis are you referring to this information perhaps? www.reddit.com/r/udiomusic/comments/1f099ku/opinions_on_loudmeai/

[@ThomasJansen-z1p]

No, not against udio.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@ThomasJansen-z1p lack of features so far?

[@ThomsenTower]

I read speculation that LoudMe is just using a Suno API. It certainly seems extremely similar, in user interface and in resulting songs, although Suno works better. We shall see how it develops.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Ok, had not heard about that but it indeed looks very similar to Suno.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Are you referring to this information perhaps?

[@ThomsenTower]

@@LanewoodStudios I saw your question with the link in another reply. 🙂 I hadn't seen this specific post, but it is the same info. I probably saw it as a Comment in some other video.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@ThomsenTower ok thanks. Was just wondering where this idea is coming from but multiple places it is then 😉.

[@frankhovis]

Its not speculation, there is proof that it is somehow using Suno for its music creation. Likely its creating accounts on Suno and exploting their free user system. You'll notice the loudme website pop up a message every 10 mins or whatever that its "been updated" and you need to reload. The songs you make on Loudme can be found on Suno too. Its a scam of some sort. Or maybe its magic that the song whos url ends /song/32688b35-b2ec-4a21-96db-d233018e9bf0 on the suno website was made on Loudly and has the url that ends /m/cm0c9cff3008xopg8m64dsgpy ?

[@agressteve5008]

AI is a new tool we need to learn work with it. i guess. welcome to the future!

[@LanewoodStudios]

Yes I think so too.

[@RockstahRolln]

Absolutely!

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@RockstahRolln 👍

[@chillwalker]

"We discussed this before. Loud AI: Thats 100% suno, somehow. I generated about 500 Songs in the last months to learn all about prompting, how many Generations it needs to start "thinking" out of the box etc. I noticed all the recurring patterns. And what this AI does sounds exactly like SUNO. The same progressions, the same rhymesters. I told you I am working on a virtual Artist. She's bored. And you are right: When you do your own lyrics, the fun begins cause it seems to understand them and the music will be way more interesting then the generic stuff. No-One ones why and whats the move here, my guess is, its kinda protecting the Suno AI and its existence for all the LAW Suits that are coming with some new feature....

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@chillwalker interesting. Your the second one that told me that LoudMe is using the Suno API.

[@chillwalker]

@@LanewoodStudios its obvios in every generation, in every vocal and in every chordprogression. I think it has something to do with the lawsuits they are facing to somehow transport the model into something else if suno has to shut down. But thats just a guess from some-one who knows nothing about the legal situation ;-)

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@chillwalker ok thanks.

[@zottelhuepfalien]

I also have the impression that Loudme is not much different from SUNO. When you have generated a lot of songs, you realize the similarities. The only difference is one more input field to describe the song. Which is a bit buggy, because Loudme suddenly uses this description field as lyrics when you switch to instrumental. What really bothers me is that you can no longer delete anything. With Suno I can at least delete songs that I don't like.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@zottelhuepfalien yes it is very similar but with fewer features. I’ve heard it suggested that it is actually the Suno engine being used.

[@Angel-g5f2b]

Do you know if LOUDME could have a similar problem as SUNO and UDIO because of the SONY lawsuit? I mean, do we know if LOUDME, like SUNO and UDIO are suspected to have done, also trained its AI with music from famous songs protected by copyright?

[@LanewoodStudios]

I'm not sure about that. But there are reports that LoudMe is in fact Suno. See my pinned comment.

[@Angel-g5f2b]

@@LanewoodStudios I think so! Surfing KZbin today to find out more about Loudme and see if with this application I could be more relaxed about the repercussions of the Suno/Udio/Sony trial... I found this video, which has baffled me, from a certain Rintantal who created his music on LOUDME, and it automatically appears as having been created on the SUNO platform as well!!! What is this?????? Here is the link to that video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGncp5mBqr-brtE

[@lucasthivas-hu9iu]

crazy pop.

[@LanewoodStudios]

😇

[@vandub7140]

hello, I have a problem with LOUDME, when I edit a piece there is a voice that says what I wrote in description or in style, I put instrumental and it continues to say what I wrote as description, do you have the same problem or a solution? THANKS

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@vandub7140 I haven’t tried that yet. Did you put it in brackets like in the other tools?

[@zottelhuepfalien]

i have the same problem, when i choose "instrumental". It works, when i have lyrics in the Lyrics field and instrumental is inactive. :(

[@philjohnson725]

It's OK(ish). It needs work. Staying with Suno for now. Will check LoudMe regularly to see if it improves, but I think it needs some more work.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Definitely needs some work yes.

[@PoliticoMLT]

Apart from the fact that this is no longer free, audio quality really sucks compared to Suno and most particularly Udio

[@ErixSamson]

Sonauto is also interesting, because it generates independent stems.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Heard about that but haven’t tried it. Are the stems separated from the stereo files or are they native/as generated separately by the AI? Because that determines how clean they can be.

[@philjohnson725]

No it doesn't. It's just an AI stem splitter that damages the music in the process. Just as bad as Suno's stem splitter. Just as bad as all of them. When AI music generators start making music and record everything in separate tracks during the creatin process, then I'll be interested.

[@ErixSamson]

@@philjohnson725 I was not sure, did you check that with them, or through your onw testing?

[@LanewoodStudios]

@philjohnson725 that would indeed be the ultimate way yes.

[@lovethepiano]

LoudMe is ignoring a lot of the prompts I give it. When i want an instrumental piano solo, i get singers. And when I prompt for a slow piece it will give fast pieces. But I do like what I heard.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@lovethepiano yes there is definitely still room for improvement 😉.

[@YasserA-G]

السلام عليكم I wish we could separate the music from the singer's voice and put another voice... Is there such a site? ...تحياتي الك

[@LanewoodStudios]

Both Suno and Udio now provide some sort of vocal/stem separation but it is basically the same quality as if you did it yourself with third party software (e.g. SpectraLayers).

[@RockstahRolln]

Yes, you can! You can create a song with lyrics in Suno and Udio, then you have the options to get the STEMS in both of the applications. You can download the instrumental stem OR you can use the vocal and change it who you want to sound like. Great stuff!!

[@markwilson1446]

I wonder how it would sound if mastering techniques are applied?

[@LanewoodStudios]

Well these tracks are pretty loud and crushed already so I think some AI mastering has been done already.

[@markwilson1446]

Wow thanks

[@LanewoodStudios]

@markwilson1446 you’re welcome!

[@timothyvass]

Loudme is definitely using Suno API. There is no speculation about that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKmyiol8iZurY5o

[@arlenebrown2184]

Not even 3 minutes in .... @2:47 sure sounds like "Body Like a Back Road" by Sam Hunt.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Really? I don’t know that song but will check it out.

[@AlexaDigitalMedia]

This is basically a clone of Suno. Still scratchy audio. Once this is no longer free, I don't see anyone leaving Suno, unless this is cheaper, because it is exactly the same across the board. Same sounds quality, same writing quality, same interface. I prefer Udio because it has useable audio quality.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@AlexaDigitalMedia we’ll have to wait and see whether it can compete. I do like that it already has a couple of features the other ones do not have.

[@hertzouttahell]

We need to stop this AI thing or Arnold will come soon and determinate us all. 😂

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@hertzouttahell 😂

[@dodgingrain3695]

Doesn't look like it will replace a mixing engineer anytime soon, those are rather boring mixes, poor use of backing vocals, poor use of effects, no variation between sections, etc.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Still some work to do for us yes :)

[@JoeNic1206]

Loudme - kzbin.info/www/bejne/janPh4irhJl1q8k

[@FurrybeansMusic]

Here is more proof that LoudMe is just using Suno to generate the music: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3amYamfjLKNfrM

[@James-w8x1q]

AI song applications are GREAT for song writers who write their own lyrics but do not have a band to play their music. It is CRAP about all the "Original Artist" pure as wind driven snow!!!! They USE DAWs with all kinds of AI instruments, melodies, and other enhancement in creating their music!!!!!!!!!!! It is amazing how if you take Stems from a song and examine the vocals, they do not sound any better than anyone else. It is the music that goes with the voice that creates a great song. And again, the music industrty is already using computer application enhancements in their work flow to create music!

[@LanewoodStudios]

👍

[@DJ_MELOMIX_AI]

pay pay page, suno clone, not free credits more

[@LanewoodStudios]

Yes, see my pinned comment.

[@AMBIOSIS]

They're all generic mush. Good for inspiration?, maybe, maybe not.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Ha ha …. ok I’ll go with maybe … at least 😉

[@Harrysound]

It is surprising how fake the acoustic guitars always sound, not sure they can ever be recreated

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@Harrysound yeah those are always a challenge.

[@JanBechtum]

I tried metal songs. They suck! UDIO is way better with metal.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@JanBechtum didn’t try that one myself. But Udio all the way for that genre then.