China Just Built 1 Billion Empty Houses for Nobody

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The Chinese government just accidentally admitted (and then censored) the fact that there are now between 1 and 3 billion empty homes.... this is bad
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[@yarrlegap6940]

None of this is a surprise to me. I was training Chinese spies ... excuse me, I mean engineers ... before you were out of diapers. My counterparts went on to be millionaires and some might qualify as Bond villains. ... And I'm telling you. We did this. The whole eco-BS is smoke and mirrors and what's happening to the Chinese is planned. The real trouble is that the people behind the curtain have had trouble turning the West into China. That's why our borders are being flooded with 3rd world illiterates and violent criminals and the mentally ill. ..

[@yarrlegap6940]

If China is going to collapse ... it better hurry and do it before the lunatics exhaust our fossil fuel supplies ...

[@michygeorg]

The fact China has used more concrete in three years than the US did in a hundred is 🤯

[@RicArmstrong]

Yes, but Chinese concrete is very low quality.

[@MasticinaAkicta]

You CALL it concrete, but is it?

[@horustrismegistus1017]

​@@RicArmstrongFalls apart like mud when hit with water, or gripped by a womans hand. Seen countless videos of them complaining, and of their cities falling apart.

[@ruskip]

Yes, just to fudge their GDP numbers

[@jigsaw99]

you mean tofu?

[@zericle1]

I'm always baffled to see the sheer amount of waste that the Chinese government just allows to happen.

[@EliTecapture-ru3vw]

It's one way to enslave their people

[@darthlaurel]

This is the delusion of communism.

[@resmarted]

That's what central planning does, always.

[@llortaton2834]

*promotes

[@DK-ev9dg]

​@@EliTecapture-ru3vw😂😂😂😂😂😂now you have lost all the logic. America pushes low incomes on to the road then? Right. And hates middle class

[@glenclark777]

I'm so glad you and Serptenza post the truth about China. We don't get this from anywhere else. Thank you!

[@Alipotamus]

I follow “China Insights “ on KZbin. Excellent

[@Mrgs168]

Brother! Can't you even afford a plane ticket to China? Work hard and earn money. If you have the opportunity to come to China, you can trust me privately! I'll treat you to dinner!

[@SuperMikado282]

@rickybarber347 I don't know where that came from, but I have deleted it.

[@FarmerKen355]

I have been watching the two of you for about ten years now. I am an American living in Australia married to a woman from Hong Kong and I appreciate your travels around China I have found it very informative and I suspect that if the PLA knew what you were doing you might have disappeared in Outer Mongolia. Watch your back mate, your reach now is such that I have no doubt they see you and you are in their cross hairs.

[@superscatboy]

The fact that homeless people aren't rushing to squat in these buildings says a lot.

[@Jet-ij9zc]

Bold of you to assume the homeless aren't sent to the gulags

[@paco291]

Can we send ours there? 🇺🇸

[@user-sk5fb1ix3t]

but china has no homeless people,u should go to china and see

[@bloodstripeleatherneck1941]

​@@user-sk5fb1ix3tjust filthy deviants in gulags.

[@BrutusAlbion]

Right ... their not homeless, they're just voluntarily living under a bridge 🤣@@user-sk5fb1ix3t

[@richarddraggan8290]

As president Xi said once in an interview. "The main thing that keeps me up at night, Is jobs. Working people do not protest" I am guessing this is also a huge reason for building pointless projects.

[@richardsoult5678]

From one Richard to another please think what the real reason is and then you will see how brilliant this is.We know world war three is right around the corner with the invasion of Taiwan which will means many cities will be destroyed so do you wait for your cities to be destroyed to rebuild or have the buildings there already and with no people living there it is not a target.When you think of the future and know a great war is to come then you will realize this is a brilliant move.

[@lokin4truth]

Well the house of cards built by Xi is tumbling to the ground...literally and figuratively!

[@user-ru5im2zx7t]

Probably. It is very hard to have all 1 billion+ people employed. China is just too populous to handle in my opinion, so he’d rather waste things (build and then demolish the excess in order to keep people busy) than have a massive protest and risk of losing his chair and even his communist empire.

[@kenkruger481]

It was very apparent to me on my first visit to China in 2003 (Shenzhen). They were nothing more than a "paper dragon". The breathtaking architectural landscapes viewed from afar could not account for the many cracks that I saw in new construction, especially the new and prestigious China Bank in the city center. And I didn't even mention the stench emanating from every waterway. Shenzhen was like viewing a stately forest miles away only to find that the trees there were diseased.,,,,That impression has been etched into my memory forever.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

All these buildings have contributed massively to China's "economic miracle" and it's supposed new wealth. Unfortunately for the Chinese a lot of that economic growth is fake.

[@nikolaizaicev9297]

Sure bud, that is why this channel and dozens of overs have to pour dirt on them on a daily basis, and why officials from USA and Europe have to fly to China and beg them to reduce their production. All because they are a "paper dragon", continue to kid yourself as this dude does.

[@bgregg55]

It's important to understand they aren't homes. They are just unfinished concrete shells of buildings without electricity or plumbing. And they are falling apart within a very short period because very substandard concrete was used.

[@asandax6]

It's incredible how China builds these huge sand castles that appear as real buildings.

[@Cau_No]

They saw the movie "Inception" and thought: Hold my beer …

[@J.Paul2023]

Unfortunately by some of the videos that we see regarding that, they need better control on corruption as some builders will do everything to get rich off the government.

[@soom878]

haha nice one :DDDD

[@lainiwakura1776]

@@J.Paul2023 Good luck with that in a communist country.

[@HydraSumit-qm9fq]

And quality

[@parkerault2607]

Seems like they could save a lot of effort and pollution by just paying half the people to dig holes and the other half to fill them in.

[@tankg9263]

Yes but giant holes don’t look good in propoganda

[@nathancoronado8408]

😂😂

[@Cwgrlup]

Its a miracle you got out of this country and didn’t end up disappearing into thin air. Glad you got out. I know so many people who have vacationed here-including my husband when he was young-and I have never had the desire to go there.

[@BrianWelch-kj9qs]

The Concrete Confessional blog guy has some insane stories about being an educational consultant for the children of China's elite politicians / businesspeople/ celebrities. The first part is called "I Was Simon Song." It's def worth checking out. He was in Shenzhen during the COVID lockdowns, the A4 protests, and the pro-democracy riots in Hong Kong, as well.

[@merrydaye4763]

That was a great read thanks!

[@biiyen8458]

I'd rather spend a month in some abandoned house dating back to the Spanish Inquisition than stay a single second inside China's paper-mache buildings

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

i think they will hold together if you avoid release a fart in them, idk if they are fart rated.

[@uhforja]

Hey. I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!🤠

[@MortiXD09]

​@@lokelaufeyson9931they are, but only passed becouse of bribes.😂

[@raidzeromatt]

Remember when people were afraid of China invading the US? 😂

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

To be fair, the preferred house sounds pretty cool.

[@JohnJBrowne11209]

My youngest sister and her family lived in Hong Kong for about four years. My brother in law worked for an Australian tech company which did a lot of business in the Mainland. During one vacation in Mainland China they and their three children (all under 10 years of age) toured a new housing development. When the Sales Manager saw my niece and nephews running around the playground she came over to my sister and brother-in-law and offered them a rather decent amount of money just to have the kids come and play in the park every day. She told them having foreigners ESPECIALLY Americans living in your development was a huge selling point and even more so if there were American children. She was really disappointed when my sister told her they lived a few hundred miles away in Hong Kong

[@dwaynejones1555]

Very clever.

[@jamesg1501]

That's crazy!

[@gaius_enceladus]

@JohnJBrowne11209 - Sounds like it was all about "face". The foreign children gave the woman and the housing area more "face".

[@biswaranjanpanigrahy98]

​@@gaius_enceladusmore like making a scapegoat

[@C5Dynamite]

lol, kids starting their white monkey career early

[@TerrenceBosworth]

This has been going on for at least 10 years. For 30 miles out from south Beijing fast train station there were 20 story towers ( all the same design mostly) on both sides of the railway line stretched to the horizon.

[@zacksmith5644]

Cry more

[@Iggy1008]

This is what happens when the government has so much power and there’s no competition. That’s why property should be owned by people and businesses.

[@tarstarkusz]

Nonsense. This is happening all over the world.

[@bbrebozo6417]

It’s called gaming the system. That’s the only thing local officials know how to do, game the system to extract money from the central government.

[@mikemiller659]

CORRUPTION IS THE RULE, POORLEY built products ARE the result. its called ToFu Drege

[@Psychiatrick]

"Government" has no $$$$ ... Government's SOUL responsibility is to create debt then give off land etc. in lieu of debt. When all $$$ is given, and still there's debt, the Voters then give up their lives ... Maga is what mRNA is all about!

[@brettrobinson2901]

​@@mikemiller659ToFu Drege....mmm..mmm...sounds TASTY!...

[@T0tenkampf]

I used to work for one of the largest manufacturers of Chemical Emissions Monitoring Systems in the world, we never sold a single one into China. Sure, they said that was because China requires projects like that to be mfg with 51% Chinese labor and materials but our Shanghai based office never reported that many sales either.

[@BjorgenEatinger]

Biggest polluter in the world, and nobody is doing ANYTHING about it.

[@X-Prime123]

It doesn't matter in what country, housing speculators are parasites.

[@Teriannd]

Houses?! They look like jails.

[@vincentxie3090]

Imagine how many residential problems are happening right now in most parts of China, and the fact that many people are suffering due to not having enough high income to afford better estates which allows this to happen that poorly

[@Greg-yu4ij]

Have the homeowners buy out the developers then combine 4 apartments into 1 and let the new AI robots maintain them. The extraction space could be used for larger families. This could solve so many problems. We are on the verge of the most fantastic amazing world yet we gravitate towards the ideas of the past. The wars of the past. The hatred of the past. Xi is teaching a valuable lesson. Survival of the fittest. Fighting yesterdays war, The attitude of kill or be killed leads us all nowhere but to a quagmire of mistrust. By ramping all that nationalism up to a 10 he is helping china and the world get it out of their system now before AI lets us wage an apocalyptic war and we’re all eating bugs to survive

[@pablo4yu]

Its funny because they’re communist… they’re supposed to assign you living quarters…

[@RecoverandRestoreOTA]

Sounds like Bidenomic

[@eeetuman]

"90% of all cranes are in China" That mention used originally to be the sign of growing economy. Making cities of empty apartment buildings.

[@argonyuanlagansua1210]

Even Filipino cities that doesn't have much buildings and doesn't look improved is full of people and not a ghost city. China just doesn't admit that they're infastructure and urbanization is horribly useless. They are more corrupt and waste alot of funds, resources and money

[@robqwertyuipp8750]

Send all the political and environmental refugees there , they have homes to move rite in!

[@PCSamsung-qp2wv]

Imagine how much wealth is being skimmed off these projects by corrupt politicians and contractors, has to be mind-boggling. We're talking many many trillions. That's probably three quarters of the reason for it.

[@audleong7250]

I heard from a source that a nail costs several thousand yuan as quoted in tenders for high speed rail across the entire country

[@gazzman6547]

It's about growing china fake gdp. Ccp keep building tofu buildings to inflate their gdp.a

[@Samookely]

this has undoubtedly had a global effect

[@UnnamedBridgeburner]

This is the country that we’ve all been led to believe is an economic and military match for the USA.

[@elishh8173]

I still think USA would win a war between the two. But unfortunately for us regular people that kind of war would kill off the majority of humans and animals in the world. And plants. So in the end we would all die, because of the aftermath of the war. That's sad and frightening to even think about.

[@RogueReplicant]

​@@elishh8173You are clueless and naive. The USA would win in a few weeks without having to fire a single shot. Blockade the Strait of Hormuz and the arrogant copycats will collapse in a month.

[@tribalismblindsthembutnoty124]

@@elishh8173 china would fail in an attack, like they always do. They also do not have God on their side. China plus russia together would not defeat the usa. China+Russia+NK+Iran+Iraq+SaudiArabia+Turkey+Indonesia could not do it together. As long as we keep protecting israel, we will have God on our side.

[@dannystalford5029]

the USA does the exact same thing mate... The US VASTLY over-manufactures weapons, munitions & bombs. The huge majority of which become decommissioned after expiring or sold onto contractors and end up god knows where. Bombs that have no economic benefit, and put 0 growth back into the economy. Either ending up in a landfill or blowing innocent people to smithereens somewhere on the other side of the world. Then we can talk about the TRILLIONS spent on "green energy" solutions that don't actually work. All through government spending funded by national debt (ends up coming out of taxpayers pockets i might add). What about the billions that fund the WEF from the US every year? What makes you think the US is any different to China on the wasting of surplus cash & resources front? The question you should ask yourself is why don't you know any of this? And if you did, why does it not bother you? Because the Western corporate media told you it's all fine?

[@Golfing422]

They might be with our woke military.

[@giantd]

Remember the chinese sheetrock mess? They used the spoils from the mines that were still hot with Uranium for filler. Entire homes had to be stripped. All metal, wire, A/C, plumbing corroded. We can't even use it for roads here it is so hot.

[@alinionutz8]

And here we go saving the planet by using paper straws. Our lifes are a lie.

[@sonofnam4418]

If a country uses gutter-oil for cooking, that country's argument goes out the window.

[@bid84]

Grim 🤢

[@katieevans6017]

Whereas a Country that eats at McDonalds, led by a man who cannot walk up a flight of stairs, is the World Leader!

[@bid84]

@@katieevans6017 Ageism is not very attractive, also Xi Xinping is a dictator, at least in democratic counties we can vote them out.

[@mikediamond353]

OR, the worlds leading democracy has been falsifying their own elections, For Decades!

[@sonofnam4418]

@@katieevans6017 At least my leader doesn't censor your right to free speech 🤣

[@firestick4991]

The sad part is people are paying for them, and they can’t even live in them!

[@AttestedArk1202]

Even if they could live in them, what then, the city doesn’t exist really, no businesses, no work, no entertainment, no restaurants, no bars, etc, but plenty of construction work!

[@DzR1591]

​@@AttestedArk1202still doesnt matter. Housing is more important than that.. This is insane

[@happynomadic1581]

Gotta keep a billion people working and believing that they are building a better future for their families

[@tankg9263]

“Well we don’t really have free enterprise, and everyone gets a construction job cause it’s easy money, so we have to keep building and tearing down these cardboard cities to keep them employed or we’d have an even MORE massive homeless problem.”

[@BungieStudios]

I wanted to live in them for the longest time until I learned how dangerous and poorly constructed they were.

[@jmchng9662]

They are poorly constructed? Really? Tell me honestly have you ever been to China to see for yourself? I bet you never & just basing on heresays including lies from idiots like the Laowhy86, SepentZa, China Uncensored, etc

[@vodkawhisperer3923]

why arent i detecting any sarcasm

[@lunam7249]

called "tofu dreg"....cardboard skyscrapers!!😳😳😳😳😳

[@jmchng9662]

Oh yeah....tell me how many tall skyscrapers are there in China? Then show me how many of them have collapsed so far? Bet you can't tell. Fyi China has the largest number of skyscrapers in the world, surpassing that of the top eleven largest, the United States (870+), United Arab Emirates (310+), South Korea (270+), Japan (270+), Malaysia (260+), Australia (140+), Indonesia (130+), Canada (130+), Philippines (120+) and Thailand (120+) combined. As of 2023, China has more than 3,000 buildings above 150 m (490 ft), of which 106 are supertall (300 m (980 ft) and above). Now count the number that have collapsed & divided it by ratio....if you can, instead of simply uttering your rubbish.

[@jmchng9662]

Meanwhile bear in mind this.... The aging infrastructure in the US had received a woeful C- grade from the American Society of Civil Engineers. The organization’s latest report states that an underground water pipe bursts every two minutes; 43% of US public roads are in poor condition, and 7% of bridges still being used by millions of commuters daily are “structurally deficient“. Moral of the story -- Look yourself in the mirror.

[@hellious7670]

Thank you. There was a time China had a stranglehold on youtube, and you couldn't say even a neutral word about them. Thanks for the honesty and the bluntness. This world has gone too far into fantasy.

[@Vallacy]

Its extremely sad to see this as in Canada we are currently don't have enough houses and we have more and more people coming faster and faster and the housing is so far behind in major cities as they were build low and wide not high and dense.

[@ShoshanaBrand]

They started building like crazy away before 2008; I was there in 2003 and the construction work took place 24 hrs a day. Of course the Government did not care that you couldn't sleep at night with all this noise and dirt... Back then they ruined all the beautiful Chinese antique houses and moved the people to small apartments. Again- they never asked them if they wanted to move, they simply forced them to do that. All the apartment buildings were built poorly and cracks showed up everywhere a few months after they were completed.

[@justsomeguyinnc473]

The concrete usage and co2 emissions are beyond appalling.

[@daskritterhaus5491]

fear not !!! fear not !!! the communist dictatorshit admiring (google it) elected leader of Canaduh justin TURDeau is on it, BANNING PLASTIC GROCERY BAGS AND BREAD TIES. harumph, harumph harumph dat will show dem.

[@venom74799]

Concrete??? You mean flour bricks and glue.

[@tomdemay6147]

co2 is good for trees bud.

[@Angusoksen]

@@tomdemay6147 Yes but too much Co2 is toxic/anesthetic Mr. Einstein

[@a64738]

The climate hysteria and Co2 hysteria is a scam just like the coward19 influenza scam... Co2 is food for plants and we need Co2 or else plant growth will suffer, same with higher temperatures. More Co2 and higher temperatures is actually beneficial to life on earth. Also the claims that ocean will rice 80 meters thanks to Antarctic ice melting if temperature goes up 3c is idiotic... The temperature in arctic is -50 to -17c, 3 degrees rise in temperature will do nothing to the Antarctic ice.

[@ShevillMathers]

The buildings are basically unliveable, they are only a steel and concrete shell, no plumbing, no electrical wiring, so no power heating or lighting, now sewerage etc. These essential utilities are up to the buyer to get installed, along with outfitting/decorating etc. this actually reduces the value of the apartment/unit because the next buyer will not live with someone else’s outfitting, they have to pay to get it all removed. Weird does not even begin to describe their logic and crap construction. I have talked with a family who did buy one and they make do with torches, buckets and climbing endless concrete stairs to their section, no lifts in these buildings. Outwardly it is all for show, look what we have done. The build quality is so bad, they are falling apart after 3 years. What really appals me is the sheer waste of primary building materials that have been imported from other countries, resources that once used up, that’s it. Iron ore for steel, high quality coal for steel making, the pollution and waste borders on insanity.😢

[@dwaynejones1555]

Mathers that's crazy! What floor do they live on?

[@mrexcelsior1414]

I would be afraid to live in one of those crumbling homes

[@Moscowmule23]

Even Chinese population number of 1.4 billion is wrong. China has over counted by as much as couple hundred million. Their population is decreasing fast as well. Some say in next 50 years they will shrink by half.

[@Flowing_thoughts]

My god, the ecological impact of this is mind blowing...

[@E4439Qv5]

The ecosystems over there are already beyond saving, trust.

[@Jet-ij9zc]

​@E4439Qv5 what ecosystem?

[@E4439Qv5]

@@Jet-ij9zc hardly any birds. Heavy pollution. Unsafe water, many times unfit for irrigation, let alone human or animal consumption. Extinct river dolphins. Overfishing off the coast. "What ecosystems" indeed.

[@Jet-ij9zc]

@E4439Qv5 I know, by "what ecosystem" I meant that the ecosystem no longer exist

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Communism always wrecks the environment.

[@ercushkakulmetov7458]

They build housing in hopes people will buy it for outrageous prices, when that doesn't happen the building are left to rot and demolished. In the end its profit over everything, housing is commodity this is why homelessness is an issue everywhere.

[@tribalismblindsthembutnoty124]

no its to look like they have economic growth. So foreigners buy in to their real estate companies and to attract investment in the country in general. Paper tiger.

[@glennvastine4118]

The biggest mall in China is especially funny. Hundreds and hundreds of spaces with virtually no customers or vendors. What a fantastic haunted house it would make.

[@Snowymae]

I’ve read multiple articles about how the Earth shifted on it’s axis and they believe it’s because of the weight of the buildings in China.

[@dachicagoan8185]

So nice of them. Every country can send their respective homeless populations

[@phu5005]

Send them all the illegals

[@JohnJBrowne11209]

Brilliant!

[@joelscb]

Because the unhoused are subhuman and should be sent away like prisoners right?

[@setiyoung1611]

@@joelscb You missed it mate, sailed over your head.

[@blacksage81]

​@setiyoung1611 if anything it's speaks volumes about their character.

[@Domzdream]

Looks like they cut corners in adding standard material to cut costs. I know this, because you can see that their concrete and metal etc just crumbles. Quick story - my dad and I we developed a massive house and a large pool. After it was ready to be laced with cement (which you then paint the walls on) my dad decided he will skimp on the cement which you add to the sand to make the concrete. It bonds the sand together, making a grey looking paste, which you then layer onto the brick work below. Guess what - after it all dried, you could run the walls and make a hole with you finger, because there was so little cement in the concrete. Regarding the pool, the cement started coming off as well, leaking the water over and over. We had to redo everything. We had to tear it all off, re-plaster everything, and it was a great lesson for my dad. He basically payed double for everything. Lesson: do it once properly, and you’ll save so much money in getting it all inevitably fixed again. This is China’s problem. They skimp on materials and now look at the massive problems they have.

[@r0b0coffee]

These people claiming it's hypocritical for the West to criticise China's CO2 emissions are completely ignoring the fact that China is incredibly wasteful and inefficient, building empty houses, and dumping waste everywhere. You might criticise 'clean coal', but at least there are air quality regulations, carbon capture, etc. Whereas China will dump millions of EVs and e-bikes, just so they can claim to be a leader in green tech. They are a plague on this world, and our governments are too blinded by greed and platitudes to do anything about it.

[@zephyr8072]

I love how the CCP is presented as the will of the Chinese people and an inherent part of an immutable culture when Taiwan is right there making a complete mockery of such assertions.

[@Tampenismall]

I once had a colleague who’s from china He is willing to have his salary cut to half then to return back to china I was like why? He replied “is still better salary then what I do in china”

[@williamcrossan9333]

Indeed, and these Chinese are coming to Australia, and Australian's wonder why they cant get wage rises anymore.

[@Enonymouse_]

The amount of material waste in China in all sectors is obscene.

[@barryraymond9004]

This is the difference between a billion people making billions of decisions on what they want for their lives or a small cardre of assholes that decide everything.

[@superapex2128]

But Winnie the Pooh is so lovable!

[@barryraymond9004]

@@superapex2128 My favorite example of top down CCP dumbassery is when the police pulled a farmer off a tractor while he was planting his fields during the covid lockdown. You can't get more stupid than that. That's what happens in a system with no feedback and no recourse.

[@internetpointsbank]

No difference other then the illusion of choice.

[@barryraymond9004]

@@internetpointsbank There is no illusion of choice, there are degrees of choice. You don't appreciate the degree of choice in your life until it is taken away. No one has absolute choice.

[@calitaliarepublic6753]

It’s no different in America. A few people at the top of the finance industry chose to hide junk bonds and it collapsed the US housing market. The Chinese might have overbuilt housing, but their overall investment in infrastructure for the past two decades helped bring the global economy out of a recession caused by America.

[@laaaliiiluuu]

World: "We need to save resources to protect the planet!" Meanwhile in China:

[@gazzman6547]

Greta Thurnberg in Western Media: How dare you steal my childhood 😢.

[@mukeshjobanputra6721]

UK should send all these refugees there instead of Rwanda 😂😂😂😂😂😅

[@bkfriend]

Like Robert A Heinlein said in Door to Summer "You can't expect the bes work for something that is built to be destroyed" said by the supervisor to Dan Davis.

[@stonecoldsteveaustin9353]

As a fan of liminal spaces, I'd honestly love to visit and explore some of these ghost cities. But I'm too terrified and repulsed by China to ever travel there, and I wouldn't trust any Chinese building as much as I could lift it.

[@MenAreNotOk]

They would collapse under your feet if you explored them

[@MARlOKART]

its crazy how propagandized everyone is in these comments hahaha. ive been living in China for 3 years and been treated better here than any other country ive been too. it's not all doom and gloom here and not a giant prison state.

[@Andromeda365]

​@MARlOKART it's an echo chamber for the chinese haters. It let them feel good to hear bad things about china. Pathetic if you ask me.

[@brettrobinson2901]

Squat and lift with your knees..might be able to lift a Chinese load bearing wall ....😜

[@tipoima]

Given what they are made out of, you could probably lift a wall or two.

[@YouCanHasAccount]

The thing that makes this situation scary is that there is no historical precedent. Best case the Chinese people just absorb their losses, millions of people lose their life savings and life goes on. Experts are still debating what the worst case outcome is ...

[@davdin2]

The government will just use the people, they don't care.

[@USA_UNITED1776]

Worst case is kinda obvious. Worst is always easy to figure out. How much power do they have, how much can they fuck up? Worst case everyone on earth dies from their nukes. Unlikely but it is the worst option that you wanted to know

[@James_3000]

reminds me of the one chinese guy who declared himseld brother of jesus christ, which was followed by so and so many millions of chinese dead

[@marcusott2973]

In the late 16th and early 17th century the Chinese built up 2 large export focused industries, porcelain and silk. When the methods of making both became more widespread, India, Europe. The market and the production collapsed, it led to poverty, famines, social unrest and the end of the ruling dynasty.

[@kenmasters2025]

Hopefully freedom for hk, tibet, Mongolia, xinjiang etc

[@Emppu_T.]

Good and well-rounded video about many of the major issues! Excellent job, quality and editing.

[@ValerieJean-fo6lc]

You just know those buildings weren't constructed well. They scare me

[@milestailprower]

With how things have been trending in terms of housing affordability in the US, it would have been nice if more affordable high density homes were build for millennials and gen Z. Obviously, to better standards than the ghost cities. Still, it's a bunch of wasted labor and material that could have gone elsewhere...

[@ninjacats1647]

Ah, 1 billion houses. Finally we can solve both the migrant crisis, the homeless crisis, and the housing crisis in one fell swoop. Send them all to China, they have plenty of housing.

[@thegoldensnitch6312]

Yeah but seriously immigration would be a good thing for China if the CCP would chill out a bit

[@JonSmith-hk1bq]

Be nice if millennials and gen Z didn't have to settle for dreaming of crappy high density housing in the first place.

[@laattardo]

As far as China officials are concerned, these ghost cities will continue. They are propping their economy with them, and as long as they can, they will continue to do so.

[@sidious900]

As a millennial, id rather pay a mortgage than rent.

[@MBasu-km8by]

Solving homelessness without solving homelessness be like:

[@BogdanPetre]

great channel , subscribed ! keep on spreading the truth !

[@chopsticksandtrains]

And they are still building - believe it or not! Totally nuts. Even in the small city I'm in, new communities are popping up everywhere. Not as fast as before, but still popping up on a regular basis. The number of empty units is just staggering!

[@CommanderBunbun-fx5xu]

Could it be a way to keep the prices of housing low?

[@schloops8473]

great nick :D

[@AJayZy]

@@CommanderBunbun-fx5xuBrother I do not mean to be rude but how can you think that? We need to get your economics 101 brushed up man

[@carcotasu081]

@@AJayZy In a functional, normal economy, what he said isn't wrong. Overproduction of housing units would end up lowering the price per unit as they remain unsold.

[@AJayZy]

@@carcotasu081 Well this is anything BUT, isn’t it?

[@David-iy1zt]

Imagine if they actually put that much time and effort into trying to invent something new Or ensuring compliance on needed projects Or cleaning waterways etc etc

[@Plethorality]

Or designing liveable habitation.

[@teebosaurusyou]

Or learning to not pollute waterways and groundwater in the first place.

[@tylerdurden6920]

So what you're saying is you don't understand China and green technology? You do understand China is leading in almost all new techs now, right? Which is why the US is now sanctioning them.

[@burp2019]

@@tylerdurden6920 hello zhang

[@CrimsonKnight_Gaming]

@@tylerdurden6920 Leading in all news techs (proceeds to make thousands of electric cars, bikes and scooters for the statistics just to later pile them outside as rubbish)

[@annanimity2034]

After rent most disabled people in the US are living off $300 or less and that's not including food so... 150$ sounds about right.

[@RameshPatel-ph3ie]

Building electric cars for the world to reduce carbon and then erecting monstrous buildings for no one to live and where are dogooders of the world silent on waste of resources and energy used to build empty structures😢😢😢

[@troniumbuster8007]

Crazy that they can build so many housing and structures like these with no one paying for them, and yet people that do pay mortgages and loans can never have these construction companies finish their already paid-for homes.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

The real-estate companies took out loans to build the empty tower-blocks. Very cheap when interest rates were below 2%. While people were buying, they could make a 40%+ return in three years with very little effort. Then suddenly people stopped buying…

[@forsociopoliticalstuff2629]

Isn’t this kind of like just digging a hole deeper for themselves? Wasn’t the sheer excess of unoccupied buildings already causing issues?

[@elchurcho2704]

If they stop digging half of the population dies

[@aidanryan8538]

There is no way there are 1 billion empty homes. Best estimate I have heard is 625 million homes in total, occupied and unoccupied. That would be enough for the population, if not all in the right place. Still overbuilt, but the headline is unrealistic.

[@AYoutubechannel1448]

???? How safe is this building. And if safe ..start renting out. They should fix that quickly First Country to have no Homeless and help with mental illnesses too. Be safe everyone.

[@jilbertb]

The fact that these ppl are paying for their apartments before they're even built, then wait five years for it to be completed, only to have the bldg torn down and never get a refund from the bank or from the government is disgusting. Yet the government gives these huge companied loans to make more buildings, is bloody outrageous. 😂 companies

[@joeltrefethren8134]

Chinese people have suffered for generations of communism where farmers properties have been systematically erased for mineral harvesting. China used to have a huge homeless population but in 2020 thirty one cell phone users went dark in one month alone. China and its ghost cities are key to understanding evils of communism. This all represents crimes against humanity , and nothing in the least spectacular.

[@Micha-qv5uf]

But it is also ridiculously stupid to do that. I mean the entire system wouldn't work if people had any idea about how to handle money.

[@joeltrefethren8134]

@@Micha-qv5uf That explains common core , how much did the Obama's pocket for screwing American children out of a education ? Do you know ? That was to the tune of 350 million.

[@AJayZy]

@@Micha-qv5ufCome on man if you were the average Chinese you would probably have your money tied up in some fake high rise too be honest

[@novat9731]

The construction company and the bank pay up to the same ccp officials.

[@RadiantMantra]

At the end of the day, words like "Houses" or "Apartments" give these empty concrete, unreachable boxes too much credit. They're functionally useless, they're not giving them away to the homeless, they're not even long-lasting structurally.

[@dixonhill1108]

Yeah it's increadily misleading, they're basically a billion concrete blocks.

[@retr0prime_812]

And it’s not even concrete. It’s basically wet gray sand

[@angeldark8812]

WHY??? It's insane to me unless construction owners are being compensated for this colossal waste 😡💣💩

[@DutchJoan]

What a waste of resources.

[@brambledemon1232]

It’s suicidal to live in any of these buildings.

[@bobk3840]

The real irony is that they didn’t finish the houses that their own people are paying for!

[@bill4263]

If I remember correctly, at the height of the banking crisis back in '08, the US had somethng like 7 million empty homes. That China may have as many as a billion is mind boggling.

[@kristinaF54]

1 billion empty houses....pssst, "houses" is a generous term for piles of crap.

[@Derek-tk4wf]

I miss those old videos of you guys riding around and showing various parts of China, circa 2016/2017. They had a cool vibe.

[@borninthewrongtime6449]

Their ADVChina channel is still active & they still post on it..There was one posted about a month ago. They have so much tape they have shot but never aired, when they get a free moment they post one.

[@pentesterpif]

Bro this is an amazing video. Keep up the good journalism. I had no idea it was this bad in china. It’s all a front holy cow. I just spent time in Japan and the country is on point. They fix everything that’s broken. No trash, no crime, no overexcessive building. They are doing it right. China cares about image and that’s it

[@JohnSmith-sm7ez]

China has no trash, hardly any crime , ridiculously clean cities, incredible metros, great job opportunities……

[@user-bl6zc4bp8i]

I love how the Japanese take care of business...Y

[@laurar.3502]

I'm a tree hugger and also a climate denier. They are not opposites or mutually exclusive. 🙏

[@poopingwhilestanding5801]

It's a strategy to keep their GDP inflated; regardless of the economic long-term effects. Much like we do with QE. Gotta defend that current valuation!

[@supremacy2040]

Yeah, it’s also a great Ponzi scheme as well.

[@ruskip]

Exactly

[@lainiwakura1776]

@@humbughumbughumbug The Keynesian model is only supposed to be short-term.

[@arthas640]

@@lainiwakura1776 not really. if properly used it's sustainable long term, especially if you adapt it to modern economics like the New Keynesian model. At it's basic level it's just a regulated form of a free market where you intervene when there's market failures and intervene at times when a disaster is impending. Ideally you synergize it with a social welfare system too. There's a reason why it forms the bedrock of most mainstream economic systems used today: it works.

[@Barskor1]

@@lainiwakura1776 The first hit is always free.......

[@dylanvienet7923]

I'm in Norway right now and I don't know how anyone here can simp for the Chinese government. It's as close to a perfect country as you can get and the people are so well looked after here

[@VideaVice25]

When the paycheck is big enough many would simp for the Devil in a heartbeat.

[@martindunstan8043]

​@@VideaVice25yep, either a fat paycheck or the threat of imminent death will do the trick

[@Vandreren83]

For sure. As a norwegian, seeing those posts by Erik made me embarrassed af. On the other hand, you also have to remember that there are weird people everywhere. And Erik is a member of a political party with like 3.9 % votes - barely enough to get into the parliament. They are there, but their "popularity" is on a downward trajectory, so next election in 2 years they might just be out even.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

Too much comfort kills peoples souls.

[@ibabechanel]

What about the migrant crisis there ?

[@BasicBobby]

Downside of central planning-surpluses, shortages, waste…tell me again about their trains That said Chinese people are based and great colleagues in the tech world.

[@annettebanks6022]

You would not want to live in them as they would probably fall apart.

[@patricius6378]

Imagine the possibilities of a democratic China that used its ressources responsibly...

[@presspound7358]

That would be impressive…however…I’m not sure how/if a democracy would work well with a population of 1.3 + billion people spread over such a varied set of regions. It would be colossal no matter how you attempt it. Not easily convinced at this point… but yeah …it could be liberating and productive.

[@patricius6378]

@@presspound7358 Of course you are not wrong, I just kind of had this day-dream of China really being this utopia, with all these ressources and hospitable people, like a belt and road but this time it helps the countries/regions, bringing peace and prosperity. But it could never happen. Even if it were possible, they wouldn't allow it.

[@williamnessanbaum7464]

Both you and Winston need to be invited to testify before a US House of Representatives Subcommittee hearing on China.

[@curtiskretzer8898]

Why?🇨🇳 still retain Most Favored Nation Trade Status, won't remove🇺🇲debt to🇨🇳 and🇨🇳will continue to be the🌎champ of polutters!

[@alex-ur3pu]

The fact you have/had people like Erik Solheim in the UN....

[@RafaelBenedicto]

How can people think of investing in property in a country where nobody but the government owns anything?

[@cfunkbooya]

The Chinese people deserve so much better, One day god willing they will see democracy.

[@FireOccator]

The waste just makes me feel extremely depressed.

[@davidellis279]

If they have that amount of unoccupied building’s perhaps we could do a deal with them to house all our illegal immigrants.

[@sparksmacoy]

It is like a machine in a cartoon that spins out of control and can't stop building stuff as the cartoon characters run around trying to turn it off.

[@okzoomer5728]

So much for being a global green 'leader'. If you see how many greenhouse gases concrete production and transit releases you'll understand why.

[@jaredc7326]

Going green means is make them money. Nothing to do with the environment.

[@arthas640]

The US does emit a lot of green house gases but I think its insane that people rank the US even near China. Concrete is one of the main producers of greenhouse gases and both power generation and agriculture rank above that. China produces/uses far more concrete than the US and produces it in less efficient methods, they're one of the worlds main consumers of coal and one of the only ones that burns "brown coal" which is way more toxic than anthracite which is what the US mainly used for coal (and I believe still does), and China is one of the main producers of meat in the world which is one of the main producers of greenhouse gas globally. They also raise _tons_ of lamb which is even worse for the environment than pork or beef, especially since they have large herds that are destroying grasslands which is turning some of those grasslands into deserts.

[@forsociopoliticalstuff2629]

Even if they actually were, the amount of sheer pollution generated otherwise would completely blow any environmental positives done by quite a long way.

[@USA_UNITED1776]

Not to mention their emissions surpass the entire western hemisphere

[@heyjude9537]

This is why I will never take climate protesters seriously. they never mention china.

[@asc.445]

I was working in Nang Tong 10 years ago, on the way back from the work site, at night, to the hotel we passed multiple huge city developments that were unlit, so unoccupied.I thought then this could not last and now we find it can not.

[@matthewotis3594]

Our food has over doubled in price over the last few years.

[@humanyoda]

Billion?! You probably don't understand how large that number is.

[@Winterascent]

Very ironic that in a Communist country where private property is not supposed to exist, people think real-estate property is a good investment.

[@glenncordova4027]

That is because Chinese banks and stockmarkets are a nightmare. Why invest in a bank that can go bankrupt at any second. Why invest in a company that can be closed at the whim of a party official.

[@pegcity4eva]

Yeah just buy Canada instead

[@mnmlst1]

China is not communist. They only use "Communism" as a name to sell an image they are not. If there are people starving and living in the streets while a few owns most of the money, it is not communism. "Communism is an economic ideology that advocates for a classless society in which all property and wealth are communally owned, instead of being owned by individuals."

[@stephenphilbin3919]

The _"Chinese Communist Party"_ is a Fascist dictatorship. It's the fundamental rule of the universe: Socialist regimes will eventually either collapse, or turn to Fascism in order to stave off the collapse.

[@Rowlph8888]

@@glenncordova4027 What You Are Saying Is Cash > Suitcase >under bed

[@jeremyrichard2722]

Well, this is interesting, and things like this seem to be increasingly common in China, and it does remind me of a story I heard, and it's not popular right now anywhere, but I'm surprised it doesn't come up more. It's not really a "conspiracy theory" more of a sort of an international urban legend, that has been implied to have some truth to it over the years when it's come up. In China there are six major schools that make up what are considered to be traditional Chinese philosophy. One of these schools of philosophy is called "Legalism" and it was invented by a guy called Shang Yang (as much as that sounds like a name from a westernized Kung-fu movie) that is heavily about enforced social order at all costs. Ever since I was a kid, before China was as big a deal as it is now, I've been hearing that one of the dark secrets about Shang Yang was that he was supposed to have had divine visions, and felt he was called upon to scribe these visions in the naked flesh of beautiful young women who were then flayed and the flesh preserved in a gallery in The Forbidden City. The whole idea was where they got the idea of full body flaying to preserve body tattoos from fallen Yakuza in certain kinds of movies allegedly. Okay now that we're going into credibility straining horror movie stuff here, allegedly Shang Yang claims he was shown a nightmare future where in order to survive humans had to be conditioned to exist in a tight, and unquestioning order, where they would functionally live as ants. There would be two major tribes, one a builder tribe and the other a breaker tribe. Everyone would live nomadically, going from place to place, underground, in market caverns, and the builder tribes would be set to places where they would construct great cities for people who would come later from the ruins for former great cities, being told eventually theirs would be the greatest cty of all. Once they were done they were to move on, and the breaker tribe would come and be told to break the city down into resources. The idea would be to move the different groups around underground, rising for years at a time to complete their work, before travelling again, all never meeting any others, and every few generations re-visiting the same sites to do the same thing in an endless cycle. There would be a tiny cadre of leaders who would oversea this and would be rewarded with all they could want, including all pleasures of the flesh, and they would have a soldier class whose job it would be to keep an eye on the worker classes and kill anyone who was too smart or who questiond, as well as periodically cull the population to a livable level. In this way humanity could live on indefinitely in eternal, glorious, order with limited resources. Those who brought about this future would be rewarded as the leader class, for their great service to humanity be ensuring this eternal cycle and survival. This was allegedly the inspiration for the Chinese "Human Hive" faction in the old game "Alpha Centauri". At any rate part of this story is that Mao read these writings on the flayed bodies, and became quite inspired, and this is his entire reason for the communist revolution, and the actual goal of the modern CCP and why it has such a focus on things like unquestioning productivity and authoritarianism. The authorities doing this stuff secretly feel their descendants will be rewarded in the future for making this happen. I am not saying I believe this, don't get this wrong, I'm just carrying on the story for entertainment value. I sort of have trouble thinking back to the idea of some great Chinese philosopher, one of the most iconic of all time in fact, actually having basically been a hallucinating serial killer. That said whenever I hear stories like this, you know empty cities that are then destroyed and so on, as well as all the ranting about everyone needing to be productive as they are made to echo the party line exactly, I am reminded of this, and it almost seems plausible that the Chinese communists might actually be some insane human ant cult.

[@tribalismblindsthembutnoty124]

thats depraved. Reminds me of an underground 'brave new world' but only the leaders get to indulge in all the pleasures. They might have to go underground after they or we start lobbing the bombs.

[@kkpenney444]

This makes a lot of sense, tbh.

[@jeremyrichard2722]

@@shannon6876 Given the discussion I started I wish I edited better as I noticed more horrible writing than usual. Glad it was coherent. I just wanted to say that my overall attitude about humanity is a lot less grim. It's just that society moving forward was a series of baby steps as we were able to get more and more control of the world and deal with less forced competition based on resources. If humans were that bad, even those who rose to become leaders, we would never have gotten here or developed the current morality we have. Looking back on things and judging from an ivory tower or comparative enlightenment is never a fair thing to do. When I look at most atrocities, if you look at the underlying logic, they generally had a benevolent intent from the people doing them. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions". I mean consider when you defeat a rival people there are only so many ways you can end their threat and competition entirely, and people in the past had less options than we do today. Take for example all the effort taken to purge nazism, that is literally an attempt at ideological genocide that has involve us doing many horrible things under the pretext that they deserve it for thinking that way (and I generally agree). That same logic can be applied to any kind of threatening ideology or culture, and typically the people doing terrible things were doing them from that sort of perspective, adjusted for the time in which they lived. If you look back at famous Chinese atrocities such as the story of Zigu "lady of the latrine". You will notice that the motive for that particular act of horror was basically her being a concubine who upset an empress by functionally stealing her husband. The revenge involved being very personal. The story being that she basically wound up having her hands and feet removed, her limbs permanently bound, and then her eyes put out, tongue stapled to the bottom of her mouth so she could taste but not talk, and then her hearing removed with acid poured into her ears. Then then was permanently secured into the personal toilet of the empress and her elite with a tube running into her mouth where she was the target when she was used for the bathroom, and they could use her mouth directly for this if they so chose via the tube. This was also how she was fed gruel and water to keep her alive. Allegedly her fate was discovered after one of the revolutions and it became a legend, and now "Zigu" is a household god based on the idea her spirit haunts all toilets. I don't know all the details, but this is the version I heard and it's presumably real as I'm pretty sure it was even mentioned on TV, and she even has a grave as the body was recovered. The point here being is the horror was very personal. The thing with Shang Yang's story, and why I question part of the narrative, is that I couldn't see why he wouldn't just use paper or whatever like everyone else to record his vision. What's more the whole premise relies on The Chinese court of the time basically going "wow, Shang Yang, that is an amazing divine revelation, and this is a great and profound way of preserving it" and then pretty much enshrining it complete with a hidden room in pretty much the most revered place in all of China. I man understand when it comes to Zigu nobody was exactly supposed to be going "yeah, that's okay" since it was kind of a secret and people freaked out when it was found. This would pretty much be implying the other Chinese minds of the time were on board with this, and future generations of Chinese all looked at the flayed insane prophies and said "my god, that's genius!" even before the CCP happened and apparently tried to make it a reality by this narrative. So basically it is a famous creepy story, and as I said has inspired things like that faction in a former video game. It is especially creepy when you see it sort of line up with stuff like in this video. That said while I mention it for fun, I'm the first to admit it would be sort of preposterous to have played out like the version of the story I heard. That said it could be something that does have a grain of truth, and a lot of the details are simply wrong and were embellished over time into that version to make an already insane idea even scarier. At least with Zigu (which should be more easily verifiable) you can understand that the motivation was basically revenge and jealousy, and it was creating existential suffering for someone an empress hated to an extreme. It's doubtful the empress was exactly walking around doing stuff like that casually, which is why it was a surprise when they found out what was in her personal latrine.

[@gazzman6547]

Communism is Judaism. Judaism is cult.

[@zephyr8072]

“This was allegedly the inspiration for the Chinese "Human Hive" faction in the old game "Alpha Centauri". “ Shang Yang // Sheng-ji Yang. Checks out.

[@badcp455]

Oh, those were for me. These homes were included in the employment offers they sent me.