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Chris Maj

Chris Maj

Күн бұрын

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@jiinueleo2211
@jiinueleo2211 9 ай бұрын
Just setting up the piece on the machine must be a whole masterclass on its own. That dial indicator was dead on 0.!
@alonsonavarro2126
@alonsonavarro2126 3 ай бұрын
0.00019999
@johnlawler1626
@johnlawler1626 9 ай бұрын
That is a lovely bit of turning 👍👌great video thanks for sharing 👍
@jaca2995
@jaca2995 9 ай бұрын
I znów elegancka robota ;) fajnie było by się od Pana uczyć, zdrówka
@MrLembnau
@MrLembnau 9 ай бұрын
From one machinist to another, you are very good at what you do.
@oifmarinesgt
@oifmarinesgt 26 күн бұрын
To be accurate, it's called a sheave. A sheave is part of a pulley and sheaves are used on cranes where the cables ride. I know this because I am a crane operator.
@DodgeDhanda
@DodgeDhanda 4 ай бұрын
Hi Chris. Just discovered your channel & I enjoy how the machinery these days can do so much. I know you need to possibly keep the vlogs to a certain length of time & I was wondering if you could show the whole process from start to finish but speeded up & that way the whole process of what you do can be appreciated just like you did when flipping the pulley over.. Still enjoying what I'm able to see of the process
@jackfitzgerald6927
@jackfitzgerald6927 9 ай бұрын
Chris, you always post wonderful videos and do such a fantastic job. I love seeing your videos and can not wait for the next one.
@PorkChopAChunky
@PorkChopAChunky 3 ай бұрын
I come from a family of machinists (swiss screw mostly) and always loved doing it myself. I just can't stand being inside all day under neon lights. Its soul crushing.😂
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 3 ай бұрын
@@PorkChopAChunky and that's why I started road/ mountain biking years ago. Get my shit together after a week of being in the shop.
@PorkChopAChunky
@PorkChopAChunky 3 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMaj I couldn't take it after a few years and went to work outside with wood. Now I long for a shop with neon lights when it's cold outside 😂
@JanB1605
@JanB1605 3 ай бұрын
What is "Swiss screw"? I'm Swiss and never heard of that. XD
@PorkChopAChunky
@PorkChopAChunky 3 ай бұрын
@JanB1605 Swiss screw machines. Similar to a lathe I guess. Google it for a better explanation
@clayman1000x
@clayman1000x Ай бұрын
@@JanB1605 www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Swiss+screw
@zoltannagy1813
@zoltannagy1813 9 ай бұрын
Very nice work Chris. That machine makes a change from the usual centre lathe. How long did it take overall to machine?
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
Can't disclose total times.
@Vonzeq
@Vonzeq 9 ай бұрын
Hey Chris, super Bauteil was du da gefertigt hast! 👍 Programmierst du selber an der Maschine? So ein Facharbeiter wie du einer bist, ist echt Goldwert! Mach weiter so mit deiner tollen Arbeit
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 9 ай бұрын
Did the tapped holes have to be clocked to one another on each side? Really cool part. Looks like fun. Oh and how did you pump out the swimming pool? Cheers, Tom
@mftmachining
@mftmachining 9 ай бұрын
Tom, i was thinking the same....👀
@MrKotBonifacy
@MrKotBonifacy 9 ай бұрын
@@mftmachining me too... Chris? Are yer there? People here are dying to know...! ;-)
@RossiDeakin0406
@RossiDeakin0406 9 ай бұрын
Obviously he's not had his meatloaf 😂, was wondering the same Tom
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
It's just two covers, one on each side, so they don't have to be perfect, but I did mark the jaws before flipping it over and then just aligned the marks. The swimming pool? 200 rpm for 10 seconds 😅
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 9 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMaj Nice!
@elijahgreenberg2634
@elijahgreenberg2634 9 ай бұрын
Very cool! I think you should do a tour of your shop, if possible! Very cool machines, would love to see more of them!
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaicf3ejZsyfkLcsi=DPySeeLRymzXm63n
@Hannan_1325
@Hannan_1325 5 ай бұрын
Liked the video. I believe a pre-forged pully would have saved a lot of machining time. But then again, if it's a special purpose unit manufacturing then I guess this is the only way to get it done. Cool process and cool video.
@lowemanbaits959
@lowemanbaits959 9 ай бұрын
Very cool! Largest diameter on a VTL I've seen in a long time. Thx!
@ronaldfairhurst2914
@ronaldfairhurst2914 9 ай бұрын
Chris the four 26MM holes you put in for the final operation, i didn't see in the print did you get permission for that or where they on the print, i also saw some large herring bone gears do you make them, i'm going through a gear box now that needs four made for it.
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, that 26mm holes were just for the final machining.
@Kurokimachine
@Kurokimachine 9 ай бұрын
Great work as always. I have always used round inserts myself for deep grooving, but have recently been using dnmg more and more for exactly the reason you gave
@Xris-FJ1200
@Xris-FJ1200 9 ай бұрын
Many thanks for this new great video ! I'm pleased to lurn all your technics with you and your vertical lathe. I have a question about the inserts. You always use "gold" inserts. Personnaly I have bought "nano blue" inserts" wich are very strong. Do you use them sometimes ? I have an old lathe (from years 1940, my neighbour gave it to me, it was from his grandad), but it is a very good lathe that is very precise, the clearance is abou 1/100 mm). Many thanks christophe
@morefilm5859
@morefilm5859 9 ай бұрын
Well Done. I just wonder how you get the M16 positions spot on both sides as seen in the drawing.
@jhonyc.soares4340
@jhonyc.soares4340 9 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the excellent work. 👏🏻 I would like to know how long it took in hours to carry out this machining?!
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
Can't really talk about this job much.
@jhonyc.soares4340
@jhonyc.soares4340 9 ай бұрын
Okay, I understand. I asked the question because I'm working on a bullard vertical lathe, and I'm having difficulty predicting how long it will take to complete the tasks.
@СаабразимАлкашиБухани
@СаабразимАлкашиБухани 4 ай бұрын
​@@jhonyc.soares4340легко вычислить заранее, зная вес снимаемой стружки ( как разницу в весе детали и заготовки) и мощность двигателя
@MisterDuck999
@MisterDuck999 6 ай бұрын
Nice work Chris, thanks for sharing this video. Can you tell us the make and model of the machine? Is this a Fanuc based control? How do you program it?
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 6 ай бұрын
@@MisterDuck999 Yama Seiki GV-1600M, Fanuc control, programming, mix of G-codes and manual guide.
@MisterDuck999
@MisterDuck999 6 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMaj Thanks Chris.
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 9 ай бұрын
One of those days where you pray to your deity of choice that the chip conveyor doesn't fail.
@MrKotBonifacy
@MrKotBonifacy 9 ай бұрын
...and this is what happen when you piss off your deity of choice by not offering him (or her) a proper bloody sacrifice before you commence yer work... ;-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aV7NhWZ-p7h7oKc
@SilentPartner79
@SilentPartner79 9 ай бұрын
Or a tap doesn't break off...
@HarryShagnasty-sc9zd
@HarryShagnasty-sc9zd 8 ай бұрын
If you’ve been previously brainwashed that is.
@Andrewlang90
@Andrewlang90 8 ай бұрын
@@SilentPartner79How dare you even speak of that type of evil?
@brandonb6164
@brandonb6164 7 ай бұрын
@@HarryShagnasty-sc9zd You are so smart and edgy. Christ is King
@Ais4Drew
@Ais4Drew 2 ай бұрын
0:09 that chain up job is so symetrical and satisfying 🤤🤤🤤
@rickfearn3663
@rickfearn3663 9 ай бұрын
Super inspiring. Thanks for showing the drawing. Would be interesting to know the end use.
@adammckay296
@adammckay296 9 ай бұрын
I reckon it's a big pulley for rope
@renatocesar8399
@renatocesar8399 9 ай бұрын
Polia para cabo de aço. Muito usada em Porto marítimo .
@Problem-attic
@Problem-attic 3 ай бұрын
Interesting to think about making the same part at a different scale, seeing the intro and drawing I thought there would be problems with chips getting stuck in the middle... I was amused to see the chips just fling out due to the revs! Similarly fun to see the coolant fill the dish and react to the movement, cool to see the fluid behavior, momentum and whatnot. How did you drain the pool before 15:20? a big straw?
@truegret7778
@truegret7778 9 ай бұрын
Closer to art than hardware! Beautiful work. I'm curious whether you ever get invited by your customers to see you work in action?
@angeloangelucci717
@angeloangelucci717 9 ай бұрын
Awesome as usual. Thanks again for the effort and work to post for us regular guys....
@davidryle
@davidryle 2 ай бұрын
Good choice of when to utilize coolant. Sometimes the chip takes the heat away, other times not. Who provided the forging? Did you have to scale it before turning?
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 9 ай бұрын
I love seeing footage of this thing slowing down from high speed. So much momentum.
@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391
@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 8 ай бұрын
When you've got four massive brackets (to hold the workpiece) going around, it's very scary.
@stevemcgarrett303
@stevemcgarrett303 9 ай бұрын
Wow. That's a fancy pulley. Nice job!
@mrctools8352metalurgia
@mrctools8352metalurgia 23 күн бұрын
Quantas horas de usinagem pra executar essa peça.👍🏻
@TheJohndeere466
@TheJohndeere466 2 ай бұрын
I make smaller ones on a cnc lathe and just chuck on about 3/8" and do all the machining including the groove on the 1st side. I use a 1/4" wide kennemetal grooving tool and I program it to plunge on one side feed across and plunge again and feed back the other way alternating directions on each pass. It never stops cutting on the groove until I run the finish pass. These little grooving inserts break chips pretty well.
@bhekidlamini51
@bhekidlamini51 9 ай бұрын
Good job ! How long did this Pulley take to machine?
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
Sorry, can't disclose total times.
@bhekidlamini51
@bhekidlamini51 9 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMaj no problem, I appreciate you answering.
@IstvánVarga-f2j
@IstvánVarga-f2j 2 ай бұрын
Gyönyörű alkatrészek , de sokszor láttam már , hogy nagyon sok idő megy rá , drága alkatrészbe telibe fúrja a menetet , olyan kor szinte félve nézem a fúrást , mi van ha bele törik ??
@TOTOTRAZOM
@TOTOTRAZOM 9 ай бұрын
travail parfait comme d'habitude, merci Chris et bravo👋👋👍👍
@gertkristensen6451
@gertkristensen6451 8 ай бұрын
good work ,, nice turning keep it up
@SFish-wr4kh
@SFish-wr4kh 9 ай бұрын
12:50 i love how you turned off the coolant because there's enough held in the part to keep the tool cool.
@pierregrosjean3241
@pierregrosjean3241 9 ай бұрын
Bonjour, une question peut-être un peu bête : pourquoi ne pas faire une ébauche de la poulie venue de fonderie ou forgée ? Il y aurait moins de copeaux et de temps d'usinage, non ?
@mikeydk
@mikeydk 9 ай бұрын
I like the round inserts for grooves like that. But they are indeed a bit picky about cutting data to get the chips to break properly.
@CajunCrustacean
@CajunCrustacean 3 ай бұрын
I think radius inserts are more of a necessity in manual machining. At least, for me they are. I don't even want to imagine trying to get a clean three-plus-inch radius with a pointed insert.
@krgindustrials7863
@krgindustrials7863 9 ай бұрын
One the best I have ever seen .hatts off.. Keep rocking ❤
@hahagagagaga4710
@hahagagagaga4710 4 ай бұрын
What a beautiful work and piece…. How long did it take to set up am dying to know 😅
@Tom-jx9te
@Tom-jx9te Ай бұрын
VTLs are so much fun when it’s not the computer doing it for you. Retired manual machinist here.😊
@gwharton68
@gwharton68 9 ай бұрын
Always nice to see a real craftsman at work.
@MECCANICISTA082
@MECCANICISTA082 9 ай бұрын
Questo non è un artigiano è solo un programmatore. Qui fa tutto la macchina lui scrive solo dei codici su uno stupido monitor. Gli artigiani sono quelli che lavorano al manuale, altra gente veri artisti
@aknighttrain
@aknighttrain 9 ай бұрын
@@MECCANICISTA082 just shut your ignorant mouth. You know nothing.
@DarthGandalftheBlack
@DarthGandalftheBlack 7 ай бұрын
That’s cute. lol. You should see the stuff we have in inventory at work. We deal in marine industrial supply. Anchors, buoys, and trolling blocks as big as they come. Some of it is unreal to see to be honest. I love this industry.
@slenderino
@slenderino 20 күн бұрын
Are you happy with your vtl , think its gidding and lewis?.
@mftmachining
@mftmachining 9 ай бұрын
Excellent job, Chris.
@emilahlstrand2672
@emilahlstrand2672 Ай бұрын
Question, why did you arrange the lifting straps like that after flipping it over? Lower chanse of them slipping while in the air?
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj Ай бұрын
Yes, if you put it on the outside, there's a chance it's gonna flip on you.
@emilahlstrand2672
@emilahlstrand2672 Ай бұрын
@ChrisMaj Thank you.
@TheFailo10
@TheFailo10 9 ай бұрын
Damn, every time you turn it it always run at the centre, great job 👏🏻
@toddg6548
@toddg6548 2 ай бұрын
Lets just take a moment to appreciate the Metric to English hand written conversation on the drawing... 😎
@Cjarka_
@Cjarka_ 9 ай бұрын
Is the coolant supposed to look like apple juice or are you actually using apple juice???
@prestoisakilla813
@prestoisakilla813 9 ай бұрын
glad those straps are strong af.... cause the way hes got it rigged that inner section of strap, hooked to the chain, is supporting all the weight of that steel.
@W8iHav2P
@W8iHav2P 8 ай бұрын
How else would it be?
@ZaDusza
@ZaDusza 9 ай бұрын
This coolant should look like that, or it's 10 years after it should be changed? I really want to throw up a little just from looking at it. Machining beautiful like always
@spektryt200
@spektryt200 4 ай бұрын
Thats TDZ Turn VTL 1800 or 1600? I worked at VLC 1200, TDZ makes really great machines.
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 4 ай бұрын
@@spektryt200 Yama Seiki GV-1600M
@therealbarnekkid
@therealbarnekkid 9 ай бұрын
Nice work. I see you indicate on the rim and show zero runout, but what about the face?
@lawriealush-jaggs1473
@lawriealush-jaggs1473 9 ай бұрын
...And that's what we former computer technicians call Bloody Impressive. Especially the dial-ins.
@BlownUpp
@BlownUpp 3 ай бұрын
How do you align the thru holes between setups #1 and #2? Very cool!
@fishdisc7022
@fishdisc7022 9 ай бұрын
@ 8:15 Did you face the top of the large red risers after mounting? Or are they hardened like 1,2,3 blocks?
@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391
@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 8 ай бұрын
15:25 I wonder hiw they got rid of all the coolent, perhaps put it on top speed and run away!
@arimadx
@arimadx 4 ай бұрын
Id love to know how long this took from beginning to end. That was soooo much metal removed!
@wileecoyote1362
@wileecoyote1362 9 ай бұрын
One got a true sense of the size of the job when you turned it over and you were standing next to it standing vertical. 😲
@MrReichennek
@MrReichennek 9 ай бұрын
The Kennametal A4 style tools with the full rad are pretty great for cutting this kind of groove, but maybe not at this scale, i make 12-16" sheaves. the chip control and feedrates are much better than button tools as well.
@Apocnow420
@Apocnow420 15 күн бұрын
How many hours roughly did it take to do that?
@ИльичпроснисьОниохренели
@ИльичпроснисьОниохренели 2 ай бұрын
А по времени сколько?) Круто!!!
@kienly7421
@kienly7421 2 ай бұрын
I have a question. What is 24/34 (6xM16x24/34 in the drawing) at 0:39 of the video
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 2 ай бұрын
Drill 34 deep, tap 24
@dawszelka5461
@dawszelka5461 9 ай бұрын
No i to jest wielki detal :D Chris jesteś mistrz :D ty napisz lepiej ile to obrabiałeś łacznie ;D
@Kamil_Klukowski
@Kamil_Klukowski 9 ай бұрын
Taki tam bloczek.
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
Nie mogę nic mówić o tej robocie. Skrzętny klient.
@carlsavage614
@carlsavage614 9 ай бұрын
I always look forward to the indicating. that thing just won't budge.
@captianeddie4554
@captianeddie4554 Ай бұрын
Indicator hell, That's BS professional could do it with a scale, Amateurs on display
@markanthonysmith413
@markanthonysmith413 9 ай бұрын
Another Great Video Chris.👍
@AChicken-sh1gc
@AChicken-sh1gc 7 ай бұрын
why not use a big insert mill to do the roughing ? would be as fast of faster as far as i know
@theessexhunter1305
@theessexhunter1305 9 ай бұрын
I was wondering how you were going to hold it for the V part. Very nice
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
Luckily, they let me drill extra holes for the V-groove machining
@captianeddie4554
@captianeddie4554 Ай бұрын
How many times are we gonna do finishing? Dig in boy time is money.
@joewboe
@joewboe Ай бұрын
What do you use to smack the work peice with to tram the part in? A rubber sledge?
@jimc12
@jimc12 Ай бұрын
I always like watching your content. Some of these machining channels have to much blabbering. They also have sold themselves to the corporate world as marketing hubs.
@RAT7163
@RAT7163 9 ай бұрын
Can this machine mill too? Or just turn and drill? Great video!
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4W1mZ2vo5d-jsksi=tQrYjPNUEF8QuojC
@RAT7163
@RAT7163 9 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMaj that is awesome!
@Appple1988
@Appple1988 9 ай бұрын
Piekny komponent :) Przepraszam, ale kolor chłodziwa w maszynie paskudny :P Chyba dawno nie zmieniany? Pozdrawiam
@jimfarmer7811
@jimfarmer7811 7 ай бұрын
Just curious. Why didn't they spec a weldment or casting? Seems like a lot of wasted machining.
@rmorganii
@rmorganii 9 ай бұрын
Just beautiful work! Thanks for sharing
@mikeygoertzy4524
@mikeygoertzy4524 9 ай бұрын
Young machinist guy here, how come you only did the top half of the side grooves to the middle of the groov? Then come down and do the rest at the bottom. Why not just one pass? talking about 24:26-24:51
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
Better surface finish
@mikeygoertzy4524
@mikeygoertzy4524 9 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMaj That is what I would have guessed, thanks for reply!
@wagsman9999
@wagsman9999 9 ай бұрын
I can't imagine what a CNC like that costs. Awesome video.
@СаабразимАлкашиБухани
@СаабразимАлкашиБухани 4 ай бұрын
А я не представляю, зачем здесь ЧПУ . Обычный лоботокарный или карусельный станок для одиночных деталей. Дешевле будет намного. Их ещё со wwII много сохранилось
@robertteap8052
@robertteap8052 9 ай бұрын
Including set-up, how long did it take to machine? What grade steel is it?
@kisspeteristvan
@kisspeteristvan 9 ай бұрын
Hello Chris , around 25rpm on the biggest dia ?
@slidebed
@slidebed 9 ай бұрын
Wonderful, you must be worth your weight in gold to the company you work for.
@grumpyg9350
@grumpyg9350 9 ай бұрын
2000 lbs of chips, reminds me of a party I went to back in the 70’s.
@AB-ot3bc
@AB-ot3bc 7 ай бұрын
No almost 5000 lbs of chips remember it said it started at 7000 and ended at 2000.
@grumpyg9350
@grumpyg9350 25 күн бұрын
@@AB-ot3bc👍👍
@funwitharobot
@funwitharobot 9 ай бұрын
How many hours did you have to put into this masterpiece?
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍 That's one big rope pulley 😅
@Hemeralopie
@Hemeralopie 8 ай бұрын
How do you find the hole position from the already drilled side? Where is the datum?
@BangOlafson
@BangOlafson 6 ай бұрын
it's amazing through how much effort the Americans go to use anything but the metric system :D The drawing was perfect... :D no need to convert anything into bananas if one would just hit the "Switch between Imperial and Metric" button on the machine :D
@tireballastserviceofflorid7771
@tireballastserviceofflorid7771 5 ай бұрын
And then some of us can read both. Funny how people love to criticize American ways yet beat down the door to buy American products. Say how limiting it is. And why would have have kept the system of our oppressors. We are American and proud of it.
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 4 ай бұрын
@@tireballastserviceofflorid7771Funny how hard it is to buy American products - they all seem to be made in Mexico now…
@tireballastserviceofflorid7771
@tireballastserviceofflorid7771 4 ай бұрын
@allangibson8494 Made in china is all I can find. Mexico ain't much better. Sad to see it. Sadder to live it.
@seth094978
@seth094978 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but then I need to think in surface meters per min and mm/rev and I don't have as good of a feel for those. It's harder to catch my mistakes.
@stoveguy2133
@stoveguy2133 9 ай бұрын
Had 10’ dia VTL at my first job. Closed loooong time ago
@Everything_Engineering
@Everything_Engineering 9 ай бұрын
Guys always wondered how do you manually touch of a neutral tool like the DNMG for the pully? Touching of diameter pretty simple. Do people just touch of the tool shank and go halfway?
@warrenjones744
@warrenjones744 9 ай бұрын
A thing of beauty Chris.
@zainalyahya8905
@zainalyahya8905 9 ай бұрын
How many day this job paid, crish?? Good tool program
@fokusano
@fokusano 9 ай бұрын
Brawo! :)👏
@표지방이
@표지방이 9 ай бұрын
Won’t it deform if you process the cross-section in the second process?
@marcellanz01
@marcellanz01 7 ай бұрын
Beautiful work as always.
@Mike44460
@Mike44460 9 ай бұрын
How do you know that it is sitting on all four parallels the first time you put the finished side down?
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
Check with the shim
@Mike44460
@Mike44460 9 ай бұрын
@ChrisMaj Where I worked, we had IBM punch cards, thousands of them when the key punchers were phased out. Everything that sat on parallels sat on a card as well. The cards were .007 in thickness. Thanks for the reply.
@christianrobloxserver7282
@christianrobloxserver7282 7 ай бұрын
Ugh this is close to what I do for work, why the hell am I watching this on my weekend off
@simeonlabuschagne6630
@simeonlabuschagne6630 4 ай бұрын
This exactly what I do and also watching 😂
@Shockz_BE
@Shockz_BE 4 ай бұрын
Insane at 23:30 how such a big heavy piece like that still wants to chatter :D
@Thatz_Dustin
@Thatz_Dustin 2 ай бұрын
I always get good chips from round inserts but only feeding at .04 to .05 per revolution.
@Thatz_Dustin
@Thatz_Dustin 2 ай бұрын
Not sure the material, i might have missed it, but seems fairly soft. No more than 4130 I assume. Especially dry
@AMGFLIGHT
@AMGFLIGHT 21 күн бұрын
Muy buen trabajo
@RGB06084
@RGB06084 9 ай бұрын
I'm gonna say it's a part for a ski lift or something similar?
@__Ned_Flanders__
@__Ned_Flanders__ 9 ай бұрын
Did you need to get both sides drillings into same position ? And how did you do it
@ChrisMaj
@ChrisMaj 9 ай бұрын
They don't have to be perfect, but I did mark the jaws before flipping it over and then just aligned the marks.
@samimas4343
@samimas4343 2 ай бұрын
Why no coolant at first?
@n.b.p.davenport7066
@n.b.p.davenport7066 2 ай бұрын
I don't need it
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