LARGER LOADER/BACKHOE CYLINDERS! MORE LIFTING POWER!! Performance Upgrades for Compact Tractors!

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Tractor Time with Tim

Tractor Time with Tim

Күн бұрын

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@Kcolby47
@Kcolby47 Жыл бұрын
It is refreshing to see a small business succeed by satisfying needs in the market place and providing excellent customer service. A winning combination. Wishing Kevin well, and continue success. Blessings.
@JimFinlayson
@JimFinlayson Жыл бұрын
I like how you push the limits to help your subscribers make informed decisions.
@kevingebert4316
@kevingebert4316 Жыл бұрын
I'm already adding the new pump to my wish list. That was amazing to see how fast the backhoe was moving at an idle. I'm thinking another area to watch for added stress or breakage could be those outriggers on the backhoe since you'd be able to pull harder while curling and maybe potentially bend something while its all planted firmly in the ground and the whole tractor wants to heave backwards. Tim is definitely on the bleeding edge of trying out new products and stress testing them so we don't have to and to see what works or fails.
@PastorDavidFranklin
@PastorDavidFranklin Жыл бұрын
Nice additions and great job Tim and Kevin! Keep up your great work Kevin!
@minutemanmac
@minutemanmac Жыл бұрын
Kevin's customer service is phenomenal. I work the overnight shift at the PD and sent him an email at 0100hrs about pump questions for my new 2025R that I'd recently ordered and bam, I got a near instant very thorough email back from him on recommendations and statistics. Amazing customer service. I'll definitely be buying the Stage 3 kit when my tractor comes in.
@tomoaktree4951
@tomoaktree4951 Жыл бұрын
Hi Tim, Increasing the capacity is a neat concept. My biggest concern is the longevity of the tractor. Buying a modified tractor with some of these upgrades, such as larger cylinders, would make me nervous. On the other hand, increasing the pump capacity, however is a great idea. I actually think these tractors should have been designed with more pump flow right from the factory.
@pr0jektcha0s
@pr0jektcha0s Жыл бұрын
I agree, the higher pump flow would be welcome. It's also much smoother to operate.
@williamfenner9915
@williamfenner9915 Жыл бұрын
I am very glad to see that you are telling people to use your common sense when using the tractor.
@Alanschmalzried
@Alanschmalzried Жыл бұрын
Interesting product! Thanks for showcasing the products. After upgrading my 1025r to a 2038r in October I’m excited to follow your progress!
@kracer19
@kracer19 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim! I was waiting for in in depth video concerning Hydrosplus's new cylinders! They look Great when paired with the new pump. It is also nice to see a face, to the very smart voice. I also like how both You, and Kevin stand with your customers. It is nice to know that if I break, " Big Sexy", ( 2020 1025r), there is parts to make it better. Love your channel, and I'm looking forward to getting the" weight gauge "
@fullers1966
@fullers1966 Жыл бұрын
Actually all the tests you did with the new cylinders was good it proves the cylinders really improved it especially with the back hole having the wrong bucket and it still works
@Formulabruce
@Formulabruce Жыл бұрын
Tim, a 2R has a full STEEL frame, Engine to rock shaft ,a 3E has a CAST IRON connecting center section to the rear hydro ( like a 50's Deere old school, but hydro). While they may have similar size, the 3E has bigger tires and ground clearance too. Its built at much less cost than a 2R, but does the job.
@johnhable9236
@johnhable9236 Жыл бұрын
My 2R has a cast iron center section and when I clip the pant using it I can see green paint under the black from deer repainting the 3e chassis black for the 2R. It is a 3e with smaller tires.
@danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119
@danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119 Жыл бұрын
Definitely be nice have little more lift. Hope they come up with something for massy soon. Thanks for the video.
@ronharrison1776
@ronharrison1776 Жыл бұрын
Nice additions to our equipment .
@adammiddleton4037
@adammiddleton4037 Жыл бұрын
I love when you “tear things up”
@rustyshackleford498
@rustyshackleford498 Жыл бұрын
The backhoe upgrade is very noticeable even on video. It looks amazing. It must be a night and day difference actually behind the controls.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Used it again yesterday. Had forgotten about the upgrade. Got into a stump and it ripped it out effortlessly. I was shocked….wasn’t until I got home that I remembered the upgrade.
@dave.lawrence.3894
@dave.lawrence.3894 Жыл бұрын
GREAT video, your right ....
@photocontrol
@photocontrol Жыл бұрын
Nice upgrades for the loader and backhoe! I installed larger curl cylinders on my loader which made a big difference, I did loose some curl and dump speed though. I hope to put a larger pump on one day to increase the speed.
@BitCounter
@BitCounter Жыл бұрын
I got chills watching that circular saw attachment. Looks interesting. The chainsaw looks more 'controllable' . Great info..
@pr0jektcha0s
@pr0jektcha0s Жыл бұрын
That thing was scary.
@richardhowell2607
@richardhowell2607 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure glad yall got together on the hydro plus. It's a great product
@adamstone6123
@adamstone6123 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I'm in love with that 2038r! I think it's the ultimate compact tractor!
@rgd2598
@rgd2598 Жыл бұрын
As an owner of a two series… I believe the 3R is the best compact tractor. 3 speeds, better lift , more ground clearance and beefier axles.
@ericlaker1983
@ericlaker1983 Жыл бұрын
Great content. Hydro plus too. I love Hydraulics and showing just .25 of a cylinder and small amount of flow can change work. For the one that are worried about the issues.... don't do it!!!! Others like myself like the idea of a replacement cylinder when i need one and can upgrade!! !!! I love aftermarket that's how new stuff is developed..
@donalexander4083
@donalexander4083 Жыл бұрын
cylinders for my 1025r are pretty close to the top of the wishlist ........ the stage 3 kit has been a real game changer and i am really looking forward to getting the new cylinders
@R3nzo765
@R3nzo765 Жыл бұрын
I Got to work with Tim and he’s a very cool guy! Thank you Tim for the experience and knowledge you shared! It was a pleasure meeting you and working with you! I hope we get to work with each other soon.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed it, Zo!
@lohe
@lohe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, just sent Kevin a email definitely my next upgrade on the 1025r
@larryalbertson3042
@larryalbertson3042 Жыл бұрын
My l525 loader has tiny cylinders for the the size of the loader it’s very smooth and I love the way the valve is made to do two functions at once without any issues, I just think the lift capacity is 10-15% under what I’d like and it’s too fast; I’d often wondered about bigger cylinders. I wasn’t thrilled about “shimming” to build pump pressure. I like Kevin’s approach for a lot of reasons. Don’t let the orange allergy keep ya away! They need a little help too.
@davidbalvin8112
@davidbalvin8112 Жыл бұрын
Tim's Tractor Rod & Custom Shop.
@scottsoper
@scottsoper Жыл бұрын
That is fantastic! Will be nice to lift a little bit heaver pallet.
@AaronTurnwald
@AaronTurnwald Жыл бұрын
Man i want those cylinders and pump on mine!
@floydferguson5366
@floydferguson5366 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@drewmcroberts
@drewmcroberts Жыл бұрын
Great video Tim and Kevin. Every time I watch your videos it makes me want to get a 1025r however it's hard to justify on a 1/4 acre plot.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
I had 0.4 acres when I got my first one. Didn’t need it, it really enjoyed it anyway! Always found stuff to do for neighbors and friends.
@drewmcroberts
@drewmcroberts Жыл бұрын
@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks Tim, all good points. I'll have to start thinking about it more.
@utubota5522
@utubota5522 Жыл бұрын
Years ago, I did this kind of upgrade on my old Yanmar. They worked great, however they identified the next weak link in the chain. I ended up rebuilding my loader to accommodate the additional lift. I made bigger jumps in the rams that you did.
@davidolchewsky5365
@davidolchewsky5365 Жыл бұрын
I found increasing the flow w/ pump And strength with new larger cylinders is a great option to do. I would really like to see such options for the Kubota LX series tractors (spec. LX-2610) and the BH-77 Backhoe. Thanks!
@mohamedodeh5028
@mohamedodeh5028 Жыл бұрын
very Wonderful
@bc65925
@bc65925 Жыл бұрын
My neighbors son, who can tear up an anvil with a rubber mallet, broke the load arm off of his skid steer about 8" up from the pivot point. I have no idea what he was doing. So he brought it over and I got it all aligned back up and welded it. It took about a dozen or so rod to build up all of the grinding I did but it was welded. Then he got stuck in mud up above the tracks and was trying to pull himself out with the bucket and ripped it off from the back side. Since it's made for lifting more than pulling it was weaker on the back side. So I ground off more as now it was bent and got it all aligned back up and welded it again. Then I heated up a large truck leaf spring in my forge and formed it to wrap around the whole thing. He hasn't been back. But this proves that even with the supplied hydraulics you can tear up your equipment.
@jeffpulkrabek6018
@jeffpulkrabek6018 Жыл бұрын
Great video today. Do these alterations to your tractor void the factory warranty ?
@terrygroce1594
@terrygroce1594 Жыл бұрын
Impressive
@Formulabruce
@Formulabruce Жыл бұрын
My Only concern would be the cast steel loader uprights. My older Deere's( 650 through 4005) were all steel loader uprights. Thoughts?
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Really have no idea what might break first. My guess would be the loader booms might be more likely to bend…in other words, prying on side loads. etc.
@markgrehlinger7117
@markgrehlinger7117 Жыл бұрын
Kevin I have a Kubota b7800 bought a brand new in 2002 got 170 hours on it,what can we do to upgrade the cylinders for higher lift capacity (and the more reach)?
@dcidci1012
@dcidci1012 Жыл бұрын
My blue tractors have served me well over the last 30 years, I have many times thought of what it would be like to own green ones & when I see all the extra parts & better parts you have to add to bring them up to where 30 year old blue's are well ???. why don't Deer put the best pump or largest ram possible on it to start with?. My 42 horse (only 4 more than the 2038) has 3.5 inch rams.
@btsllc9676
@btsllc9676 Жыл бұрын
I have a Kubota 23d, it definitely needs improved performance. But, even with upgrades, I can't see it performing as good as the current stock tractors. So I will just install an add a grapple and 3rd function. Great video.
@ricksmith8267
@ricksmith8267 Жыл бұрын
Too bad can't get things for the 4 series tractors or 485A backhoe...do you think that may be in the future?
@briananderson6758
@briananderson6758 Жыл бұрын
Can you do some of these videos showing performance upgrades to kubota bx series?
@Chris-wv4el
@Chris-wv4el Жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd be interested to find out if any of the pump upgrade options would work on the Yanmar sa424.
@royscarbrough3589
@royscarbrough3589 Жыл бұрын
Nice stuff! Blessings
@fullers1966
@fullers1966 Жыл бұрын
Does he have products for older tractors I'm looking at a 1920 Ford but a 30 horse tractor about a 87 model
@kavemanthewoodbutcher
@kavemanthewoodbutcher Жыл бұрын
Oh just what I needed, another really expensive thing I can't live without...
@mainer1755
@mainer1755 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2038R with a non-self leveling loader. Now, I'm sure there are scenarios where I could run out of lift, but I have scooped up a FULL bucket of pea gravel and carried it away with no issues, no hesitation, nothing. On the other hand, that curl cylinder on the 270B has me very, very interested. I ordered a 12" bucket, and I am having all kinds of fun digging up stumps, but it does run out of oomph when I need it most. Concerns: As I'm sure you know, the backhoe moves the whole tractor around when it is really working, and the leveling legs kinda take a lot of abuse. Due to rank stupidity on my part, I get to replace those arms at some point (tried to extend them with pins in) A thousand dollar mistake. They seem to be the weak point to me. What do you think? Will the extra pull damage them? And by the way, thanks. Your video comparing the 1025R and the 2038R was key in my decision making process.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Never had an issue with the outriggers.
@fullers1966
@fullers1966 Жыл бұрын
The new pump on there sort of like going from a low flow hydraulic to a high flow hydraulic
@markcole6475
@markcole6475 Жыл бұрын
Are there rams available for the Kubota LA525 or LA526 loaders? Or something that will work? I’ve increased hydraulic pressure and made a big difference but would rather have bigger rams vs higher pressures.
@celsoncardoso6298
@celsoncardoso6298 Жыл бұрын
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@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@tomoaktree4951
@tomoaktree4951 Жыл бұрын
One more comment, the issue of not enough hydraulic flow is not limited to compact tractors. One the farm I used to work at, we had a John Deere 8520 tractor, and it was running out of hydraulic flow when connected to a John Deere 24 row planter. The next year we upgraded to a 9000 series tractor to overcome this issue.
@eosjoe565
@eosjoe565 Жыл бұрын
Are the hose nipples on the replacement cylinders welded better than the OEM cylinders? I'm thinking they probably are.
@richardniswander6090
@richardniswander6090 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to watch. Use the correct size tractor for the job.
@jeffreycurrie3410
@jeffreycurrie3410 Жыл бұрын
I’m quite intrigued. But, What kind of affect will these types of upgrades do to the balance of factory warranty. You were more clear when you stopped just short of putting nitrous oxide on the “extreme”. Stating your warranty was out the window.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Don’t view ‘warranty’ as all or nothing. If you upgrade your loader cylinders and break the loader boom, no warranty. Your loader cylinders will not impact some unrelated breakage.
@MARKLOCKWOOD2012
@MARKLOCKWOOD2012 Жыл бұрын
you might take a trailer receiver hitch mount it on top of the forks weld up a receiver bracket sleeve it together your saw arm is out too far?
@Gzus
@Gzus Жыл бұрын
Any upgrade kits planned for the 45 loader on the X-series tractors?
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
No.
@LKN117
@LKN117 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if there were options like this for the Kubota BX series. I've not seen anything like this so far. I know upgrading the pump on a BX would be extremely difficult to develop and most likely unfeasible given how they are designed. But cylinders I don't see why not.
@projectswithjw
@projectswithjw Жыл бұрын
BX cylinders should be available next month at Hydrosplus. The new cylinders add almost 10 inches to lift height in addition to more lift capacity
@LKN117
@LKN117 Жыл бұрын
@@projectswithjw Thanks for the info!
@yvonnejohnson1557
@yvonnejohnson1557 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Tim I just wonder what's the weight limit on the front axle of that tractor thanks from Gary
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Good question. We don’t understand the axle ratings.
@markbottoms64
@markbottoms64 Жыл бұрын
I’m interested in the 24” bucket used in this video… Is this a JD part or aftermarket? Does anyone have a part number or place to purchase? Thanks in advance…
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
MuddsCustoms.com use code ttwt for a 5% discount. This bucket is great!
@markbottoms64
@markbottoms64 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@GreyMassey
@GreyMassey Жыл бұрын
Can you change the self leveling into a standard loader by changing the linkage on it.
@douglasbuhr5741
@douglasbuhr5741 Жыл бұрын
that is cool I wonder if there are similar upgrades for Kubota tractors
@projectswithjw
@projectswithjw Жыл бұрын
BX products are coming soon to hydrosplus
@bubbahyde4236
@bubbahyde4236 Жыл бұрын
I didn't hear any specs given on the factory vs new hydraulic pump setup. I.e. gpm and psi. Would really like to know the difference. Thanks
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
hydrosplus.com has details. On the 2028r, basically doubled the implement flow. From just less than 5gpm to 10GPM.
@adamm2716
@adamm2716 Жыл бұрын
i totally forgot i reached out to these guys about upgrades... would be great if i had enough flow so i could run skid steer attchments on my loader
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Yea. That would indeed be great. We’re trying…but this is a tall order :-)
@JCWren
@JCWren Жыл бұрын
Is the self-leveling loader mechanically different from the non-self-leveling version? Or does the difference come down strictly to hydraulics?
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is why it is called ‘mechanically self leveling’.
@JCWren
@JCWren Жыл бұрын
@@TractorTimewithTim Ah. I either didn't hear the "mechanically" part or it wasn't mentioned. You'd think a hydraulic self-leveling system would be not all that difficult. And it could be enabled/disabled as needed.
@yvonnejohnson1557
@yvonnejohnson1557 Жыл бұрын
Will I hurt the front bearings on the axles thanks from Gary
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Bouncing is what destroys the front end. Go slow with heavy load.
@Thecowboy1950
@Thecowboy1950 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if them larger cylinders work on older tractors like the 4200 420 loader
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Would have to work with Kevin on that question.
@jeff1jeffs
@jeff1jeffs Жыл бұрын
Do you plan on doing a lift capacity test with the new cylinders?
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Hopefully, yes.
@scottfoster2487
@scottfoster2487 Жыл бұрын
Smarter move it to buy the correct tractor from the beging,modifications just risk failure.
@Skynet-1
@Skynet-1 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 2025R with MSL loader and wish I could get more lift height on it.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Quite frankly, more lift height would be too dangerous on this small tractor.
@mikevonhoene6824
@mikevonhoene6824 Жыл бұрын
Be careful with the inlet size on the larger pump! Suction issues will cavitate the pump and "kill" it!
@hoyks1
@hoyks1 Жыл бұрын
The down side is that the implements move faster and now throw dirt at you. A nice problem to have.
@Tony2tall
@Tony2tall Жыл бұрын
Would like to see the backhoe bucket removed and a single root hook in its place.
@eosjoe565
@eosjoe565 Жыл бұрын
Do you no longer lease those tractors? The reason I ask is I can't imagine the dealer allowing those types of mods on a leased machine.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
I own all of these now, cept the 3R which is leased.
@MARKLOCKWOOD2012
@MARKLOCKWOOD2012 Жыл бұрын
your putting stresses on tires,rims etc as long as it’s not past your comfort levels to. make sure your tires are properly inflated so your not riding on the rim cutting the tire. best to go load your bucket as full of weight n play around
@lowercherty
@lowercherty Жыл бұрын
One weak point I see is that when the backhoe is pulling hard the stabilizing arms are flexing a lot. Wouldn't want to break those.
@briangc1972
@briangc1972 Жыл бұрын
Going from a 1.5" cylinder to a 2" cylinder is almost double the lifting force. A better, safer choice would be a 1.75" cylinder, that would yield a 50% increase in lift force with significantly less of a speed penalty.
@rickm9504
@rickm9504 Жыл бұрын
Is he planning on providing any "orange" cylinders in the future?
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Dunno. They would look really ugly on these green tractors :-)
@d.a.ballou9740
@d.a.ballou9740 Жыл бұрын
👍
@kerrybowden9097
@kerrybowden9097 Жыл бұрын
I think your bucket with the teeth will be the weak point where the pin that holds the bucket on.
@scottsoper
@scottsoper Жыл бұрын
If the bucket is the week point than that is vary good news! One can tear up a bucket and easily take it off and weld it and just put on a different one to finish the job.
@kerrybowden9097
@kerrybowden9097 Жыл бұрын
@@scottsoper I typed that because it is what mine did...
@clayseale
@clayseale Жыл бұрын
Please do LS tractors!
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
That is part of the price you pay for getting a less popular machine. I know it hurts to hear that.
@clayseale
@clayseale Жыл бұрын
@@TractorTimewithTim between it, Montana, New Holland there has to be enough demand...
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
At least 80 percent of the market is held between Kubota and Deere. Also, folks who chose to save a few bucks when buying by choosing off brands typically are not willing to purchase accessories and upgrades. So, no, there is not sufficient demand. I do not mean to be offensive. Just stating the facts.
@raymondlanier1112
@raymondlanier1112 Жыл бұрын
Can I. Upgrade on a 2015 1025 r
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@raymondlanier1112
@raymondlanier1112 Жыл бұрын
@@TractorTimewithTim cool the only reason I want to upgrade is I have a Lincoln 225 welder and I probably lack about 200 lbs of lift maybe less to pick it up and load it in trailer . Do I need to up grade pump too ? That’s literally the only thing I need to lift passed it’s capacity and I use the bucket with a hook I have on there
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
@@raymondlanier1112 sounds good!
@rcwayt4020
@rcwayt4020 Жыл бұрын
An interesting comparison would be to do a lift test with the new cylinders and pump, compared to stock.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
We ran out of time.
@rcwayt4020
@rcwayt4020 Жыл бұрын
@@TractorTimewithTim I understand that. Seems like that happens alot.
@petewalker98
@petewalker98 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t you figure out a Modification to “Disable Self-Leveling”, when you don’t need it?
@eosjoe565
@eosjoe565 Жыл бұрын
How would you do that exactly? Keep in mind, these loaders are "MSL". That means "Mechanical" self leveling. Meaning it's the linkage that keeps the bucket level. There is no way to disable that. There are other style loaders which are "HSL" meaning "Hydraulic" self leveling. On those the operator can turn the leveling feature on and off.
@craigflatley7370
@craigflatley7370 Жыл бұрын
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@randallthomas5207
@randallthomas5207 Жыл бұрын
I would be very hesitant to do this, with out a lot of structural analysis. The systems you are playing with are designed by some highly trained and experienced engineers to use the miminmum amount of materials to meet the design standard, plus a safety factor. As you apply the “little more stress” you are utilizing the safety factor. I’d be very hesitant at doing that.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын
Fair enough. …in that case, you should not!
@michaelwillcutt2619
@michaelwillcutt2619 Жыл бұрын
Tractor is rated at a certain level of capability going stronger than it can handle will break the tractor to point of damage cost more than value. I would never buy a piece of equipment you have ever owned . Hear yourself the standard equipment manufacturer puts on them is maximum for modle
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