Larry's Delta CAR-15

Brought to you by our good friends at Aimpoint, Larry takes a trip down memory lane and breaks down a clone of the Car-15 he used during his time in Delta Force.
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[@Cwhandle]

30 years ago the tip of spear was running with hose clamps, and duct tape. Let that sink in for a moment.

[@rougarou1559]

And KICKING ASS!

[@muazazman3999]

Back when spec ops used to make fun of Gucci

[@HurricaneGaming509]

@@muazazman3999 Now Spec Ops *is* Gucci

[@yosour6733]

Chris Wilkins shoot the tip of the spear still diy there own shit half of the times it’s still janky but I guess if it works how janky can it be

[@springbloom5940]

You should see the bullshit SeALs do.

[@husky701rider9]

And to think now there is a debate on keymod vs mlock. “Back in my day we used hose clamps!”

[@LRRPFco52]

More secure than either...lol

[@toddw14]

I believe Keymod lost that debate based on the reports from trials I've read.

[@nikoh4591]

@@toddw14 I heard that keymod is slightly more robust than mlok in the long run = no significant difference

[@xmm-cf5eg]

Both Keymod and mlock are gimmicky shit trying to steal people's money. Rails are fine, no need to change them, anyone that complains about the "weight" of a standard rail is a bench queen.

[@mike77gmc]

7.62 x39mm Amen brother.

[@emersonbolen784]

Brings back SO many memories from my days in A Squadron...

[@VickersTacticalLAV]

Mack !!! How’s it going brother!! I hope your well !!

[@donandrew7063]

You were a Delta guy last named Bolen, well definitely in the 80s/90s, your nick name was "Mack"!" I love those books

[@on2wheels378]

Larry's looking low drag and high speed these days.

[@jashroy]

Let us all take note of his weight loss.

[@CA.0verview]

Damn finally busting out systems he cut his teeth in . That’s a scary thought. Screw the boogie man .

[@siestatime4638]

You call LAV "Dame"? That's even scarier... I don't have your cojones.

[@ThiccJungles]

Siesta Time I believe he meant to type “Damn” or “Daaaayyuuuummm”

[@CA.0verview]

J D it has been corrected ! Lol

[@josephvandyck5469]

Larry was the Boogie Man that went bump in the night.

[@Je3perscre3pers]

Yeah watching him run that car15..... he was just so relaxed. Like hes mastered everything about that rifle

[@9HoleReviews]

Sweet rig! The exact clone of my service weapon is available at academy, off the shelf. I was not special.

[@kalvinle2201]

Hi Henry!

[@whiskeyactual.]

Same, can easily order my service rifle straight from BCM lol

[@JeanLucCaptain]

is it true that these were modified to sound like AKs?

[@logancurl9526]

@@JeanLucCaptain no, not at all. I've done tons of reading and research on all kinds of weapon platforms, especially the M16 family of rifles and carbines, and I've never heard or read such a claim. Furthermore, i build numerous AR 15's every year, and based on the limited knowledge I have, I don't even see how one would go about trying to do that, or more importantly WHY someone would attempt such a thing. But I do personally know several Vietnam vets, one being my grandfather whom served 3 tours over there, and 2 other vets I know quite well, one Army and abd the other Navy (although his job was usually not on a ship, and could be considered a type of "infantry-esque" m.o.s) told me that depending on what unit you were in, and how well the members of your unit collected enemy magazines and ammo, most of them preferred to carry Chinese or Russian AKM (commonly called AK-47) rifles that had been captured from enemy forces, or collected from the battlefield after a fight. The navy guy said that nearly his entire platoon carried enemy AKM's, each with a complete load-out of good. Magazines, and he said they had more captured 7.62x39 ammo than you could ever wish for back at his unit. And this was carried instead of their issued service rifles, M14's and M16's, which were usually left wherever they called "home" base any particular time. He said you just had to be absolutely sure to keep track of your issued weapon, to not get in serious hot water

[@JeanLucCaptain]

@@logancurl9526 that is very interesting! not surprising that US troops dumped their unreliable and clunky M-14s and early m-16's for captured AKMs. but apparently, the reason why these m16s were modified (it was a very limited issue modification of car-15's) was so that firing your weapon wouldn't immediately make you a US soldier by sound at least. it was used in DEEP recon or black ops units.

[@wayneelliot2827]

I joined the USMC at 17 years old. Trained with the M-14. We were blindfolded and the lights were turned off. We could take that weapon apart,clean the weapon,and put the weapon back together,ready to fire. We go to infantry training later on down the line,and we are handed an M-16. None of us knew what this weapon was,nor did we know how to field strip it. Luckily we had a recruit who had been Army and he taught us how to clean the M-16.!

[@CrossOfBayonne]

We're you in the 1st Marine Division by any chance some of my friends were.

[@unmalo2768]

And?

[@garenosborn]

That aimpoint really brings back the memories. When i was 17 back in 88 my mom bought me my first handgun, a ruger mk2 target model. She asked the guy at the gun counter to put a laser sight on it (no clue why, but cool mom) and he brings this laser sight out that was about the size of a carton of cigarettes. He says, you really don't want this, its too big and you got to wear these special glasses during the daylight to see the laser. He passes me this aimpoint and says this is what you want. So we bought it, waited the 7 or 15 days to pick up a pistol in those days and he mounted it up and zeroed it and i shot it like that for a while. Then i got my first ar15 in 89, an olympic arms rifle, 20" barrel with the a2 furniture but an a1 upper receiver, first gun I ever bought myself, with my own money. After a couple of range trips I got the wild idea to mount my aimpoint onto it, got basically that exact mount and put it on there. Shot it for a while in really early 2 gun matches. What a great trip down memory lane.

[@Dan-di9jd]

Sounds pretty cool. Do you still have that Mk2?

[@almost_friday9745]

@Dr. Brule shut the fuck up

[@joshuakang4507]

Lmao your moms badass

[@kyledunn6853]

I love the Car-15. It's so retro and shows how far we've come in firearms. Looks awesome to have and I might build one to these specs minus full-auto of course. Thank you Larry and all the guys in Delta Force for such great innovations for these weapons. 👍💪🇺🇸

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

@tvercetti1 indeed

[@TrapperPingu]

@tvercetti1 It was actually put in law illegally www.quora.com/Did-the-machine-gun-ban-by-the-Hughes-amendment-get-enough-votes-to-be-passed-properly look at 8 min mark and overall all of these idiot politicians must be charged with treason! Also the NFA/ATF the killer of the 2nd has to go! why? taxing a right... $200 Or $5 for putting a "Foregrip" on a pistol with the stupidest name for a gun "Any Other Weapon" (www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/18/aow/ Details of this dumb law...) ENOUGH SAID.

[@dasboot9471]

How far we've come? It's basically been the same weapon since '68.

[@joshlundy78]

Still a good weapon too

[@user-oy9zy4ds9m]

Roosevelt was a tyrant

[@GallowsPole805]

“This is the CAR-15; the weapon I primarily used to kill scores of the enemy in my time in Delta.”

[@bennelson3724]

I like to think of it more as “making the world a better place”

[@Tungstenum666]

He improvised the mag clamp from cardboard and duct tape??? An airsofter somewhere must be having a stroke at watching this.

[@prophetcitrus9638]

@Xtira224 I made mine with 2 dollars worth of quarters, duct tape them together 4 quarters each, and then duct tape the mags together with the quarters inbetween.

[@xmm-cf5eg]

I did mine for my AK with a plastic mint tin and blue electrical car tape, had to use blue to respect the soviets who did it first on their rifles. No clue why anyone would buy mag clamps when tape still exists.

[@RekzysTheTitan]

@@xmm-cf5eg ok boomer.

[@spawnofthehell]

Most airsofters do the same thing

[@Nismolover]

We do this, what are you talking about bröther

[@Themichaelwesten]

OG Hose Clamp Flashlight Mount, too legit 😎

[@catsfrommars]

"An elegant weapon... For a more civilized age"

[@sampsonlll1825]

As long as you have the high ground*

[@PrototypeBMX]

@@sampsonlll1825 I HATE YOU

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

Not as clumsy or random as quad rails

[@downfromkentuckeh]

@@PrototypeBMX 🤣🤣

[@gunchief0811]

You must learn the ways of the force as your father did if ur gonna be a Jedi.. "You knew my father?"

[@fjamato]

Glad you made it back LAV. Your knowledge shared in videos and at your courses is amazing. Thanks brother.

[@VickersTacticalLAV]

Thanks

[@ryanchai8054]

“Got me home safely, I thank you Car 15 for your service” Something Larry should say. 🤧

[@go_horse]

I like how he said it got him through harm's way instead of out of harm's way. Legend.

[@nathanielbleker7906]

Great to see an old workhorse like the aimpoint 2000 still in working order all these years later.

[@georgerobartes5989]

Interesting. I've still got my Armson OEG from way back . Managed to get it serviced some 20+ years ago when Armson was still alive in the UK . I still have my paperwork and guarantee . Trijicon refused to honour the lifetime guarantee last time I tried to have it recharged , perhaps they will honour it now they are reproducing them again . Must be pushing 40 years old now and still in great condition. In those days you looked after your kit and it would look after you .

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

In the mid 70s, the Blue Light Task Force showed us (Rangers) how to mount pistol grips to the forend of our CAR15s and taping a Mag Light on it as well. That combination was excellent!!

[@LK-zt9vf]

Scary thought Larry and the CAR-15 busting through a door with the fun switch on...

[@gorrillasnake]

The CAR 15 looks wayyy better than a souped up tactical AR

[@LRRPFco52]

CAR-15 is a bit of a misnomer but was commonly used when speaking of Commando variants. CAR-15 was in reality a Colt family of weapons proposal that never really went anywhere. It included the Colt 603 (M16A1 rifle), Colt 605 Infantry Leader’s carbine that looked like a dissipator but was 15” barrel, full length rifle handguards, Colt 607 Commando with 10” barrel and modified cut-down triangle handguards with cut-down rifle stock that would telescope, Colt 608 USAF Survival Carbine, and Colt belt-fed AR-15 machine-gun with heavy barrel. The 607 evolved into the XM177 with dedicated handguards and the new telesctock, which later was refined into the XM177E2 with 11.5” barrel and 4.5” moderator, same receivers as the M16A1.

[@jansandman6983]

Nothing beats the classics

[@rojayreid908]

They are technically similar guns.

[@sneakypete7849]

Takes me back to the day when we used the XM-177 in the early 70's. A lot of techno advances since then. But the old stuff still works in the right hands. Thanks for the trip down memory lane Larry.

[@earlyprimate]

i carried the GAU5 (aka XM-177) as USAF SP in the late 80s. Just built a clone of it recently.

[@khakipeach2128]

what unit?

[@AnonEMus-cp2mn]

Good to see a relic from the past. I could only imagine what it would look like in Vicker's hands riding on a little bird during that night in Panama.

[@leroyatleroys]

I love looking at old school setups. We really are spoiled with the various handguards and modular accessories available today. Even I was eventually issued an M4 with the quad rail handguard and 4 point adjustable stock. Glad to say I went through training with an M16A4 with Iron Sights. My current civilian AR is way more tricked out than any of my service rifles.

[@joneldelima1154]

You're getting younger and fit! Welcome back soldier!

[@dongblak7048]

*"The Panama Special"*

[@Yeahhhhman]

IVE NEVER CLICKED SO FAST

[@Themichaelwesten]

Hervapn Concepts fr

[@GreenBeretUSA]

Awesome Larry just awesome, one of the best guy in the industry today.

[@gkft]

A E S T H E T I C

[@l33thaxor33]

comblockomrad GREAT PIECE OF KIT LETS KICK IT OFF

[@somerandommen]

Not really, the MCX is aesthetic as fuck, not the CAR-15...

[@joshshuster2916]

Imagine charging into high risk operations with a weapons system that features innertube, spray paint, hardware store hose claps and a flashlight that at its best was probably putting out considerably less lumens than my edc pocket flashlight. Mad props.

[@AbnsundevilL7]

Love the rifle. Love what you’re doing with your weight/fitness. It’s noticeable. Keep it up!

[@cjs19kilo]

Is nobody else going to mention how great Larry is looking in these recent vids? Can’t be easy to shed those pounds as you get older, much respect!

[@VickersTacticalLAV]

Thanks !!

[@45obiwan]

Loved that rifle with 203 on it, didn't have any optics on that one but, I carried an A2 with a 22" barrel as my DM rifle. It had a Vietnam era starlight scope I could clip on.

[@tackytrooper]

They made A2s with 22" barrels? That's news to me. [googling intensifies]

[@45obiwan]

@@tackytrooper something special cooked up by our armorer.

[@a-n-d-r-e-w-k]

Hell yeah. Early 90s, I love it.

[@isaacdepaula2103]

It was used both by Delta Force and the SAS during the Gulf War, dude this weapon is so beautiful...

[@carlreeves6108]

Thank you for your service sir

[@VickersTacticalLAV]

Thanks

[@Elev8minh]

Mr. Vickers, if you read your comments I just want to tell you thank you so much for your service and sacrifices to the United States of America. I am building this exact rifle to not only educate my kids but also to keep the memory alive and pass down to them. ❤️❤️❤️❤️Praying for your FULL RECOVERY sir. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@HHenry-tt1of]

Its crazy how a weaponlight and red dot have progressed in a relatively short time

[@gcm423]

God that hits the spot, great vid

[@outdooroutpost6061]

Damn Larry lost a ton of weight. Holy smokes good job

[@ryangowin1988]

I think i get what your doing here. "Nostalgia", when you look at it, your trying to bring back some memories you had with this set up. Cool stuff.

[@tonydeaton1967]

Eugene Stoner people. In service for a half-century and still going strong.

[@JohnChandler2006]

That's awwsome!!! Would love to see more about the kit and systems you used in service. Thank you for your service, and for sharing your knowledge!

[@luissantiago5163]

Sexy beast. Interesting flashlight and neato double mag. Nice little peice.

[@ronsmith9251]

I love this weapon, I've been trying to clone one for years. C7 uppers were hard to find for a good minute, that is until Brownell's started to sell them again.

[@davidchen5061]

It's really interesting to see how operators of old would tinker with their equipment and how it might have influenced future iterations of weapons and gear. Thanks for the video - I really enjoyed it!

[@ChrisB.C.]

Now THAT'S a retro build! Great video as always, Larry, but this one is genuinely special to me. Thank you.

[@FunWithGuns]

It's amazing to see how far things have come. This was a crude but effective setup. Thanks for all the cool vids, hard work and for your service!

[@rasheedw.8480]

Thanks Larry not just for your service to our country, but your honestly and great advice you give us civilians. You are still serving your country just as much today imo.

[@skuhzee]

“Fear the old man in a profession where men die young” there’s just something so badass knowing that Larry used this to stack bodies back in the day.

[@mountainmantv4713]

Love it Man U guys did what u had to do to make it work good ole American emprovising and helping the future soldier by companies seeing what that era soldier needed and had to come up with improvising and adapting so now companies can refine different products and u are true about some the mag couplers walking the top round out I hate that

[@glooberglobber1598]

his recoil control is so mind-blowing

[@goosecouple]

I noticed that too. His support arm seems to be floating while fingers lightly gripping on the forend.

[@bigclen5206]

It's 556 😂

[@matthewh271]

Larry Vickers Happy Veterans Day Sir. Also. You’re looking good these days. Sir keep up the content and thank you.

[@VickersTacticalLAV]

Thanks!

[@ssgar6191]

I’ll always love that throwback style of AR that I grew up seeing as a kid that made me love the AR

[@user-um4jt7yq6w]

Nice full auto control; you're definitely one and at ease with the weapon.

[@Lapinmiez]

Even though its only 5,56 that recoil control is just beautiful and with regular birdcage. Makes the regular rangeboy with that artillery muzzle break on his ar look like a fool

[@bri13wvu1]

Totally. I can agree because I was that idiot once! For a year or two. No longer though

[@jacobflores7621]

My dad still has his CAR 15. He bought back in the 80’s and got grandfathered under the old laws here in California. Looks almost exactly the same just no sights or light. Has the 14in barrel with built in flash suppressor. Super nice gun.

[@SuperPwndProductions]

Thanks for your service, Larry. Glad you made it back in one piece.

[@nicolasbocchino3761]

*Spec ops operator Uses cardboard and tape to hold together two mags. I love it

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

Who needs McGyver, right? LAV rocks the house....

[@heroicsplendid]

The Delta Forces’ weapon of choice.

[@Impulset0]

HAH. I served 3 years in the IDF and we always used coupled mags with metal couplers. It became a constant habit to slam the magazine into your head before loading the second magazine in the coupler because the round always hung forward. Damn vibrations!

[@nekokyun944]

That set up is so f***ing cool. What a piece man...

[@richarddugger9357]

For a second I thought he strapped a fleshlight to the hand guard.

[@TroutButter]

lol Now THERE'S an idea! brb I gotta go....do something real quick. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@TheBillyReb]

Cool. Maybe you can do the M16A2 next? Make it a series: "Military Small Arms from 1985 to 2000".

[@johnbu9098]

Dude’s shooting full auto like it’s semi, the fire control is so good. Then again, he’s the A squad so... I’m so glad to see a living legend. Forever a hero in my heart.

[@marklovelace297]

That ain't no three shot burst - frkn impressive, doesn't do it justice! May this man have a never ending supply of .223! Thank you sir for your service and for sharing your expertise with us!

[@Mrgunsngear]

🇺🇸

[@leannesundell9126]

@Marcus Cornelius calm the fuck down lmao

[@TWH-lp4bn]

@@leannesundell9126 no fuck that shit

[@yermaw4103]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Bustamamgendut]

My dad used to carry Colt AR-15 Model 603, loading 20 instead of 28 round inside 30 round magazine, jungle style taped in Malaysian jungle when he was served as Malaysian Jungle Police in 1980s.

[@317riflepro1996]

Thank you for your service, Larry!

[@bgrv07]

I have a Colt SP1 carbine that's still in great condition. It's good to see some love for the old school platforms.

[@tyates4398]

Man this rifle is exactly why i laugh at the tacticool shit that people pack onto their AR-15s. Just goes to show, its not the instrument, but the musician playing it.

[@luislongoria6621]

Hold Up Squiddie, This Is a GroundPounder Forum

[@tyates4398]

@@luislongoria6621 Marine

[@blackwatch6649]

@@tyates4398 Still Navy

[@bushwhackedonvhs]

this is just a more primitive way of doing the same thing. I adopted the same basic technique, 100mph taping my light on, doing the dual mag thing, because I just don't care about having a super clean aesthetic. I like my kind of crap looking rattle canned AR, it is its own look and feel.

[@Rhethion]

I actually have a long tube version of the Aimpoint 2000 mounted to my M16A1

[@matthewhoward5822]

Nothing beats "Ol Faithful"!!! Glad you shared that warhorse with the rest of us!👍👍

[@heartandmindovercome3214]

Breaking into Larry's house would probably be both the worst and last day of your life. Thanks for all the instructional video Larry, they're awesome.

[@militarydocumentariesinc.7007]

The Original Gucci AR !!👍🏻🇺🇸💪🏻

[@pcb8639]

Just shows that simplicity and ingenuity can win the fight.

[@808INFantry11X]

Necessity is mother of all invention

[@leeharden3724]

Hey Larry, I know you might not even see this but I’m proud of what you’ve accomplished with your body regarding weight loss. You’re the definition of motivation to a lot of people out there man and bro, keep up the good work!

[@michaelholts1598]

In 79 & 80 the variant I was issued had the 11.5” barrel with a 4” muzzle device. We were also 100mph taping a cut off mop handle under the foregrip and rigging adjustable slings with the issue black sling and para cord using prusic knots to adjust. I purchased my own Bushnell 3.5x scope and carry handle mount. Amazingly maintained zero when swapping with the AN/PVS 2 starlight scope.

[@Original_Master]

I saw this on forgotten weapons xD

[@bobbyricigliano2799]

That CAR-15 may seem like a dated design. But I will bet the Special Forces guys that carried them in that era could have accomplished their missions with Garands, M1 carbines, and Thompson SMG’s if they had to.

[@DakotaofRaptors]

Dude, imagine carrying a Garand into a modern battlefield!

[@Popzholy]

When hose clamps and 100 mile an hour tape make you look better than a billion dollar video game, love ya brother

[@budstermcgreen6360]

The sweeet sounds of freedom! Cool to see what you guys had to work with and how you adapted things to your needs. Kinda makes me appreciate what we have now as far as accessories. Thanks for you're service and the awesome content LAV! ✌

[@JoshWBergeron]

I can't remember the last time I clicked on a KZbin video so quickly.

[@mauriciosanchezmeza5200]

This gun is actually pretty similar to the m4

[@brandonparker1469]

America!!!!!! Thank you for your service Mr. Larry

[@michaelshea5622]

Old school is good, brother. I'm sure a lot of guys would roll their eyes today but I'm thinking that weapon served you well and put rounds on target. Well enough to bring you home and that's all that matters. Thanks for all you do, Larry.

[@Gloomshadow100]

Yeah they may talk shit but that powerful IR flashlight combined with some AN-PVS7 night vision googles is a killer combo. The only thing out of date is the old Aimpoint but even that is better than irons for what his mission was.

[@lrsd3drrd448]

Ah, the weapon that started all of my hopes and fantasies about what my military career was going to be like, but then Uncle Sugar replaced it by the time I got into the community. It was like your high school sweetheart broke up with you at prom, but then I received my first "Mk18" and it was like the PMOY slapped your sweetheart for breaking your heart and then blew you in the parking lot.

[@lucschwab6045]

Great video!! May I ask what was the camera that was used to shoot this video? The slowmo is absolutely perfect!! Thanks in advance!

[@bromansboy]

Wow....Vickers seemed really at home with this rifle...I see why it's so impartial to him. God bless....

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

It’s amazing how creative they had to get with mounting accessories before there were rails on hand guards and upper receivers

[@SpartanStan156]

This is not an assault rifle.... IT'S A HISTORY!!! AN OLD SCHOOL)))

[@GoofysBandit]

Jesus, I can't believe THIS was the tip of the spear.

[@gazerzgarage9487]

Only other person I’d heard say 100mph tape was a UPS mechanic guy I used to work with. I love everything about this video

[@Warriorbob-im5py]

Really cool seeing how far weapon mounted lights, mag clamps, and aimpoints have come since the 90s!

[@JakeHunter2010]

Makes you appreciate the kinda high tech firearms we got nowadays. #JakeHunter88

[@Gloomshadow100]

Its not the firearms themselves really, its just the lights and optics that have improved and the lights and optics wouldn't have helped us much back in the 90s when i was in the infantry. Lights were a total no-no, youd be killed if you turned a light on at night..l and optics wouldnt have helped you much either bc in the warfare we were training for it was all about vietnam style ambush, you never saw the enemy they just shot at you from concealment. All this new stuff you have came from a new warfare thats more like a law enforcement type situation. Mechanized house to house fighting. Way we fought and trained back in the 70s 80s and 90s was alot different, lights and optics werent needed, it was all close range ambush at night in the bushes..low visibility in thick vegetation.

[@synystur21]

Awesome 👍, 5 chairborne rangers disliked this video!

[@chrischiampo7647]

Mark Chaverri lol 🤣

[@AlbertaDMode]

Thank You for your service, Larry! Fantastic rifle! Straightforward design. Life-saving and simple.

[@pabloambrosio2861]

So old school gun , much improvise attachments very cool .

[@fnfalguy]

That was so awesome I feel like I just watched some porn.

[@FunWithGuns]

Welcome to the world of gorn my friend 🤣

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

No. Porn degrades you, this video made you more of a man.

[@yutaja]

4:29-4:50 sounds like an airsoft gun. I love the videos but the added sound effects are pretty dumb decisions imo.

[@ES90344]

I agree, love the slowmo but ditch the fake sounds.

[@SuperPwndProductions]

AlaskanGunGeek I don’t know a lot about slow mo video editing, but I think once you slow it down to a certain point you can’t even tell what you’re hearing because it’s so slowed down. Maybe less editing on the shots at regular speed, but I don’t think there’s much Larry can do for the slow mo shots that would make them sound better than adding a little editing.

[@insertnamehere001]

His camera doesn't record slow-motion sound. So playing the audio in slow motion would leave 'gaps' where the audio wasn't recorded. Or something like that. Basically, Larry said his camera doesn't record sound.

[@RADIOACTIVEBUNY]

It's getting really bad. Like it was okay with the slow mo, but the video game gun sounds on the normal speed stuff and the weird noises when the shots hit the steel are just horrid.

[@mattlee3526]

I have a quasi clone of car 15 I love the retro look I did because I liked Larry Vickers car 15

[@sb17899]

Love the aesthetics when it's configured in this setup.