Traditional Lag vs Downhinge

[@WilliamWilsonEgoliGolf]

Outstanding instruction, Mr Cheung..! Thanks, William

[@tomeldridge2915]

Keep preaching Larry. Trying to hold the angles has been ruinous to me and tens of thousands of others. Before the advent of stop action photos ( which are deceptive ) good players would fling the club head with no concern about casting or shaft lean at impact. My intent is to get the lead arm and the club shaft in a straight line as soon as possible, ie down hinge.The feeling is my lead arm is still horizontal when this happens. Add positive rotation and “magic” happens. Thanks for confirming what I have been practicing.

[@grpwmc]

Dear Larry - I know youtube isn't your thing anymore. But thank you. Thank you for being literally the only person online talking about this. Once it reaches the mainstream, it's going to change golf instruction forever. But the way you teach this concept is missing something crucial.... that the "downhinge" (aka the movement into ulnar deviation of the wrists) is the true "source of power" from the wrists. I'm sure you do this inentionally - to avoid golfers doing it wrong. But you also never mention it. That "close the doorknob" feel in your trail hand - staying bent but hinging HARD AND DOWN into ulnar deviation is how you take advantage of all that great rotational body work to generate speed. And the reason its so effective is exactly for the reasons you say - it allows you generate speed via the wrists while maintaining a square club face and a shallow path. One alternative "thought" I have for this concept is you want to try to feel the club pointing "up" your arm by the time you get to impact. The other is borrowed from you with "thumbs point away from the target. And by the way, learning this helps a tonne with short game too. Want to know how I know? Because I just taught this same thing to four friends who had the same struggle and they all instantly got the same perfect impact position. Trail arm bent, hands ahead of the ball, lead shoulder higher than the trail shoulder. This includes my 70 year old dad, my athletic friend who took up golf this year, and two of my life long golf buddies who have lived in in the mid 80s for way too long because of a few errant tee shots and missed greens. This is the most important, and least understood, concept in golf. Thank you for being my online (and sometimes in person) coach for the last 6 years because finally realizing this has changed my game forever. Every single one of your other teachings becomes "unlocked" by this concept.

[@LarryCheungGolf]

Hey G, i will be back to youtube this year, hope u been good and see u soon!!! =)

[@cl5360]

The content is great, the way you describe down hinge has been a game changer for me. Thanks Larry!

[@justinstephenson9360]

I think the problem with "holding the wrist angles" is that the wrist has 3 different angles it can move through: radial movement (I think that is the right terms but equivalent to hinge and down hinge that you describe), inflexion (the cupped or bowed wrist at top of backswing) and finally rotational (your wrist turning as though round a clock face). I know that for my best golf I definitely need to hold off on rotational movement - for me that just sends the ball left. I am sure there probably remains some, but I need the feeling of not rotating the wrists through the strike. I also believe in the feeling of hanging on to the inflexion set up in the backswing. It just helps me deliver the club square to the ball. When you talk about "traditional lag" it seems to me that you are referring to what I have described as radial movement. It makes perfect sense to me to unwind any of that movement as early as possible in the downswing because for many people it is the weakest way the wrist can move (especially for me as I have a long term weakness caused by an injury in my lead wrist). Is that what you meant?

[@canefan17]

If it sends the ball left then you need to rotate more and not stall out.

[@justinstephenson9360]

@@canefan17 I think you misunderstood -my comment, the rotation I am talking about is wrist/forearm rotation not body rotation. I agree that stalling in body rotation will send the ball left because the arms get ahead of the body before the strike, that will deliver a pull shot usually. However, the ball also flies left if you have too much wrist/forearm rotation - it can work if you have impeccable hand/eye co-ordination and timing but for me it is far more likely to deliver an uncontrolled hook that ends up 30+ yards left

[@JakeCraner]

I picked up golf again this year after a 15 year hiatus and a back surgery. I decided I would rebuild my swing from the ground up and I am so glad I found your channel. I had a very traditional swing, but with downhinge and driving the downswing with my feet/legs/hips, I am certain I picked up close to 10mph clubhead speed with less effort and more consistency. Thank you for all the content!

[@LarryCheungGolf]

that's great keep it going! =)

[@johnpietrolaj8917]

Excellent instruction! I like your philosophies!

[@jackbisson9226]

Larry your content is awesome! Keep doing what you are doing. This is a great channel.

[@slytown]

Really helpful. Thanks.

[@adamacaster5833]

Quite a radical theory, most instructors would encourage lag and the club in front of the body and squaring the club with the arms. Is this more a viktor hovland style swing?

[@LarryCheungGolf]

thinking whether it's a specific player's swing or not isn't the way to think about this and doesn't help in my opinion =)

[@stevencheok1]

More distance and consistency with Down hinge! It works !

[@sinaazimi7328]

Can you do a video on down hinge with a driver? Almost all of your videos are with irons. Please.

[@LarryCheungGolf]

its the same, these videos aren't driver or iron specific, I demonstrate with iron because its easier to get the changes started with an iron in hand =)

[@nickstarchuk]

Casting?

[@stephenkujan]

Not casting IMO because the left wrist is flat at impact.

[@nickstarchuk]

@@stephenkujan casting is ulnar deviation, shown here. You’re talking flexion, which can happen even if it’s casted. This amount of alpha torque is a loss of leverage of the secondary lever which is why I’m asking...

[@nickstarchuk]

@@habitualflipper5640 sure it is. Those are happening in different planes

[@John-78]

@@nickstarchuk This guy is a former long drive champ and former Nike tour player. I think he does a decent job of explaining it. I'd watch the whole video but if your lazy start watching at like 2:45 or even 4:20. He doesn't mention casting but when I cam across this video, what Larry has been preaching in his videos about down hinging made more sense to me. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKezhZiclLiio6M

[@nickstarchuk]

@@John-78 who is?