Laser sailing Is it fun Multi cam with commentary Radial sail

[@frances3254]

Is it fun!!!!!! It's the biggest fun ever !!!!! I had Laser in the 80's, best buy of my life! Go for it.!

[@JoyriderTV]

Definitely fun! What goes up must come down!

[@parsnipproductions8875]

Definitely worth a shot with the full rig. The beauty of the laser is yes racing, but also just developing the technical feel for the boat. It's so basic that you can try anything with sail shape/controls to see what sticks, and the principles you learn are great for racing in any other class, because it's ALL about adaptability to the conditions

[@JoyriderTV]

Next time out with the full rig applying all of the advice that i've been given. Thanks

[@PebblesChan]

8:38 - Thanks for showing the Laser’s self filling foot spa! Always good for soaking the feet.

[@JoyriderTV]

It's a great feature

[@SportSoulLife]

Pull the bailer out and keep the boat level (as it always should be) and it will eventually empty itself.

[@morzee94]

@@SportSoulLife eventually being the right word!

[@crosisofborg5524]

I sailed my first laser at 9 years old and now at 57 I still love them.

[@JoyriderTV]

🤩

[@richardwhite3665]

I’m turning 82 in September and still racing full rig but Radial when 30 to 40 kph winds. It is so forgiving in high winds and just plain FUN STILL👍

[@steverogers1976]

Dang. Lots of activity on the comment board for this one. Laser sailors passionate about their craft. Props to the Laser Nation. 👍

[@JoyriderTV]

I knew that i was going to get some abuse from this one - not too bad so far!

[@stopthink9000]

Fun is subjective. I personally love their easy setup and easy teardown. You can be on the water in five minutes and they're fast and exciting to sail.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes. Your concise explanation is perfect

[@joaopedromedeiros3689]

I get the argument of "not trying to sail it perfectly, but rather seeing if it's fun". However, for dingy boats the kicker (boom vang) plays a major role in the amount of phisical work you do. Thats why we, laser sailor, use the vang a lot often, it depowers the sail by flattening it (in fact it's way better to thigten the kicker in a "block to block" fashion as the other controls will only affect the depth position (downhaul) and the deepness (outhaul) of the sail as fine tuners). Correctly trimming the kicker will lead to a much more fun ride in the lasers. Apart from this, great content!!!

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks very much for the explanation. That makes it all very clear. The kicker will certainly be engaged next time out!

[@teamdas3dstudio368]

My kind of sailing! Love it since being a kid ;-)

[@JoyriderTV]

That's one for the fun camp!

[@vbassing8391]

Lazers are awesome!

[@dot7307]

I could only wish for a laser. Still stuck with my gypsy, absolutely no power on it.

[@teamdas3dstudio368]

@@dot7307 Be patient you get there eventually. Most of us have. Used old Lasers are not expensive and sometimes people even give them away. I do not have one to give away, but someone may have. Where are you based?

[@dot7307]

@@teamdas3dstudio368 I'm based in Gauteng South Africa

[@mollylarue]

"with this act which i think is called hiking out" lol

[@JoyriderTV]

Bingo!

[@xqiuvmah]

How can this be anything but fun? It's simple and easy to learn. Having to work is a plus for fun in my book. Laser sailing isn't a pleasure cruise on 50ft yacht, it's a water sport. The only other boat that is more fun (defined as simple easy to learn) is a sunfish because it is just the sail and 1 control rope. I learned to sail on sunfish and lasers. A fun game we played was "sink the ship". You sail close to another boat and your partner jumps on their boat and capsize them

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, of course it's fun, I was just looking for an interesting angle to put on the video, the majority, as you'd expect are in the fun camp.

[@xqiuvmah]

@@JoyriderTV at my sailing school, one day it was incredibly hot and there was next to no wind. Our instructors forbid is from jumping into the water and swimming around. We all had a terrible sense of balance that day, we just couldn't keep the dang things upright.

[@billtaylor2050]

You can surf in a Laser, it feels like a hundred knots but you risk a broken mast. For me it was the simplest purest form of sailing.

[@MrTyger11]

Love this video, Raced Lasers for over 10 years, and it brought back so many fantastic memories shame you didn't have the full sail up, you would of been even faster. Not sure what speeds I've reached ( excuse the pun) but definitely much faster that that. Makes me want to have another go....if someone could fix old age and a bad back lol. A great vid.

[@JoyriderTV]

Glad you enjoyed it! Next time with the full sail!

[@frances3254]

For sure! I'm 84 and these vids take me back.....great fun times!!

[@railgunval]

@@frances3254 84? Holy shit you’re old!

[@dor.332]

Dude same here.. been racing for ~5 years and it was like 8 years ago... Makes me wanna go again

[@kenjmor]

Sailed a full rig competitively in the mid 90’s for two seasons, including the winter frostbite series. What a boat! Improved my boat handling skills no end. I once sailed a summer regatta in winds gusting 30+ knots and it was insane. I’m 5’8” and was 12st at the time, and sailing it upwind was a real struggle. The big boys (semi pro’s) just powered past me upwind, but when it came to the downwind legs, I couldn’t be caught! Good memories….

[@JoyriderTV]

Great to hear! Yes, the Laser really does sort out technique!!

[@mathieugamot7335]

I'm sailing whit a laser every day and i'm jealous because this one is just beautiful 😭😂😂 Mine look so old compared to yours

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, i'm sorry to say that this Laser is only 4 weeks old - the sail is from last year.

[@charlottegodbolt5138]

Same. How crisp and white is this one. And yeah than thin main sheet looks painful. Prob fab for very light conditions, but size up for these. Bet you wouldn’t have dropped a fatter one either. Gloves are good too 😉

[@nilsmiddendorf4220]

Really love the laser! You work, you are almost in the water, you feel every wave! I sailed it last june 2019 in vassiliki and then in the summer in mauritius! Even capsizing makes fun! :-) Great, great time!

[@JoyriderTV]

Another one for the fun camp. Hopefully we'll see you again soon.

[@frances3254]

really relate to your comments, 'even capsizing', the excitement on that 'edge', just nothing like it. thanks!

[@vagabondroller]

One of the best days of my life. My first solo sail. Boy Scout Camp Wente, CA, 1987. My first solo sail and it was on a Laser. I was on that boat every afternoon for two weeks after that. It capsized very easy with an inexperienced 85lb kid on it but after about the third day I had dry capsizing down and never got dunked.

[@JoyriderTV]

Nice! The Laser is such a great boat. I have similar memories on a sailing camp many years ago. Thanks

[@ardaarpak]

I've strarted optimist sailing when ı was 6 and ı quit when ı was 12 and started to laser. Now ım 16 and still enjoying sailing:)

[@JoyriderTV]

The Laser will keep you interested for life. Great choice.

[@achka551]

Good fun you had there, Joe! Being a laser lover, as you showed in this video, I appreciate the downwind rewards following heavy upwind duty. Certainly a rather slow dinghy compared with more recent ones, though so simple to rig, easy to put on the water and a marvellous learning toy. Thanks for sharing, keep safe having fun :)

[@JoyriderTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@miya64]

i learned to sail on picos and then transitioned over to racing lasers. it is definitely a hard boat to master but once you get the hang of it, it starts to piece itself together. but they are a super fun boat to go on, in light or heavy wind. it does suck to get continuously soaked but in the end if you really enjoy it, it doesn't matter.

[@JoyriderTV]

for real, the laser has got it going on, very accessible for everyone at most levels

[@dogga3096]

Sailed laser growing up in Trinidad love it funniest thing ever miss it so much

[@JoyriderTV]

So much fun!!

[@jcjaramillomo]

I LEARNT TO SAIL ON A LASER AND I LOVED THE TIME ON IT. ESPECIALLY THE CLOSER CONNECTION YOU GET WITH THE WAVES AND THE BALANCE ON THE BOAT. PLUS YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND HOW EASY THEY ARE TO "TAKE IT THERE" (TRANSPORT) AND HOW FAST YOU ARE SAILING AFTER ARRIVAL (RIGGING TIME). HOWEVER, THEY ARE A LEG BURNER. FINALLY, I HAVE A NACRA 14SQ AND I AM NOT GOING BACK.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, agreed - so quick to get on the water, a lot easier than any cat.

[@ethenoates6004]

I had a 14sq they are a awesome boat especially with a kite

[@jcjaramillomo]

@@ethenoates6004 cuerrently i only have the main, but it definetly needs the punch of the kite for lighter winds. Have you seen a 14sq with a jib? Is it worth it?

[@ethenoates6004]

@@jcjaramillomo jibs arent worth it mate and i am a nacra messure so trust

[@drake919]

Love the video! Can tell you're a cat sailor because you're sitting so far aft! Try sitting a whole lot more forward (fore of the main sheet block, even) next time you take out a laser and see if you like it better. Great content.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for the tip. Will do that next time.

[@drake919]

Well I just talked to a more experiences Laser sailor than me, and they said you were doing fine! Sitting aft lets you plane very easily. Though they were concerned about you wrapping the mainsheet in your hand.

[@JoyriderTV]

@@drake919 thanks, that's the first positive comment that i've had regarding the technique! The wrap was because the mainsheet was so thin - like a 6 or 7mm

[@drake919]

@@JoyriderTV I have a friend who used to be a high angle rescue professional. One day he wrapped a rope around his hand the wrong way, and it left him with permanent nerve damage and ended his career. His story left an impression on me. Thinner rope is probably even more dangerous than thicker rope.

[@iomongol2449]

@@JoyriderTV Also depends on your weight. 180lb give or take ?

[@JSomerled]

It takes a good season to really get the most out of laser sailing.. It’s a great dingy..

[@JoyriderTV]

I'm looking forward to getting back out there.

[@Captain_Bartolo]

Amazing fun on this tiny boats!!! 😍

[@JoyriderTV]

They are!

[@justbecause3187]

Easy boat to sail, difficult boat to master, also affordable and quick and easy to set up. I think it's important for every sailor to sail one of these or a similar single handed boat at some point in their career, because it's all down to you with no one else to blame. You will also race in big fleets with close tactical racing, where you will learn a lot. Obviously being an Olympic class has a lot to do with their popularity and I think for most people, unless you're aiming for that top tier, it's good for them to move onto other more challenging classes after a while.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, I totally agree. If i lived in the real world where people race i'd definitely get involved.

[@xxshniperweselxx8306]

*Boat in extreme windward heel* Coach: HIKE!!!!!! Coach: HEAD UP!!!!!

[@JoyriderTV]

Will do!

[@evan3776]

He definitely shouldn’t be hiking or heading up with windward heel

[@giuseppesolidoro8030]

Yeeesss è vasyliki posso ogni anno con la mia barca a vela, il posto è meraviglioso per una vacanza in Grecia. Organizzazione velica è fantastica🎉

[@JoyriderTV]

It's probably the best place to go sailing in Europe

[@anthonyysmartt]

You need to have the corner of the sail in the very corner of the boat to where it touches the traveler. You can go faster upwind by doing so.

[@JoyriderTV]

I'll do that next time. I also got schooled on Laser hiking technique.

[@humansaremonkeys]

Dude. I was about to see some sailing and suddenly a bloody pirate appears. Argh🥰👋🏻Great vid!

[@JoyriderTV]

🤩

[@blogsfred3187]

Hiking is also off the toes, straight legged..and downwind surfing is actually the most fun

[@JoyriderTV]

Yeah, I heard about the straight leg hiking after coming in. I'll try it next time.

[@tsfullerton]

My transom ser.# ends in 78. Built 1978. Replaced sail and mast step. Still sails good.

[@JoyriderTV]

The older Lasers really go on forever!

[@kirkallen83]

Love the Dinghy videos!

[@JoyriderTV]

Made a nice change!

[@cdabbo294]

Great vid- Laser sailing is a blast! Maybe wear some gloves next time to avoid the dropped main sheet and capsize! Liked seeing the wind direction and speed on this.

[@JoyriderTV]

I never tried wearing gloves but you could be right - will try next time. Thanks

[@pigfigjig]

Legendary.. Good start for the big fellas

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks@!

[@rahmannoodles6451]

Basicly when your going upwind in moderate to heavy winds you want your controls on so take the slack out of the vang and pull on the outhaul (if u want less heel then pull on cuno) and then let them all of but not tooooo much when you go downwind. Nice video.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for the tips!

[@rahmannoodles6451]

@@JoyriderTV no worries, ive been watching your channel for a while and im thinking about coming over when covid isnt a thing (not in the near future i know....) But it looks like a great place to sail!

[@nunomascarenhasribeiro]

I missed your videos. Good to see you again 👍

[@JoyriderTV]

Welcome back!

[@brookewright1384]

As a laser sailer it is really fun but you got to be aggressive and be ready to work hard to make it go fast.

[@JoyriderTV]

My inner lazy cat sailor was shining through!

[@johnnydeutschemark3620]

Rare, sunny day in Great Britain.

[@JoyriderTV]

A pretty normal sunny day in Greece

[@spetsnatzlegion3366]

I’ve done limited dinghy sailing (don’t live near the coast or a sailing lake so a good time is rare) but of the few boats I’ve sailed the laser was my favourite. Sleek, smooth and fast.

[@JoyriderTV]

A great choice for almost everyone!

[@nerd1000ify]

Something to watch out for in the Laser is the infamous 'death roll' on runs or excessively broad reaches, you've really got to be careful about how you trim the sail and indeed the boat to avoid it in heavy weather. Too much vang or not enough mainsheet on a run is a recipe for capsizing. It's sometimes also helpful to deliberately lean the boat over to windward to put the CoE of the sail closer to the middle of the boat.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for the tips!

[@nerd1000ify]

@@JoyriderTV I've learnt a lot about cat handling from your channel so I might as well pass on what little knowledge I (as arguably the worst competitive laser radial sailor in Australia haha) can. My partner and I have recently bought a Caper Cat 14 which I'd love to send some photos and video of for the 'show us your cat' segment if you're keen... As soon as we get out of COVID quarantine.

[@JoyriderTV]

@@nerd1000ify Definitely keen to see your Caper Cat - it'll be the first one featured!

[@GGibert]

Love the Laser...I abandoned the standard rig, because of my age...Need good abdominals....

[@JoyriderTV]

For sure - in heavy wind it's like a wet gym!

[@blueshaderecords]

Hey I sail Lasers on a lake. I agree they are a lot of work and they can go fast but not really. Still in my opinion they are really fun to sail

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, overall the general opinion has to be yes, they are great fun!

[@nicholasstathos1387]

I own both an H16 and a Laser (Full Rig) and the Laser is actually more dramatic in high wind.

[@JoyriderTV]

So much water in the face!

[@nicholasstathos1387]

@@JoyriderTV Took out my laser today a few hours ago and think I need to get a GPS and get on the speed stick...went quickly enough to get a rooster-tail in my wake.

[@johnrichards5053]

I was in Vassiliki sailing lasers 2 weeks ago. I have to say that it’s not good for sailing - the wind is very unpredictable as the bay is surrounded by mountains. There are doldrums everywhere and the wind just switches around without warning. I, and several others, got hit with the boom many times. It’s unavoidable. I ended up with a detached retina 😢. I do have an RYA day skipper sailing, so I’m no a noob. I, in retrospect, would recommend getting out past the bay and influence of the mountains if your sailing a dinghy.

[@johnrichards5053]

I’m guessing it was the Wildwind resort. That’s were I was and I recognise the terrain and they have loads of lasers.

[@JoyriderTV]

I'm so sorry that you didn't have good conditions while you were here. I sailed in Vassiliki at that time and i would definitely agree - the wind was awful. Unpredictable, massive shifts and gusts out of nowhere. Not that it helps, but those conditions are pretty rare during the sailing season here and it is gerenally pretty constant with around 8knots onshore in the mornings and between 15 and 25 knots in the afternoons.

[@CharlesKreuzkamp]

add a little bit of vang on the downwind next time, it'll improve your stability a lot which will convert to speed, as long as its not too much!

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks very much, that's very helpful.

[@dirkjansen3440]

Its the best , diving into waves and speeding past big yachts 😂 Only sailing a Flying Dutchman comes close

[@JoyriderTV]

Ha, Yes! Going past a 1m$ yacht on a Laser is priceless

[@DeadTalkLive]

Great clip ♥! As a current KZbinr, I am contantly searching for new ideas! Nice Job!

[@Lees920]

Perhaps a little pumping and ooching will pop you up on plane quicker and give you more speed. :-) I bought a laser when I turned 30 so I could keep in shape. Between that and 400 situps a day I could hike all day if I had to. But alas...time takes its toll and at 70 years of age, I'm just looking at my Laser in the back yard and wondering what happened to keeping in shape. LOL

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, a bit more effort next time. The Laser certainly is a great multi gym!

[@NickScully-wn3dx]

Try an Aero, it will go even faster off the wind!

[@JoyriderTV]

Great shout! I will do!!

[@mnelson56]

What's really wild is heavy wind and planing Laser so hard that the rudder looses its effect.

[@JoyriderTV]

I'll have to try that

[@charlottegodbolt5138]

Way to become a very good swimmer 🤣

[@charlottegodbolt5138]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYfWqWifa8d6b5o

[@charlottegodbolt5138]

Some high wind action in that link… and from the laser whisperer himself: “the rudder doesn’t steer the boat” 😁

[@mnelson56]

@@charlottegodbolt5138 great video...explains a lot. Thank you!

[@clavapa1_old]

Every laser sailor watching this: . Jokes apart, there's quite a lot you should learn about laser sailing...

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, i've been getting quite a lot of advice from the Laser sailing community.

[@clavapa1_old]

@@JoyriderTV There's a decent tacking tutorial on my channel, why not give it a look? It's called "LASER - Roll Tack (EN)"

[@Aeroworks540]

what happened to the foiling laser?

[@JoyriderTV]

Still got it - I just wanted to look at the regular boat first

[@cmyties9642]

I have a question, have you ever heard of a splash? It’s somewhat similar to a lazer. I’m not sure if it’s only a boat sold in the Netherlands but can you tell me if you can find one in some other country’s V

[@niekhaan7971]

It is sold a lot in the Netherlands but The laser radial is equal to The splash.

[@JoyriderTV]

I never saw one

[@cmyties9642]

Joseph Bennett owh okay it’s a fun and fast boat

[@cmyties9642]

niek haan ja precies

[@jellevanheeren392]

It is made in Friesland (Heeg), top boat

[@andrewmurray4863]

When righting the boat, you can actually climb right on to the daggerboard and then back in to the boat as it rights- saves you a bit of time

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for the tip!

[@nerd1000ify]

I once stepped over the side onto the daggerboard as the boat went over for near instant righting (I fell off when it came back up though)

[@adamatch9624]

I got black magic laser one but on the first time sailing it broke, the lads at the yacht club figured out that it has been repaired and the repair was bad. Luckily I am able to return it to the seller so time to hunt for another one,

[@JoyriderTV]

there's a lesson there somewhere - good that you could return it.

[@TSAlessi]

Tie the end of the main sheet to the eyelet which the hiking strap connects to at the stern. This was it’ll never get tangled 🙂

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for the tip, i'll try that. Cheers

[@jakewillssailing]

In this sort of wind, your kicker needs to be maxed out to give point and to depower the sail

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for the tip - tight kicker next time!

[@tilleytristan]

@@JoyriderTV what's a kicker? boom vang?

[@blogsfred3187]

T Mart yes, American it’s vang, uk etc kicker

[@JamesFosterSailing]

@@tilleytristan yep

[@The_Blood_Orange]

I want to learn to sail, looking to get something like this to learn. The goal is to have a small sail boat and sail down the east coast of the USA.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, the Laser is a great choice, loads of them about, you should be able to pick one up for not too much $$ very simple, light to handle on the beach and you can put it on the roof of your car fro transport.

[@The_Blood_Orange]

Thank you for the reply sir.

[@AJ-sw8pm]

when you see on the speed tracker that it suddenly goes to 0 and you know he's capsized and youre just waiting for it (even though I've watched this about a 1000 times)

[@JoyriderTV]

Ha! Nice one

[@SavageSailor150]

Hay man I was wondering if it was worth getting a laser or a 29er and was hoping for your opinion 🤔💭

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, Laser if you're sailing solo, yes 29er if you're under 18, sailing with a crew and wanting to get into some high level racing

[@mr.h3377]

Send it in a 29 er if you like trapeze get a laser if you need something you can solo or transport easily (laser is very roof-able)

[@sharonbraselton4302]

buyy j88 sokar ékrrfç 29 5 çabin crusér

[@dannybullar5925]

A camera technique a lot of monohul users have is putting the gopro on end of boom so you don't have to adjust

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, it would appear that i chose the wrong end!

[@drake919]

True! Its helpful because it always points the camera toward the cockpit, regardless of your point of sail.

[@sdcofer52]

You could use a primer on those lines. Check out Michael Blackburn crossing the Bass Strait if you want to see some Laser reaching.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for that.

[@dirkrooman9191]

Yeah Joe . Everybody knows a Laser is fun!😁

[@JoyriderTV]

I just thought i'd go and check.

[@ColemakDH]

I know this comment is really late but I'm just curious if you could explain in detail some of the adjustments you do like lifting your centerboard up, loosening the outhaul (although you did kind of explain that already) etc, I've never really tried adjusting anything like that while sailing so if you could give brief explanations on those sorts of things i would appreciate it

[@JoyriderTV]

I will talk about these things on Friday in my next live Q+A - 1730 greek time - generally cat sailing but all of the principles on the laser are similar to the catamaran.

[@seanricketts941]

I sail a boat similar to the Laser, but it has a stayed rig and an 8 square metre, fully battened mylar sail.

[@JoyriderTV]

That thing must really fly!

[@johnreid2851]

Impulse? Those are fun

[@seanricketts941]

@@johnreid2851 no. Supernova dinghy, found in the UK

[@milky9025]

Can you make more foiling videos they were very entertaining

[@JoyriderTV]

I certainly will do as soon as I've got a boat unpacked

[@SalvatoreMontalto]

Il vero LASER ha la vela STANDARD, il radial e per i villaggi turistici e per la barbie.

[@JoyriderTV]

Ha! Yes!!! Great point!!!

[@timseytiger9280]

Lack of cleats on the main sheet, is the biggest shock I had when switching from several years on cats.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, it certainly takes some adjustment.

[@scottb9937]

4:30 "give it the B's on a broad reach". Not sure what he said but I know I totally agree!

[@louis5865]

He said "give it the beans" which is very brittish for just giving it everything :)

[@scottb9937]

@@louis5865 ty!

[@JoyriderTV]

Yep, that was the beans!

[@oliverirvine2693]

kicker most important control in that wind

[@JoyriderTV]

I will pay more attention to it.

[@homefront3162]

ANSWER = YES

[@gustavosimes1965]

On the downwinds you need to release the vang

[@martimfernandes9575]

You are so Smart men

[@JoyriderTV]

Bingo - will do

[@willmihalic-wood1867]

Need more vang on the upwind rip it as hard as you can on the up wind

[@JoyriderTV]

I'll pull it as hard as i can and then a bit more next time!

[@kuttuji4684]

Did you Try for Olympics in Sailing??

[@JoyriderTV]

unfortunately not.

[@jackhau1628]

Can you tell what mount were you using under the boom?

[@JoyriderTV]

It's a home made mount made by glueing 3 clips together - that were holding the spars together - I'll show you in tomorrow's Q+A

[@ichewtoast111]

Lasers look so fun to race in a group! also either my computer sounds like you're in a tunnel or you might want to look into your audio.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, I think that the sound did go a bit strange for this one - maybe a drop of water over the mic. Cheers

[@ichewtoast111]

Joseph Bennett id recommend a windscreen or the windslayer cover for the GoPro, worse case it helps cut out wind noise!

[@JoyriderTV]

@@ichewtoast111 yeah, i've been using one for all of my dry filming, not sure how it would be once it'd been under water.

[@Battlehammer333]

Sounds like it‘s just the sound waves echoing through the hull and the mast.

[@MrOffordef]

Upwind! work Downwind! Menace Halfway? Heaven Think you go fast? Race Laser for life Sailing for eternity

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, racing the Laser looks like one of the most difficult classes out there!

[@catfish9865]

9:00 “let’s pull the dagger board up” *capsized 10 seconds later*

[@Alex-xi8ep]

ahahahahahahahahah epic

[@JoyriderTV]

That's the way that I roll!

[@JoyriderTV]

🤩

[@evan1188]

Going upwind you must really have the right setup or you wont have fun at all, really have to use a hell of alot of cunningham and kicker while the outhaul is quite flexible on what you can do.

[@JoyriderTV]

Ok thanks, I'm getting a masterclass in upwind Laser sailing through youtube comments!

[@evan1188]

Joseph Bennett haha its quite good isnt it, i heard you say we abuse our sails but in reality the cloth in the sail is quite stretchy and isnt a very hard material so you can get away with over sheeting controls and itll spring back

[@JoyriderTV]

@@evan1188 good to know. I'll wang more on next time.

[@SergioMiletto8]

For the upwind in this condition you want the kicker pulled until the two blocks on the boom and on the traveler touch, the cunningham also must be pulled as hell , it moves forward the belly of the sail and so sail is more efficient and the tendency of the boat of heading up is reduced finally, outhaul must be regulated based on the conditions of the waves by easing it a bit in high wave conditions and pulling it on flatter seas, upwind in this case in general must be very tighten varing it on the basis of what i wrote

[@derPaul76]

That looks like a lot of fun

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, as much fun as you can have with 1 person 1 hull 1 sail

[@tmoon5691]

Thanks for video. So? Was it more fun than zest? You seem to enjoy more when sailing zest. I used to sail zest and recently topper topaz which is way below in terms of fun i think

[@JoyriderTV]

Both were fun but in different ways.

[@blairdodson6743]

But if you were racing in this wind you pull the vang

[@JoyriderTV]

I'm on it, thanks.

[@Barzeto]

Can someone explain to me what is "the vang"?

[@RockinOn217]

“Boom vang”, also called the “kicker”. It pulls the boom down, which pulls on the leech of the sail. A Laser sailboat likes a lot of vang when going upwind to get speed.

[@SportSoulLife]

Indeed. When you sheet out the boom should only move sideways, not up at all. Sheet it in completely (block to block) pull out all slack in the kicker and some 3 cm more. Remember to release the kicker before going downwind or you will be buying a new mast (been there done that) 😉

[@Eliosempreteso]

Hi, thanks for this great piece of video! May I ask how you get the bottom right direction and instant speed on the videos? Thx

[@JoyriderTV]

It was with the gopro quik app, now i'm using telemetry overlay

[@AJ-sw8pm]

Going downwind, you left the downhaul on which seriously de-powered the sail, all you need downwind is a bit of kicker to keep the leach, next try beam reaches, fastest point of sail and doesn't require upwind

[@JoyriderTV]

Now, that's a great tip. I'll try that

[@AJ-sw8pm]

@@JoyriderTV no problem mate

[@SarahJoyCreations]

Which did you prefer? Zest or laser? Or have you tried any other monohulls?

[@JoyriderTV]

I think they were pretty close in terms of what was more fun. If i was going to have one for myself to sail solo - the Laser would be the one so that I could race. If i was going to look at the best option for sailing with kids, more fun sailing than racing the Zest would win. I've tried quite a few different monos over the years.

[@henrycollins9753]

Pleas sail an Aero, it is so much better on a fast downwind or reach

[@JoyriderTV]

will do, coming up.

[@robertbeach71]

Or upwind. I race mixed fleet with lasers in a 7 rig and they are only ever close when it's super light.

[@gregor5252]

Hi there! Could you please tell me whats the equipment you used for speed and wind direction? Thanks! 🤘

[@JoyriderTV]

Check out the next Live Q+A and i'll go through it.

[@haehongjung5290]

Let me know what GPS did you use for speed for measuring the speed? please

[@JoyriderTV]

I use a Locosys GW60 on the wrist and Telemetry overlay to put the data on the video

[@channelbox852]

Laser is good but windsurf is 🥇

[@JoyriderTV]

It's all god, just depends on how much wind!

[@VinderGroup3]

Looks quite quick upwind to me especially for a mono. Hard work haha back on your gin palace then 😉😁

[@JoyriderTV]

Yep, more gin for me!

[@dimon3972]

Передаю привет из России)

[@shortfilmssailingandstuff183]

How do you record your speed just curious and want to my self?

[@JoyriderTV]

On the go-pro all models since the 5 have in built GPS

[@niekhaan7971]

Ofcourse it is a fun boat. I sail both laser standard and hobie 16. I prefer cat tho

[@JoyriderTV]

A lot of fun, m maybe i was being a bit harsh

[@gustavosimes1965]

If you pull the vang like there is no tomorrow on the upwinds it's a lot easier to control the boat and the sheet

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, I've been hearing a lot of vang comments, I'll be pulling that bad boy next time.

[@charlottegodbolt5138]

Where is this? (I’m not catching it at the start). Looks like a fun spot! I wanna come play.

[@JoyriderTV]

The is at wildwind.co.uk Vassiliki, Lefkas, Greece

[@JoyriderTV]

You should come. It's so good for sailing.

[@MrTincify]

What's the idea with pulling center board up and down? So you can lean her more?

[@JoyriderTV]

On the race - across the wind you don't need as much lateral resistance so too much daggerboard just causes drag.

[@MrTincify]

@@JoyriderTV aaaa smart! I like it, thanks for the answer

[@JustinBolton]

What did you use for telemetry data overlayed on the video? Love the videos keep them coming!

[@JoyriderTV]

That was using gopro quik which used to work very well. It now only works for the Gopro Hero 5, the later cameras are not supported. So now i use Telemetry Overlay: Here's my process - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZy2hpSji6yCiZI

[@Plummy_renegade]

The beating at the start was very good, I would just have a bit more kicker on and have the toe straps closer to my toes👍

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks, that's the most positive feedback that I've had.

[@MrStokstad]

What keeps your Laser from going turtle at anchor? Any buoyancy at the mast top?

[@JoyriderTV]

Because the boats are pointing into the wind they don't need any buoyancy - the weight of the hull and daggerboard is enough.

[@MrStokstad]

@@JoyriderTV No leaks om the top mast then.

[@andys4971]

After I just moved up from my sunfish, it was either a racey lazer or a comfy daysailer. I chose the ladder and am not dissapointed but this does look pretty fun

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, it certainly is a lot of fun!

[@samnuelallen6205]

Where is this

[@JoyriderTV]

This is Wildwind on the Greek island of Lefkas. We've got a fleet of 10 x 2020 Lasers.