Fiber Laser Ring Rotary Guide | Lightburn AND Ezcad

In today's episode I'm going to be showing you how to engrave rings with your fiber laser rotary! The process is dead simple. DON'T SKIP sections for Ezcad if you have Lightburn and vice versa. The entire video is packed with relevant information for ALL users. Hope this helps you get your rotary set up! Have fun marking the inside of rings, outside of rings and doing complete 360 wraps and don't forget to smash that like button!
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0:00 - Intro
1:02 - IMPORTANT Overview
2:27 - Physical Rotary Setup
4:14 Lightburn OD Setup
8:11 Lightburn OD Mark
8:50 - Lightburn ID Setup
11:04 - Lightburn ID Mark
11:38 - Lightburn Wrap Setup
14:41 - Lightburn Wrap Mark
15:15 - Ezcad 2 OD Setup
19:36 - Ezcad 2 OD Mark
20:12 - Ezcad 2 Wrap Setup
23:02 - Ezcad 2 Wrap Mark
24:33 - Outro - Supporting the Channel
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[@reinaldogulli3235]

Well done!! Just bought mine laser. I’ll keep watching yours videos.

[@LaserEverything]

Congratulations! Thanks for watching!

[@kylegustaveson5345]

many rings, much wow :D good work Alex! I gotta dive into rotary now with this info

[@LaserEverything]

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[@dr4yc05]

This video was super helpful!

[@LaserEverything]

Glad you think so!

[@acildhyo9802]

from here I learn..thank you sis

[@LaserEverything]

Thanks for stopping by!

[@moranmariusvictor475]

Good tutorial, thanks!

[@LaserEverything]

Thanks for watching!

[@lasermark596]

Just love it ❤️

[@LaserEverything]

Thank you! ❤️

[@HybridEngraver]

Thanks so much for this in depth video! Really looking forward to trying it out once I get back to my lasers. Quick question: will this work for deep engrave on ring? Like can I removed a lot of material without there being ugly lines in the bottum? Running 120w JPT

[@Bianchi77]

Keep it up, thanks :)

[@LaserEverything]

Thanks, will do!

[@HectorTeutli]

Thanks, clear some issues.

[@LaserEverything]

Great! Good to hear!

[@bluegoldgr]

Hi Alex I couldn't find the link at the bottom for the rotary that had a quick release, you were using in the video.

[@maryannmagnelli6936]

Hi, do you mind sharing your “anneal” settings that you used here? Thanks for the great video! 😊

[@midnightjo1327]

Such a good video! I am trying to find the pattern wrap tutorial, did you end up making that?

[@Laserengraving_]

Hi Alex, great video super helpful, could you consider making another video where you equally space names around a ring?

[@LaserEverything]

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll add it to our backlog list. It's quite long so if you don't see it right away that's why but it's certainly doable.

[@byronlorenzo7382]

Nice video bro

[@LaserEverything]

Thanks for watching!

[@jezzalinko]

good video this just helped me setup my first ring engraving although im wondering if you have a video on how to work out the total length you can engrave before over lapping, probably wouldnt be hard but would be handy for newbies if there was an easy way to know how long the text/image can be or maybe with a video about making an ongoing pattern say a flame or tribal pattern how to join it and size it without having overlaps if that makes sense but thanks heaps this has been helpful although i left all the settings alone in the parameter folder for pulses etc as my switches arent visible outside of the box to work it out and it worked, now to try something bigger and try to get a cleaner black as your settings just left a ghost image no colour if that makes sense

[@LUXPLEASURE]

Thanks for all the wonderful information. I have a question: if I wanted to engrave only part of a very curved bracelet (not closed with a ring), what parameters should I use? How do I indicate the engraving area with Ezcad?

[@matinigul001]

Hi Alex. Where can I find the same rotary motor head. I got the one that I must turn with a key, its not very comfortable. Mati

[@cindygrandon5232]

Thoughts on the thunder fiber laser? Just joined this channel! So much good information. We have a thunder 51 at the moment wanting to add.

[@LaserEverything]

VERY expensive for what you get, but likely very good none the less if you like Thunder as a company it might be worth it to you.

[@Luis-lw1lw]

Hello, is there any way to engrave these types of designs on oval bracelets?

[@danielkung5870]

Great 👍👍👍

[@LaserEverything]

Thank you 👍

[@flm_93]

Would we need to do an anneal to prevent rust?

[@Hanane30]

Hi , Thank you for a vidéo. I have a laser mr carve M1 Pro l wanted to engrave jewelry the text in black but I always have it in white on the stainless steel jewelry can you help me please ? Thank you

[@guindonmike]

Would love to know where you got that Jewelry Chuck Alex??? Love the easy twist functionality...

[@LaserEverything]

This specific one came packaged with the EM-Smart 2R

[@Luis-lw1lw]

Two inquiries: When you export the Illustrator file do you do it in version 3 or which one do you use. And the second is when I am engraving and the ring is rotating there are moments where it loses focus and does not engravef correctly. How could I solve it? At the moment I'm using rotarytextmark and engraving the vectors in parts. Excellent video!!!

[@LaserEverything]

I use the latest copy of AI from the Adobe Creative Cloud Suite and we save our Illustrator projects as AI Version 8 If it's randomly going out of focus while rotating it's probably because the ring isn't a perfect circle. I would get a larger lens. The larger the lens the deeper your depth of field will be which means a greater depth will be in focus which should help with that kind of problem. The lens doesn't need to be massive, one step up in lens size should solve the issue, for example if you're on a 110 try a 150

[@mpmccurry]

can you laser engrave the outside curve (edge) of a coin?

[@tomjos3633]

Hi Alex. We are from India. It was nice watching your video and learning so much about Laser marking. We are struggling to find out how to draw a 360 degree line around the outer dia of a ring using Rotary. You taught the same using Lightburn but we want to know using Ezcad. If you can help. Thanks.

[@LaserEverything]

The process is the same in EZcad! If you need more help, you can join our Discord or Facebook community.

[@SoleBin]

why did we need to take the inner, outer diameter and height of the ring?? where did we use them in ezcad..i think i missed a part..someone help please

[@altar7885]

Why is the engraving black? Is it possible to have something that looks more like a mechanical engraving?

[@billmusik9794]

Which laser engraver are you using?

[@aishamysticjeweler5544]

Greetings, do you have any video like this but with ezcad 2 ?

[@LaserEverything]

Not ring specific but might help you get most of the way there, things like positioning, centering are all the same regardless of program. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4iVYqyPbsiteLM

[@bega2957]

Hello, will you make a video how to make an artwork for complete ring wrap?

[@Dithermaster]

For ring ID engraving, instead of tilting the rotary, wouldn't it be better to move it so you are using an angled beam at the side of the work area (instead of straight down and center)? That way it's in focus for the entire width of the ring.

[@LaserEverything]

The further you move out from the center of an F-Theta lens the further out of focus two points on the same vertical plane are. There's no harm in doing it that way but if there is a benefit it's negligable. Unless you're using the smallest of lenses like a 70mm I don't think it's going to make much of a difference. Even the 110 typically has the depth of field to cover the very narrow focus differential between the top and bottom of the ring surface.

[@fernandoterrazas577]

Hi, my wife does jewelry on copper, silver and gold; which laser you recommend to buy so she can engrave those materials? (mostly rings). Thanks.

[@LaserEverything]

For copper something like the 50w JPT linked in the description is really what you want. Silver and gold are both pretty easy to mark with just about any fiber.

[@armanavvali7449]

Can you please tell me when I can buy a chuck or jaw for holding ring for my k11-80 rotary? Thank you

[@LaserEverything]

Hey Arman, I'm not aware of a conversion or kit for doing ring holding on a standard chuck rotary that has normal jaws. You might be able to drill / tap holes and place pins in to get the same affect, but it might be far easier and less destructive to have a ring rotary for that task and other small jewelry and objects that are just really hard with normal jaws. We have one linked on the buying guide in the description :)

[@GEMSTARK-ly5qb]

Very good video. But i have an issue when i engrave the phrases inside the rings the engraving goes on a straight line and do not follow the curve of the ring. It looks like a diagonal engraving.

[@josuefondeur1507]

Great vid! Hoping you can answer this question: Will this laser work for tungsten carbide rings? Jewelry business owner wanting to offer engraving & 99% of our rings are tungsten. If not what machine similar to this one would you recommend for starters? Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

[@LaserEverything]

Yeah absolutely. We actually used an EM-Smart for this video and it's a nice little machine. I don't usually recommend the MAX sources for beginners because they could be less than reliable but MAX has been doing better lately. Here's our review on the unit if it's something you want to look at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6Obp5yVqqiWnbs

[@josuefondeur1507]

Thanks so much for your response! Will watch that video. So you think the em smart is strong enough for tungsten? Tried regular diode on tungsten ring and it did nothing 😅 read that it has to be fiber or co2, so looking for an inexpensive fiber laser with rotary

[@ninetwofive9621]

Does the software from ezcad or lightburn work on any laser engraver? I am currently looking at the Mr.Carve from daja because they provide the rotary tool with it. Or which laser engraver with rotary tool would you recommend for engraving solid silver rings?

[@tongLu-xx3ef]

Marker rings are of course jewelry swivels, bracelets or rings are adjustable regardless of size

[@yuno2618]

Thank you for your very helpful video. I have a problem. The rotary marking of the photograph cannot be done at the position specified by EZCAD. I am using EZCAD (2.14.11). I would like to mark a photo When trying to do rotary marking with splitmark2, Cannot mark at the specified position. Actually, it is always marked at the center position (X = 0, Y = 0). I tried the photos with BMP, JPG, and PNG, but all the results were the same. I was able to mark at the specified position by marking on a flat surface without using a rotary. By the way, in the vector, it is possible to mark at the specified position on both the rotary and the plane of splitmark2. I'm sorry for my poor English. I would be grateful if you could tell me if you knew the solution.

[@LaserEverything]

Ezcad does not support raster images in rotary mode, but lightburn will when it is released June 30th so keep an eye out for that. We have some episodes about it on the channel.

[@yuno2618]

@@LaserEverything Thank you for your prompt reply. I consider LIGHTBURN. I look forward to various videos in the future.

[@jurispurmalis5281]

Hi. Where I can purchase this rotary chuck? I have terrible one. It makes a lot of errors.

[@LaserEverything]

Unfortunately this one is the one that came with the EM-Smart but there are some good ones made by a company called Mactron, we have links to their shop down in the description I'd check those out as I've had good luck with them.

[@Frugleclock]

What machines are used here? Can’t find any links! 😊

[@albia2007]

Where did you get you rotary chuck attachments that holds the rings?

[@LaserEverything]

This particular one came with the EM-Smart but they're widely available on Amazon and AliExpress and all virtually identical.

[@albia2007]

@@LaserEverything thank you.

[@Toxickaos7]

What laser would you recommend for engraving gold and silver?

[@LaserEverything]

A standard 30/50w fiber laser would be sufficient. Check out our recommendations over at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide

[@igetcha69]

Hi mate, my laser uses EZCAD2 but is it now possible to use Lightburn instead without making any hardware changes?

[@LaserEverything]

Not yet, we're still waiting on the retail release of Lightburn, should be in the next 90 days or so. When it's released you won't have to do any hardware swapping.

[@igetcha69]

@@LaserEverything Excellent! I will look forward to it! Cheers for the info :)

[@adnew1149]

Hello, I'm your subscriber. Please understand that I am not good at English because I am a foreigner. If you imprint the text a little bit deep on stainless steel, the imprinted part is very rough. Is there a good way to do this?

[@LaserEverything]

Less power, more passes over more time will result in a deep engraving that is not so rough.

[@adnew1149]

@@LaserEverything Thank you very much for your answer. If you have time, I think it would be a great help for beginners like me if you could make a video that doesn't make the imprinted part rough. I'll watch your videos more often

[@LaserEverything]

I will add it to my list

[@estebanmillaa7147]

could you recommend a starting laser for engravinga jewelry??? please

[@LaserEverything]

If you will be doing mostly basic surface marking, either flat or on rotary, you could totally start with a 20 or 30w unit. If you're doing very hard material or may need to do more depth on those harder to mark materials, moving up to a 50w might be helpful or to help speed things up. We have model recommendations on our buyers guide if you'd like to check those out. Some may be affiliate links if you'd like to support the channel, projects, and our team, or you can just look and skip the links if you're not into that, no worries :)

[@mariettetedem2713]

So lightburn for galvo is already available? Where can i get it

[@LaserEverything]

We're in the private beta, should be released by the end of June if all goes to plan.

[@suboor8211]

Helpful video But I have one problem i tried this technique but my ring is only being wrapped on 1 side only but it rotates fully can u plz correct me

[@LaserEverything]

We can't really get into it in the KZbin comments as it's not the best place for more intensive support threads but we do have a few options where you can get help. Either check out Discord Server or Facebook group - links in the description - or you can check out our new forum over at www.lasereverything.net/forum and I'm sure we can get you pointed in the right direction.

[@pintout]

Hi. Love the content, I’ve got a question, if I have the option to get a mopa laser would I be better of or should I stick with a standard laser? What are your thoughts on that.

[@LaserEverything]

Unless you have a specific use case for MOPA or need a laser higher than 50w then I would say there's nothing wrong with the standard machines. They'll work great for 99% of people.

[@maqboolbhatti2789]

This you can tell in ezard card shortcode software that how are you working please help me

[@LaserEverything]

Providing support via KZbin comments is super difficult for more complicated issues but I would say definitely join either the Discord server or Facebook group and you'll get help from me or others super fast. There's links to both in the description! Be sure to include screenshots if you can so we can see what's going on.

[@urupana8697]

well done, upload the video of patterns in illustrator please!!!!

[@hammeredgem.j.c.9030]

I was curious what is the reason to delete your frame before you burn? I know in light burn there's an option to have no input on each layer. Just wondering if there was legitimate reason remove it completely. Awesome video by the way 🙂. Thank you.

[@LaserEverything]

Just habitual I suppose. I'm a triple checker lol. Could easily use a lightburn tool layer and frame without removing anything and it would work just fine.

[@hammeredgem.j.c.9030]

@@LaserEverything sometimes I will forget to turn off the input and burn in the frame. ☺️ Methodical steps are important. Lol. Thank you for the videos they have really help me understand things. As a result of watching them I purchased a 60w MOPA FIBER laser. I haven't opened it up yet. I want to make a great environment for it before I do. Currently I am running a 60w 1630 Boss Laser. I love it. But now I want to get into engraving metals, reliefs, and metal stamps for manufacturing. I hope the fiber can do the job. I was wondering I would like to have a cage around the fiber like the boss has with darkened plexiglass. It helps with fume control as well. You wouldn't happen to know where to find something like that?

[@whiteb68]

How do I get lightburn for my fiber? I use it on my other lasers but didn’t know it worked with fiber lasers as well.

[@LaserEverything]

Due to be released in the next month or so here, keep an eye on the channel for updates - we're in the beta.

[@whiteb68]

Ah ok, awesome!

[@hammeredgem.j.c.9030]

So the height of the object is the width on the light burn when viewing it on the screen.

[@LaserEverything]

Yes, when your object is oriented on the rotary sideways as mine is.

[@supext]

Hi. Which rotary chuck do you use?

[@tongLu-xx3ef]

jewelry rotary

[@JimFosterVO]

Good settings for 14K gold?

[@hallyjaura]

Hello sir,i am work on gold jewellery with fiber laser...i have some questions to you that how we get gold dust lose?

[@LaserEverything]

Check out one of the filtered fume extractors we have linked in our buying guide, some people use these to filter and recycle gold.

[@MickyMouseLimited]

How do you protect your eyes from the laser? Do you have a door that you close?

[@LaserEverything]

We wear very high end goggles from NoIR.com

[@mpmccurry]

Can you laser engrave a coins outside edge on a type of rotary tool if possible?

[@LaserEverything]

Theoretically sure, but I haven't tried it so don't have any tips on how I'd set that up, but sure I don't see why not.

[@mpmccurry]

thanks

[@ambientsoda106]

Can you change how deeply the machine engraved..

[@panaitejitianuionut6081]

Hi, do you know why my laser engraves diferent tipe of letters than what I wrote in Lightburn? This is happwning only when I use the rotary tool.

[@LaserEverything]

I'm not sure, we'd need more info and maybe screenshots/pictures. It would be best to join one of our communities (linked in our descriptions) and make a post in the threads so the support community can have a look and offer some feedback and troubleshoot.

[@qwestt1304]

What metal is this?Nice job

[@LaserEverything]

They call it stainless steel on the amazon listing but it's clearly some kind of mixed alloy lol, not entriely sure to be honest. Maybe some kind of plated zinc.

[@cesarrojas6906]

What’s the best laser for a starter ring engraving business?

[@LaserEverything]

Check out our review of the EM-Smart: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6Obp5yVqqiWnbs

[@cesarrojas6906]

@@LaserEverything Thanks, we are working with stainless steel rings and engraving detailed black icons. What would be your best recommendation other than the EM-Smart?

[@IntelliTrance]

Was a 60 watt fiber laser used in this tutorial?

[@LaserEverything]

No this was done with the 25w EM-Smart 2R

[@haithamshetaya2821]

Whats the model of the machine please

[@CrissJ2208]

where can i get ligthburn

[@LaserEverything]

Hasn't been released yet, we're expecting it by the end of June.

[@iZapThings]

No EZCad3? The menus are not the same as EZCad2, making it hard to follow along.

[@LaserEverything]

Separate Ezcad 3 tutorial will follow this one soon.

[@yantschek4989]

Can you engrave inside the ring?

[@LaserEverything]

Yes, we actually do that in this video :)

[@yantschek4989]

@@LaserEverything i actually saw it. Thank you

[@AM-dz4jb]

What about fiber laser 50 w

[@LaserEverything]

Same deal, slightly lower power for the 50w for a similar mark. This video covers more the process than the settings.

[@arasf.g.9440]

How can I get this laser..?

[@LaserEverything]

Check out our buying guide on lasereverything.net

[@nephilimninjaofnibiru2907]

What lens 70?

[@LaserEverything]

This video was done on the EM-Smart Basic 2R which I believe comes with a 110 standard but they're proprietary lenses and much smaller than typical so the beam may have different properties here than on your average 110. That said I think I just used my stock 30w settings (it's a 25w laser) from other machines I own and they worked fine.

[@nephilimninjaofnibiru2907]

@@LaserEverything Wow thanks great Amazing detail for 110trying to determine Lens.....I decided to spend more money and by more than one. 😆 I've been enjoying the podcast thanks.

[@LaserEverything]

You're welcome. I saw you're considering the Mactron 10/10 good choice.

[@nephilimninjaofnibiru2907]

@@LaserEverything So I got a question for you. I'm assuming a smaller lens does the following smaller work space but more detail. Faster metal removal within that area. But does that added removal speed heat up the part more or less? One more thing....Do you change the color of stainless through this type of heating? I saw they had a different laser for coloring.

[@nephilimninjaofnibiru2907]

@@LaserEverything I just realized that you guys sell courses. That's the answer. I'll contact you guys when I'm set up. Thanks again.

[@hrtradeint]

Need machine

[@LaserEverything]

Check out the Buying Guide link in the description!