Michigan overwhelmingly passed Prop 1 to end Gerrymandering. Betsy DeVos spent several million dollars of her own cash to fight the proposal. It was a win win. Her effort failed and it cost her a buttload of cash.
@daltongarrett33934 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately she’s still worth over $2 billion, so it didn’t hurt her all that much
@daltongarrett33934 жыл бұрын
Side note, if you have more digits in your net worth than someone can be reasonably bothered to type out in a KZbin comment, maybe you should be taxed at a higher rate than the cook at Waffle House that has four kids and a crippling student debt he’ll never be able to pay off
@pranithgeddapu34324 жыл бұрын
@@daltongarrett3393 I have a question.. why does he deserve to be taxed at a higher rate? Wouldnt that not be fair to the billionaire?
@daltongarrett33934 жыл бұрын
pranith geddapu when you reach the point of becoming a billionaire, you don’t do it through your own work and effort. You make that kind of money through exploiting the labor of your workforce. Take for example the Walton family, owners of Walmart. Six people that, cumulatively, are worth $191 billion as of 2019. Last year, collectively, they made $100 million per day, $4,000,000 per hour, $70,000 per minute. These six people make more than double in a minute off of delegation of responsibilities and minimal to no labor than most of their employees make in a year. They hoard an exorbitant amount of wealth that could be put towards circulation in the economy, or the betterment of so many lives, and have an absurdly disproportionate and undemocratic control over our social and political landscape. Nobody deserves that much wealth and power
@Chris-ex5ed4 жыл бұрын
@@daltongarrett3393 right? That is a ridiculous amount of money that you could never spend in a life time. At a point it stops being about money and the money turns into power which is why we see so many billionaires trying so hard to become trillionairrs
@steelstringd20187 жыл бұрын
This video is so very important, regardless of which party you identify with. If you're a democrat, you're probably pissed about gerrymandering now. But as a republican, you should be pissed if things switch in favor of democrats. As a members of the United States, you should be pissed that the system is favoring one side or the other.
@jenelaina56657 жыл бұрын
Robert Hutchison another problem LWT didn't cover is safe districts. if you are a Dem or a Rep, if you don't have to worry about re-election because your district is safe (packing) then you have no mathematical reason to listen to your constituents - you're gonna get reelected anyway. you could be a decent person who listens to your voters anyway, but that's despite of the system that all but guarantees your job.
@jenelaina56657 жыл бұрын
Robert Hutchison and if you're a Rep in a guaranteed safe Dem district, or vice versa, good effing luck being heard
@NeoCreo17 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Schlicht This is also contributing to, if not the leading cause of, the increasing tribalization in American politics, since if you live in a safe district, you don't need to appeal to the other side to get elected, so you'll continue to get more and more extreme in order to avoid the only thing that can threaten you, a primary fight.
@Czeckie7 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter. Politicians represent corporations and money, not the people. So all of gerrymandering and you being pissed is just an pointless exercise in democracy.
@davedee5997 жыл бұрын
For the most part we think of Republicans as anti progressive. For example, they don't approve of same-sex marriage. So if things switch and we get a party (Democrats) that try to be more inclusive, what's wrong with that?
@CaptainDoomsday7 жыл бұрын
I really respect that John will throw Democrats under the bus, too. It's not about sides, it's about policies. The US has a lot of defective POLICIES which need improvement, regardless of which side abuses them more. For example, don't have all of your voting based on landmass.
@lauralalien5 жыл бұрын
Captain Doomsday kil
@frankm.28505 жыл бұрын
True, but Republicans still engage in more bullshit manipulation and lying than Democrats in my experience. I've never heard of a Democrat gerrymandering a district to get elected. Apparently its the only way Republicans can get elected.
@derekchapin58675 жыл бұрын
Captain Doomsday m
@kingsfold5 жыл бұрын
@@frankm.2850 Sincere question-- in what state do you live? I live in Massachusetts and it's the exact inverse of what is describes here-- Democrats and Republicans are like 60 D/40 R or maybe 65 D/35 R here, but Massachusetts hasn't had a Republican in congress since 1997-- 22 years ago. We have some Republicans in the state legislature, but it's extremely lop-sided.
@CyanMedic5 жыл бұрын
@@frankm.2850 Voter fuckery genuinely does happen extremely frequently on both sides of the fence. Don't let people tell you otherwise- the whole system is impossible to be salvaged. As example, Democrats have been found being voted for by deceased persons, and non-citizen immigrants in California have no issue legally obtaining a driver's license (sensible), which is all the ID you need to vote in that state (crazy). It's all fucked, my friend. One side will point the finger at the other to keep this "us vs. them" going, because keeping the people divided is key to keeping us unaware of how they work together. Don't buy into the party bullshit.
@ShawnC.W-King5 жыл бұрын
3:19 “...Broken politics can be pretty rough... but that move was gangsta.” -Rep. Hakeem Jefferies -legit
@briantrowbridge81344 жыл бұрын
Brooklyn politics*
@bpmomene27374 жыл бұрын
Best line EVER
@fruitoson42274 жыл бұрын
he said brooklyn
@abd60514 жыл бұрын
Shawn Wesson Brooklyn*****
@SentientPotatoXIII4 жыл бұрын
I think he purposely meant to type broken
@juliatheinternetuser7 жыл бұрын
"So how do you know whether your district was gerrymandered?" I live in North Carolina. That's how.
@laughinsohard78887 жыл бұрын
As a resident of NC, I can assure you, we have some shady elections in nearly every branch of our state government.
@shaynehughes66457 жыл бұрын
Josh Beane At least it's not Florida, because everyone hates Florida, or even California. Seriously, the only good things about California are Hollywoodand some songs by bands named after spicy Mexican plants of a distinct colour. Bad things, however can include being a hot spot for human trafficking. Seriously, (correct me if I'm wrong) two of the cities most used in America for human trafficking reside in California. And it's still not as bad as Florida,in my honest opinion. I've seen Florida in a light tropical storm, it wasn't fun.
@amg9737 жыл бұрын
laughinsohard Agreed. But idk I still like nc
@baqcasanke7 жыл бұрын
same
@allyciphers4927 жыл бұрын
I seriously live 10 blocks away from I94 in Chicago.
@arthurdonnietello96915 жыл бұрын
Am from Africa, i think this is best show in the world... I never knew i can learn this much from a comedian
@natasharichards20485 жыл бұрын
where in africa i am in moz
@majikss5 жыл бұрын
Why does you being from Africa matter at all
@android129215 жыл бұрын
Comedians have become damn serious and politicians f***ng clowns...
@johnkittoiv25724 жыл бұрын
@Josny13 wot the fuck are you talking about? Africa is just like any other geopolitical region in the world, its developing, just not nearly as fast as other regions. Mostly because AFRICA IS A HUMONGOUS CONTINENT WITH WILDLY VARYING CULTURES AND PEOPLES. Not to mention the rest of the world has been exploting THE SHIT out of its peoples for centuries, so politics is very VERY volitile and messy. But don't let the absence of major coverage deceive you, Africa is moving up in the world. So is India. Just not at the speeds the west has seen.
@edithmugadza88034 жыл бұрын
@Josny13 devolving sounds a bit harsh there, As a South African I can assure you it's not that bad
@Andrew-tm3hv7 жыл бұрын
I love how comedy shows these days are doing a better a job than major news stations at covering political and social issues here in America.
@yinyang29717 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hong that's because they kinda dumb it down and make it funnier so the majority of Americans can swallow it without falling asleep. Also comedians are allowed to use political satire. if news anchors did that, they'd be fired
@michaelkraxner14207 жыл бұрын
I would not say he is dumbing it down: he mixes it with (mostly superfluous) jokes, yes... but despite of his opinion he tries to stick to the facts, actually explaining what terms mean, talking about their backgrounds this is what news should cover too, instead of just repeating catchphrases
@puellanivis7 жыл бұрын
They're the only ones allowed to call anything bullshit. Journalism outside of comedy has come to accept that to retain viewers they have to present nearly every issue impartially, and without bias for either side. Even when one side is the truth, and the other is false. Think Flat Earthers... now think how modern journalism in the USA would cover it... yep, they'd have a Flat Earther on who talks and debates his points, to ensure both sides are heard from. In reality, news should be biased towards the truth, regardless of political agendas... "creationism isn't valid science", done. No need to talk with one and have them present their views like somehow it's a valid argument.
@ellamartell7287 жыл бұрын
the thing is pretty much all other media stations are not even trying, they are just crapping out clickbait
@Timtimzi7 жыл бұрын
Someone saw the Vox article :X
@SetitesTechAdventures4 жыл бұрын
My father ran for a local office and came pretty close to winning. Coincidentally we were also drawn out of the district before the next election.
@Kay0Bot7 жыл бұрын
Why can't we just have 13 districts based on their resource specialty. Then one main capital region to manage the districts. That is a perfect plan!
@goodhombre5447 жыл бұрын
Yess and than kill off district 12
@jesusvelarde31377 жыл бұрын
And then make a secret district called district 13. It can house refugees.
@alexanderlee64197 жыл бұрын
and lets have people in the first few districts be born with more wealth
@haik47557 жыл бұрын
Can we also have a train that goes through all of the districts and takes a couple people from each district to an arena?
@codywalker58187 жыл бұрын
Unicorns
@TheNomnomnom08157 жыл бұрын
The more I learn about the american election system, the more baffled I become.
@seanhallahan91425 жыл бұрын
It is set up to restrict majority rule as often as possible. Well the electoral college part. Removing it would give large cities vastly more power over small towns and cities. Despite the rhetoric of democracy. We are far more a Republic. We just like catch phrases to sound cool and Democracy is more catchy
@internetresident38945 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments specifically to check if anyone else shares these thoughts.
@jmirgel5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-yz5wh No it's Not. Every Vote should be equal. In Germany, for example, that's the case, in the US it's not. And i would argue that US politics are far more fucked up and chaotic than germanys'
@momopenguins73355 жыл бұрын
@qwertzuiop how many german people watch john oliver? Cause there are like 6 in basically every comment thread.
@jmirgel5 жыл бұрын
@@momopenguins7335 yeah dunno i guess it's pretty popular considering it's not even in TV here
@ThatsSoWorm7 жыл бұрын
I let John Oliver tell me about things I've heard passed around but was too bored or lazy to learn much about. (Usually politics.) Thank you John, for tricking me into educating myself.
@davidralphsky6 жыл бұрын
Look, I love Oliver, but for the love of god do some reading alongside. John is NOT a new reporter. He's a comedian. A lot of his videos are extremely biased, such as the Kavanaugh one. But even if he wasn't, never EVER EVER get your news from ONE source.
@johnnyc47385 жыл бұрын
You made me laugh, but it was a nervous laugh. Your phone has Google, right???
@karldammann5 жыл бұрын
@@davidralphsky Kavanaugh is a pile of maggot filled dog shit, his opinion about the man may be biased, but the facts he states are not, you can easily look them up for yourself and see they are true.
@gillbates21885 жыл бұрын
Same
@wiretamer57105 жыл бұрын
Politics is kept boring to keep people powerless
@BinaryArmorOnline3 жыл бұрын
It is amazing to me that John Oliver said "Everyone should get a say in government" and five thousand plus people somehow disliked that sentiment
@TheShortGirl6668 ай бұрын
It's okay, KZbin took away the ability to see sad numbers 🙃
@draddadandawg33633 ай бұрын
Because of his framing. 30 mins to say 5 or so simple points sandwiched by selective coverage of facts baked into partizan implicatkons. And 90% memes
@LouieV67 жыл бұрын
"But that move was gangsta" 😭😭😭😭
@APEX-qv7rm5 жыл бұрын
Its funny Until they fly airplanes into buildings Kill a million people for the Oil Mafia Allow Monsanto to give millions cancer Brain damage babies with lead in the water
@majikss5 жыл бұрын
@@APEX-qv7rm what
@APEX-qv7rm5 жыл бұрын
@@majikss Politicians + Corporations Kill people by the millions
@GoogleGebruiker5 жыл бұрын
@@APEX-qv7rm drug abuse is a problem
@APEX-qv7rm5 жыл бұрын
@@GoogleGebruiker Drugs are not as evil as Beliefs Beliefs kill 100's of millions of Innocent people for 5,000 years
@hammadali5947 жыл бұрын
I like how John Oliver doesn't always talk only about Trump like other talk show hosts do. He focuses on other topics that are interesting, but don't have as much exposure.
@johnhanson55277 жыл бұрын
Hammad Ali umm he talked about Trump this episode this is just a clip from that episode
@johnhanson55277 жыл бұрын
but you're right he's probably the one who does it the least but I think it's more dependent on his writers and what hbo wants to air
@valentine93637 жыл бұрын
Joseph, (and this may come off a bit patronizing), if he's becoming political, and this leads to more nuanced political discussion, isn't that a net positive?
@drlawitts7 жыл бұрын
This segment is also about Trump because it shows how republicans use gerrymandering to win elections even when they don't have a majority of voters
@PIKMINROCK17 жыл бұрын
Gerrymandering only affects house and state representatives. It's unrelated to Trump except for the thin connection of being "republican"
@Kas-tle7 жыл бұрын
"Mommy, why is our district shaped like a swastika?"
@Kas-tle7 жыл бұрын
That's our democracy at work, honey.
@Ma5asak457 жыл бұрын
because steve bannon lives near by
@sarahfrom96837 жыл бұрын
Syrup & Pancakes *Mississippi
@homeofthemad30447 жыл бұрын
Joshua Kastle I live in the earmuff district
@jenelaina56657 жыл бұрын
Joshua Kastle there's a district in Michigan (Macomb county) that is shaped like a cross. obviously God's work.
@tylercastaneda35274 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched so much John Oliver recently that my inner thoughts are in his voice
@adrielsebastian52163 жыл бұрын
My god same!
@Tralfazz74 Жыл бұрын
Disturbingly relatable
@iagotoffoli36410 ай бұрын
i know this seems complicated, but let me break down for you !
@DopeyDetector2 ай бұрын
Painfully unfunny
@sniffthecactusduh7 жыл бұрын
No offence, but I just don't get it! Between the presidential elections where the popular vote means nothing and this. How much can you still call this system democratic?
@TheAlhouk577 жыл бұрын
sniffthecactus duh well.... We are a Democratic Republic. Which is a bit different.
@yinyang29717 жыл бұрын
the popular vote does kinda matter. the vote chooses which electorates (dem or rep) will vote for the president. basically it's voting for the people who will vote for the president. we're a representative democracy so we have "representatives" who focus on politics because 70-80% of Americans don't know anything about politics and 99% of Americans aren't involved with it
@sniffthecactusduh7 жыл бұрын
yin yang But why? And if I remember correctly, choosing your representatives is a complicated process which is different everywhere? And how can you know you chose the right representative before the candidates are introduced?
@John-wb1ny7 жыл бұрын
sniffthecactus duh our system is in place because 1. We have a huge country without a true homogenous group of people( when it comes to culture). And 2. Many Americans are simply to dumb in the eyes of politicians to make educated votes for the president. And your question about the representatives, these representatives make it pretty clear who they will be voting for when they are running for office. And these representatives votes obviously reflect the popular vote (which is why the trump presidency is quite surprising)
@sniffthecactusduh7 жыл бұрын
john brand You say that they reflect the popular vote, but hasn't the whole spread out controversy started with the lack of proportional represenration? I live in Europe, and since I'm only recently alowed to vote, is my knowledge of our political system stil inadequate. We work with a Parliament iny country, but while we have multiple forms of gouvernement (city, province, 'gewest' and state) even our system seems more direct.
@vonix7 жыл бұрын
What the hell even is American politics?
@jenelaina56657 жыл бұрын
Vonix #FoxGuardingTheHenhouse
@kaleykatalyst62897 жыл бұрын
Vonix A shitshow
@ChristopherWeaver17 жыл бұрын
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Well I'm living in america and my lifes pretty fair so I don't give a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@jesusfingers89617 жыл бұрын
A dumpster fire fueled by religion hurdling down a hill straight into an orphanage.
@PlaystationMasterPS37 жыл бұрын
I thought that was what the 2016 election was also know as?
@seanporcelli39657 жыл бұрын
Not sure why I look at the comments. It's always a narcissistic superiority competition. Congratulations, you're objectively better than a stranger on the internet.
@pooplayer17 жыл бұрын
Sean Porcelli I know its a nasty place but I still join in to share my opinion. Its a place to get corrected or know the opinions of others.
@humanity3.0907 жыл бұрын
Well said TF2 scout memes.
@linuxd7 жыл бұрын
hit the nail on the head.
@lelong24377 жыл бұрын
Fuck off Sean, think I don't see right through you; tryina maintain a fucking moral high ground.
@Psycoholic20087 жыл бұрын
Jews are responsible for Pokemon not being real.
@johnpatton75334 жыл бұрын
"A map that churns out republicans like Ann Romney" is a joke that still lands in 2020 lol
@Rowsy91Ай бұрын
Man I miss candidates like Obama and Romney 😂
@AngelicalOrABeat7 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ, American democracy is a fucking joke. And I say this as an Italian, so my standards are already pretty low.
@sdgdhpmbp7 жыл бұрын
I've got a faint interest in this so answer me if you will: Which is worse, Trump or Berlusconi?
@aserta7 жыл бұрын
The whole country is a joke.
@AngelicalOrABeat7 жыл бұрын
That's a hard question to answer in a few words. Berlusconi controlled most of the media, whereas Trump sees them as an opposition force. Berlusconi would make us look ridiculous, use his political power for his own financial gain and do nothing good for the rest of the economy - Trump looks like he's going to be the same. The real difference here is that the POTUS office yields so much more power internationally, and has access to the nuclear codes. Italy doesn't even have nuclear plants and is way less influential on the global scale.
@lucaschandler34467 жыл бұрын
Gabriele Catalano we are not a democracy. We are a republic!
@elchucofried56837 жыл бұрын
Gabriele Catalano the U.S is a Republic
@kylebaryonyx94786 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm glad that in Canada, at least for federal and provincial elections, voter districts are drawn by a nonpartisan independent organization
@jeremyboily15515 жыл бұрын
Bull shit
@Marmelademeister5 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Boily why?
@AD-nv6jt5 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyboily1551 evidence please
@theotterguy4 жыл бұрын
@Jeremy Boily It is independent.Google electoral district Canada and read.
@queenkai95224 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how you say something reasonable and true and someone is just like "nope, don't think so"... could make too much sense. That seems to bother people too
@joshuagraham9675 жыл бұрын
So can we all agree that there should be a federal law against Gerrymandering?
@AlphaWolf0965 жыл бұрын
Joshua Graham There is one. Politicians have just found loopholes and ways to get around it.
@joeypoil93705 жыл бұрын
Loopholes? People move and communities change. Is not a loophole
@ThienTran-ni3sv5 жыл бұрын
But who makes the law?
@shanelowry44955 жыл бұрын
@@joeypoil9370 but they aren't drawing it according to people.moving and communities changing.. both sides change it to Make it better for them instead of fare
@milesrowe22634 жыл бұрын
NO!
@martinprochazka37144 жыл бұрын
I'm still kinda puzzled by the idea of having just two political parties... I mean who do you vote for if you don't like neither of them?
@zeccy3374 жыл бұрын
If you like neither of them you're fucked. Your opinion doesn't count. If you're part of one party but you don't like the current leader; like how many republicans dislike trump, then you're fucked as well. Basically there is no third option. If you don't like your current leader but you still like republican ideals then too bad. This is the harsh reality of this ridiculous " democratic system " From the botched electoral college to the silly party system, it's basically a politics game with the illusion of free will.
@NS-pj8dr4 жыл бұрын
you suck it up and vote for whichever corrupt millionaire might cause less damage. basically, an oligarchy.
@targetbuddy54 жыл бұрын
To remove a little cynicism here, you vote for one of the couple third parties. The idea is that you'll get some reimbursement from the government for campaign funds IF you can get 5% of the popular vote. To move back into cynicism here, this is a terrible system that threatens to bankrupt anyone without enough money or political clout to gain a voting following. This is one of the many reasons that third parties don't gain traction here: if you're not immediately appealing, the deck is stacked against you monetarily. So third parties are generally a joke, a la Joe Exotic, or they're funded by the same kind of people that fund Dems and Republicans, just to a lesser extent.
@djungelskogjamjam49954 жыл бұрын
the one you hate the least. this is why we should have a ranked voting system. first past the post ALWAYS ends in a 2 party system
@djungelskogjamjam49954 жыл бұрын
@Julie W. with the way our voting system is set up, that will never happen. If there's a good third party leftist option that gains a lot of traction, that will only split the vote and make all left wing candidates lose. Same case if the independent party is right wing.
@milesthered7 жыл бұрын
In New Zealand electoral boundaries are done by an independent Electoral Commission to avoid gerrymandering. Gerrymandering in any form is a crime here because it's seen as only one step below vote rigging. Boundary drawing in New Zealand also take into consideration communities of interest. In other words they try to avoid dividing communities but if a town or city is too big they prefer to put the boundaries along a major highway or a natural feature like a river. Electoral boundaries can also be challenged by both politicians and voters to ensure fairness. No method of electoral boundary drawing will get rid of districts (or what we call electorates) being dominated by a particular party but having the boundaries drawn by politicians is effectively election rigging in all but name, no matter what the politicians claim. I should add that Electoral Commission staff are not allowed to be members of political parties or serving or former politicians.
@hazukichanx4086 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the rest of the world could learn a thing or two from New Zealand.^^
@lindenrose86266 жыл бұрын
I mean this is true, but we also made the districts almost completely irrelevant. our version of MMP has a baked in system to ensure that party vote almost entirely represents the eventual allocation of seats
@TobiasWeg5 жыл бұрын
In Germany we simply count the votes for the parte and sum them up. So the form of the voting area does not play any role. Why is that not possible in America? Am I missing something?
@perthdude215 жыл бұрын
It's the same process in Australia. The commission that decides new electoral boundaries remains independent from political parties and parliament. I'm assuming the UK has a similar process as well, considering the comments in the video. It makes sense to have an independent commission redraw electoral boundaries instead of highly partisan politicians. The US might like to think of itself as a bastion of democracy, but it's a rather flawed democracy and I find it puzzling that gerrymandering is so blatantly allowed.
@yllwVulcan885 жыл бұрын
Miles Lacey n
@augustus3315 жыл бұрын
Why divide districts at all? In the Netherlands we just count the votes and divide it between seats of parliament. It's the fairest system
@johnclose42015 жыл бұрын
how do you then decide who sits in those seats?
@augustus3315 жыл бұрын
@@johnclose4201 we get a list with all the candidates from all the political parties on the ballot. We can choose from those and the votes are counted on a national level, so that a party with less votes doesn't grt more seats
@khamfai5 жыл бұрын
John Close it’s called party-list system in my country (Thailand). We used to have it for senate election... although now we are under a military government who came to power by a military coup ... so now we have one-house system (we used to have House of Reps and House of Senates - both have different election rules) and all seats are now appointed by the junta ☹️
@khamfai5 жыл бұрын
Guinness I can see at least an advantage in district election - that people can directly choose representatives who should most represent their local interests/affiliations. And I’m thinking the party-list system might work in NL due to the size of the country/population ... but may be too complicated for some country like the US (with different federal & states systems too)... Though I don’t know much details about both countries’ systems so my comment is just theoretical.
@vijaysundarrajan17855 жыл бұрын
@@khamfai You're right about the complexity of replication of a similar system in the US, but even in the US, people don't elect a party based on the candidates running on a district-to-district basis, but the frontrunner candidates for the highest government position, so it doesn't make sense to allow gerrymandering to continue.
@lionfickle7 жыл бұрын
In Australia, we have an independent commission, the AEC, to draw our federal electorates to avoid this problem. Same for all our states; I'm from Victoria, and it's the VEC that handles it. It works; we've never really had any problems with gerrymandering. Also, preference voting is pretty great too at avoiding some of these problems. We've had that for almost 100 years.
@v.sandrone42687 жыл бұрын
Reece Druiven Maybe the US should outsource their district selection to Australia if they cannot find any unbiased people in their country.
@gursherish6 жыл бұрын
In india also we have an election commission which js out of government control....
@kjstarr63015 жыл бұрын
And the same in Canada. Don't want that Fox keeping the keys to the hen house...much?
@wiretamer57105 жыл бұрын
Ah no... you clearly need to read some more Austrian political history... Queensland under Joe in the 70s and 80s was heavily gerrymandered... but all that was blown sky high when he was eventually kicked out. Eternal vigilance is the only cure. Australia's next reform hoop is removing politician's power to set their own salaries. Followed shortly after by removing politician's powers over: immigration policy, energy, drugs including alcohol, hospital funding, human rights, national parks management, compliance with international treaties, consumer information and labeling, legal aid, law reform, waste management, and prison sentencing. Get the politics out of areas where expert knowledge and world's best practice are never going to be popular, or has proved to be an irresistible asshole magnet.
@grandwonder58585 жыл бұрын
Reece, in the USA Republicans are horrified at the thought of having a fair and unbiased system to determine political representation for the American people! How else would they be able to control all branches of the American government (Executive, Legislative, and Judicial) when Republicans are only making up 26% of the American population?
@Mackenzie_EV5 жыл бұрын
Well, gerrymanding is apparently fine now. Thanks Supreme Court! Glad to see American """"Democracy"""" is alive and well!
@danielmarcus4205 жыл бұрын
I came here today for the same reason as you.
@geekdivaherself3 жыл бұрын
RIP RBG.
@blagoevski336 Жыл бұрын
Fr
@FieserMoep7 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me something that is genuinely good about the US voting system? Pretty much each and every step seems to be shit based upon the infrastructure nearly two centuries ago when people had to ride around on horseback to share a message.
@twinheadedwendigo7 жыл бұрын
FieserMoep nothing
@FanOfAnimation7 жыл бұрын
I know something! If you have no clue about any of the details or steps, it seems like a perfectly fine one!
@tomwindle16957 жыл бұрын
direct election of senators?
@BS_stuG7 жыл бұрын
Tom Windle I personally agree with you, but even that is fairly controversial.
@BS_stuG7 жыл бұрын
It has provisions in place to protect the voices of small states.
@noah44637 жыл бұрын
This is, in my opinion, the biggest problem with our (America's) democracy. Sure, the electoral college is poorly made but it in no way disenfranchises people so blatantly or to the degree that gerrymandering does.... Republican or democrat, if you support real American values of fairness and freedom, you should oppose this.
@JonesCrimson7 жыл бұрын
I'd say it comes close to conflicts of interest and money in politics.
@jackramer7 жыл бұрын
But, in the words of Mel Brooks We've got to protect our phoney-baloney jobs, gentlemen!
@LadyCoyKoi7 жыл бұрын
You are correct, Frodo Baggins.
@bittberger7 жыл бұрын
The electoral college disenfranchised over 3 million people.
@jasonreed62627 жыл бұрын
its actually way more than that when you taken into account that even people who voted for trump, the ultimate winner, in states that went to Hillary, their votes didn't matter either, they just got lucy that their preferred candidate won
@LadyCeag8407 жыл бұрын
The speech at the end was awesome!
@RubyOnixx7 жыл бұрын
I was surprised no one else mentioned this yet.
@eugenioroblese15557 жыл бұрын
LadyCeag840 I
@emersonandrews73087 жыл бұрын
The whole joke about the Jill Stein voter was the fact she was never going to win being a third party candidate in a two-party electoral system, hence it was a crazy choice for that person to back her. If you think Bernie would have won (which I'm not disputing btw, I would have loved to see him run against Trump), why would you want that joke made about him?
@ComparativeReasoning7 жыл бұрын
People are not crazy for voting for someone you would not vote for. It is a democracy. So ridiculing the choice is an expression to support fascism to an extent. I did vote for Stein. I had no one left to vote for. Bernie ran away so I was left the tournament winner. Hell no she would not win. People who dislike but clearly support the so-called two-party system prohibited her chances more than the government.
@ComparativeReasoning7 жыл бұрын
Did you notice that the whole Gerrymandering thing is about racism with a cover of base-control and division? If so, then you may find this odd. His interest selection at the end was diverse. The gender was diverse. Racially, it was a mere token black dude barely in the shot on the far barely lift left side. I don't know if that was part of the joke, or just end-skit gerrymandering. What do you think?
@Waterloggedgaming2 жыл бұрын
This episode made me realize that in "Parks and Recreation", Gerry's name being mistaken so many times was a deeply seeded political pun.. Thanks for that one John xD
@chiarodi47497 жыл бұрын
It's sad when a British man is more American proud sounding than an American
@sjn02026 жыл бұрын
Duh duh duh?
@Septimus_ii6 жыл бұрын
It's not surprising - immigrants typically care more about the country than natives - they went to a great deal of effort to choose to live there
@TA_Plus_Hemi6 жыл бұрын
@@Septimus_ii being English not only a great deal of effort to get here but also a great deal of money
@benmohatun6 жыл бұрын
Aw come on you should come to France and just point me towards any single person saying anything good whatsoever about France. It's impossible.
@kevinhovivian11216 жыл бұрын
@Moss : food is good ;-) Oh and we have perfected strikes on art level. No one does strikes as we frenchmen do XD
@jamesdigby60387 жыл бұрын
Sadly, that joke about the pen running out of ink isnt a joke. It's the actual reason that we, that is the British, didn't draw the border between Pakistan and India into the Kashmir and consequently why Indian soldiers, Pakistani soldiers and militants are fighting there.
@elenorderik72806 жыл бұрын
James Digby Palestine Israel and Cyprus too
@bloodstoneore46306 жыл бұрын
James Digby I was wondering what incident that was.
@billreally20086 жыл бұрын
It was not because they ran out of ink
@jamesbrice32676 жыл бұрын
That's more along the lines of an excuse than an actual reason.
@Septimus_ii6 жыл бұрын
In the middle East we had the French to help us
@dangeletti847 жыл бұрын
As a GIS professional, we have AAALLLLL the data and ability in the world to make perfectly bipartisan districts. We just need someone to make them. How much are you willing to pay me?
@harrisonshone77697 жыл бұрын
GIS professionals, secret saviors of democracy!
@evilotto92007 жыл бұрын
There's the rub- someone will always pay more to make them partisan as hell
@y0g_s0th0th7 жыл бұрын
David Angeletti Please run for office. There will be free healthcare.
@MMMHOTCHEEZE7 жыл бұрын
"we have AAALLLLL the data and ability in the world to *make* perfectly bipartisan districts." That bold word is the problem. There shouldn't be any drawing of lines at all. I don't understand why we can't just group up counties into districts.
@LilChuunosuke7 жыл бұрын
I have $1.30, is that enough? I can pay up front in cash.
@philomathstudies92264 жыл бұрын
"Donald's Trump's tweets will be a threat to our democracy" Me: *chuckles nervously in October 2020*
@Artyomthewalrus3 жыл бұрын
*Chuckles nervously in November 2020*
@MrRafagigapr3 жыл бұрын
More like twitter censoring is a threat to our democracy
@syntheticteapot3 жыл бұрын
@@MrRafagigapr lmfao no.
@loljewlol3 жыл бұрын
Laughing happily in November 8
@Elenrai3 жыл бұрын
@@loljewlol *happy european noises*
@Tsukikorao7 жыл бұрын
Maybe I am missing something here, but why do we need districts? Why not look at the stats as a whole? If a state votes 44% blue, then why not give them 44% of the seats?
@frymastermeat7 жыл бұрын
The go-to argument would be that the DNC and RNC would just send whomever to fill those seats instead of people with a vested interest in districts that need representation the most (minority communities, sparsely populated farmlands, etc.). Also, it could make it impossible to "vote out" a particular candidate.
@sleazycakes7 жыл бұрын
well if we had proportional representation the democrats and republican parties would collapse, so it wouldn't be an issue. Minorities could have their own party
@summerstevens25477 жыл бұрын
+sleazycakes you're assuming all minorities want the same thing, diversity exists even within minority groups.
@reen_oderso7 жыл бұрын
That are the advanteges of majority voting with districts. And thats why we have both in Germany, half the representatives are voted in districts (Wahlkreise), the other half with party lists. Its also really complicated ;)
@TacticalCanner7 жыл бұрын
Because big cities are always blue, without exception, and that is where democrats get their votes. Under a democracy, majority (or mob rule) wins. That is not the way America was founded and why the word democracy is not in any founding documents. We live in a constitutional republic and protect the minority opinion. Most of the land throughout out the country are hard working people who should not have to be forced to live the way people in the city want them to live.
@mcountiss7 жыл бұрын
why is that no one ever thinks a system dominated by 2 parties might be a problem?
@SteveBell19677 жыл бұрын
This was exactly what I was thinking.. A point that was glossed right over until he slights the Jill Stein voter at the end. His half baked bashing her take on quantitative easing prior to the election was enlightening, while he was waving that corporate Pant Suit flag, and devoting most of his shows to making fun of the Con Man and his supporters.. Ironic.. especially considering who got the last laugh.
@davidsamolkin61997 жыл бұрын
A two party system means the majority of the people will support one candidate, if there were something like 3 major parties, than it isn't guaranteed that the majority of the population will support the winner. In the same 3 party example the winner could only have 40% of the vote, while in a two party system it guaranteed that the winner will have the majority.
@SteveBell19677 жыл бұрын
Ha! The electoral college just crushed your position. The 2 party system is broken. The Demwits and Reptiles no longer represent the majority of anything. www.selfgovernment.us/news/3
@JoshuaKallenberg7 жыл бұрын
But, that's not how it works. Just because a candidate gets 50 % of the votes doesn't mean that it has 50 % of support. And in a presidential election with more than 2 parties the candidate that won will have won with 50 % of the votes, only it would have happened during the second round of voting. In a state with more than 2 parties all(well, most at least) opinions will be represented, instead of forcing people to choose between two parties and therefore two opinions(this is obviously simplified since every party has different factions in it, and the voters in the US choose a candidate instead of a party(although since the candidate is tied to a party they will of course have to follow the party line most of the time), but in general this is the result). A system with more than two parties also allows for proportional representation(meaning no gerrymandering), which in a two party state is problematic since it means that the variation of options of what opinions exist in the political system would be even more limited than now, since the party chooses the candidate instead of the voters(with more parties this is not a problem).
@ericcohn46697 жыл бұрын
honestly other than the president no politician's beliefs should matter. Ideally their job would be simply to do what a majority of their constituents want and to make sure the bills don't harm anybody with hidden features. Cuz instead I vote for someone cuz most of their beliefs line up with mine and then everyone else does so now on the issues I disagree with and possibly other people I am represented as if I did.
@andredingstertsao5 жыл бұрын
Everybody’s vote should count equally huh? Talk to Electoral College about that!
@joeypoil93705 жыл бұрын
Without electoral college America would fall. It's what made ur country United.
@animeartist8885 жыл бұрын
@@joeypoil9370 ...What?? How does it make the USA united to have a system in which someone can win the majority of the votes from the people and NOT be the person in office? All that does is leave the literal majority of American citizens feeling cheated.
@joeypoil93705 жыл бұрын
@@animeartist888 without electoral college, only 2 states would matter. (CA & NY). They would be the 2 states that decide the government for the rest of the country. The electoral college is how all states agreed to be United.
@buckosoft5 жыл бұрын
@@joeypoil9370 With the electoral college, a person in North Dakota's vote counts >1000 times more than a person in CA due to the dilution of 2 senators across the whole state's population. How is that any more fair than your scenario? Also, you left out Texas, Florida and Pennsylvania as high population states. Plus, how would 60M people (population of those two states) decide the will of 350M? Your point is a Fox News scare point.
@joeypoil93705 жыл бұрын
@@buckosoft 350million people, yikes your country packed. What's your voter turn out? ...50% on a good year...maybe. yes, your country has other high population numbers. New York state and California have the most. The states with the most people (under your scenario of equal vote) would mean the highest pop state would get most of the attention by the federal government, then the second highest pop state and so on. The smallest states would get no attention and have no voice. This issue is not new, this issue is what kept ur country divided. The electoral college is what United your states and made you the solid country that became the empire.
@Mramazn85974 жыл бұрын
"First, that's racist," is the one of the most hilarious lines from this segment lls
@thestopmotionsociety50215 жыл бұрын
What sort of democracy allows the party in government to draw the boundary lines of the electoral districts? Won't the government rig the boundary lines to give itself an unfair advantage? Of course they will. So in advanced democracies, the drawing of electoral lines is entrusted to an electoral commission which is apolitical. But not in America? The mind boggles!!!!!!
@grandwonder58585 жыл бұрын
Now you know why when the Democrats wanted to change the current system of drawing electoral districts to a more fair and non-biased system by creating a non-partisan commission that is responsible for such duties the Republicans vehemently refused! States that are controlled by the Republicans and are guilty of massive Gerrymandering accused the Democrats of imposing federal power over their state rights and conspiring against them!
@bouncyballblue4 жыл бұрын
@@liquidKi Aye, there's the rub. An "apolitical commission" may be less exploitable than our current system, but politicians will inevitably find a way to thwart it. We should still do it, though, because a half-fix at least fixes half of the problem.
@Kartissa4 жыл бұрын
*"How do you make this commission apolitical?"* Staff it with foreigners. That way, the people drawing the boundaries will be apolitical, since they neither hold power in the US, nor reap any potential benefits for rigging the system. Ideally, you'll want people who think the US electoral system is stupid, so most Europeans are eligible (Although not UK Conservatives).
@serugolino78674 жыл бұрын
@@liquidKi my country is so small that this doesn't help as only 2 mil people means every vote counts. We just devide the country and cities to easily register people so the voting is fer(you know so one person can only vote at one place)
@zoravar.k79044 жыл бұрын
@@liquidKi The commission should follow a set districting procedure, with an accountability and appeals system. Like any other government commission in the developed world basically.
@gadjox7 жыл бұрын
America's political system is so fucked up it hurts.
@Jamaha57 жыл бұрын
The end of this was a more patriotic speech than any I heard in the presidential election by far.
@shao198515 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how American still go around claiming their country is the most democratic, I think we Australia have a far more fair and efficient system when it come to representation, and we never try to rub it on other’s face!
@kerrynicholls66834 жыл бұрын
shao19851 No I really do like to rub it in other people’s faces and especially on Donald Trump and how they voted him into power and how I’m laughing at them right now.
@RobbieBackpacking7 жыл бұрын
John Oliver has helped fill the endless hole in my heart since Jon Stewart retired. Another great bit!
david gonzalez ratfucking? www.amazon.com/Ratf-ked-Behind-Americas-Democracy/dp/1631491628
@NickBLeaveIt7 жыл бұрын
How about "State Rape"?
@9sippi37 жыл бұрын
Everytime I see LastWeekTonight I think that the American political system is pretty messed up.
@Valdoy7 жыл бұрын
Well, that's because it's kinda true....
@nickjohnson97047 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is we're using a system that was invented when mail traveled by horse or boat. We don't really need "representatives" as we can all now vote for our favorite celebrity dancer we see on TV.
@grant78907 жыл бұрын
it is
@Ap3x985 жыл бұрын
Ive learned so much about illegal goverment actions from john Oliver. They should teach this stuff in school.
@LMSPetRescue3 жыл бұрын
Ive learned so much insane legal government actions That definitely shouldn’t be legal from him 😂😅 *cries in American*
@utterbullspit3 жыл бұрын
Can't teach kids the truth in America, that's against the law.
@Uruz20124 ай бұрын
Gerrymandering is covered in the required civics/government course needed for a high school diploma. You just didn't pay attention... the Mandela effect isn't just for oddly specific stuff on social media.
@Zeratul1877 жыл бұрын
this is what's happens when you have a two party system , everything get rigged to fuck!!!!!
@John-wb1ny7 жыл бұрын
Syed Abdul Wasay I think everyone knows George Washingtons favorite quote. The party system is the downfall of fair democracy. Government office holders don't fight or vote for what is right, they only bicker and trifle over meaningless issues to discredit the other party
@randrazor7 жыл бұрын
Syed Abdul Wasay but a third party would actually hinder the process imagine party a and b in a two party system, and comes along party c. some of party a members move to party c but that actually helps party b. if originaly it was a 60:40 split for a and b respectively, if c omes and take 30% from a, b which had a minority would win.
@Zeratul1877 жыл бұрын
paskal prasetya the problem wouldn't solve with one more party , elections have to be representative there should be more than 4 political parties to make it work , just look smaller countries like Iceland they got more than 4 ...........
@sharmishthach6857 жыл бұрын
Syed Abdul Wasay In India we have many political parties ... and an independent election comission to decide upon the districts or constituencies of voters.
@Zeratul1877 жыл бұрын
Sharmishtha Ch Yeah the daily show (when John Stewart was on) showed how organised the elections are.......
@likhithchandragiri62457 жыл бұрын
+LastWeekTonight can you do a segment on the famine in Yemen and East Africa. The UN described it as possibly the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2 and it doesn't seem to be getting any coverage in the mainstream media.
@ihavebeenpubliclyhumiliate5787 жыл бұрын
likhith chandragiri worst humanitarian crisis since WW2 is probably Rwandan Genocide, but the U.N was barely involved in it so they don't count it
@dust79627 жыл бұрын
DmacAttack At least somebody was involved.
@StrazdasLT7 жыл бұрын
Its not covered because its caused by islamists and maistream media loves islamists.
@xyzqsrbo7 жыл бұрын
likhith chandragiri never heard of it xD.
@SocialistFinn17 жыл бұрын
The worst crisis is the immigration into Europe but ya'll don't care about that cause you hate white people
@marioarmia14497 жыл бұрын
Honestly I loved that last part in the end!!! Everyone voice should be heard NO MATTER WHAT!!!
@andrewlikestrains41387 жыл бұрын
Mario Armia You like that he bashed Jill Stein supporters in the end?
@allthatishere7 жыл бұрын
+andrewwantsafreetibet so? whats your point?
@andrewlikestrains41387 жыл бұрын
allthatishere I supported Jill Stein.
@moadewunmi93807 жыл бұрын
Were you in a competitive state? Because if you were that's a guaranteed stupid decision.
@djprofiteer7 жыл бұрын
Freedom of speech
@rashkavar4 жыл бұрын
"We should all be relevant...that's the point of this country." Yes, John, that's definitely the point of that country.
@nobackhands3 жыл бұрын
The term Gerrymandering was coined in 1812
@kempolar976810 ай бұрын
@@nobackhandseven if the term is new, anythings existence is always vastly older than the name.
@nobackhands10 ай бұрын
@@kempolar9768 "the term is new" over 200 years old
@AnonEyeMouse7 жыл бұрын
Here is how you fix gerrymandering. You have the Democrats draw up their chosen districts. You have the Republicans draw up their chosen districts. Each district is tossed in a bag. A randomly selected school provides a team of 4th graders overseen by a teacher and a government official who is there to apply basic rules. The kids draw out a district and place it on the map. As the districts are placed and may over lap or fall short, they are in charge of redrawing the borders to keep things fairly sensible. Both parties then get to shut the fuck up.
@tompurcell14995 жыл бұрын
I like it.
@1000wastedwords5 жыл бұрын
Fuck it, let's do it.
@aoshinn7 жыл бұрын
Crazy old president, districs, walls... Are you guys trying to get your own Hunger Games?
@CollinMcLean7 жыл бұрын
We're really going more for Mad Max than the hunger games...
@Oatyquakenbush7 жыл бұрын
Aoshi Kearun yeah I agree hunger games is a little too hopeful, but mad max is exactly what we are going for
@CyberGenesis17 жыл бұрын
Given the level of corporate involvement, it's more Blade Runner
@buckyhate76957 жыл бұрын
Yeah right. That would entail poor people getting food. Too close to socialism. Lol
@marcow2466 жыл бұрын
Collin McLean we already have a mad max, it's called Florida
@Sam-on5jf4 жыл бұрын
I have a radical idea: whatever percentage of people who vote for someone get that percentage!
@kevray4 жыл бұрын
You’re right that is a radical idea
@dam_smit3 жыл бұрын
"COMMUNIST" - USA 45th president
@stayforthepeelpronpls47743 жыл бұрын
ADSM17 “IDIOT”
@averagejoe60313 жыл бұрын
That would make too much sense, go back to any other developed democracy.
@beansprugget25053 жыл бұрын
That is what happens? That's what happens for the senate, because the whole state votes. You can't do that for the HoR because then everyone would have to vote for every representative. So they have to have districts. And the people who do get elected ARE the percentage in that district; the problem is that the district is badly drawn.
@AvennGed17 жыл бұрын
I learn more from John Oliver than I ever have at school.
@AvennGed17 жыл бұрын
JohannsSOCKS lololol xD
@AvennGed17 жыл бұрын
GunsMc$h00t Right!?
@AvennGed17 жыл бұрын
Pooponastoop xD
@AvennGed17 жыл бұрын
StampedingSquirrels you know it!
@AvennGed17 жыл бұрын
JonSnow :P
@LivingInTragedy7 жыл бұрын
As a white guy, I never knew the term "gangsta" could be used in politics. But I have learned something new.
@manuginobilisbaldspot4247 жыл бұрын
White people have always been the biggest gangstas.
@jesusfingers89617 жыл бұрын
I'm sure African Americans and the LGBT community think the same thing about systematic oppression under the name of "traditional values."
@L1nkn1vy7 жыл бұрын
Manu wtf are you talking about. Whites are the biggest candy asses. Source: am white
@nfzeta1287 жыл бұрын
I have to seriously agree with that guy though. That move was pretty 'gangsta' they purged him out of the district like a big gang purges a small one.
@oro88547 жыл бұрын
I think he's speaking on Italian Mafia (gangsters) which are technically white. But I agree an overwhelming majority of white people are candy asses Source: Am white, am a candy ass
@slavesforging53615 жыл бұрын
That was obviously the sweetest grandmother in the world. she was trying to scowl and and look angry... she just couldn't.
@mariopuzo33614 жыл бұрын
As a Greek, I cringe when I hear John describe Chobani as a "Greek export", given that it's an American brand started by a Kurdish man in New York. The word "Chobani" itself is Turkish. Just because you like to call that stuff "Greek" doesn't mean it is, and in fact I can assure you our dairy products blow that processed garbage out of the water.
@Resi1ience Жыл бұрын
I understand your concerns, but I dare not try to speak your name lest my furniture start floating again. Also, it was a joke.
@buffuniballer Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's Greek style? But I get it, Thin Mints are also false advertising. I can eat boxes and boxes of them and never get thin, LOL.
@Dizzytears Жыл бұрын
you owe me money
@maximumkillmtg7 жыл бұрын
Well, the biggest reason why gerrymandering is such a big deal in US politics is because the electoral system is 99.999% first-past-the-post, which is a system so ancient it should only belong in a museum. If you take a look at more advanced electoral systems such as those in Germany or Australia you can quickly realize that by capping district voting with national-level proportional representation (Germany); or by allowing preferential voting (Australia), you will get much better results. I am no American so I can't firmly tell why the system has not been changed already. But my guess is that it's the same reason why the Imperial System is still in used today even though it also is an ancient system that simply does no good in the modern world - Americans are too proud of themselves to admit that they are wrong or admit that some other countries are doing things better than they do.
@Hanniekinz7 жыл бұрын
American here; although I understand and agree with what you're proposing, it's much easier said then done. It's incredibly hard to change the way things work when they're so deeply imbedded in our constitution (and history). Things have worked this ways since practically day one. Changing things seems incredibly unlikely.
@maximumkillmtg7 жыл бұрын
Hannah Marie This is the kind of thinking that gets the country nowhere. Many other countries have moved past where the US currently is. Germany only got Bundestag in 1949. Canada metricated in 1970s. Every country with good systems today used to have worse systems in the past. It can be done. Maybe if everyone in the US realizes that the only other countries in the world that use Imperial System are Myanmar and Liberia, they will want to make a change. I once told that to an American dude and I swear I had never seen anyone get that pale before.
@TimoRutanen7 жыл бұрын
I believe a big part of the problem is that whoever has the advantage and gets to draw the lines, won't want to change it since they have the advantage. And the other party can't make the change alone. When the roles are reversed later, the same thing happens in reverse. You can clearly see an example of this in how smug the politicians in those interviews were when they were about to rip off the opposition.
@maximumkillmtg7 жыл бұрын
Well, when left to themselves, politicians (as a group) are going to choose whatever is good for them, not what is good for the people. So, in order to make a change, it has to be a bipartisan effort from the mass. What you are saying is true, and it's a symptom of a deeper problem: the majority of Americans either have no idea how much they are being screwed by their own electoral system; or they don't trust each other enough to fix it. Whenever someone realizes this problem and speaks up for the system to change, the mass thinks that it's a ploy from the other side to steal voting powers. The rift is wide, and it keeps getting wider and wider because of the two-party system, which is a result of Electoral College and having 99.999% of all elections within the country be first-past-the-post, which are being kept despite being antiquated just because it's "the will" of the founding fathers. Everything is intertwined and the whole thing is totally messed up. You guys already have a mature system with proportional representation; Cambridge, MA, has had proportional representation since forever. Learn from that city.
@DarkMeridian07 жыл бұрын
Atipong Pathanasethpong actually, Americans still use the imperial system because of the size of our country/how many roads we have simply put, it would cost a lot of fucking money to replace every road sign in the USA all at once.
@jacksagephoenix7 жыл бұрын
It's really not that complicated. There's a concept in political philosophy called the "veil of ignorance," where the people who make the choices have no knowledge about how they will personally be affected by those decisions. In this case, you find a "committee of unbiased people" to draw boundaries by not providing any demographic information about the people living in those areas. No names, no gender, no race -- simply "this many people live in this community and this is how they are laid out." Or you can just get a computer to use a shortest straight line algorithm. Or do away with districts altogether and use some kind of proportional representation.
@Janlssary5 жыл бұрын
but in the video it says "it is important to find a balance between different groups of people so minorities can also be heard" in the video, they argue shortest straight lines are also problematic and harmfull
@frankieeneaux54815 жыл бұрын
V O T E-2020BLUEWAVE
@jasonthedoggy42255 жыл бұрын
Jack Phoenix very good point, only slightly undercut by the fact that your profile picture is a Simpsons character with a beard.
@sagesheahan67324 жыл бұрын
This comment should have WAY more likes than it does. Spot. On.
@mme.veronica7354 жыл бұрын
Then minorities may not be fairly represented and the districts by chance could rig the electrion
@thedevaul7 жыл бұрын
That moment you realize that John Oliver is more American than most Americans.
@thorsmitersaw10517 жыл бұрын
get out.
@willow28937 жыл бұрын
well
@ThorTempest7 жыл бұрын
SELECTOR_D AA
@TheFunkoDunko7 жыл бұрын
John Oliver is an American though, he has American citizenship. He's just as American as you or me, accent or no
@Ladifour7 жыл бұрын
John Oliver is not an American citizen. He is a permanent resident.
@dariodegros9243 жыл бұрын
"Americans don't live in squares" So where do you live? Oh, you know, a few blocks from here...
@mindyourownbuisnes88137 жыл бұрын
every time I watch this show I'm happy to live in Germany
@der_didler_asfsh56527 жыл бұрын
You know that World WarII was about 70 years ago, right?
@Exantius97 жыл бұрын
The Incredible Link Lol, judging a modern day German (probably a young one at that, given the channel's viewer demographics) based on Nazi atrocities. Classic
@DerSourceCodeGER7 жыл бұрын
Janik Wieland die Überhangmandate der Unionsfraktion, die bis vor 2013 im Bundestag nicht ausgeglichen wurden, haben die parlamentarische Abbildung der Wahl auch verzerrt. Also Deutschland war, was das angeht bis vor kurzem auch nicht besser.
@RealTalkWithSSG7 жыл бұрын
The Incredible Link Don't judge a book by it's cover. Plus, today's German youth have nothing to do with the war, so shut it.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv7 жыл бұрын
Janik Wieland Yep can't wait for the next attack from your refugees and I hope you are there when it happens! Then tell us how great Germanistan is!
@bigmacblk7 жыл бұрын
This is a problem that needs to be fixed... Real Americans need to STAND UP TO THIS MESS!!!.
@TardyTardigrade7 жыл бұрын
lets chat Standing up may require more than most are willing to give. What happens when making your voice heard, marching, or writing your "representatives" does nothing? What happens when you learn that the only way politicians will give up their control is by prying it from their cold dead hands? Would you be willing to make the ultimate sacrifice to stand up?
@donlyemanuel7 жыл бұрын
John Matrix What's that? Choosing between the red and blue pill? Plz
@abdelarmstr51737 жыл бұрын
Alright. I'm standing up. Even though I don't live in the US.
@sindri14477 жыл бұрын
Yeah no way. This is a damn comfy chair. I'm not leaving it for anything :P
@amaka6377 жыл бұрын
+lets chat *Puts on patriotic cape* I'M READY.
@Bluefairyblogfilm7 жыл бұрын
The little old lady at the end is adorable.
@henrychinaski86862 жыл бұрын
I disagree with John Oliver often (because I am right wing) but he is the only comedian on mainstream media who is actually funny and I respect that.
@ids50962 жыл бұрын
Same here. The only reason I’m here is because my libtard professor thinks this guy knows what he’s talking about.
@late86412 жыл бұрын
I mean, his team does a lot of research for the show and just because something goes against your interests or beliefs doesn't mean it can't be factual. I can't think of anything they would've gotten so blatantly wrong that it would affect their credibility negatively.
@teacher9157 жыл бұрын
Phillip defraco said this was worth watching...so true. Guess I have a new show to watch each week
@mainsmain7 жыл бұрын
What if he also said bleach was worth drinking would you drink it?
@mr.ansatsu79667 жыл бұрын
tiagovalen Chill, Dude. He did his due diligence and actually checked out the video and found it suited to his taste.
@Feebelzzz7 жыл бұрын
So I should at least try the bleach?
@rngouveia7 жыл бұрын
watch the ones about church, tobacco and nuclear weapons. Then swear at the sky in anger due to the irresistible need to retroactively watch dozens of already aired episodes.
@AbraHaze847 жыл бұрын
just when I start to think "I finally get the US political system" things like this come to my attention and the whole thing becomes absurd once more...
@mistasharp38757 жыл бұрын
This man is going to unite the world. Just wait #faithinjohnoliver
@celtytompkins52947 жыл бұрын
Zackery Sharp unite eveyone except republicans of course. because republicans cause all the problems (that was sarcasm)
@santosgessy707 жыл бұрын
Zackery Sharp they don't cause all of them but they do cause a great majority
@issaalsaleh79487 жыл бұрын
Heheh...I mean, he has a church.
@kiraina257 жыл бұрын
Issa alSaleh Had. He had to shut it down after some joker sent him actual semen.
@asbestosfish_6 жыл бұрын
Zackery Sharp Indeed, may he finally unify it through comedy and depression. #ModernMrBeale
@anricccs60964 жыл бұрын
Anyone else come here from the Census episode?😂
@aditimote73284 жыл бұрын
Me!!!! 😂
@hazleweatherfield9684 жыл бұрын
Lol I never usually click on the recommended videos at the end either, but for some reason this one stood out to me
@annikreinblut81477 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence! My friends and I are cracking and packing right now!
@autarchprinceps7 жыл бұрын
This is why majority voting is stupid. Just give the party exactly the portion of seats that is equivalent to their result in the ellection and you don't have this or many other problems.
@IskurBlast7 жыл бұрын
So the party chooses who is your representative and not you? Proportional representation is anti-democratic.
@ngoma7 жыл бұрын
it's like that already...the game is over. Citizens lost and the wealthy are not giving the country back.
@DrDiHai7 жыл бұрын
Uhm no. Proportional voting doesn't mean you can't choose who's on your ballot. At least not everywhere ;). Also. are you seriously claiming that anybody can win a district in the US, independently of whether he's been nominated by a party or not?
@Algrokoz7 жыл бұрын
We don't have a democracy. We have a REPUBLIC, and for good reason. Besides, they already choose who you can even vote for in the primaries so it would change nothing.
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs7 жыл бұрын
Algrokoz: A democratic republic is a subtype of democracy, and "republic" is a vague blanket term that doesn't describe a specific political system. A bacon cheeseburger is still a cheeseburger. You're not as special as you think.
@zacherybishop77107 жыл бұрын
Proportional voting and just a more parliamentary system of electing our officials would work much better.
@spikethompson20007 жыл бұрын
Zachery Bishop *democrats
@jenelaina56657 жыл бұрын
Zachery Bishop to be fair, Dems can when they will (and dropped the ball in 2010). district lines should be out of partisan control as much as possible altogether.
@involuntaryascetic36027 жыл бұрын
*politicians this is not a partisan thing
@TheShadesOfBlack7 жыл бұрын
*people
@ChristopherWeaver17 жыл бұрын
Political Parties in general
@amehak19224 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert; the Supreme court said gerrymandering for partisan reasons is pretty much okay by claiming that it's not a federal issue.
@christinee.77467 жыл бұрын
John, you are just the best part of my Monday mornings.
@retractedhack7 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't a district's population size determine how many seats they get to elect? Why should democrats, or any political ideology for that matter, be punished for living in close proximity to like-minded people?
@IskurBlast7 жыл бұрын
Because you system doesn't represent parties it represents communities. If you chose to group together with like minded people too damn bad.
@retractedhack7 жыл бұрын
IskurBlast oooh sounds like someone's jealous.
@vancehancock70787 жыл бұрын
It does determine how many seats they get. All the districts have roughly the same number of people. The issue is that the Democrats waste their votes in highly uncompetitive districts, not that their districts have more people in them.
@frankdavis75907 жыл бұрын
Chad Carteret What? All districts have roughly the same population
@Nosirt7 жыл бұрын
the answer to your question is electoral college. you are punished for living in the same ideological place at higher population under electoral college and you are punished for living in spread-out population under popular vote. basically, electoral college favors republican, popular vote favors democrat. now if you say "but the popular vote is clearly better. it doesn't punish people for living closely and its more democratic", that is true but you have to understand something. More people live in the north than south, and each presidential election, democrat would win because of popular votes as there are more democrats now then ever before. but think who lives in the south: farmers. this is a battle fought by federalist industrial hamilton and democrat-republican agricultor Jefferson. things like higher tariffs would benefit the industries but create an economic depression for the farmers, and if democrats controlled the executive branch, itd always be a burden on farmers. Jefferson opposed the making of president because of this and hamilton needed to compromise with him. this is why the founding fathers made the electrole college. it was a compromise to make the position of the president but also (the compromise) not have it controlled by the mob-mentality (one party control)due to their rising population. they made it in order to create a system that doesn't favor closed population. In layman's term, The US founding Father "punished [people] for living in close proximity to like-minded people" to stop California* and new your alone from electing every president. of course, cali wasn't even made then but just giving you an example to why the system was made. each state wanted to be equally represented.
@alfinandy16127 жыл бұрын
Wtf america... when do you think this is, the 1800s?!
@csanfino2837 жыл бұрын
America: Actually its 1794 .....get it right
@Fishbiene7 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ryanspears19867 жыл бұрын
Alfin Andy If we say it is, then it is.
@CaptainDoomsday7 жыл бұрын
Apparently, that's when America was great.
@Awesometrax7 жыл бұрын
I've said it before on LWT videos and I'll say it again: America is basically the world's stubborn uncle.
@ertu23829 ай бұрын
I hope most natural citizens of America realize how much Mr. Oliver truly loves this country. Big fan. If you're watching this, you already are as well.
@menotyou27907 жыл бұрын
At the very least they change the constitution from "We the people" to read "We the electoral districts". It wouldn't be fair but it would be a more accurate, and probably a lot easier to pass as well.
@stza166 жыл бұрын
The districts only apply to the House.
@therepublicofdiarrhea77927 жыл бұрын
Can we draw a line around Mar-a-Lago and tell Trump his hands will shrink if he leaves? That move would definitely be gangsta.
@matthewweinberg98427 жыл бұрын
John Oliver deserves an Emmy. Now.
@996dragonslayer6 жыл бұрын
One more?
@danielsolis19964 жыл бұрын
I never realized how much funnier the show is with the audience....Come baaack 🥺🥺🥺
@YarrBr05 жыл бұрын
this one left me with a lot of love for the average citizen. that final message really hit home
@Terpe757 жыл бұрын
That is misrepresentation, the guy was not wearing a Fedora, he is actually wearing a Trilby
@moeb1us7 жыл бұрын
which is a variant of a fedora?
@Ridiculous777 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with wearing a fedora anyways? It's a nice looking hat that (depending on the color of both) can go great with a suit.
@Terpe757 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with the Fedora. I was just pointing out that it is a Trilby, not a Fedora that the guy was wearing.
@libbybollinger59017 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous 77 it's because the 'fedora' is associated with a certain type of people. Typically the 'nice guys' who are really just entitled assholes.
@baqcasanke7 жыл бұрын
OMG thankyou i was thinking the exact same thing when John said that
@StefanLopuszanski7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Gerrymandering is a huge issue. A huge, huge issue. On par with the electoral college. We need people to actually be fairly represented and to have those representatives be based on the will of the people. Not some arbitrary system that gives some votes more power than others. It is disgusting that it is set up like this and we can't truly be a country of equality and freedom without it.
@Mutex507 жыл бұрын
If we used approval voting, at least gerrymandered districts would be competitive and the more centrist candidate would win.
@rachelfox81084 жыл бұрын
This is why I keep watching John Oliver. Every person's vote should count and be counted equally, no matter their views, no matter their history, no matter their choices. For my vote to mean anything, so must theirs-- even if I disagree with them. That's what democracy needs to work.
@helenanilsson56667 жыл бұрын
excuse you slenderman would be a great babysitter. you will never see your children again but wherever they are they are in great care.
@despairedi7 жыл бұрын
Are you telling me people making up lines on a map is giving them power. Unbelievable.
@TheRealE.B.7 жыл бұрын
People who hate political parties would actually be pretty reliable at drawing non-partisan districts. Then we'd just need to fix the rest of our 18th-century electoral system.
@NatoBoram7 жыл бұрын
leadfoot9x They'd use common sense and gerrymander for Democrats, so that wouldn't work either
@christopherbohanan44535 ай бұрын
Goddamn… being a non rich American is SO depressing… feels more hopeless every year
@matthieubethermin23387 жыл бұрын
What about a proportional system? It would solve the problem naturally!
@Julio9746 жыл бұрын
Matthieu Bethermin There is a problem with the National proportional: it stops local representation. But it is not a problem, we just need to make a state proportional system!
@Braamsery19926 жыл бұрын
In Germany it isnt. Here we have 299 districts for the national election. You have 2 Votes basically, one for a specific person from your district and one for the party, which makes 598 seats at minimum. The vote for party is more important, because it determines the percentage of seats a party gets in parlament. Usually the percetage doesnt equal the first vote, so there are more than 598 seats at the end (709 this time). But at the end, every party gets the seats they should and every district has their politician.
@herranton6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that works in Germany where over 92% of eligible voters are ethnically German. In the USA we didnt have a leader in the past 80 years or so (or ever) that decided that he would throw all the people that weren't of the "master race" into ovens, so the ethnic breakdown of the USA isn't quite as homogeneous.
@TheSarahskaninchen6 жыл бұрын
herranton1979 can you explain your answer and why the USA would not be able to use this system? edit: To explain my question: You could still have districts with ethnic similarities who vote for a person to represent them but you also could implement the 2nd vote for the party and add representants so that the seats in the congress reflect the percentage of the votes for both parties.
@herranton6 жыл бұрын
TheSarahskaninchen That still doesn't fix the gerrymandering problem. And it adds the problem of voting for a party and not a person, which doesn't ever turn out well for minorities.
@childofthesun17027 жыл бұрын
How about introducting proportional representation for the house and just have the senator directly elected? Then their is no district manipulation possible.
@fuccix7 жыл бұрын
When a British import is more patriotic than the president...
@anunya66377 жыл бұрын
when someone named yak ,hasn't a clue!
@fuccix7 жыл бұрын
Enlighten me then?
@maikelfresco36457 жыл бұрын
Yak, are you forgetting your British important encouraged Trump to run for the most patriotic office? Lol
@maikelfresco36457 жыл бұрын
Jonas Pesen, it takes one to know one. Out of mockery John Oliver entertained & encouraged the idea. That came to bite him on the ass along with those who are (out of touch with American voters!) Mainly liberal elite media.
@anunya66377 жыл бұрын
@Penis Jonas are you?
@gyrene_asea41334 жыл бұрын
Slayed me at 11:12, "water is warm today. Enjoy your swim." oh!
@cloudnaeris26727 жыл бұрын
whats so fucking hard about 1 vote = 1 vote whoever gets the most votes wins?
@shinigamijack42087 жыл бұрын
*whiny voice* but that's mob ruuullee.. We're a repuubliiic *really getting the annoying voice going* I'm going to make a bad comparison: If the majority is right, that makes gang rape okay. (Idiot logic FTW)
@DouglasWalrath7 жыл бұрын
2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner
@drlawitts7 жыл бұрын
Because the majority poor would always vote to seize the assets of the majority rich
@Ms4521237 жыл бұрын
drlawitts What??
@jenelaina56657 жыл бұрын
Cloud Naeris well if you're talking about"teams" why wouldn't either take an advantage where they can, eh? ... which is exactly why redistricting NEEDS to be out of partisan control as much as possible.
@danieljob31847 жыл бұрын
Republicans: 'Ha-ha! We're Gerrymandering a District!' Democrats: 'That's not a Gerrymandered District!? - This is a Gerrymandered District!' U.S. Voters: 'Are you SURE there isn't a third party? Did you look behind the couch?'
@ADerpyReality6 жыл бұрын
Well there is American Greens and American labor. I am sure there is at least 20 other parties but those are the ones similar to Australia's. I vote ALP (Australian Labor Party) because they actually do their job and have a history of doing it well. Oh btw it's a democratic socialist party.
@stevenmohr98635 жыл бұрын
That's the funniest Yt comment I've ever read. LOL. Good show :)
@MrDanisve5 жыл бұрын
2 party system makes it hard for any other parties to compete. As it is a "winner-takes all" system. Winning a prime minister seat in my nation of Norway is way less power in 1 person than a president. Aswell as everyone gets mandates from votes. This is why some odd parties can have 1 mandate if they have high enough votes. This is to include minorities, not a democracy if there is majority rule. When US was created they made the 2 party system to avoid majority rule. However they kinda made it.
@adelaideharper92015 жыл бұрын
Green Party: We exist and we're not behind the couch. In fact, we're making huge strides in ensuring our environment will be clean and safe for- U.S. Voters: So, Democrat or Republican, you say? Maybe I'll try voting Libertarian this year.
@jasonlambert55525 жыл бұрын
Getting more people off the couch and into the voting booth would make these districts kind of obsolete, really.
@ok_schlatter7 жыл бұрын
when the camera starts moving, you know something good is about to happen
@mariasalazar12807 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Schlatter true
@Rekcoj3 жыл бұрын
i'm fascinated by the fact that the "US-multi-party" democracy is basically a two-party-dictatorship and everyone has silently accepted that. with the rise of identity/group politics in the last decade or two, i do not understand how there's still basically just two parties to vote for.
@KD-ou2np2 жыл бұрын
Yeah most of us don't understand it either but those two parties are so entrenched into the way our government works, and they have so many resources dedicated to them as institutions I legit don't know how we will ever un fuck it
@allenerin017 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I learn something about my country that just disgusts me to the point of vomiting. This is fucking insane! We have to change this shit, this completely vindicates my decision to get my law degree.
@thehistorynerd85377 жыл бұрын
Why? Cauae she wants to make our country better? You think that everything in the country is perfect? Conseervatives love to say that Syrian Refugees should improve their country instead of leaving. Well herr are people who want to change things, and you tell them to leave? If she kept complaining abiut how she hates thr land and the people, sure she should leave, but if she is disturbed on whats going on and trying ti fix it, isn't that what any countries would want?
@grass78647 жыл бұрын
Alanamarie, go for it. Become a lawyer and help us fix this mess. The History Nerd, thank you, you put it perfectly. imo, shut the fuck up because you're a fucking moron.
@tifforo17 жыл бұрын
If you think getting a law degree is going to enable you to convince politicians to give up the job security of being able to draw their own districts, you're at risk of joining the many disillusioned young people with law degrees.
@tifforo17 жыл бұрын
Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, and Virginia have an estimated 300,000+ removable immigrants each included in their population numbers as well. Children are included in population numbers too.
@thehistorynerd85377 жыл бұрын
And for the one thing I would want Trump to do is remove all the illegals in Lakewood