Ben Shapiro and Malcolm Nance on Critical Race Theory | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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Malcolm Nance and Ben Shapiro join Bill to discuss the "muzzle laws" being introduced by Republican lawmakers that seek to limit the degree to which educators can talk about race in the classroom.
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@augustus331
@augustus331 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very great example of why some debates should not have an audience.
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
ya
@Awesoman
@Awesoman 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Some audience members are really stupid. Especially those in California.
@txdunn
@txdunn 2 жыл бұрын
And the debaters should be in sound proof rooms that can be muted when someone is answering their arguments
@MG-rg3jo
@MG-rg3jo 2 жыл бұрын
It is also a great example of why CRT is doomed. When a Malcolm Nance is a champion of it then by definition it is finished.
@danporath536
@danporath536 2 жыл бұрын
This wasn’t “debate”, it is infotainment for audience capture and retention. A debate would be two to three hours with a moderator, a proponent of CRT and an opponent. It would start with coming to a mutual agreement on definitions. It won’t happen because proponents of CRT would never agree to this.
@Maxx61
@Maxx61 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a registered Independent who has enjoyed Maher for years but his show would be so much more enjoyable without the clapping seals.
@friscomorsegmail
@friscomorsegmail 2 жыл бұрын
Maxx it is sad that a comedian has to arbitrate a well reasoned debate. Love Bill and almost always agree with him. Malcolm resorts to cheap ass shots that make his opinion worthless.
@Maxx61
@Maxx61 2 жыл бұрын
@@friscomorsegmail Agree. As soon as the insults began, it became the intellectual version of Mike Tyson biting Evander Holyfield's ear. The parallel being at these two moments in history, two out of the four were getting their ass handed to them with desperation and frustration the end result.
@sameerhelmandi2923
@sameerhelmandi2923 2 жыл бұрын
@@friscomorsegmail Ben shapiro literally said "I will comfort myself tonight by sleeping on my bed made of money" as if it was not the most childish remark I have heard. Both parties were not even being fair just throwing opinions and their own fabrications around. Malcom can't even make a solid argument and ben shapiro neck veins pop out each time you question his superior knowledge
@gladiater56
@gladiater56 2 жыл бұрын
I think the only section of his show that would benefit from a no applause sign would be the panel discussions. Everything else I'm fine with.
@YourLocalCopiumDealer
@YourLocalCopiumDealer 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the audience is so much the problem as it is the 'clapping seals' in it. Watched his shows during the lockdown and I have to admit that it felt kinda empty. Maybe have more conservatives on or place a bucket of fish in the parking lot to keep those idiots distracted during the show.
@jameschoi6098
@jameschoi6098 Жыл бұрын
Can’t respect someone that can’t have a factual conversation without insulting the other person because they know they can’t win the argument.
@damianrobbins4167
@damianrobbins4167 10 ай бұрын
Yeah can't respect a CIA agent who has protected your freedom to crappy opinions.....
@karenday9109
@karenday9109 9 ай бұрын
Agree 💯
@cedwardmassey
@cedwardmassey 8 ай бұрын
You can't have a factual argument with Ben Shapiro
@alfonstabz9741
@alfonstabz9741 8 ай бұрын
@@cedwardmassey Whaat???
@harrymurray9702
@harrymurray9702 7 ай бұрын
@@cedwardmassey Yes, because he speaks truth, and malcom was too weak and dishonest to focus on the truth.
@jasonrowland6719
@jasonrowland6719 9 ай бұрын
It scares me how people thought Malcom was right and cheering him on. That’s was terrifying. Ben and Bill were a bit blown away by his stupidity.
@-ucanthandledatruth01-12
@-ucanthandledatruth01-12 9 ай бұрын
They choose with deep devotion to pretend to be "blown away". Their job is important for your psychological distortion which fuels white supremacy (white supremacy is the power behind your currency).
@Tyler_Durden_562
@Tyler_Durden_562 8 ай бұрын
that's what happens when the whole crowd is hardcore liberals. They'll always cheer for the Left regardless of what is being said
@cecileasley9331
@cecileasley9331 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like Ben and Bill were the stupid ones dat u fell to understand .
@grnight6131
@grnight6131 8 ай бұрын
@@spoker2006 Now where do you even get the idea that he is racist?
@jackwilson3297
@jackwilson3297 8 ай бұрын
This was the first time I saw Malcom Nance , and he is so cringe and inapt in debate, he was obnoxious , Im not a big shapiro fan but he called MN's idea bullshit , whereas MN just insulted ben for NO reason
@Mmanifesto22
@Mmanifesto22 2 жыл бұрын
The audience clapping for Malcolm is the craziest part of this exchange.
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
🤡 audience
@UndertakerU2ber
@UndertakerU2ber 2 жыл бұрын
The producers flashed the "Applause" sign off camera, and so they did whatever the shiny blinking sign told them to do.
@jamesgraham2192
@jamesgraham2192 2 жыл бұрын
I know its frustrating ur icel hero is getting shit on
@Akihito007
@Akihito007 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgraham2192 Ben Shapiro is married with 3 children and a VERY successful business so that's pretty much the opposite definition of being an "incel": Plus his whole message has been, "finish school, don't go to jail, get married before having sex and you should make it in America".
@yukaiwang8930
@yukaiwang8930 2 жыл бұрын
@@Akihito007 Shapiro has his own agenda too. He is well spoken, I agree with that, I find some of his content entertaining, but I never watch any of this content without filtering in my mind what both sides are trying to articulate and the real meat and grit behind their arguments. Yes Ben is highly articulate but his argument is fundamentally flawed, no matter how well he articulates it. "CRT" doesn't exist period. It's just like "communism" and "socialism", yet another scary word trotted out by the right. I also find it highly ironic that ppl like Ben and proponents of cancelling "CRT" talk about the divide that CRT is forming in the country but they are doing the exact same thing. Hustlers on both sides.
@CMDraper
@CMDraper 2 жыл бұрын
This entire exchange says more about Maher's audience than anything else.
@Energine1
@Energine1 2 жыл бұрын
Very good point sir thank you.
@MrMcmatto
@MrMcmatto 2 жыл бұрын
I think it shows how out of his depth Ben Shapiro is
@0ntimetaiment921
@0ntimetaiment921 2 жыл бұрын
That's like very episode. The show often has the vibes of toddlers watching a quantum physics lecture. The audience seems to have no clue what's going on, but clap when they hear a word they like.
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
ya
@sazonswaggreviews4449
@sazonswaggreviews4449 2 жыл бұрын
Super left !!
@LimpWrizkit
@LimpWrizkit Жыл бұрын
I love the part when the crowd gets uncomfortable and goes dead silent once they find out that Mahar is on shapiro's side.
@transphotography
@transphotography Жыл бұрын
Except… Maher wasn’t on Shapiro’s side.
@LimpWrizkit
@LimpWrizkit Жыл бұрын
​@@transphotography except the fact that he was arguing Malcom Nance and not Ben Shapiro and actually defending Shapiro's stance. I, like the majority of other in this comments sections, have all noticed the crowd shift tone and hesitate to clap for Nance once Mahar's opinion was brought to the table. The amount of awkward tension in that room was palpable. That's why this clip exists in the first place.
@jacobfromallstate4963
@jacobfromallstate4963 10 ай бұрын
​@@transphotographydid we watch the same video? Maher was 100% on Ben's side.
@waduhek3988
@waduhek3988 7 ай бұрын
@@transphotographyi think you’re delusional
@Christan_Moreno
@Christan_Moreno 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. They totally backed the wrong horse.
@micahott1859
@micahott1859 11 ай бұрын
I love it. every time they start insulting people, it means they lost the debate.
@jimmy2k4o
@jimmy2k4o 10 ай бұрын
Correction when they resort to ONLY insulting people…….. Some people insult you while winning the debate.
@Qp12333
@Qp12333 9 ай бұрын
If you can’t argue the points or rebuttal with valid counter points and you result to insulting you always lose the debate and that’s what happen in the video
@crazytrain848
@crazytrain848 6 ай бұрын
Or they’ve had enough with the bs. I love it when they’re so desparate their only argument is “I sleep on a bed of money” lol
@TheHominidShow
@TheHominidShow 4 ай бұрын
​@@crazytrain848that wasn't even close to being his only argument. That was one throw away comment. If you honestly think it was his only argument, or even that he said that as an argument, I suggest you don't watching videos like this until you've retaken all school.
@cinemaconnosseur
@cinemaconnosseur 4 ай бұрын
@@jimmy2k4o Nance clearly won. A rarity. Nance literally shut Shapiro down and Ben was defeated and knew it when he claimed he was confused, Nance's virus remark was the winning point Ben couldn't counter.
@jessewilson-music
@jessewilson-music 2 жыл бұрын
Here's what I just learned: when you've got cheerleaders in your corner, you dont need a substantive argument. You can essentially just point and laugh and you're golden.
@BottleConcreteBlond
@BottleConcreteBlond 2 жыл бұрын
That's the secret of Bill Maher's success.
@bjmurrey
@bjmurrey 2 жыл бұрын
jesse my friend, don't pick on the audience - they are just clapping because the producer lit the signs that said "applause" and "laughter" ;)
@metasploited5790
@metasploited5790 2 жыл бұрын
I think that aligns with the Fox theory mentioned, too xD
@mrichardmoore
@mrichardmoore 2 жыл бұрын
Still kind of weird seeing Maher or anybody for that matter be such a cheerleader for Shapiro
@jcli1829
@jcli1829 2 жыл бұрын
Thays what Democrats do.
@jbulletc
@jbulletc 2 жыл бұрын
"When the debate is over, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
malcom the loser
@lProN00bl
@lProN00bl 2 жыл бұрын
That why Ben had to brag about being rich lol?
@anneflynn9614
@anneflynn9614 2 жыл бұрын
That has certainly been my experience.
@lProN00bl
@lProN00bl 2 жыл бұрын
You're right. "I sleep on a pile of money" Ben shouldn't lie about himself lol XD
@sudeepjoseph69
@sudeepjoseph69 2 жыл бұрын
Pron00b, malcom was being so annoying the whole debate. You can't get mad at Ben for snapping. If I was there I would have gotten angry much earlier.
@Wondermind25
@Wondermind25 Жыл бұрын
wow, I've never seen a living troll in my entire life, thanks for showing yourself Malcolm 👏🏽
@shanilemeow2942
@shanilemeow2942 3 ай бұрын
You are joking, he was a clown
@TJRymer89
@TJRymer89 5 ай бұрын
Malcolm is a great example of why a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
@AchOwed
@AchOwed 4 ай бұрын
I'm sure you meant a great example of knowledge and proper context, as opposed to quoting an article about liberals taking Fox Newa as truth, whatever that means.
@ThePurpleButterfly21-ie7ve
@ThePurpleButterfly21-ie7ve 4 ай бұрын
​@@AchOwed Malcolm is another populistic moron who twist the truth to fit his ideals. It's ridiculous seeing someone like Ben debate an ignorant idiot.
@mikeklpp9360
@mikeklpp9360 3 ай бұрын
Malcolm brought a spit ball and a straw to a duel😂😂
@AntiFurrybruh
@AntiFurrybruh 2 ай бұрын
Bruh thinks he's Malcolm X, he isn't.
@hunterkujava2197
@hunterkujava2197 2 жыл бұрын
“When there is debate, slander becomes the tool of the loser” -Socrates
@kaleboogahboogah624
@kaleboogahboogah624 2 жыл бұрын
FACTSSS
@docterwithane8300
@docterwithane8300 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute facts
@SamSung-pf5zw
@SamSung-pf5zw 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Shapiro is definitely a loser.
@unclesamuelkaingata9749
@unclesamuelkaingata9749 2 жыл бұрын
Saying to someone that you believe their arguing technique sucks... isn't slander. In fact, no one slandered anyone in this video so I'm not sure how this was even relevant.
@commonsense9848
@commonsense9848 2 жыл бұрын
@@unclesamuelkaingata9749 Slander might be a stretch in this case.. but all the black gentlemen did was throw out propaganda & assumptions based on his opinions without actually debated anything while playing the crowd psychologically better than a carny leader playing up momentum.
@seanmarshall5463
@seanmarshall5463 2 жыл бұрын
Just remember, if your opponent stops presenting counter points and starts throwing insults without you ever insulting them, you’ve won the argument.
@dr.christopherdiaz4473
@dr.christopherdiaz4473 2 жыл бұрын
That means I’ve won a LOT of arguments I’ve made for progressive policies against conservatives. Thanks.
@seanmarshall5463
@seanmarshall5463 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.christopherdiaz4473 Careful, you’re showing your highly skewed internal bias
@ladistar
@ladistar 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.christopherdiaz4473 lol there isn’t a single good cause for any progressive policy. At all. It’s all bullshit baked in racism and victim mentality. Name a single issue where progressive politics is superior to conservatism. I’ll wait.
@dlomane1965
@dlomane1965 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO, NOT. In this case, Ben looked like a complete idiot and Malcolm SAW this and used it to HIS advantage. Ben bit the bait and almost lost it.
@seanmarshall5463
@seanmarshall5463 2 жыл бұрын
@@dlomane1965 I never said who lost or won, or who insulted who. So the fact that you immediately defended Malcolm exposes the fact that he must have been the one who stopped presenting counter points and started throwing insults otherwise you wouldn’t feel the need to defend him. By arguing you have actually proven that according to the premise I put forth Malcolm lost the argument.
@alcazar123456
@alcazar123456 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm was a career administrative worker in the navy masquerading as a war hero. The guy has never seen combat no matter how much he wants you to think he has.
@bslay6968
@bslay6968 Жыл бұрын
Come across a lot of people like that in the navy 😂
@boni_slinger
@boni_slinger Жыл бұрын
Well.. turns out you're the worst kind of liar
@ellaapodaca2620
@ellaapodaca2620 11 ай бұрын
My husband spent 22 years in the Navy and never saw war. He prepared for war every single day. Myself and my two boys were shipped around the United States for 22 years defending this country for the potential of war. I'm not sure your comment has any value to it. My two sons are now serving in different branches of the military and I hope they don't see war.
@alcazar123456
@alcazar123456 11 ай бұрын
@@ellaapodaca2620 Did your husband misrepresent himself as someone who did? No one should want to see war but Malcolm uses the weight of experiences he hasn’t gone through to try and get people to trust his beliefs.
@ellaapodaca2620
@ellaapodaca2620 11 ай бұрын
@@alcazar123456 I completely agree with you. But both sides do this if we want to be honest about it. You can't go a day without watching Fox News without seeing some Navy SEAL on their doing the same thing.
@ThePastaManCan
@ThePastaManCan 7 ай бұрын
"yeah you're easily confused" 2 years later and none of us know wtf Malcom was talking about or why he was clapped.
@gauravkaushal7180
@gauravkaushal7180 2 жыл бұрын
"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person."
@MrHamtits
@MrHamtits 2 жыл бұрын
Shappee is the stupid one right ?
@DJBentzyOfficial
@DJBentzyOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@moniqueloomis9772
@moniqueloomis9772 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHamtits God, one would think. I can't stand his voice.
@ascarmen42
@ascarmen42 2 жыл бұрын
@@moniqueloomis9772 How does his voice equate to how smart and well articulate he is?
@SolidSiren
@SolidSiren 2 жыл бұрын
@@moniqueloomis9772 No one can stand his voice but that has nothing to do with the discussion.
@devynbrinsfield
@devynbrinsfield 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the crowd can so easily contradict themselves with a round of applause.
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
ya
@chrischris5510
@chrischris5510 2 жыл бұрын
Seemingly.. could also be a crowd mixed with some conservatives and some shit heads. Or whatever we call them these days. The they thems. Lol
@devynbrinsfield
@devynbrinsfield 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrischris5510 i thought about that for a second but realized well Shapiro didn’t get a single clap when he made a point so there are probably no conservatives in that group LOL.
@mikehawk8361
@mikehawk8361 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrischris5510 lmao why am i not surprised chris chan is a republican
@devynbrinsfield
@devynbrinsfield 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikehawk8361 hey bro that’s a sick name
@TruthWiz
@TruthWiz 11 ай бұрын
Malcolm and the audience are engaged in tribal warfare, while Ben is actually attempting to debate the actual issues at hand.
@jaypandya7441
@jaypandya7441 11 ай бұрын
The difference between barbarism and pure class
@dthomas9230
@dthomas9230 8 ай бұрын
@@jaypandya7441 Shapiro seeks a L bertarian A narcho- S yndicalist T heocratic version of America.He was screaming over "Barbie" the movie, but it set records proving a demand economy is best for Capitalist societies, not tickle down propaganda.
@a.ghostwriter
@a.ghostwriter 7 ай бұрын
Well, debating the actual issues is part of systemic, inherent racism built into the white-male patriarchy...just like math. Just clap for the person accusing the "Republican Right" of doing something nefarious. Before we know it, the U.S. will be growing crops with Gatorade and swearing in President Camacho.
@SergMilli
@SergMilli 6 ай бұрын
@@jaypandya7441 Or the difference between oppression deniers and the oppressed. Kinda ironic that Shapiro would take this stand considering what his people are going through today...
@DaveLittleEpic
@DaveLittleEpic Жыл бұрын
When you have to play the "it sucks" card in a debate, you know you are out of ideas.
@SparkleKnits
@SparkleKnits 2 жыл бұрын
That was embarrassing. Holy shit. Bill, please go to an audience-free show. We will all thank you.
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
ya
@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH
@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH 2 жыл бұрын
Benny shapino: America first is racist 🤣
@personguy7880
@personguy7880 2 жыл бұрын
He did that before but kept getting killed in debates😂
@basicpianotutorial
@basicpianotutorial 2 жыл бұрын
The audience are sheep 🐑
@morticias5043
@morticias5043 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was a laughter track
@johnjones4426
@johnjones4426 2 жыл бұрын
“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.”
@BHygh-kx5jw
@BHygh-kx5jw 2 жыл бұрын
The smarter person won the argument
@paulmurphy5244
@paulmurphy5244 2 жыл бұрын
"We're all very different people! We're not Watusi...... We're not Spartins!! We're Americans!!!" - Bill Murray
@matthiasnickerson
@matthiasnickerson 2 жыл бұрын
I’m able to win an argument with a stupid person. I make them feel even dumber through the use of comedy. I do it on Twitter all the time.
@rasadams9034
@rasadams9034 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah ?! "Quoting famous people quote, makes me look smart." - Albert Einstein.
@paulmurphy5244
@paulmurphy5244 2 жыл бұрын
@@rasadams9034 Not in your case!
@mattcohen4960
@mattcohen4960 11 ай бұрын
Personal attacks and belittling laughter seem to be the most common defense to a lack of logical response in debate
@nigachu8249
@nigachu8249 2 ай бұрын
Liberals.
@gfcancio
@gfcancio 5 ай бұрын
Malcolm's change in tone when he realized Bill wasn't on his side should be taught in debate class.
@jtopcatz
@jtopcatz 2 жыл бұрын
“Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” Mark Twain
@MacenW
@MacenW 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something my dad used to say: don’t hang out with idiots, because if you’re smarter than them they’ll stoop you down to their level.
@cassiemunga1
@cassiemunga1 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Thanks for the reminder
@FrancoTrev
@FrancoTrev 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain I agree but Ben Shapiro “ I will be laying in a bed with money “ Lmfao 🤣
@anthonymusto3537
@anthonymusto3537 2 жыл бұрын
Nance took a n L on this one!
@rabbitphobia
@rabbitphobia 2 жыл бұрын
@@MacenW My dad used to say if you walk with a donkey you can only become one and if you walk with a cripple.... and so on. Simple basic theories yet very true.
@roomate00
@roomate00 2 жыл бұрын
Ben: *Makes arguement* Malcolm: that's what yo mama said last night Audience: *cheers*
@sorrito7
@sorrito7 2 жыл бұрын
😂 this is so hilarious cause I imagined him actually saying the yo mama joke
@OsiAleogena
@OsiAleogena 2 жыл бұрын
@Nunya Biz A decent debate or conversation takes place when two people come to discuss in good faith. Ben gave an impartial definition of CRT. Contrary to what the moderator asked, Nance gave no definition, dishonestly called it history and went on a mindless and condescending rant throwing jabs at someone who addressed him respectfully. Even Maher had to call him out for lying that CRT is history and that Ben called CRT bullshit. You're just as dishonest as Nance for saying someone has his head up anybody's ass when you're the one with your head up CNN and Joe Biden's ass because you've convinced yourself you're always right and everybody else is always wrong. Look at what everyone in the comments is saying and ask yourself why you're so stupid.
@tacoconch7678
@tacoconch7678 2 жыл бұрын
@Nunya Biz You used the word, "literally" in a situation that in no remote way called for it. As if there was a figurative way to interpret, "made great points". No one should take you or your comments seriously.
@tacoconch7678
@tacoconch7678 2 жыл бұрын
@Nunya Biz Now that I think about it, he could have been making pointy objects during the debate. But that makes your comment even dumber. lol
@sinabagherisarvestani8924
@sinabagherisarvestani8924 2 жыл бұрын
well Malcolm Nance definitely won this one
@ronaldacevedo4463
@ronaldacevedo4463 Жыл бұрын
When the guy youre debating is smarter than you and knows what he’s talking about about, and you turn in a 12 year old and attacking him personally
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 11 ай бұрын
I don't always agree with Bill Maher, but he's grounded in reality that neither side seems to want to acknowledge and you gotta respect that he challenges your ideas that rip you right out of that echo chamber bubble.
@archisman4165
@archisman4165 2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm: "A week has 7 days." Audience:"Wow!!! Impressive!! We didn't know.....let's clap 👏👏"
@purdysanchez
@purdysanchez 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it was more like: Malcom: "Red crayons taste the best" Audience: *thunderous applause*
@anthony452
@anthony452 2 жыл бұрын
More like "the week has ten days".
@tuticobercini
@tuticobercini 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 Exactly!
@mikeykanstenpoyy6523
@mikeykanstenpoyy6523 2 жыл бұрын
Shows the iq of the audience…. “Theyre not bringing their best” as the don would say 🤣🤣😭😭
@gerk7238
@gerk7238 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree with some of Shapiro’s antics and statements but the audience are sheep Clapping at the cartoonish nance
@ethanb2554
@ethanb2554 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao the fact that Bill Maher's audiences doesn't know when to clap anymore
@MaybeNextTime0
@MaybeNextTime0 2 жыл бұрын
The bots haven't received a firmware update in a while, and it's showing.
@Any1SL
@Any1SL 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah very obvious
@peninsulageneralgoodsstore
@peninsulageneralgoodsstore 2 жыл бұрын
The controller of the canned laughter and clapping was a bit off that day.
@liberal3
@liberal3 2 жыл бұрын
Hitch would have been happy
@jocksharerock7318
@jocksharerock7318 2 жыл бұрын
Dwayne D Malcolm is correct. There isn’t a problem regarding critical race theory, only freaking out by conservatives as if there is.
@Converterguy
@Converterguy 6 ай бұрын
A white guy, a black guy, and a jew walked into a bar. They all sat down and ordered a drink. The black guy was mad because his great, great grandfather didn't get one.
@Kavi_Sedai
@Kavi_Sedai 11 ай бұрын
Ben is brilliant
@evinco6954
@evinco6954 2 ай бұрын
💯
@hidan9402
@hidan9402 2 жыл бұрын
It's scary when the crowd is cheering over dumb rhetoric.
@georgetarbutton8752
@georgetarbutton8752 2 жыл бұрын
That's is because they are the zombies!!!! Get ready for the zombie apocalypse!!!!!
@kelvinmack7104
@kelvinmack7104 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgetarbutton8752 you sound like you were part of the Insurrection on January 6th
@valentinfranco6396
@valentinfranco6396 2 жыл бұрын
I agree… But let’s be honest they did it at the Trump debates. All he did was take a page out of President Trump‘s book… A stupid page… because I completely agree with Ben. And I’m a huge fan of Ben for his well thought out arguments and points of view. The thing is I look at Ben and Bill and if all of our government was more like them then things could get done… Because they understand that it’s not about sabotaging the other… You can come to a logical consensus
@danaellis3861
@danaellis3861 2 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinmack7104 "insurrection" lmao
@darnelldinkins77
@darnelldinkins77 2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinfranco6396 Logical consensus is a foreign concept these days
@benderr424
@benderr424 2 жыл бұрын
They clapped for Malcolm saying “I agree with everything he said” Yet they didn’t clap for Ben for laying down the definition lol That should tell you something about the audience… or society
@nyceflix
@nyceflix 2 жыл бұрын
Many of the comments share your opinion, so let me break it down. He says, yes I agree, because the basis of your thesis is true and the system is stacked.
@drakke125Channel
@drakke125Channel 2 жыл бұрын
they have the same attitude as Bill Maher who may criticize their own people (radical left) but still would rather the economy of our country crash just so Trump is out of office. Well they got their wish.
@Avenging_Archer
@Avenging_Archer 2 жыл бұрын
@@nyceflix It's not "his" thesis, he simply defined what CRT is according both to it's own authors and to Malcolm himself, and Malcolm agreed with that definition. Then when pressed he tried to redefine CRT as 'teaching history'. Bottom line CRT is bullshit.
@cheryllwaldrop9732
@cheryllwaldrop9732 2 жыл бұрын
They were waiting to be told what to think.
@ligmaballz1
@ligmaballz1 2 жыл бұрын
great point
@chengomen7938
@chengomen7938 Жыл бұрын
Malcom nance is seasoned with years of the English language. But comes to the table with a smile and a demeaning angle with maturity n facts 180 degrees behind.
@justinwilliams1127
@justinwilliams1127 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Nance was so lovely. Every smug eye roll and cutting off of both of the other men at the table was so polite. With how well he dodged some of these questions, he will most definitely be a presidential candidate one of these day based on how easily the audience falls for his bait.
@rebeccacoleman8338
@rebeccacoleman8338 Жыл бұрын
Did we just watch the same debate? 😅 .. he had no proper argument on actually anything...then some manipulating tactic to bang on about his grand daddy...nauseating..and PS when you start insulting your opponent you've lost the debate.. your a poor arguer and have nothing concrete to talk about. Ben was kind jordan Peterson would of ripped him.apart..
@kalejones394
@kalejones394 11 ай бұрын
@@rebeccacoleman8338smh oh my this went wayyyyy over your head
@NowaboMusic
@NowaboMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Malcom went from AGREEING with Ben's definition of Critical Race Theory, to saying that the definition had been co-opted by the right and twisted into something it isn't. The double-speak is strong with this one.
@particleman5893
@particleman5893 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a right winger, but while the left is insane, the right is stupid, and most asshats do in fact get it wrong. Ben gives a good, real definition of CRT here. It is monstrous, and what's beautiful is that the CRT goblin publicly endorses it shamelessly. He says out loud that under CRT, the existence of a disparity, by itself, is evidence that said disparity is caused by discrimination. This is transparently retarded. Newton saw an apple move from a tree to the ground; saying that the existence of the movement is evidence that a force called gravity caused the apple to fall is as logical as saying that the existence of the movement is evidence that aliens caused the apple to fall; better evidence is needed and this is a dogshit epistemic standard. CRT scholars never actually do the research to show that this is the case. They'll just point to something like an income gap, and point to all sorts of statistics on outcome differences, but never give proper evidence that discrimination is to blame because they're operating on a perverted version of critical theory which has descended into relativism.
@lowgs4659
@lowgs4659 2 жыл бұрын
@@particleman5893 this comment is gold, the Newton analogy had me dying lmao, had to give credit where it due
@patrickjensen9283
@patrickjensen9283 2 жыл бұрын
No, he went from agreeing and over to say that it is true. Malcom then lists reasons why he thinks the theory holds merit. Ben does not think the theory holds any merit.
@NowaboMusic
@NowaboMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickjensen9283 Ban said the theory is that every institution in America TODAY is racist. Malcolm agreed. Ben said we should not teach that. Malcolm said "what? We shouldn't teach history?" A theory about today is not the same as history.
@lowgs4659
@lowgs4659 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickjensen9283 bro did you even watch the video?
@darrelcurry9882
@darrelcurry9882 2 жыл бұрын
You know you're debating an ignorant, unprepared individual when their only response is to laugh or smile and insult you. This guy was pathetic. 🤣🤣🤣
@josephstone3769
@josephstone3769 2 жыл бұрын
And try to use controversial statements and phrases like defund the police and “viruses”. The crowd just clapped and clapped because they heard those things 😂 bunch of sheep man idk anymore
@patrickmulroney9452
@patrickmulroney9452 2 жыл бұрын
shapiro acted like a pouting child
@MrCorns123
@MrCorns123 2 жыл бұрын
* as he uses laugh/smile emoji whilst insulting him. (Maybe prepare better next time and not be so ignorant?)
@jeremiahkerry
@jeremiahkerry 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmulroney9452 That is because he is the size of a pouting child!
@Kaboomboo
@Kaboomboo 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmulroney9452 you're proving the OPs point
@mickelsie5461
@mickelsie5461 Жыл бұрын
The audience just destroys all good things about this debate as they just cheer and clap for anything that sounds good. Malcolm accuses Ben of something that he has never said, and the audience goes crazy because it sounded great
@qsxzx5635
@qsxzx5635 11 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the SpongeBob scene where the crowd claps for SpongeBob and is silent for Squidward.
@desiderata731
@desiderata731 2 жыл бұрын
"Do you have merit or not Malcom" "Well you know my great great grandfather" I laughed.
@cheryllwaldrop9732
@cheryllwaldrop9732 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was pretty pathetic. You can tell the only thing he did to prepare for the debate was plan to tell that story, or he would have waited for a logical time to tell it, but all he could do was avoid question, deflect with anecdote, hurl unfounded slander. And you can tell someone is down there with an applause sign for the audience, telling them when to react. Pitiful.
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
ya
@mania4270
@mania4270 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheryllwaldrop9732 your just mad he smashed ben. Hahaha
@lane5911
@lane5911 2 жыл бұрын
Yes - what a fool Malcom is.
@jesterpoker
@jesterpoker 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn 2 жыл бұрын
I think even Bill is starting to think his audience is nuts. 🥜
@mogar5764
@mogar5764 2 жыл бұрын
you mean people are waking up? the leftist wave in bound. bet in a few years america will have socialized medicine.
@trebberzings676
@trebberzings676 2 жыл бұрын
@@mogar5764 If this is waking up, they must have gotten an hour of sleep last night.
@mogar5764
@mogar5764 2 жыл бұрын
@@trebberzings676 where do you get your news? what is your defintion of CRT?
@trebberzings676
@trebberzings676 2 жыл бұрын
@@mogar5764 I get my news from a wide array of sites. Left, right, small, large. I like to have every angle I can get so that I can formulate my own opinion. I'm more of a moderate, I wouldn't even say left or right leaning. But it's pretty apparent, even to most leftists, that CRT is a pretty bogus teaching. You ask me what the definition of CRT is like I wouldn't know? It's exactly what Ben said in this video, which is, in turn, exactly what Nance agreed with.
@xaea12musk42
@xaea12musk42 2 жыл бұрын
@@trebberzings676 lmao the enlightened centrist. i don't see many leftists here.
@wazgood100
@wazgood100 3 күн бұрын
“I will comfort myself tonight by sleeping on my bed made of money!!” Yo Shapiro is a straight savage for that!
@dannyjeffers
@dannyjeffers 8 ай бұрын
Malcolm reminds me of queen Latifa's character in 30 rock just going totally off topic in order to get applause lol
@davivu
@davivu 2 жыл бұрын
In the world of debate you know you’ve won when your opponent starts relying on insults rather than substance.
@mannyv99
@mannyv99 2 жыл бұрын
love how ben stood his ground to that. much respect for him
@Mr._Moderate
@Mr._Moderate 2 жыл бұрын
@@mannyv99 assuming that something is an "out-growth" of CRT is NOT standing your ground.
@mannyv99
@mannyv99 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate he never assumed tho, he was just laying out facts.
@Mr._Moderate
@Mr._Moderate 2 жыл бұрын
@@mannyv99 CRT is a button issue now that just about anything can be an "outgrowth" of CRT. Doesn't mean it is though. It's more plausible that it's linked to economics and/or politics it's not factual just because Shapiro said it
@jeffarnold3800
@jeffarnold3800 2 жыл бұрын
@@mannyv99 bed made of money
@nateyoder9372
@nateyoder9372 2 жыл бұрын
“ it’s odd that you criticize the meritocracy for being racist when you have done extremely well in it.” (Silence) “My great granddaddy was a slave” (Applause)
@Poraqui
@Poraqui 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@chavang3699
@chavang3699 2 жыл бұрын
100. The audience only wants to listen to what they want to hear.
@bumblebeethoughts9753
@bumblebeethoughts9753 2 жыл бұрын
YES!! That guy is a joke. The scary part is an entire crowd soaking it up.
@greenberret60
@greenberret60 2 жыл бұрын
Yupe. Sums it up pretty well right there
@garrettchapman8170
@garrettchapman8170 2 жыл бұрын
Ya for real
@brianbroos6546
@brianbroos6546 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm- “I’ll pay you $100 to come to a debate and clap at whatever I say!”
@thanosmaster-abel559
@thanosmaster-abel559 2 күн бұрын
I skipped to 3:40 and bro is talking about his grandpa fighting in the civil war 💀😭
@nottinghamboy9409
@nottinghamboy9409 2 жыл бұрын
Malcom coughing (audience claps) malcom rolls his eyes (audience claps) Malcom disagreement with Ben (they clap) Ben's comeback ( not a sound)....... Respect to shapiro for going into the lions den....
@lanesniffin730
@lanesniffin730 2 жыл бұрын
“Lions den” leftists have no critical thinking skills😂😂headed into the sheep den
@jamesandgames7567
@jamesandgames7567 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly... with out the leftest crowd and Malcolm talking about his 4 generation grandpa...I don’t care America now anyone can go make regarded of any color..I grew up white in a all black neighborhood and was poor compared to allot in my community.....Ben would tear him up with out crowd
@bender9222222222
@bender9222222222 2 жыл бұрын
Yall outta your mind if you think Bill maher is a lefty. He's a corperate hack neolib.
@erickglo436
@erickglo436 2 жыл бұрын
@@bender9222222222 talking about the audience
@FAITHandLOGIC
@FAITHandLOGIC 2 жыл бұрын
Because lefties are nothing more than circus seals
@expo.productions1676
@expo.productions1676 2 жыл бұрын
I love how no one really clapped when Mr. Shapiro did his segment but as soon as Malcom says "I agree with that" everyone claps. Bruh moment.
@MrHamtits
@MrHamtits 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Shap is a moeron
@expo.productions1676
@expo.productions1676 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHamtits he’s a real sharp guy.
@user-vc8tw9tn9k
@user-vc8tw9tn9k 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHamtits "moeron", by the way.
@tonymontana2340
@tonymontana2340 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because Maher’s main base agrees more with Malcolm then Ben so they’re going to cheer for him.
@arladeveze84
@arladeveze84 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were applauding at "at last some fucking peace". I know I would.
@nandocosta2031
@nandocosta2031 Жыл бұрын
Michael Nance proved himself a non serious person, and that is being polite.
@GhostReaper555
@GhostReaper555 4 ай бұрын
I love it when Ben roast someone so much and then they continue to start to making stuff up
@purdysanchez
@purdysanchez 2 жыл бұрын
Bill: "Both of you explain CRT" Ben: *explains CRT* Malcom: *launches into unrelated rant*
@NA-bn9er
@NA-bn9er 2 жыл бұрын
Now if only Shapiro will admit on his own channel that CRT ISN’T being taught in America.
@bender9222222222
@bender9222222222 2 жыл бұрын
Stay salty brother. 🤣
@SoggySlopster
@SoggySlopster 2 жыл бұрын
Thats democrats for you. Most have room temperature IQs
@AE-bm4no
@AE-bm4no 2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm explicitly said he agrees with classical CRT but that the right hijacked the term so they could air brush history. It's a shame you didn't notice.
@purdysanchez
@purdysanchez 2 жыл бұрын
@@NA-bn9er, if your school focuses on the application and practice of a theory it's not fair to say they teach the theory? I get that there's a bit of semantics in this debate, but it's not like opponents are misrepresenting CRT.
@purknation
@purknation 2 жыл бұрын
The crowd is so biased. Only clapped for Malcolm even when he literally had no argument with substance. You can tell even Bill was peeved.
@tmy727
@tmy727 2 жыл бұрын
This crowd are probably the same morons saying that this Biden administration is doing a great job.🤦‍♂️
@ingridrodriguez4936
@ingridrodriguez4936 2 жыл бұрын
You got that right . I wish the cameras will have turn towards the audience and see the people who were clapping only for Maicon...... my assumption will be pretty accurate of the type of audience that was there..... isn’t Malcom??
@sleeplessdev7204
@sleeplessdev7204 2 жыл бұрын
I heard claps for both of them
@fm32047
@fm32047 2 жыл бұрын
because theyre told when to clap. duh
@hybridyd1305
@hybridyd1305 2 жыл бұрын
They edit in the clapping and laughter after the fact.
@meganmbleed
@meganmbleed 5 ай бұрын
Holy shit, this Malcolm guy is nuts, straight up bananas 😂😂😂😂
@PrisonDead2024
@PrisonDead2024 11 ай бұрын
Me: *taking a very important test* 3:01 my last two braincells arguing about a pointless thing that happened hours ago
@elwatcho5629
@elwatcho5629 Жыл бұрын
Ben giving an argument.* Malcolm - "Virus?" Audience: "Applause." WTF is this lmao.
@FormulaVase-kp3dc
@FormulaVase-kp3dc Жыл бұрын
It's called herd mentality
@stack3r
@stack3r Жыл бұрын
This is the woke left. Absolute idiocracy.
@chillingguy8386
@chillingguy8386 Жыл бұрын
The worst part of the show is the audience.
@SgtSteel1
@SgtSteel1 Жыл бұрын
@El Watcho The audience is a result of the public education system
@hadamerryweather577
@hadamerryweather577 Жыл бұрын
Even Bill comments on the quality of studio audience he gets. Often teasing them for not keeping up. Often people who just got off a tourist bus?
@simonkim7310
@simonkim7310 2 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from Ben and Malcolm. One sounds well informed and intelligent. The other showed what to do when you have no valid arguments to make.
@mikeprado4381
@mikeprado4381 2 жыл бұрын
Or what not to do.
@jerudella8236
@jerudella8236 2 жыл бұрын
Sounding and being intelligent are two different things.
@apm9151
@apm9151 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerudella8236 Exactly… Saying things that a dumb audience will applaud for is just sounding
@costco_pizza
@costco_pizza 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, Malcolm Nance is the one who had no valid arguments. I felt so sorry for Ben having the share time with this fringe lunatic. Sigh…
@ruchic183
@ruchic183 2 жыл бұрын
@@costco_pizza I agree. Ben started a very good discussion, but was countered by childlike tactics and no valid argument.
@ManDom878
@ManDom878 4 ай бұрын
When someone is wrong and can't just humbly say "ah okay, I see your point"...they resort to insults and poking fun at their debate opponent to save face. Malcolm is doing this all over the conversation.
@CCAPPS2K
@CCAPPS2K Жыл бұрын
There is a reoccurring theme with these debate videos and it’s that one person has to fall back on personally attacking someone because they aren’t actually good at arguing their side.
@jaredkusz978
@jaredkusz978 2 жыл бұрын
Ben: "I think this." Audience: SILENT Malcolm: "I agree with Ben." Audience: APPLAUSE!
@Twysthor
@Twysthor 2 жыл бұрын
Literal sheep 😂
@DavidRodriguez-er4rq
@DavidRodriguez-er4rq 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Critical race theory to Malcolm appears to mean spouting out horrible racial history that we all know about and this is the reason for blacks being held down. He's blaming this all on race which in reality there are varied and more deeper issues. The crowd are just as ignorant or purposely deniers of of all the other reasons. Even Malcolm realizes he's wrong by the look on his face but his chip on the shoulder or grudge prevents him from admitting it. The problem with this is that people he has influence over, predominantly black Americans, will believe the same thing and make everything about race thereby preventing them from putting out efforts to change their life situation. Merits will be meaningless. This crowd needs to listen to Candace Owen
@josephpoe7057
@josephpoe7057 2 жыл бұрын
Cuz it's all stages America is trying to turn white ppl into a villainous group as a whole and the sad part is many ppl are falling fir it 🤦‍♂️
@ivanthompson2406
@ivanthompson2406 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidRodriguez-er4rq By all means,. Please explain exactly what those other varied and deeper issues are that you believe attribute to the uneven playing field that so called black and brown people who were disadvantaged by history of slavery that didn't materialize because of those " horrible racial historical facts that you say we all know about. And while you're explaining, demonstrate factually and historically how those other varied and deeper issues have no connection to race and to the historical enslavement of our ancestors,... and we, their descendants today. We've got time and We'll wait patiently for your explanation. Remember,... post your factual justifications proving your supposed point.
@ivanthompson2406
@ivanthompson2406 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidRodriguez-er4rq Oh and by the way,... Perhaps you'd be better off if you didn't ascribe to the idiocy of Candace Owen's,...since she couldn't factually separate the historical enslavement if her people from the disadvantaged positions that our so called black and brown people are in today! Candace Owens realized that she could monetize comforting so called white folks by saying things that you folks want to hear, as long as what she said held your nation blameless and unaccountable to the horrors of your history against us, so she just panders to people like you and those who only want to remain guilt free and comfortable in their being cognitively dissonant from the painful truth of America's horrible history and the divide that was birthed from it! Bring on that Explanation David!
@SlickBlackCadillac
@SlickBlackCadillac 2 жыл бұрын
When you start attacking the person, and not their argument, that is when you have officially LOST
@MustafaDarwiche
@MustafaDarwiche 2 жыл бұрын
I always tell others this, when they start insulting the argument is out the window
@bender9222222222
@bender9222222222 2 жыл бұрын
I would agree to an extent, but Ben's history of ridiculous statements against minority groups do point to a larger problem.
@gordonbgraham
@gordonbgraham 2 жыл бұрын
@@bender9222222222 "Ben" is irrelevant to the issue they're discussing.
@jamescapps5112
@jamescapps5112 2 жыл бұрын
He just kept derailing the conversation and changing the subject if possible (talking about the virus when he brought up Fox News)
@bender9222222222
@bender9222222222 2 жыл бұрын
@@gordonbgraham why is Ben in quotes here. Is it not really ben?
@crystalmystique80
@crystalmystique80 Жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro's voice is like Rebecca Black if she was missing a frontal lobe.
@bergthe89th12
@bergthe89th12 4 ай бұрын
When your opponent starts insulting you , you already won the debate.
@InfiniteQuest86
@InfiniteQuest86 2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a man make such a fool of himself on tv. And then to my shock and awe, he was applauded for it.
@TheGermanBeefhammer
@TheGermanBeefhammer 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't hear an applause for shapiro?
@wildandcrazyevents4513
@wildandcrazyevents4513 2 жыл бұрын
I know right, Ben always finds a way to fuck up...
@galucastro5972
@galucastro5972 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGermanBeefhammer well what does that tell you genius? You’re definitely one of those in the crowd clapping at nonsense 🤦🏽‍♂️
@AN-jw2oe
@AN-jw2oe 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, only Malcolm was applauded, not on the merit of his points but because of the emotion what he said evokes. That is the power of propaganda through the public school system and mainstream legacy media-mass brainwashing!
@wildandcrazyevents4513
@wildandcrazyevents4513 2 жыл бұрын
@@AN-jw2oe what's the propaganda and bullshit spread in churches called?
@codebloke2200
@codebloke2200 2 жыл бұрын
Ben: describes CRT as dividing people in oppressed and oppressor Malcolm : I agree with everything Ben just said Bill : If its about dividing people into oppressed and oppressor; then I'm not for that Malcolm : I don't think that's what CRT means
@caprisunpapiiiiiiiii8296
@caprisunpapiiiiiiiii8296 2 жыл бұрын
CRT is a legal theory they study in in law school lmao to say it’s sole purpose is to divide people up is a pretty autistic way of thinking. Just being honest.
@lawrencetalbot8346
@lawrencetalbot8346 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody said Black people are smart, and Malcolm proved it!!!
@sabastian3022
@sabastian3022 2 жыл бұрын
@@caprisunpapiiiiiiiii8296 has nothing to do with with dividing people it’s just a lens you can use to analyze history from a racial POV. It also leads to certain socio political beliefs buts it’s not “dividing people up” or whatever dumb shit you said
@ExpressiveBeats
@ExpressiveBeats 2 жыл бұрын
When he said he agreed and the audience applauded... he agreed that the ending of racial segregation was bad and just to benefit white people.. these people are absolute morons. NPC audience, worst I've seen on any of these types of talk show clips.
@caprisunpapiiiiiiiii8296
@caprisunpapiiiiiiiii8296 2 жыл бұрын
@@sabastian3022 you should reread my comment. Where exactly did I say it divides people?
@garbrls313
@garbrls313 Жыл бұрын
Ben started off by steelmanning CRT, and I thought we were going to have an adult conversation. To bad the other guy wasted the opportunity.
@briancordero7674
@briancordero7674 5 ай бұрын
I'm an African American and I agree with Bill Maher views on CRT
@bethgriffith4479
@bethgriffith4479 Жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see an actual debate with actual intelligent points, not just someone insulting someone and people cheering for it.
@miriba8608
@miriba8608 Жыл бұрын
This is what most of the debates look like in the last few years......the side with bad arguments just throw out accusations and insults. Sad to watch.
@Deadpool3E
@Deadpool3E Жыл бұрын
And yet, you're a fan of Shapiro, whose debates are nothing but echo chambers, cheers, and a lack of intelligent points when a debate does happen. Weird.
@robf8023
@robf8023 Жыл бұрын
@@Deadpool3E I think you need to watch that clip again
@TheCrackedProject
@TheCrackedProject Жыл бұрын
@@Deadpool3E imagine acting more intelligent then Shapiro just because you’re weak inside 😂
@liamnielsen1793
@liamnielsen1793 Жыл бұрын
@@Deadpool3E shapiro makes points. He retaliates when people attempt to defame his character.
@relo999
@relo999 2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm: "I agree with Ben on the definition" Also Malcolm less than 10 minutes later: "Stop trying to redefine it, it's something completely different from what I just agreed on, you idiot"
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
hehe
@carvedwood1953
@carvedwood1953 2 жыл бұрын
I think you are making the opposite point of what you intended.
@kylelampe5550
@kylelampe5550 2 жыл бұрын
right!?!?!
@undeadman7676
@undeadman7676 2 жыл бұрын
@@carvedwood1953 Ben defined the term. "Even things that are purportedly good in terms of race, so long as they uphold these broader systems- things like capitalism, or things like the meritocracy- these things are just guises for power. What this boils down to, in sort of practical terms, is any disparity equals discrimination." Nance agreed to it. Ben explained that the application of this definition would require Nance to sacrifice his own career, as he benefitted from a meritocracy which is something he agreed was a guise for white supremacy. Then Nance said "my great great grandfather didn't fight in the civil war to hear this nonsense" or something. So, no, I'm pretty sure the point Relo was making stands.
@carvedwood1953
@carvedwood1953 2 жыл бұрын
@@undeadman7676 yeah, no. Shapiro uses straw man arguments that mean nothing. Although they do a good job at convincing others that don't look at it critically.
@turkwendell6904
@turkwendell6904 Жыл бұрын
This is a good example of why Ben Shapiro comes off as smart but any of us could argue against points that are dumb
@teck6492
@teck6492 2 жыл бұрын
Malcom never once addressed anything that Ben brought up, he just started a whole different topic every single time. And he does it with such a smug smirk on his face because he’s doing it on purpose.
@slime-e3989
@slime-e3989 2 жыл бұрын
Liars always smile when they are lying and Malcolm smiled A LOT
@kyleo5275
@kyleo5275 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what i was thinking
@riverebec1
@riverebec1 2 жыл бұрын
@@slime-e3989 They also avoid eye contact and use dismissive language in order to deflect the truth bombs being lobbed in their direction.
@TheLifeOfMartin
@TheLifeOfMartin 2 жыл бұрын
and cos he has claps. he's doing it for his pride to be fluffed
@edwardkramer8738
@edwardkramer8738 2 жыл бұрын
It's bc he knows Ben is 10 times smarter than he is.
@harrybalszak7526
@harrybalszak7526 2 жыл бұрын
The very last insult Malcolm Nance threw out at Shapiro saying his show "sucks" is embarassingly immature. He has the mannerisms of a 14 year old trying to impress their juvenile friends by hurling insults at an adult of greater intellect.
@Kadegabe
@Kadegabe 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't say his show sucks he said is this what you do in your show because this sucks. He is right Ben knows that the right is using CRT to be an umbrella saying they just don't want honesty about history taught
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kadegabe wrong lefty
@CesarSanchez-wh6cy
@CesarSanchez-wh6cy 2 жыл бұрын
That part was cringe
@Kadegabe
@Kadegabe 2 жыл бұрын
@@RobertZemeckis2025 so you really think the right is concerned about a graduate school class being taught to 3rd graders? Most of their teachers wouldn't even be qualified to teach the theory.
@SculptSome
@SculptSome 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kadegabe I think the right does care what their kids are being taught in school.
@Mertaranta
@Mertaranta 10 ай бұрын
"That's Texas" And now it's way more states.
@user-fn3tn3rc2j
@user-fn3tn3rc2j 2 ай бұрын
Ben and Bill were absolutely correct in their assessment and commentary within this segment. If you’re going to teach CRT in schools, and thus be overly fixated on race, then it’s not worth teaching. Furthermore, if this is meant to be an attempt to make other non-black races feel bad over something they had no control over, then that is yet another reason to not teach CRT. I understand slavery was a horrible event in our country’s past, however, if we’re going to play the “Which Race Should You Feel Bad For” game then black people should get in line right behind Native Americans and Mesoamericans 💯
@journeyfiveonesix
@journeyfiveonesix 2 жыл бұрын
“I agree with your definition of Critical Race Theory” “That’s not critical race theory” - Malcom
@luciusweickum2808
@luciusweickum2808 2 жыл бұрын
100%. All of these comments on here bashing Malcolm have merit… but this one sums up the entire “argument” portion. Dude completely lies to try to just “say the right thing” once Bill Maher calls out how ridiculous CRT is. Epic douche, probably making more people prejudiced against blacks unfortunately.
@millamopeggyhill9290
@millamopeggyhill9290 2 жыл бұрын
Bill have a definition of crt that he did not agree with but Ben gave one that he did agree with. Simple
@journeyfiveonesix
@journeyfiveonesix 2 жыл бұрын
@@millamopeggyhill9290 I must've missed the difference between the two.
@costco_pizza
@costco_pizza 2 жыл бұрын
@@luciusweickum2808 I felt so sorry for Ben having to share the stage with this fringe lunatic.
@senkenkai
@senkenkai 2 жыл бұрын
@Nick Yankee how do you know its not in some way. Just because there is no class for it doesn't mean the principles of it aren't being taught or used. Some teachers have come out and said that they were order to act differently to poc because of historical racism. These ideas can affect how people act and teach. Even how they vote. For instance people thought the only reason why trump wanted a wall on the southern border was due to racism because immigration laws affect poc disaportionly greater. Which is bogus because the laws never mentioned anything about race and their assumption leaves out other factors. Like the overwhelming amount of people from poor dysfunctional countries and leaving them are so happen to have a huge population of poc.
@gats9593
@gats9593 2 жыл бұрын
If only Malcolm's arguments matched his unearned smugness.
@scorpianbliz
@scorpianbliz 2 жыл бұрын
So where exactly, was Malcolm incorrect or wrong? Because you can draw a straight line to all the maladies to all the statistics Bill Maher mentioned. White people for the most part are interested in these facts because it doesn't impact them. For example, blacks have been targeted criminally since emancipation. Slave and black codes to the present. John Ehrlichman in an 2016 interview said that was what the war on drugs was about. Look it up
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
@@scorpianbliz oh
@nice2785
@nice2785 2 жыл бұрын
Dude yes his level of smug was bothering me so bad. I know Bens blood had to be boiling
@youtubezcy
@youtubezcy 2 жыл бұрын
When Ben called him a liar he was projecting. Because that is the first line of conservative defense.
@scorpianbliz
@scorpianbliz 2 жыл бұрын
@m_train1 I gave you historical facts and context. If it is such bullshit, you should be able to refute it, but you did not refute a word I said, is that not right dummy....
@slapstick_2306
@slapstick_2306 6 ай бұрын
Why did they put a 3 year old infront of the canned laughter button
@dishjones6667
@dishjones6667 Ай бұрын
I'm 40 and I remember learning everything about slavery, resettlement of America Indians, and many other things that taught me about America's ugly history. This was in the 80s and 90s and I grew up in white AF Mormon Utah.
@drjeff5812
@drjeff5812 2 жыл бұрын
I'm left scratching my head of what Malcolm said. He completely agreed with Ben's definition of critical race Theory. Then he goes on to redefine it as just teaching history. What's even more puzzling is how the audience just went along with it. And that's why we have many of the problems we do today.
@drjeff5812
@drjeff5812 2 жыл бұрын
@ABM part is history and it should be thought as a fact not with opinion. Where CRT goes astray is when it teaches one group they are racist and oppressors by fact of birth and another that they will always be oppressed victims with no ability to advance on there own.
@patrickkilroy6512
@patrickkilroy6512 2 жыл бұрын
And then accuses Shapiro of using a hijacked definition! The guy is literally just going for rhetorical effect on an audience dumb enough to clap along.
@patrickkilroy6512
@patrickkilroy6512 2 жыл бұрын
@ABM Mate stfu, you’re the one who doesn’t know what they’re on about. YES, it is theory and history, when it should just be history. That’s the point. Especially when this particular theory is so terrible. It is an explicitly anti-liberal and anti-American theory. It uses magical thinking in place of rational argument, declaring the whole system to be racist despite being unable to point to parts of the system that engage in this racism, not having any legal basis on which to make such an assertion (only ever describing unequal outcomes, and just asserting that the cause of that inequality is racism). Kimberle Crenshaw explicitly states that she wants to promote Race Marxism in her book, but then acts all two-faced in television interviews, lying to people, telling them she just wants to continue the legacy of the Liberal Civil Rights movement. Stefancic and Delgado make it crystal clear that their problem is with Liberalism. Derrick Bell promotes an image of America so wilfully pessimistic that the only solution presented is the total breaking down of the system and replacing it with something entirely different. In this respect it is a revolutionary ideology. That is a TOTALLY inappropriate thing to teach in schools. So stop hiding the ball, and stop with the cheap moralising and smug race-card pulling. It’s a complete crock. When you say “whites are fearful”, you’re reducing people’s objections to something irrational. But CRT is detestable for completely rational reasons. Nonetheless, you say you understand why white people would be fearful, which is an acknowledgment of CRT’s anti-white bent. Yet still you support it? This alone is enough reason to oppose CRT. No Theory that promotes anti-whiteness (or anti-any-particular-race-ness) should be taught in schools. It’s as simple as that.
@patrickkilroy6512
@patrickkilroy6512 2 жыл бұрын
@ABM What planet are you living on? “Trump rallies”? A). I’m not a Trump supporter B). I’m not even American (i.e. I’m not wrapped up in the lazy partisan politics of Democrat/Republican propaganda. I just find this stuff offensive to basic rational sensibilities). C). Trump isn’t even the paradigmatic politician anymore. I take it this childish response of yours, much like Malcolm Nance’s in the video, is being given because you have no argument.
@patrickkilroy6512
@patrickkilroy6512 2 жыл бұрын
@ABM You’re right, I was mistaken to assume that you gave a shit about anything you say being coherent or rational. After all, this is just about resentment isn’t. What you’re saying is not just racist against whites generally, it’s philosophically deranged. Truth isn’t a self-evident thing. It is something that has to be argued over and demonstrated. So yeah, when you make crazy claims I’m going to argue with you. Tough shit.
@kamerondewitt8677
@kamerondewitt8677 2 жыл бұрын
Ben: *explains what CRT is* *no applauds* Nance: “I agree with him” *crowd goes fucking nuts*
@yungbfresh1
@yungbfresh1 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too.. Nance was a disrespectful child. Black Conservatives for Trump 2024. Let's go Brandon!
@galaxy-star-me
@galaxy-star-me 2 жыл бұрын
If you replace "race" by "class", "black" by "proletariat", "white" by "bourgeoisie" in CRT , it is just another version of Marx's class struggle theory which caused mass killings under communist regimes for the past hundred year. The Red guards in cultural revolution during Mao's era even killed the "class enemies" and ate their flesh in order to show the "hatred" towards them !
@kayliesellers8718
@kayliesellers8718 2 жыл бұрын
@Mel Torpae nice.. make a statement followed by an insult. Your moving mountains.
@Immaculately.vibing
@Immaculately.vibing 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. All these people pandering to the dark guy in the room just because of his color.
@BigBri550
@BigBri550 2 жыл бұрын
@@galaxy-star-me One huge difference: color didn't figure into communist regimes. Marxism is not predicated on the theory of genetic hierarchies between human beings; whereas, class struggles are an objective, configured reality.
@316dannyryan
@316dannyryan 9 ай бұрын
Love Bill Maher. He is a realist. Not political.
@billylesterbill2676
@billylesterbill2676 Жыл бұрын
This was hilarious. Ben and Bill on the same side and Malcolm was completely lost and had no idea what he was talking about. I could only think of this response "At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
@nathanyao3525
@nathanyao3525 2 жыл бұрын
*Shapiro:* _defines CRT as the idea that all disparity equals discrimination_ *Nance:* "I agree with everything you just said!" *Nance 5 minutes later:* "CRT is just about teaching history!"
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@nolessgifted6333
@nolessgifted6333 2 жыл бұрын
Shapiro explained what critical race theory is. But what the Republicans in the mid west and SEC see Critical race theory as, is teaching the true history of this country racist actions towards blacks and native Americans. Most white people in those areas don’t want there kids to know about all the crap black and natives Americans
@Mark_Cook
@Mark_Cook 2 жыл бұрын
@@nolessgifted6333 Uhh…. Republicans don’t actually define CRT as such. Im not sure where you are getting your info. The problem is becoming that CRT influenced subjects are being required in public schools, so states are banning any interpretation of history that puts pressure on students today because of their race. Personally i think its a horrible solution, but it is sensible since the state shouldn’t be mandating controversial interpretations of history. Just like mandating religious studies or any other similar subjects.
@_shadownotes_
@_shadownotes_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@nolessgifted6333 that's funny, cause CRT is exploding in blue states, and that's where all the pushback is directed. Do you agree with CRT as far as Ben defined it?
@notificationsareblocked.yo53
@notificationsareblocked.yo53 2 жыл бұрын
@@nolessgifted6333 That is complete and utter bullshit. We have been talking about critical race theory for 2 years the left have countered by dishonestly claiming that it’s just about history. Congrats you’ve been manipulated by the politicians on your own side. It is NOT ABOUT HISTORY IT’S ABOUT PARASITIC IDEOLOGY.
@nicholasmessina6406
@nicholasmessina6406 2 жыл бұрын
Ben perfectly defines critical race theory and the crowds silent then he says “I agree with everything he just said” and the crowd erupts😂
@UnclePengy
@UnclePengy 2 жыл бұрын
He says “I agree with everything he just said”... and then five minutes later, when he's losing the argument, he says "that's not critical race theory and besides you guys stole the term and redefined it blah blah blah" Sure do love them waffles.
@michigan2400
@michigan2400 2 жыл бұрын
No they're not even on the same subject ...
@benjaminross7930
@benjaminross7930 2 жыл бұрын
Because the crowd is brainwashed to not fully understand CRT
@deezyD93
@deezyD93 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@memerman2600
@memerman2600 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockymvvrcianu6846 yikes you left him silent for 48 hrs or he hasn’t seen it
@twistopherr3133
@twistopherr3133 7 ай бұрын
If you don’t know Malcom Nance is a decorated war veteran who knows what bomber jets sound like
@danielwilkins7509
@danielwilkins7509 4 күн бұрын
My parents were both very non-racist. They encouraged us, to engaged with kids, on the playground-and at school, regardless of races there.
@ericadorsey5111
@ericadorsey5111 2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm acts like a child. I’m quite appalled.
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
ya
@rebornstillborn
@rebornstillborn 2 жыл бұрын
He acts as someone with immense privilege. He has power over the other two people in the discussion and he knows it.
@IronPanther76
@IronPanther76 2 жыл бұрын
Black privilege. It's real.
@mercedeswalt6621
@mercedeswalt6621 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@pseudonymous8702
@pseudonymous8702 2 жыл бұрын
This guy thinks "defund the police" was (in his words) hijacked to mean defund the police.
@JasontheLayman
@JasontheLayman 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to Bill Maher for having some semblance of civil discourse with guests that have opposing views. Too bad the audience was there to ruin it
@RobertZemeckis2025
@RobertZemeckis2025 2 жыл бұрын
lefty always do
@Rpzinna
@Rpzinna 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Ben Shapiro cant win debates with real men so what do you expect?
@tristinjudd2595
@tristinjudd2595 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rpzinna Well he won this
@paulkearney7594
@paulkearney7594 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rpzinna so Malcolm is not a real man?
@kashiousmalone1322
@kashiousmalone1322 2 жыл бұрын
@@tristinjudd2595 he literally didn’t
@jacobsteele7138
@jacobsteele7138 Жыл бұрын
This is when Bill is at his best.
@deathtogoogleplus4729
@deathtogoogleplus4729 4 ай бұрын
Black privelege: being able to dump 5 non-sequiturs on a row on a televised debate without being boo-ed off stage.
@Steve-cd9ul
@Steve-cd9ul 4 ай бұрын
His thesis was that Shapiro is misrepresenting critical race theory, that in fact for the most part the right is using it as a tool to suppress discussion of issues like the KKK and systemic, historical wealth imbalances. What's the non sequitur?
@7headd
@7headd 2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm is just the living embodiment of twitter as a whole
@seanmacmillan5562
@seanmacmillan5562 2 жыл бұрын
He could start capping on the floor and people would clap lol
@j.a.hernandez9742
@j.a.hernandez9742 2 жыл бұрын
Literally, everything point this guy made was either wrong or went nowhere. I was born and raised in NYC and the only history I've been taught since 7th grade was black history and every single crumb of negative U.S history. Legit had the same history teacher in 9th and 10th grade and taught the same thing in back to back years all pushing forth the point of critical race theory. So for this guy to say that critical race theory isn't taught in school is the most stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. He needs to go touch grass.
@BJ-xm6bi
@BJ-xm6bi 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.a.hernandez9742 He needs to go touch grass? *_Thats literally_* the most stupidest thing I've ever heard in *_my_* life.
@duckofdeath7250
@duckofdeath7250 2 жыл бұрын
@@BJ-xm6bi So you didn't watch the video
@BJ-xm6bi
@BJ-xm6bi 2 жыл бұрын
@@duckofdeath7250 I watched the video, but unlike you I also had the sound on. Try listening with the sound on and you will hear how Ben lost the argument.
@willandrews9741
@willandrews9741 2 жыл бұрын
If you can’t win the debate with logic, win the audience with pandering semantics.
@jimmyshirley3055
@jimmyshirley3055 2 жыл бұрын
Another way of saying, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh-t."
@jimmyjames6796
@jimmyjames6796 2 жыл бұрын
Substitute "audience" with "trained seals"
@daviddn5631
@daviddn5631 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you are talking about the guy that ended bragging about his money like 18 year old soundcloud rapper.
@benjikidd9739
@benjikidd9739 2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddn5631 she is talking about the anti white racist who decided to only speak ill of Caucasians but seems to omit all the historical facts about many other races who were responsible for many nasty historical facts and couldn't win an argument without insulting like a 4 year old. He might as well have started calling him a buttface!!!! Pull yourself together!!! LMAO!!! Fun fact for you.... The first American slave owner was a black man just so you know ;)
@zachary7897
@zachary7897 2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddn5631 lmao in response to Nance’s petty insult. Nance’s arguments are worse then a five year olds. He was unable to make a single point in that debate and ran away the whole time
@tylerhusky4065
@tylerhusky4065 Жыл бұрын
OH SHIT “I will comfort myself tonight by sleeping on my bed made of money” Ben Shapiro just shut that dude down hard 😂😂😂😂
@darkshadow5581
@darkshadow5581 9 ай бұрын
ah yes, gotta love being so unable to use "Facts and logic" that you gotta just say "well, i got more money than you, so hah"
@SJslostwritingawards
@SJslostwritingawards 10 ай бұрын
This black man sure knows how to shut down an argument by just claiming racism.
@FrostLordOni
@FrostLordOni 2 жыл бұрын
"Maybe if I just keep insulting and interrupting him, I won't actually have to respond to any of his points" - Malcolm Nance this entire video
@bscar
@bscar 2 жыл бұрын
That seems to be the status quo for a lot of these guests on hot topics of the day, especially in the gun control debate area.
@mikehawk8361
@mikehawk8361 2 жыл бұрын
say you didnt watch the video, without actually saying you didnt watch the video
@FrostLordOni
@FrostLordOni 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikehawk8361 say you have no counter argument, without actually saying you don’t have a counter argument
@mikehawk8361
@mikehawk8361 2 жыл бұрын
@@FrostLordOni sir this is a youtube comment section, there are no such thing as proper arguments on here. comments here are only useful at bullying people.
@TimeForDunston
@TimeForDunston 2 жыл бұрын
It's like we watched two entirely different videos. All I saw was an insecure and angry little manlet trying to pretend that racism doesn't exist in America.
@DavidHernandez-cx8qe
@DavidHernandez-cx8qe 2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm is just arguing with himself and people are applauding.
@powerman2610
@powerman2610 2 жыл бұрын
It's kinda funny.. he says something that is 100% irrelevant and they just clap to support him.
@machtnichtsseimann
@machtnichtsseimann 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what's more embarrassing, his nonsense or the audience clapping mindlessly. OK, it's a tie.
@travr6
@travr6 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Maher's audience isn't a smart group
@furbyoats1
@furbyoats1 2 жыл бұрын
Trained seals
@jamesanderson1541
@jamesanderson1541 2 жыл бұрын
@@machtnichtsseimann now just give lefties a helmet
@soloroaddg6066
@soloroaddg6066 6 ай бұрын
Malcom gets outclassed into oblivion. Audience: "Whoooooooo!!"
@I_Am_Godron
@I_Am_Godron Жыл бұрын
It's almost as if this is the reason that centrist and right leaning people DO NOT WANT STATUES TORN DOWN OR THINGS RENAMED. It is important to know who these people are and how they got to where they were. Erasing them fixes jack sheet.
@akafox91
@akafox91 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, just pan the camera ONE TIME! We know their seals! Show us the seals! There's no way a human being could have possible mistaken the word salad coming out of Nance's mouth for logic, especially logic worthy of applause.
@jasonbernard5468
@jasonbernard5468 2 жыл бұрын
lol arf arf
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