Late Stage Midwit Empire | with Nina Power

[@auroradias1989]

That machine is called an Industrial Complex and just like the Military Industrial Complex the goals shift from achieving victory and solving problems to sustaining endless conflict and managing problems but purposefully never solving them. It's the difference between wanting to win and wanting to work, winning means the end of the problem which means no more work and there are a lot of people that just want to work but don't want to win.

[@jesse123185]

This is a lot of what people on the right are getting at when they talk about mangerialism as our governing structure

[@flamesintheattic]

With society wide mental disorders, there is no winning, there is only inhabiting the disorders.

[@FUToob]

Thank you Benjamin. I watched most of it and enjoyed it.

[@richardcrook2112]

I enjoyed her talking here more than other interviews I've seen, she's witty.

[@BenjaminABoyce]

Every now and then calmvo style pays off

[@richardcrook2112]

@@BenjaminABoyce Lol that's true.

[@NFSCfan]

Benjamin does seem to bring the best out of people. It's a great skill he has, the best I've seen it done, personally.

[@kadams4458]

​@@NFSCfanIndeed! Active listening is a great skill. Most honest people can still perceive when another person they're speaking with is asking genuine questions and is really listening to understand. If we lose that as a societal standard in the West, we're so, so screwed.

[@stevejhkhfda]

Nina is awesome

[@jonschmitt232]

I wish we had more chicks like this in the U.S. I guess I might need to go to church to find them.

[@PaulaODowd]

Yes go to Orthodox Church they exist

[@Jules-Is-a-Guy]

34:55 These are probably, easily two of my favorite internet people. However, just recently I've been hovering between online-venting, and critique. Here's what you need to know: It's actually necessary to have sufficient avenues open (first) to do hard work which pays off, or to develop one's character in a normative social context. People who had those things, can't easily recognize the extent to which they're gone. (They're sort of going to remain, it seems, for the inherited 'aristocracy' and in-groups). Without these things, even would-be useful people in society, instead fall back on some form of subsistence. Or menial work, etc. Which demands all their effort. Nina probably gets this, the main word in the vocabulary of those Lacanians on TU is TimeEnergy. (Not an endorsement). Or (here's the kicker) people fall back on tribe. Typically ethnic. Religions are ethno-tribal, 'gang-like,' ritual systems. That's a statement of fact. Well-mannered, ethno-Protestants or British, simply resist the vaguely crass, illustrative description. Lol, I actually like that sensibility. It's less about 'hard work,' or 'personal development,' when scarcity-mindest really sets in. Understandably. Depending on social circumstances. Don't fall back on group-tribal membership? Simultaneously, everyone now says: I'm a 'Christian'. I'm a 'this'. I'm a 'that'. Tbh Nina, were you a 'Christian' during the mad-chill 90's? (Dunno, but I'm thinking, nah). And Benjamin, cool that you take ownership of your past stuff. I don't envy any public-facing person, any kind of scrutiny. But I mean, I seem to recall, experimenting with Satanism or something heavily lolz-infused, along those lines? No time for that, in the near-future, when the REAL tribes command people's membership. Listen X'er's, I'm not trolling you, ok? Society is re-tribalizing. It's cancelling out everything else. It's gradually shifting into full gear. At this rate, pretty much by the tail-end of your generation's adult/working lives. I dunno, I guess the longer individuals remain insulated from the full effects, the yummier their particular silver spoon makes everything taste. Heh, heh. [HASHTAG: Jules is getting dark. For at least a couple days. And the 3rd person is ironic.]

[@BenjaminABoyce]

Excellent comment. Thanks for your thoughts, J

[@Jules-Is-a-Guy]

@@BenjaminABoyce Thanks Benjamin. I promise, I'm taking my 'medicine' again. Which is basically black coffee, and doritos.

[@tigerburn81]

The sexual tension in this interview . . . It's like Mulder and Scully.

[@Jules-Is-a-Guy]

1:13:45 'I am Jack's laughing too much, when most serious question is asked, in funniest way'.

[@daveldma]

32:05 You already had a talk with Jasun Horsley.

[@BenjaminABoyce]

I am idiot

[@Ralph_Baric_PhD_C2019]

Oh wow, what a girl. Lucky husband, if I were ever to meet him I would be sure to let him know such, and thank him.

[@Jules-Is-a-Guy]

43:45 Yes, this is one of the main reasons, why Nina's pretty much the best. The one true 'God,' is almost indistinguishable from pure comedy. I'm not advocating for sociopaths, to go giggling through a war zone, or anything like that. However... almost...?

[@adrianstumpp5883]

Semiosis is a great description. I've been saying the mixed metaphor is the most appropriate expression of our age. It's a similar idea.

[@stvbrsn]

Nina is great!

[@oldtrowt]

Truth is not the antonym of lie, and belief is emotional thought, albeit an understandable state of being as an anchor in the messy waters.

[@AndyJarman]

The Muslim theology behind the tesselated tiles in mosques starts with the point of creation, the centre of a circle, as a description of perfection. Then from the edge of the circle a new point of generation occurs, and creates a second circle, identicle to the first, an echo, a repetition. The two circles intersect to form three domains, a trinity. I find this a contemplation on the nature of duality and how only when the two circles are drawn can we have something that is not a circle, yet lies within it. The "vessica picies" (fish bladder) is the third realm between heavan and earth that the Christ is often depicted occupying. The boat shape that Moses on the basket, or Noah un the Arc or Jonah were carried in. Male, Female, Child.

[@PothePerson]

That's an excellent video title. Whose phrase is that?

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

This should be fun 😺 . 🏆-----> Ms. 🐾

[@Jules-Is-a-Guy]

1:26:20 I hate to say it, and granted our metrics remain imperfect, also I'm not exactly a professional rocket scientist myself. But firstly, that very harsh reality, is still reality. Even if we don't want to look at it. I'm not advocating for any associated policies, for the most part. People should just realize this fact, and proceed as they deem appropriate. (Without legally subverting the core of liberal society. Which doesn't depend only on wishful thinking). Secondly, if a cinderblock ever falls on my head, you can go ahead and unplug me from the breathing machine. Immediately. As I write this, I'm listening, and it keeps getting interesting: 'You don't value goodness in your community etc., if you emphasize these metrics...' Higher intelligence, is almost always associated with a healthier, more 'well-behaved,' and more 'moral' population. You're separating the functionality from the cultural system, because you don't want to discuss the former. But you're wrong, they're not separate. The culture is a sociological system, more/less adaptive depending on context, to be studied and understood. If something's harsh, you can avoid it. But must stop short of pasting over reality. I also don't deny the existence of a so-called 'objective,' or at least "line of best fit" standard for health, and even for behavior, in theory. At least, not unless human speciation occurs. (Let's assume that's not a concern).

[@Cotictimmy]

Reaction to the first few minutes banter/chat: The Left's activist provide SOOOO MUCH material for comedy with all their insane hostility, literalism, and the constant torrent of slurs they direct at perfectly nice people like Nina. (Love nina's reference to Emma Thompson's anti-Brexit rant - describing Britain as "A tiny little clod-bolted, rainy corner of sort-of Europe, a cake-filled misery-laden grey old island" . Some of us are the opposite of miserable: we keep cheerful by laughing and loony virtue-signaling elite celebrities. 🤣

[@ThomasSimmons-u5x]

Nina is absolutely beautiful and brilliant...whata Dame!

[@realMaverickBuckley]

I don't think its the white grandfathers who take offence to the spicey (truthful) jokes..

[@dubidolczektv5278]

Strictly enforced morays sounds grim for all involved..

[@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy]

The way we're headed right now without that enforcement is looking pretty grim.

[@michel-jeantailleur]

Do you mean the species of eel, or the conventions and customs of a society known as mores but pronounced funny?

[@dubidolczektv5278]

@@michel-jeantailleur Eels.. Though both could be grim I suppose?

[@dubidolczektv5278]

@@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy I certainly agree that the way we are headed looks grim Captain, and I can well imagine that you have a more persuasive point than my own.

[@_BirdOfGoodOmen]

When the jaws open wide and there's more jaws inside, that's a moray!

[@bobcougar77]

God, family, country is the natural order for all people. Religious or not. Non religious people just substitute something else for God. Some healthy, most... Not so much. Govt, Gaia, DEI, etc. My brother over all, unless he breaks the rules of God... Just plug in the politics for God and it follows why so many people abandon family over Politics etc. Anyway, that's my thought for the day.

[@zwatwashdc]

Time stamps!

[@BenjaminABoyce]

🎉

[@zenden6564]

Lovely Nina 😍

[@NineInchTyrone]

Who is she

[@chrisohanlon69]

she was sued by a j

[@NineInchTyrone]

@@chrisohanlon69 ah ha

[@henriquecamboim]

@@chrisohanlon69 who is AJ?

[@chrisohanlon69]

​@henriquecamboim a very sinister man. Pure evil.

[@Eduardo-jj9bi]

@@henriquecamboim Small hats big problems

[@helenablavatsky9136]

FINE

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

[gives 🏆💜]

[@helenablavatsky9136]

@@NinjaKittyBonks 🤗

[@HoradrimBR]

Cats... Urbanites, Russians and Muslims prefer cats, religious, hardworking farmers from the West prefer dogs. Why is that ?

[@flamesintheattic]

Cats are opportunistic, lurking in the shadows, taking advantage of niches within urban centres. Cats will also hunt out of boredom, for amusement, for sport. Dogs protect territory and resources while defending against intruders.

[@Zidana123]

I don't know about Urbanites and Russians, but Muslims prefer cats because they are considered ritually clean by Islamic doctrine.

[@leefrancis007]

Is it weird I find Benjamin cute 🤷

[@markkavanagh7377]

Is it cute I find Benjamin weird? 🤔

[@chrisohanlon69]

It's g&y

[@michel-jeantailleur]

I'm cuter.

[@BabyDogOfJustice]

"Controversial". Says whom?

[@ekszentrik]

1:03:38 "I have an issue with my residual paganism" This really tells you all you need to know about this person. I don't think Ben's usual viewers can related to someone that puts actual dogmatic spirituality/religion that highly. There is a certain value to be exposed to such different views, sure, but the value might sometimes be very little.

[@robbiespence6504]

How can it be that any one single statement “really tells you all you need to know about” any person?

[@willowblossom6056]

cats

[@glendohms9446]

Ben's humor is so cringy/stupid its painful to listen to. Then his questions really miss the point or reduce it to an already obvious level... like stop pretending she knows nothing about north america and have a conversation about it thats not a half joke about her being uninformed.