This VR Sim outperforms Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024!

[@SabrinaBraden-n7n]

This sim deserves support for the developers, i just hope it gets better weather control, like real world weather implemented.

[@desitterspace10101]

In built real world weather would be great, but there is a mod that easily ports real world weather into the sim. Available on the forums. The devs have said they plan to implement in the future.

[@SabrinaBraden-n7n]

@@desitterspace10101 Thanks for the information, another move that would benefit them also is VATSIM support. Fingers crossed.

[@uberdenwolken4564]

„It is not as beautiful as MSFS“… but at least it runs! Stutter free and with way much higher resolutions. Its my go to when I‘m frustrated again with Asobos bs.

[@laubox]

Aerofly FS 4 - Not many have tried it - but what do you think about this VR sim?

[@mene3337]

It's the best of the best. I only have 10 hours in and i am shocked. You can see the dust on the instruments, the detail is insane.

[@laubox]

@@mene3337 Awesome! I clocked 60 hours now in Aerofly!

[@marathi22]

It's a cool sim, have both 2 and 4, but I'm sorry, none of them hold a candle to MSFS unless you are on an older and weaker system.

[@psour33]

It was built for this.

[@misterchippie]

It is quick to load, smooth as butter even on a lower-end system, fully interactive in VR, global streaming scenery, the airliner systems are modelled enough to do a cold and dark take off and ILS approach and landing, everything just works, I've never had a crash to desktop - what's not to like?! Ok, it's missing a few key things like multiplayer, ATC, Vatsim integration, passenger loading / ground crew operations - but for a quick to jump in fix, without having to set up all your yokes and throttles and so on and so forth - I love it.

[@shillcreativeworkshop]

In the time it takes for MSFS VR to load up. You could already be flying in Areofly. I have both of them. This is an excellant VR flight sim. It works amazingly well.

[@pinkostv]

This game is awesome and underrated.I’ve used this in VR ,you can pick a airline route and let the copilot fly it and look out the window as a passenger .the only downside is no addons but they give you ones for free.

[@NIGELHORTON-l1x]

VR in FS4 is the best VR experience in any flight sim and I have them all Xplane MSFS 2020/2024 the others should learn a lesson

[@abtechgroup]

and how do you operate the rudder pedals?

[@poolhallshark]

Excellent question 😂👍👍

[@laubox]

I have my own rudder pedals connected, but you can also use the joystick on your vr controllers to operate the rudder pedals.

[@poolhallshark]

@@laubox 👌👍

[@frankfrati4]

More controllers taped to your feet! 😂

[@uberdenwolken4564]

Aerofly FS 4 is the best VR flight sim ever. I also found it just sole months ago and was sooooo impressed that nearly nobody knows it. The VR performance ist the best out there. (Besides Condor Soaring which is for Gliders only)

[@laubox]

Thanks for your comment Uber - yep, I am still flabbergasted we don't see this fligth simulator appear on more KZbin Channels - especially on VR channels as it just runs incredible well.

[@carlcat]

I would have liked to see how cities looked and other structures throughout the world. Would have liked to see the weather and cloud effects as well as city night time scenes.

[@laubox]

Cities and structures look way worse than msfs 2024 - But from high up in the skies it looks great.

[@bugrist]

Yeah the price should reflect such lack of quality. C'mon it's 2025!

[@dazzer1696]

Yep, Ive got all the flight sims and FS4, as good as it is from high up views (graphically), when down near the ground the detail is very low, much lower when compared to MSFS 2020/2024 and its not using satellite data either.

[@darrellc8366]

@@bugristlack of quality? How many flight simulators have you written?

[@bugrist]

@@darrellc8366 quality of terrain, that is.

[@jimj2683]

Just using VR controllers is the future. Would ideally need some haptic gloves and motion sim for the arms.

[@JDVVV378]

I love this sim for VR for mountain areas like the Grand Canyon. It’s have a great performance in VR.

[@jacqueskloster4085]

we need a hybrid solution vr gloves (for haptic feedback) so we can use our hands to operate the cockpit and a HOTAS solution to be able to fly like a sane person. Anything that isn't a fly by wire plane, IMHO is not really operatable in aerofly FS4 with either the virtual stick or using the analogue sticks of the controllers. It also takes out the immersion for me.

[@sYd6point7]

just needs to get the weather effects in like VTOLVR just did and we are rocking!

[@weeliano]

It definitely runs way smoother than FS2020 in VR mode. Just a pity it doesn't have all the Global scenery.

[@JD-qd1bp]

I’ve had this for a while and it’s pretty good. Great if you just want a quick flight without all the hassle of the other sims. I’ve got MSFS 2020 and x-plane 12, mainly fly in x-plane. Given up with MSFS 2024 for now, will probably purchase it when the marketplace is open and more of the bugs have been quashed. I would play Aerofly more if the developers introduced real weather and ATC but I understand it’s a small development team and neither of these items are likely to be added any time soon. Apparently the flight characteristics of the helicopters are very highly praised if that’s your thing…

[@andrebrizan511]

I have to say that for vr, this game is much better. I wish they added more dlcs and a few more tutorials. The vr experience is 1000x better.

[@martinschmidt5541]

Yea - Icarus - a small company from germany producing very nice RC and PC Flightsimulators !!

[@steeltribe3967]

Looks great. Seems like hand tracking should work well, did you try it?

[@cvdvds]

Heard about this one but had no idea it worked so well in VR. Might have to check it out. The weak graphics are a double edged sword however. Much better framerates than MSFS but also much more boring looking. Being able to turn up the resolution compared to MSFS sounds great though.

[@Cellinsky-2302]

Its very good at vr performance and has the best vr manipulation in any sim. FMs are very good too. If I miss something, then it's a better light and weather system. The current one makes it look like a 90is sim, wich is completely wrong impression. Other than that, I like it very much.

[@chieftain_joe8569]

What a great video! Your videos from Aerofly FS4 were what made me get my own VR headset last year - and I haven't regretted it one bit! I must say I quickly switched to VTOL VR, though, as it was just simpler to learn all the (much simplified) controls. But now I really want to get back into FS4. Can you maybe give me some pointers how to learn and get started? Unfortunately there are no real ingame tutorials and reading guide after guide is a LOT to take in. Watching you flying an A320 and (apparently) known what to do all the time is exactly what I want to be able to do - but can you give me a few hints how to get there? Naturally, watching your videos has already helped me a lot :-) But I'm not quite there yet that I can simply get my VR headset, plan a route, and perform a complete cold and dark start, flight, and landing. I know there are great guides on the official website, but how do you memorize all of that? Anyway I want to add your content is really great - I've watched most if not all of your Aerofly videos by now and enjoyed every single one of them!

[@laubox]

Hi Chieftain, That is so great to hear! I am happy you are not regretting your VR purchase - As VTOL is great, it is true that Aerofly is harder to get into. If you go the official aerofly website they have tutorials on how to start the plane and some other tutorials aswell. These helped me a lot!

[@chieftain_joe8569]

@@laubox Thank you so much for your feedback! Any tipps how to best get the checklists in the VR cockpit? The aerofly tutorials are phenomenal content wise but it's really hard to memorize all of it, at least for a beginner like me

[@megabitegaming9655]

I love aerofly the standard airports are stunning compared to msfs 24 and performance is absolutely amazing

[@DaveBrown1]

I played with this many years ago and the performance was brill, way above anything else. This is how MS2024 should be, 90fps no messing around. Thanks for the info.

[@RolandDobbins]

I get 90fps in MSFS2024 VR, FYI.

[@TheOriginalCoda]

@@RolandDobbins You need to qualify that statement.

[@DaveBrown1]

@@RolandDobbins Only in your dreams!

[@RolandDobbins]

@ - you have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s vey straightforward with modern hardware.

[@Flysmith72]

This looks amazing - does it support the most common hardware controllers, like the Honeycomb yoke and throttle?

[@bradule1980]

Great sim. Waiting for more texture coverage of terrain around the world. Only some parts have decent textures.

[@laubox]

True! The alps do have great texture coverage in general!

[@jay6817]

Turn resolution down on MSFS, and it's similar. VR hand tracking is good in this, but i prefer hardware controllers.

[@desitterspace10101]

I combine the TM Airbus side stick/thrust levers with the hand controller. I actually prefer this to level-D sims, it is just mind blowing how realistic this feels at max settings with a powerful rig. Even a low end rig would be great. My FS2020/24 setup just doesn't compare (i9 with a 4090) I stick to Fenix A320 for system failures.

[@BellatrixLugosi]

which is better in vr perfomance? xplane 12 or aerofly fs 4?

[@TimToussaint]

How well is the actual aerodynamic behavior of the different aircraft implemented?

[@laubox]

It is not as good as Msfs 2024, its alright

[@desitterspace10101]

Extremely good with the A319/320/321. The FBW is spot on, and when you put the aircraft into direct law/alternate law, it behaves correctly. I don't fly any other aircraft in the sim though.

[@GraphicArtsSuperHighway]

What VR are you using and what do you use for hand tracking? Great Video! Thanks :-)

[@laubox]

In this video I just used the Quest 3

[@daxwax1]

I was sold at the flight engineers station on the Concorde. RIP MSFS.

[@jeffreymartin8448]

The developers of this are not human.

[@windgods1414]

Will try Aerofly FS 4 today, thanks ! To start with, 2024 has NO controller or even mouse interaction in VR during flight mode, acts broken, still broken, Sad because 2020 finally fixed VR interaction problems in the last patch before releasing 2024.

[@laubox]

Awesome! Happy flying!

[@Callsigntitan]

I see you using a lot of quest 3, how is it compared to Crystal Light? Can’t decide between them!

[@laubox]

Hi Call! Thanks! I use the Quest 3 for Aerofly because the Meta tools offer a stabilization tool for recording - If not recording I mainly / only use the pimax crystal headset. Especially for racing and flight sims. If you have a beefy pc - the Pimax is the way to go in my opinion.

[@Callsigntitan]

@ thanks

[@arenam79]

you had me sold on it until i saw the price tag, maybe next sale if it shows up. I've been burnt by too many VR games. yea i know i can return but less than 2hrs isn't enough to judge a game

[@laubox]

yeah, it has a bit of a steep Pricing! Perhaps wait for a sale!

[@marcosavila8215]

the no physical flight stick or throttle would never work for me but besides that i didn't even know about this sim, that's how Good MS is by trying to hide these developers, looks amazing

[@desitterspace10101]

You can use hardware, I use this in VR with a full home cockpit setup. I still use the right hand controller for overhead panel and entering data into the MCDU on the airbus. Crystal clear and smooth as silk

[@badewannenwikinger2522]

My question is.. How good is the Perfomance in VR with Radeon Grafikcards. MSFS is to 100% optimiced for NVIDIA Grafikcards.

[@vracan]

can never fly precisely without physical flightstick especially with force feedback so unless it does include physical joystick for controlling pitch and bank I pass

[@misterchippie]

It supports physical hardware fully - I use it with Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo, and the Thrustmaster Airbus throttle and sidestick, as well as TPA rudder pedals. All work flawlessly out of the box, and you can fully remap controls to your liking.

[@neilfb08]

I'd love to be able to design some grass strips for this sim for the UK, -Neil's Farm Strips

[@Lonsome1223]

What about rudder pedals can you programme the FMC and radio's.

[@desitterspace10101]

Yes to proagraming MCDU/FMC. You can use your own real world pedals and flight controls.

[@ganderstein3426]

They need to have an option for mechanical failures and issues that result in being forced to react in order to stave off a crash.

[@Darksouls-52-IlI]

i just wish it got vatsim support and i would happily switch to it

[@Motorschirm]

And the best are the VERY FAST loading times ... 10% of waiting time of Asob0 :) ;) And no crashes !

[@noxxtromonoctis5295]

I highly doubt that just vr-controlling the rotorwings makes a lot of sense. Full hands on stick and collective required all the time. Also, how do you operate the rudder pedals? Apart from that you probably won't be able to keep up the sensitive inputs that you need for helicopters with your hands in the air.

[@desitterspace10101]

Use a stick and rudder, that's what I do. I only use hand controllers for the overhead panels

[@Fromatic]

Are you using actual hand tracking or the quest hand controllers to operate the controls inside the aircraft?

[@elliotcurrie7143]

Love it, ive got about 500 hrs so far, but it's a little choppy running on my i7 Dell Precision Laptop- I have to dial things pretty far down. I'd love to experience it on a more powerful PC, and i wish there were in-game systems tutorials

[@Modano1st]

What program are you using to check your fps?

[@laubox]

It is called FPS VR

[@NaranRet]

Does it have Shared cockpit? .... yes? Sold out!

[@laubox]

sadly not, it would make it perfect, i agree!

[@kevinpinkney1258]

How does yaw and brake work?

[@laubox]

you can use the joysticks on the vr controllers to brake.

[@MrAnthism]

Can I play this with the psvr2 headset?

[@techitint.9100]

Was that the Helipad of Plain Morte Glacier?

[@cyberlacrus]

How do you operate the rudders?

[@laubox]

I have my own rudder pedals connected, but you can also use the joystick on your vr controllers to operate the rudder pedals.

[@BernardWilkinson]

What are your pc specs please?

[@thehighwayman78]

And it's not overexposed like msfs VR!

[@derrickg6028]

I think they need to get together with Gaijin and integrate with war thunder

[@BooktownBoy]

Curious about how the rudder pedals work???

[@desitterspace10101]

I fly the airbus with the Thrustmaster Airbus pack, and Saitek pedals

[@bigrivercod]

@laubox which headstrap/batterystrap are you using with the Quest3?

[@laubox]

This is the Kiwi Design headstrap

[@MrCrrispy]

It doesn't work at all with traditional Hotas etc?...

[@laubox]

NO! You can hook up your Hotas and Rudder pedals aswell!

[@mad-b264]

If I wasn't waiting for Assetto Corsa EVO to be released I might of got this, I can't get this and AC EVO though and I am a VR Sim Racing Nerd on AMS 2, Who also likes a Flight Sim in VR, I did get IL-2 Sturmovic a while back, IL-2 is fantastic with real life WW2 battles, You reminded me I did get a spitfire DLC that I have not tried yet, I just get addicted to AMS 2 when I puts the VR on, I ends up doing AMS 2 and before you know it a few hours have past, lol, I have a INUI PCVR charging cable, That allows me to do Sim racing on AMS 2 for at least 10 hours, Probably 12 hours, I have never been able to run the battery out on the Quest 3 so far..... Maybe next month I will grab this, Or on a sale, On the wish list at least lol.......

[@laubox]

I also can't wait for assetto corsa EVO - fingers crossed it will be good tho! Thanks for your comment btw! nice read!

[@mad-b264]

@@laubox Any guesses on how many people will be on AC EVO on the 16th lol, Will be a busy day for Steam, lol... You done a decent video as well, Got me thinking about getting the Flight Sim you done the video about.... The more people that uses VR as well, The better chance VR got of getting more impressive..... I only do the Sim Racing in VR, And I would only game now in VR, The Quest 3 is actually an impressive tool.... Happy Sim Racing on the 16th lol... Stay Safe yeah, Peace....

[@greaper1878]

My hand tracking doesnt work as well as it seems to for you.

[@laubox]

Strange - using a Q3 aswell?

[@MrAnthonyfrench]

He's using controllers though you know. I wonder if it does work with hand tracking ?

[@greaper1878]

@@laubox I do have a Quest 3, I uninstalled the game awhile back, I am revisting it again...because of your video. I will update you on any tracking issues. I also play VTOL VR with no issues.

[@BackFromTheMadeUp]

Great vid, but can you clarify one thing. At the beginning you say it beats MSFS2024, but then later on you say the scenery doesn't look as good as MSFS2024 and imply it's quite a lot better in MSFS...?

[@laubox]

The graphics in MSFS 2024 are just fantastic - SUre in Aerofly if you are high up and in certain areas they look good, just not as good as in microsoft

[@payt01]

Looks kindof fun! But what's going n with the weird sky colors?

[@EX141FE]

Are the airliners study level?

[@istvanszabo3275]

Cool, until you realise, that planes can't freaking stall

[@KinkyJalepeno]

Can we use hotas and peddles if we want to? If so I’m in. Not interested otherwise.

[@dannyrvideo]

yes

[@laubox]

Yes yes! You can hook up your own Hotas and rudder pedals if you want to and use it in combination with vr controllers even.

[@Mellonpopr]

my gripe with flight simulator 2024 is nobody is playing it...the skies are empty if you turn off the AI.

[@sz-zr6rn]

I like it but the water breaks immersion for me

[@laubox]

Yeah true! Water is meh...

[@MrAnthonyfrench]

It does sound really good. proper good sound design isn't it !!

[@brighttorch5597]

I see PC specs, it's not standalone game?

[@woodie228]

No telemetry for Simhub, so it is a no go for me for now.

[@NE-76]

Aerofly FS4!!!!!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@henpikehenpike5391]

what video card are you using ?

[@laubox]

for this video i used the 4090 - but on my 3080 it also runs great!

[@henpikehenpike5391]

@@laubox 👍Cool ! Thanks for the reply . I have a 4080 super and a quest 3 headset. Quest 3 is still in the box however lol

[@Xexi.G]

How do I get this on my quest 3

[@themexicannon]

It doesn't run natively on the Quest 3 unfortunately, I run it on my laptop and connect the Quest using Virtual Desktop. You can probably also use the link cable etc.

[@rmooneyhan0624]

2 by 2, hands of blue

[@tomg6284]

Is internet required? I only have a Hotspot.

[@pinkostv]

Yes the scenery is streamed in .with out internet I think you can down load Europe and part of the US only

[@tomg6284]

Thanks for the info.

[@DrzewieckiDesign]

Comparing Aerofly with MSFS is a bit... weird.

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

It is nowhere near realistic, because in VR you would need 16K resolution twice (once for each eye) rendered at minimum 90fps to merely EQUAL the resolution of a standard 4k monitor. The reason is because VR lenses are so close to your eyes, they lose all the resolution, and it all becomes a pixelates mess from up-close.

[@WarRadish]

Yes

[@laubox]

Yep

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

*PLEASE* do make some *side-by-side video footage* so some of us can *enjoy VR 3D on our mobile phones, using Google Cardboard or similar!*

[@raygun101]

If you like *RC flying* then Aerofly RC is awesome as well, (it's also very light on your HD and fast to use) would be nice to see it in VR with VR controllers.

[@mokumkat]

Yesterday I installed RC Pilot Trainer for the Quest 3, man oh man that's just pure fun!

[@debof14]

love it agree best for VR but i wish it had mor scenery and some atc

[@emarcel-l4i]

I just purchased a new bicycle and I LOVE IT, I agree the best bicycle ever! Though, I wish it had two wheels instead of one and broken... :D

[@tannerjack9520]

they stopped supporting this game i thought

[@KoelJ]

Yeah but it looks crap in comparison, I played Aerofly Fs2 quite a bit, but the clouds and static ocean tiles was really ofputting. With autofps and Dlss, DlAA and xr toolkit s I have been able to run it pretty satisfactory in msfs 2024 even in London, I have I7 4790 cpu 24gb of ddr 3 ram, Nvidia 3060 gpu and a ssd that I run it on, so hardy a beast and still use Quest 2. I am really enjoying msfs 2024, especially career. Since msfs2020 came out and now msfs2024 i have not touched Aerofly 2 or Xplane 11, uninstalled on day one of launch. Vr interaction can do with some work in msfs2024 though

[@vrambassador]

And now tell me, why does FS2020/FS2024 runs and looks like shit in VR compared to this? I really don't get it how bad that DLSS upscale Mess of the MS-FS's looks compared to this. Ok this one can get boring very quickly but it runs butterly smooth and look awesome CRISP.

[@SausageBap88]

bollocks! it's not a patch on mfs2024, VR is incredible

[@willf2896]

Dosent take much to beat MSFS2024. It is insanely buggy, they released a beta version.

[@chocks9350]

Sadly it is Singleplayer only........

[@laubox]

Coop (Shared cockpit) would make it complete!

[@lordandrewbruceofthemcinne5046]

I hope this game isn't too realistic, otherwise the doors on those pesky Boeings might fall off 🤣🤣🤣

[@mattias988]

INFLIGHT AERO PRO FS 2.1 use Aerofly FS4 with theirs own addon for aerobatic sim. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aajOiJ15ebBorac I have fly a Extra 300L and it feels close to the Extra 330 LX in Aerofly FS4 I hope Force Feedback is supported in the future Condor Soaring is the best for gliding.

[@Serx1079]

... outperforms Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 ... at 06:55 😂

[@laubox]

Sure - the graphics are not the same - but many other things it does better!

[@LulzSecvirusinvader]

Don't tink so

[@MarkDavidBlack]

No career mode. I'm out.

[@chewkieroo123]

my msfs 2024 looks way better then this lol

[@emarcel-l4i]

This unfinished project (44,99€ on Steam) seems abandoned for years. It's a dirty money cow with their silly DLCs, each priced like a complete game... >> I paid them full price a couple of years ago because I was so naive, and since then, they have released "a small patch for MAC OS in 2022" WTH!? ZERO development - O progress. This is an arcade demo rather than a sim/game. Performance? Just give me a break! Just go and disable the scenery and all features in MSFS to the level of this empty sim, and you will be amazed by the performance of MSFS in VR! Shame on you for comparing this sim to modern sims. Your excitement looks so fake, too! Why are you showing only the Swizz region? (because the rest of the world scenery is blurred and looks like shit!) Your opinion that this flight sim beats MSFS, especially v2024, on many levels is completely inaccurate. At the end of the day, everyone can buy and enjoy whatever they want, but please do not advertise some abandoned projects as exceptionally good! Or at least be honest and mention all aspects of the product you are making a video about. >>> I'm sick of YTs selling every shit they were offered, and most likely for free!

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

I mean no... like heck no! It has the same graohics Ace combat has had for over a dacade now! Also if the Apple vsion Pro was able to run quest OS perfectly then it still would be no! Like if DCS, Ace combat and war thunder can't compete with MSFS 2024 whow can this?!? AlsoI hhighly dodt any VR standalone only game is a better VR expernce then MSFS 2024 as VR only tiles tend to suck at the whole setting tging... But VR modes never do espacly fan made ones and defnatly MSFS 2024... Alaos if you can run MSFS 2024 at max oyted graphics on a Quyest 3 with maxed out over clocked displays.. Then you can run it in standalone just streamed wirelessly from your PC even if your PC is also wireless despite all the warning say as modern top end POCs don't care just work... So yeah what kind of false hope click bait is this!?!?!

[@laubox]

Hi Green, thanks for you big comment, appreciate that! I have never said that Aerofly Beats Msfs 2024 in terms of graphics. But when it comes to Virtual Reality mechanics, performance and overal gameplay - it knocks msfs out of the parc. Sure Msfs has better graphics, but the performance alone and the use of VR controllers is already a reason for me to boot up Aerofly instead of the microsoft sim.

[@mikeymike3760]

Is outperforming a hot steamy pile of shit an accomplishment? JK this game looks amazing- MSFS is dead to me.

[@emarcel-l4i]

MSFS or MSFS 2024? Wait a couple of months, and FS2024 will be polished as a dog's stick in the spring season!

[@mururoa7024]

No hotas no thanks.

[@laubox]

you can hook up your own HOTAS!

[@Swatmat]

have to press buttons in the cockpit.... so like DCS has done for years now...

[@theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439]

What an annoying guy HE TRIES SO HARD and it sounds super fake. Its...."...AB...SO..LUTELY..FANTASTIC.." please. Who speaks like that? Dutch guy I can hear the accent.

[@ipilot1970]

lol 😂 just watching too right now I got to give it to him though I did not know about this game until now and thanks to him now I know lol

[@laubox]

Its called passion! Wait until you sit in the plane yourself within VR!

[@emarcel-l4i]

Read my comment ... 👆

[@tomf5450]

ANYTHING OUT PERFORMS MSFS