My Personal Problems With Seth The Programmer

[@Chefvonbreezy]

Seth could never be this professional. Your calm demeanor is gonna make it difficult for him to speak ill of you. Props to you my man.

[@MutagenStation]

💯

[@SpikeRazzor]

“Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.” - Mike Tyson.

[@rdc6360]

they dont respect u ether way, they just wont say it to avoid problems, the mentallity is still there

[@DemiSamaKun]

"Social media a place where other people with no ideas of their own or value their own words share quotes as if they mean anything" - Demi Sama

[@deplorabledegenerate2630]

Thin skinned people are worse both irl and online. I loathe people that make me feel like I am on eggshells more than any heckler.

[@TophDaGreat]

I've never cared for drama or bullies. Had a friend very similiar to Seth when I was a kid. They don't mind making other people look bad if it makes them look good. People like that aren't your friend. You have always been one of my favorite content creators. Keep up the good work.

[@xlrbossshorts]

Everyone plays a role, and sometimes bullies can be a good thing.

[@thisfreakingguy3833]

I had a friend like that... then he cheated on his wife who was my ex gf .... with my actual gf... peice of shit....

[@chrisbrownie1511]

@@xlrbossshorts found the bully

[@lp-kt1hu]

No just no There is no excuse to mentally torture someone

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Have you ever delt with the actual problems Seth have personally or are you just chill about it.

[@VolatileViolet]

Can I just say? From hearing your voice years ago in collabs with Geekdom, I always really genuinely appreciated your kind-hearted energy and soul. I obviously don't know you well as a person, but you strike me as a legitimately good guy. Here's to hoping the damages from this entire crisis peter out relatively soon and everyone can heal.

[@SomeGuy-mt4hq]

Except seth, screw that guy, he deserves to serve time

[@retrokoh]

THIS. I found LSM through the Geekdom collabs. I don't really follow Geekdom anymore but still follow LSM.

[@Sennodev]

Audience: do you really believe in your hype that much ? Seth : I AM THE HYPE !

[@psyfozim]

Cell: "Kill him!"

[@kimanireid6111]

Tfs vegeta

[@dtay8913]

Nothing but respect for you brother. Get your truth out there. I initially discovered Seth's channel through his "debunking" of your rosé multiplier video. But as time went on I found myself falling in line with your character and how you presented yourself. You've always taken the higher ground on this platform, you've never badmouthed anyone and you've never conformed to what was popular or relevant at the time. It's actually pretty sad someone who essentially bullies others can gain almost 1 million subscribers while smaller hard working channels don't get pushed out by the algorithm. I'm truly glad you are back on here and sharing your opinions on different topics. You aren't afraid to show your face and every time I watch something you upload it's like listening to a friend. Thank you Mike

[@AndrewAce.]

I agree. Mike is a truly honest and respectable guy. Seth is a coward and a bully. It's sad that Mike had to deal with that level of bullshit for all those years because he stood up to a guy who disrespected his colleagues. But it's over now... We can all learn a lesson here...

[@chrislewis7006]

There isn’t any your truth my truth etc truth. There is only the truth. And he is telling the truth

[@donfaber3203]

@@chrislewis7006 Exactly 💯. Thank you

[@famalam943]

Yeah Seth was so confrontational & personal over dumb anime videos. The guy was a total weirdo.

[@bigdoubleu117]

Cringe. "Your truth." There's either The Truth or Lies.

[@fridayrandommedia117]

It's very tough for friends/acquaintances to go work with someone who's attacked you like that, it's such a bad feeling. Good for you putting this video out.

[@AndrewAce.]

At least Mike was vindicated in the end. I want to believe that what he said is true, and the truth *does* always have it's day...

[@PlagueOfGripes]

Most DB people have had some sort of negative interaction with him. I got the impression he was deeply troubled, and easy enough to ignore. But he also has/had a close discord community that would band together like a gang to spread rumors, doxx or harass people they didn't like or just felt like targeting. Mostly little angry kids, of course. We all know the type. As expected, he turned on them as well. It's just surprising it took this long to get out. It's the same general story most abusers and toxic personalities have, except he had a huge platform that served to gather them together and create even bigger issues. And since it's the DB community, a lot of creators jumped to his defense simply because of the face he let them see. Hopefully now with more visibility people will stop enabling this sort of thing, even if I've seen he still has a huge group of supporters who don't care or even want to see him continue most of his behaviors. And yes, he needs professional help. But regardless of why people like this are made, it has to stop. Young people especially love to congregate around drama and crazed personalities that they can watch from a distance and encourage anonymously, since it's not their problem. It's not just him; it's the bubble around that part of the community. Even if he vanished, it's still happening because it's allowed to happen.

[@DarkAuraLord]

Was wondering if this had made it's way to your sphere, given your past content on both Dragonball(z) and Naruto. You hit the nail on the head - that part of the community has severe issues that need to be addressed, regardless of any individual.

[@johnnyphesto1247]

Did you ever finish building that fence?

[@SmartAlec1]

Remember when seth got mad at you for saying “stronger than time” is dumb

[@freezasama5802]

Plague your Tien and Gohan Videos are amazing would you ever consider doing a Raditz or Krillin video it would be incredible anyways great analysis on Seth

[@andnl9819]

It's funny that Seth would accuse someone of not knowing what a persona is, when there is zero difference between his persona and real self

[@xenencross1717]

His mask has finally been exposed.

[@Hip-Gnosis1134]

@@xenencross1717 and like a weird scooby doo episode, they take the mask off only to see another mask 😂

[@TreyHallRH3]

What's crazy is that I doubt seth is like that in real life. Most people are like that on line because they get or have been bullied in real life

[@andnl9819]

@@TreyHallRH3 I meant as in that's who he is. No way he's like that in real life, you can't act like a super villain without getting the real haymaker

[@TreyHallRH3]

@@andnl9819 Agreed

[@hattoripool1533]

SeththeProgrammer became Edp445 now he’s joining him in the Cupcake realm

[@YodaSmokes]

Yikes there’s a some brutal crimes being committed in this comment thread 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Caleb_Amamiya]

Stp445

[@elvinr6207]

@@Caleb_Amamiya EDP multiverse is growing

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

now powerscale EDP and Seth

[@BillCipherandFreddyKreugerFan]

Which is a high outerversal realm not bound by narratives

[@jimmymcgill7370]

Glad to hear your take - respect you for seeing things clearly early on and being the bigger person!

[@skygalvan1880]

I'm a huge Dragon Ball fan ... I used to eat up all the content I could find I think at one point or another I've watched dozens of every KZbin content creators videos some well-known some lesser known and you and geekdom101 are the only ones I still watch regularly... I never thought about why I stopped watching Seth the programmer but you said it right... he has a condescending tone... I hope you keep making videos... I'm Glad You Came Back

[@IaMaPh1991]

Man... with the number of videos I've seen come out in the last 24 hours, I think we can safely say this dude's legacy is FUBAR'd.

[@SlickSkuddy]

People are trying to point fingers at people calling him out from a place of “jealousy” or “revenge” but that kinda loses its ground when so many people tell the same story about him.

[@DALKurumiTokisaki]

@@SlickSkuddy not to mention people unrelated to the community catching wind and reporting on what's going on.

[@marinenico1993]

Seth burnt too many bridges, bullied too many people, to the point where there was no return, he honestly had it coming

[@just_dylan_official]

ive only seen 2 videos on the subject yet, this one and Clydes video: Why i stopped working with Seth the programmer. As a complete outsider who enjoyed Seths anime analysises videos i can say this is a complete shock for me.

[@tator3755]

@@just_dylan_official Seth always wore being a dick out in the open.... but didn't realize he was this bad

[@dionysisnance4204]

the more and more i hear about this the more i believe Seth bought into his own hype

[@marinenico1993]

He’s literally the father of powerscalers, he popped off on goku vs superman, by bullying death battle

[@ThreatLevelGod]

The man really is a walking stereotype of the Dragon Ball and powerscaling communities. Takes all the negative things people believe about them and put them into one guy. Maybe him being so big is one of the major contributing factors to this look. After all he as been an asshole for years and yet people loved his stuff anyway if it was pro their favorite character

[@AntwanMackJr]

@@marinenico1993 he’s also a loser

[@AntwanMackJr]

@@marinenico1993 he’s also a loser

[@fulltimeslackerii8229]

@@marinenico1993his power scaling was always stupid and way off the mark. idk how he gained a following

[@elvinr6207]

Can Seth powerscale his allegations? Find out on the next time in EDP Ball Z

[@AndrewAce.]

Allegations tierlist F - being a dick S - Grooming a chick

[@andnl9819]

@@AndrewAce. pushing your friend who has a history of suicide attempts towards suicide has got to be A tier

[@AndrewAce.]

@@andnl9819 I'd give that an S+, if not SS. "A" would be like how he scammed thousands upon thousands of dollars, and derailed a crossover project that might have included OFFICIAL voice actors. Something that may never happen again just because of how he destroyed everyone's faith in these projects...

[@andnl9819]

@@AndrewAce. Like it's really, really bad. I just don't know if I can put in the same tier as trying to groom a teenager, and then trying again after she opens up about her SA, then following her to sexually harass her at a later date.

[@AndrewAce.]

@@andnl9819 He also borderline did it to Clyde. Clyde himself had those same ideations, and Seth didn't give AF about potentially ruining his channel. Truly frightening how little some people care if you die...

[@KozmicHand]

You are a true OG to this community. It’s unfortunate that your voice was silenced by the toxic environment and community this individual created. I hope to see you gain more support in the future.

[@LostLesTwin]

a true og doent get sensative over another mans pride smh yall acting like beta males

[@KozmicHand]

@@LostLesTwin look at your pfp lmfao enough said

[@quotivation47]

I have more respect for this guy now. Mike you are awesome brother. Glad to see you back.

[@famalam943]

And Seth was so unnecessarily confrontational & personal over dumb anime videos. Always thought the guy was a weirdo. I remember the strange situation at the time Mike, I think he’s a prime example of how toxic the nature of this ‘community’ can be. And for no reason

[@romanvalentine1629]

You know, it’s shocking what I am able to remove myself from when it comes to content consumption. I will enjoy a show even knowing these aren’t the best of people. Seth is one such example. I loved listening to his videos when I’m working out or writing my own books. I even judged a few debates in his favor when I viewed them. I liked and subscribed and watched when I could. This is probably what feeds their egos. And if I had looked, I’d probably have seen the signs way back then. But I was just here for the show.

[@user-pr4cm6wz4d]

Been a long time subscriber and love ur content. Love hearing everyone's personal experiences.

[@TonyRead31]

You are an absolute legend Laughing StockMedia, miss your uploads buddy.

[@diildovah8399]

Seth did the same thing to a KZbinr in the comic book community. I'll keep them unnamed because that person has long since moved on from the situation, and Seth deleted all those videos years ago so I doubt anyone would be able to find the video I'm going to mention anyway. But this was around 2015/2016 iirc. The KZbinr in question made a video along the lines of "Jiren vs The Justice League" or something like that. He also made some tweets directed at the power scaling community, pointing out how silly it was to debate who could beat who when at the end of the day, the writers of the story determine who the winner is not the character's powers. And this viewpoint is kind of an ongoing joke within the Comic Book community, specifically the Super Hero comic book community. Sure, we can debate all day if Spider-Man can beat The Hulk, but more often than not Spider-Man is going to win even though The Hulk is clearly stronger than him, because the writers are going to let the more popular character win. This is where Seth's video came in. I had never heard of SethTheProgrammer before this video, and he had a video "calling out" said Comic Book KZbinr claiming to "debunk" his arguments. So I clicked the video thinking it was going to be this interesting video explaining the nuances of the characters and their powers, but no. All it was was Seth and his friend, can't remember who but likely Chuck, personally insulting the KZbinr for around 15 or so minutes, barely discussing the actual subject of the video. And when they DID discuss it, it just boiled down to "Obviously Jiren would win, you would be an idiot to think otherwise." After watching this I just put his channel on the "Do not recommend" list on KZbin and didn't think about him again until all this controversy got brought up. Seth just seems like a very miserable person, after hearing his victims talk about how he treated them. Like he's the type of person who hates himself and his life so much that he just has to project that hatred on everyone else around him to make himself feel better or superior. Honestly not surprised in the least he got outed for stuff like this, though I do hope Seth leaves the internet and get's the help he needs through therapy, and turns his life around.

[@bitterthenu7278]

Im glad your back, really enjoying the newer videos

[@mikelxanadu]

I almost didn’t even have to watch this. They had this inexplicable hate boner for you. I remember Geekdom stepping in multiple times to stand up for you against Seth’s fans on Twitter (props to Geekdom for being a good friend). Chuck seems to have grown up since then, but Seth stayed the same.

[@jobdylan5782]

to be fair it's very funny to make fun of mike

[@mikelxanadu]

@@jobdylan5782 Maybe so. And I think Mike has enough a sense of humor to deal with it. But they really did go a little too far on more than one occasion. Surely we can agree on that.

[@jobdylan5782]

@@mikelxanadu tbh i've only seen them do it once and it was really funny. maybe they do like harass him but i've not seen it

[@jasonpamatmat3797]

Communities outside of anime are joining forces to take down seth holy crap insane.

[@docvince1491]

Seth will now be used as a punchline. In the same vein as EDP, DSP, Wings of Redemption and Chris Chan. As well as a sociopath that took fictional characters fighting each other too seriously.

[@trustworthyh3ro267]

Yea, big red-flag I noticed years ago was him constantly insulting KuroTheArtist for having a reasonable belief on why Ben10 could turn into and beat Alien characters like Goku and Superman.

[@julianp.7697]

@@trustworthyh3ro267 I don't like Seth, but the constant Ben 10 wank I see all over the internet is cringeworthy. There's no way he's beating either Goku or Superman - even with Alien X.

[@trustworthyh3ro267]

@@julianp.7697 bro I stopped caring about debates that are like Goku, Supes, and Saitama. It just boils down to who you like more now. I can quantify Spiderman picking up cars and holding up buildings, but not Ben holding universes together, Supes punching reality or Goku crazy amps. I'd get more in depth, but it'll be a wasted breathe on an old topic with varying opinions.

[@christianglass9139]

@@trustworthyh3ro267 I just tell everyone there fiction level their power isn’t real so no one wins lol

[@marlonb.4017]

Seth might be a horrible person but he’s a good power scaler and debater for sure, let’s not attack his content, wasn’t even mostly written by him anyways lol

[@awaisahmed9418]

Well done mike. You stood by your morals and ethics and you had your friends back. ❤️

[@2tired2sleep2]

This is crazy the first time I ever heard of Seth was when he was beefing with another KZbinr that changed his name already to something else, but I think his name was “Kuru the artist” or something like that, but when seeing the back-and-forth go you can already tell Seth was clearly delusional. I remember even back then thinking damn this Seth guy is a complete doofus. Never could I have expected for it to be so much worse

[@Triple87]

Thankfully Clyde came out. Gives people who didn’t speak up room to finally breathe. That guy is finished, and I’m glad he is. The internet will not let him rest. He deserves everything he gets. This is his build up of Karma. Years of abuse, karma comes back hard.

[@Tone_Of_Dials]

Years of "abuse" that could be stopped with a simple push of a button on a keyboard...cry me a river

[@Triple87]

@@Tone_Of_Dials Oh, do explain. This should be fucking golden. 😂😂

[@schemar17]

Nah F clyde he's a weirdo to

[@Triple87]

@@Tone_Of_Dials How adorable. Talking out of your ass like you know anything about me. It’s clear you didn’t actually listen to that whole video Clyde posted. 😂😂😂 All Clyde had his KZbin, and Seth could have easily taken all of that away and nobody would have believed him. He couldn’t simply just “click a button” and it be over. If you had any brain in that thick skull of yours, you would know it isn’t that simple. Before you start typing your troll bullshit, maybe do your own research. Youre embarrassing yourself. Go find something better to do with your life other than chirping people on the internet. Do something productive. Maybe go watch Clyde’s whole video and gain some perspective on the situation. Seth abused his power, mentally abused women, and admitted to asking for pictures from a minor. Pretty abusive, wouldn’t you say?? You want to defend that? You’re just as big of a piece of shit as Seth is. Get fucked you waste of space.

[@bigchillinpodcast]

@@Tone_Of_Dials lol you sound like a smooth brained individual

[@danteespinoza8119]

That's awful. I never subscribed to his channel I saw a collab with you and with geekdom outside of that I never got interested in his channel. You are doing an amazing job doing these videos. Keep at it

[@chrisg2022]

Glad to see that you are doing great and nothing affected you. Karma is real!

[@DanTheMeek]

Don't know this seth person, sounds like I don't want to know him, but as a long time subscriber, just want to say that the energy you brought in this video is why I love this channel. Your videos bring calm and joy to what can some times be a chaotic life. While hope you continue making videos, even if you never made another one, know you made my life a little better through the content you've already put out. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for that!

[@kanaryuuu]

I'm so sorry, Mike. Now, let's smoke that Seth pack.

[@xeniaruby6343]

Yes finally another KZbin not scared to tell the truth thanks fam we appreciate it honesty

[@Markbro101]

Love your content- a shame seth couldn’t grow a pair when dealing with you. You’re such a calm dude, Mike.

[@FSAPOJake]

I said years ago, way back in 2016, that Seth was a d-bag. He would belittle, laugh at, and talk down to people he debated. He secretly recorded a conversation with someone and uploaded it as a debate. He would unironically insult his viewers. A lot of DBTubers on here swept his behavior under the rug, and now a lot of those same people are acting all shocked that this stuff is coming out, even though it should have been obvious years ago that there's something seriously wrong with him.

[@tylerberman7527]

All those same people who would keep quiet who never spoke up decide it's now the time to be speaking up, it disgusts me tbh

[@AnassLouisOfficial]

@@tylerberman7527 one of the only people ive seen comment this. i could understand if the news of Seth coming out was new and he was still that same kid. but this shit is literally minimum three to four years ago.

[@tylerberman7527]

@@AnassLouisOfficial yeah and I use to be around those discords and I've heard most of these people talk in private discussions yeeeaars back, let me tell you almost every single one of these people is a piece of garbage, and what they're doing is throwing out the biggest piece of garbage to "i believe" hide there own stench. Like, think about it, seth has been like this for so long, and the way these guys stayed on his good side, was by literally bullying other people with seth, they're liable.

[@AnassLouisOfficial]

@@tylerberman7527 ngl to u. the way my life has gone, i was taught to be a realist and fair about everything, and make it a point to leave biased opinions out of my conclusions on people and situations. when i first saw clydes video, and i kept watching and saw the dates of all the shit seth said to everyone, i already was instantly detached from it, bc i first hand witnessed many livestreams two to three years ago where seth stated that the main reason he left the discord debate community he was in was because it was causing him to actually become toxic like that all the time. at first it was a “schtick” but he had been that way for so long day in and out, that he left it and wiped his PinPin channel of all the debates bc he thought being like that was terrible. i was there when he admitted that 2 or 3 years ago

[@AnassLouisOfficial]

@@tylerberman7527 not only that, as u have said, damn near everyone in that stream two days ago, with the exception of maybe Swagkage, all used to be toxic ass individuals, because they all came from SAID debate community. The only reason they weren’t grilled either is because Seth was the largest figure in the room. Coupled with soooo much biasy and taking all the he said-she said at face value just to cook this man infront of the world for mistakes he admitted he made years ago. I was literally boiling in my seat. I could see if he went on there and acted like nothing was true and that everyone was lying. But he legit said “I had and still have problems , I have been trying to work on them and I do apologize to everyone I have hurt for my all over the place behavior. I am moody still. And i said things that i shouldnt have.” He said that shit like 100 times. Right then , the conversation should have been over. I guess i value taking accountability far more seriously than most people in todays age , as its the best thing a human can do and the first step towards reforming oneself. But the internet nowadays just loves to cook people anyway without a chance to become a better person. If any of those other people attacking Seth wouldve been in the hotseat too, they would be feeling like shit too.

[@johnsmith8562]

out of all dragon ball youtubers you are one of my favorite, not only because we share the same name but I love your approach to videos. They are informative and interesting and you seem like a very kind person. Thank you for all your content

[@goliathxanatos706]

As a person he's hurt back in 2017, I'm glad the things he's done has finally come to light. Moreover, I just want closure for the people who got emotionally traumatise and abused by his despicable actions and words. Glad to hear your side of the story btw, I respect your view and am happy to see you come out in your own interactions with Seth.

[@julianp.7697]

Were you a content creator of somesort?

[@goliathxanatos706]

@@julianp.7697 Nah, just a debater who liked to hear others opinions. Remember G+? I was avid user on that. Came across Seth on a video posted there and he just ended up being just a complete douchbag to me. There's more but I'd rather not get into it here

[@onlyechadtherebellious2467]

Sup Vladimir Kane or Vasha

[@JeremyB8419]

The whole "that's what your video becomes about" thing... I think Geekdom does that in a lot of his videos unintentionally. He'll comment about haters or drama or whatever on a video about a DB topic, and before you know it, you've watched 15 minutes about haters or drama or whatever when you really just wanted to hear about the topic lol

[@concept5631]

Seth always had sus takes and now he's sus in-general. Edit: Good God I knew he was a questionable individual but this is disturbing.

[@tylerberman7527]

He isnt a pedo or a groomer but he is disturbed and has said fucked up things for the sake of being fucked up

[@zanzax6438]

Thank you for this video, I was subscribed to Seth before this. I enjoy your content, much more than his, and after so many other people sharing their experiences I feel like I can move on from watching Seth’s videos.

[@Whit3WolfXArcadia]

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

[@AndrewAce.]

Or you can just be a villain from the start...

[@BillCipherandFreddyKreugerFan]

He was never a hero

[@geg708]

_Nah Seth already showed red flags years ago like when he bullied TotallyNotMark because of power levels_

[@Rieky22]

He was always a villain lmao

[@supersaiyanwrastler2343]

I’ve never really watched your videos but the the difference between you and Seth professionally is night and day. You’re response really makes him seem like an edgy 12 year old compared to a functioning adult lmao

[@WhatTheGame]

I honestly do remember back in 2017 when I was watching you, Geekdom, Mastarmedia, Seth and Chuck that both Seth and Chuck would frequently bring your name up in a negative connotation in their videos, I never cared much for them making fun of other peoples opinions at all though, back then super was still huge and I just liked watching what peoples opinions on things were.

[@krowdajuiceman]

I remember all this man. Im glad youre getting your stuff out that brother.

[@midsectionmark8956]

Hey hey laughingstock media thanks so much for updating. I could tell he has his problems and entertaining KZbinrs like you have really good energy and shouldn’t be treated like that. I’m glad you took time to focus on the real world and life .

[@MutagenStation]

I like your energy, very calm, and great narrative voice. Sorry you had to go through all that.

[@StarWarsExplored]

Good on you for distancing yourself early-on when so many let things slide until it was far too late.

[@jadestep9624]

Ever since I really got into the Dragonball series around the end of my school years. Looked around for Content creators first stuff like sources and legit Cannon info then I could learn from. Software programmer was someone I immediately didn't like. He always seemed to take the fictional media franchise FAR too seriously. I understand being passionate about something you care about but then there's people like that then just bring it to a whole new level of flat out disturbing and uncomfortably over-the-top. Just when I was about to give up looking for a good Dragon Ball channel to enjoy, I've been found laughingstock media. I watched a few videos subscribed and the rest is history. Thank you for always being so kind impatient with your audience despite if they're my hardcore fans, or new to it like I was. People like you are prime examples of what role models should be in fanbases. You're simply there to teach others more about the franchise that we all share love for but at the same time being humble, respectful and honest. Thank-you laughingstock media. Have a wonderful week.💗

[@redmagick5]

I'm glad that your okay and I'm sorry that this happened to you, I'm happy that you was able to move on from this. Life is much bigger then this guy. I've always enjoyed your content when you did upload

[@Crow_Rising]

The internet is basically just high school. Everyone gets obsessed with their image and social status, and it causes them to do terrible things to each other in an attempt to elevate themselves.

[@dbwillrise8]

Hey bro, seeing you after years. It's nice to see that you took care of your health and sllimmed down alot. Good job.👍👍

[@bigchillinpodcast]

Hi Mike!!!!! Hope you’ve been well man! You’re such a great guy and content creator for our Dbz community. Thanks to Quinn I got to see your videos in highschool and as a grown man now, I support you 100% in this situation. I’ll miss the knowledge and creativity Seth gave us BUT not his attitude and abuse towards his collaborators like y’all. ❤❤❤❤

[@Fred63205]

I'm tickled to death that people (I mean the same) are crazy critical over a cartoon like db, but ignore anything illogical with live action like the avengers for example

[@Jociaoftrades]

I did sense in one of his videos that he was reverting to his more ego self. I think it was a Super Hero livestream or such where he started being like I was always right like always. There I sensed maybe his ego is getting to him. He needs to find help if he wants to get out of this with some respect.

[@RevoluShane]

A lot of respect for holding true to your moral compass, shame others in our community couldn't do so.

[@theneocypher]

I just found you and you have quickly become my favorite DBZ channel. Thank you! 🙏

[@Nephalem2002]

Jesus Christ what is with these last 3 Years and the amount of drama reveals we’ve been getting. Its like everyone’s turning out to be either a bully, Pedo or a Lolcow.

[@Rieky22]

Welcome to the internet 🤠

[@artizzy2k2k]

What the heck is a lolcow

[@Nephalem2002]

@@artizzy2k2k Ever heard of Chris Chan? That’s a lolcow.

[@JJKHB]

Love your shit man, been watching you for years and was sad to see you go. Im glad you're back and making videos again! You look great too!

[@AstraFulminous]

I'm sorry for what happened to you. I went through something similar and am still going through the consequence of someones else abuse today. I am glad you got to air your grievances.

[@robertwilson7259]

Its sad to hear about Seth, its such wasted potential honestly, whats crazy is if he had been nicer, he might have any even bigger channel then he already did, I enjoyed his outlook on the massive bloating he did in the series Dude I feel you on ssj rose. Goku black is my second favorite villian in the series, and I love ssj rose. But its multiplier is fucking wack. Is base black blue tier or 50x weaker with Vegeta supressing his power? Is ssj rose actually a ssj blue mutliplier on top of his already ridiculously strong base that is way above ssj2 goku (post god now)? ssj blue vegeta holding back that much to only be slightly weaker than ssj rose goku is ridiculous too, and its hard to say he was that much stronger then blue goku and blue vegeta either because he needed a peircing ki blade to beat them as fast as he did, and even then Goku survived a kamehema from him when immortal zumasu grabbed him from behind. I still dont know how strong base black goku should be considered, and even 50x with ssj rose seems to be a bit to much considering how well he did against blue vegeta before transforming, almost like he was already using most of his power and ssj rose just gave him an additive boost, maybe the essence of the transformation boosted his base power before the mutation process of the form took place.

[@blessedxxiii5583]

have been watching your dbz channel for years appreciate the content from a genuine person💯

[@theace8502]

I used to buy into his hype. Whenever he made that video with chuck about you, I certainly was on their side. Haven't felt that way in years, and I'm glad I changed . Like to think maybe I matured. Anyway, his debates if you even wanna call them that were never really in good faith to begin with. Yelling and talking over your opponent or insulting them or doing all of those things in some order is not a real debate, and it doesn't make someone actually intelligent. You sir, however, are soft spoken and very calm and to me you seem very intellectual. I'm sorry you dealt with all that

[@childofembers]

I love seeing the snes and super game boy in the background. More relevant to the video topic, I am glad you walked away from making content with stp. Anytime he collabs the video is just people talking over each other

[@ShinFahima]

I can't get enough of this drama. I need some more.

[@Phantom-Neon]

Very respectable video, calm and well spoken I dont mind civil disagreements but seth always gave me a wierd vibe i didnt want to be around P.s i know this isnt relevant but nice guitar in the background, i play too

[@sarascrambles3707]

The entire situation makes me sad. Keep doing what you're doing, your content is great. Toxic people will always be toxic, all you can do is remove yourself from the fallout zone. ❤️

[@DBShikamaru]

You and geekdom were the pillars for a dbz nerd like me to find extra lore and fun what ifs. Never thought Seth was like this just thought he had a more aggressive personality. Keep doing you you're moral compass is immaculate 💯

[@MourningCoffeeMusic]

I remember the ducks !! You never had to debate them; you made the right decision. Especially considered who Seth actually was irl.

[@jphataraki6764]

Mike looking and being more of a Chad with each successive video, somebody stop this mad man!

[@thefanficdinosaur7621]

Your voice is perfect. I could listen all day!

[@robinsonsonic]

This is a very well-reasoned, rational, and put-together summation of your feelings on the situation, mad respect for your professionalism in handling this, LM. I'm very disappointed as a longtime follower of Seth's, or now as it's come to be known, Clyde, Noodles, and others' work, but I won't lose a second of sleep unfollowing his channel. I hope he gets some professional and necessary help.

[@spooderdude5949]

Im suprised you don't have a problem with the Saiyan Scholar, he will die on the rock of "GT is the best and anyone who likes super or doesn't like GT is wrong" he's also attacked fans of his who don't agree with him, it really sucks to see how toxic the Dragon Ball community can be when this series has great potential to bring others together.

[@mickomoo]

Didn’t know you were still making content. Good to see you’re well and heartwarming to see you haven’t been changed/jaded by the BS that can come with being an online personality.

[@tomtomtombangbang]

Ahhh, I have been listening to the KZbin dragonball fan base for years. I liked seth and chucks videos they were funny but the guy needs to find chill. Your a good man and I have apreaciated your videos over the years as well. It's okay that you dip in and lives your life. That's adult. Looking forward to more 😀

[@bobbysmitty1628]

It's a shame that people can't just be fans of cartoons without being toxic and unpleasant. What has American culture been reduced to? You can't even just play a video game, read a manga or a comic book without it being a drama show.

[@Ash-bd6jz]

i respect the way you approached this.. you haven't been malicious or insulted him you merely stating facts

[@BloodravenRivers]

hey man im new to your channel and of course as a db and anime fan in general i went to see what seth had to say about you i couldnt fint the video maybe he removed it but still, its sad to think that to db fans cant collab on a video because of lil clout chasers i mean we are a misunderstood fanbase as it is we dont need to argue with each other. i applaud calm cool and respectful manner in which u addressed it, honestly that quality alone shows who would win the debate

[@Yggdraseed]

This is literally the first I've heard of all this bullshit around Seth the Programmer. I didn't even know about the way he'd been exposed. But I guess it's just a little fitting that a guy who's so obsessed with power leveling and never seemed to care much about anything else in anime or manga would be so obsessed with having power over other people and inflicting pain on them or putting them down just to feel superior.

[@ActualPayne]

Thanks very much for sharing your experience on the matters regarding Seth. I was always an avid fan of his content up until I was informed by you and the YT community regarding his pathetic toxicity. So given that & considering your maturity in dealing with this stuff & with how you conveyed it, you’ve gained a new subscriber & Seth will be losing me as a subscriber from here on as watching your video was the final straw that needed to be pulled for the Camel’s back to have been broken. So given that: Laughing Stock Media: 1 Seth The Programmer: 0 ✌🏼

[@Soadaa5656]

This video aged very well with all the other allegations with him. I never knew any of this details with the power scaling community (as a casual viewer), but im definitely staying away from his videos now.

[@wingedbluj1674]

When I first watched a SethTheProgrammer video, his whole attitude and tone of voice gave off that whole egotistical and self-centered vibe that turned me away from his content. I guess I was right about my gut feeling on the guy.

[@Kalinbuggs]

So geekdom knew about this and still work with him ?!

[@gr8b8m85]

I remember Seth and some others bullying Laughinstock in their videos back in the day, not sure if they're still up. Over the multiplier for SSJ Rose or something? Man's a sociopath who has had multiple chances to change, like when he had that falling out with Swagkage a few years ago, yet he learned nothing, and the toxic "edgy debater" environment he cultivated protected him. This was a long time coming.

[@WeBarelySober]

Yo I'm glad that you and Chuck are on good terms. Chuck's Godzilla powerscaling is pretty dope and I love a DB KZbinr to collab with him and discuss some crossovers.

[@0errab0]

Some people just love smelling their own backdraft, I say leave them to it. Do what you love and love what you do, the haters don't matter.

[@FrantifaSuperSoldier]

Even though I miss you making Dragonball content I know you had good reasons for walking away and I hope your mental health is better for it

[@the.real.novatic1]

It's shame because I subscribed, to him, your channel, Qaaman, and other big youtubers. I'm thinking this site is big enough for all of us to grow. Too bad cats like Seth don't see it that way, and is resorting to insults and bullying as a hail Mary attempt to to make themselves appear great. I pray that he reaches the point soon where he surrenders his life to the Most High and get deliverance from that mind set.

[@Obad87]

Turns out dudes got a lot more problems than this. He's a real creep.

[@julianp.7697]

The contrast to your reaction and Geekdom's is very interesting. Geekdom seems to be way too sympathetic toward Seththeprogrammer, while you're more on the case against him. Though it makes sense, since you were more affronted from Seth and his fans.

[@darkriku234]

Dude had a hard childhood and it’s all over the internet so who vares

[@julianp.7697]

@@darkriku234 Having a "hard" childhood isn't an excuse to be an asshole. A lot of people have horrible or deficit childhoods. Geekdom's misplaced sympathy is idiotic, considering the extent of how bad Seththeprogrammer is.

[@errwhattheflip]

@@julianp.7697 I don't agree. He's certainly being too soft on him, but calling it idiotic isn't fair

[@darkriku234]

@@julianp.7697 nah. Sometimes geekdom is mean but he’s a lot older than seth and has worked on his issues. It’s fine. Those other people were just as bad.

[@mikegregory4386]

Also I don't think geekdom had the same level or type of interactions with seth.

[@Nod4]

I honestly believe everyone around Seth, all of his former friends (including Clyde) were all toxic. I remember joining a server that had Seth in it and from listening to debate VCs, they really all act like toxic children.

[@Nikorasu1048]

You saying all this makes me like and respect you even more. You're an awesome person 👍

[@donavanboykin9489]

It's sad that he's being uncovered this way. All of his success is trickling down the drain in front of his very eyes. Thank you for sharing your story! On a lighter note, I'd love a review of the Zelda series from you! (I see that Wind Waker poster in the background😏😂)

[@bryanrivera6025]

Man, to think a KZbinr that I watched only a few videos of was doing messed up shit like this, and I only didn’t find out sooner a out his true character because I never dived deep into his content.His actions better make him truly suffer for what he has done, I have no empathy or sympathy for toxic individuals like Seth!!!

[@ruleroftheundersky570]

Hah! We're both crazies. I got bookmarks riddled into my Dragon Ball Manga collection as well for research/information purposes, etc.

[@RipVonGraves]

10:41 this is what I needed to hear throughout these few days. My heart goes out to you and thank you for being a righteous, Godly man! This is what this platform needs much respect

[@aydon5948]

W video laughingstock

[@asamckenzie827]

This is definitely the best video on the subject. Grown Men don’t make 2 hour videos about nothing really.

[@bodega294]

It’s a Seth free for all out here 😂 even Laughingstock Mike came out of retirement for his “Me Too” moment

[@SumTr011]

Hey LSM! Longtime viewer of many years. I'm just happy to see you still producing quality content. I kind of always knew from a glance that STP was no good, you could gleam it from his demeanor that he really had an ego trip and was generally rude to other content creators. You handled this as professionally as I feel anyone could have, glad to still be watching.