Fridgestuck: Calliope (Facts/Theories)

[@shadowwwwwwwwwww]

also calliope is a wannabe troll while caliborn is an actual troll. like, an internet troll.

[@hauntedhoody2976]

GODDAMNIT HUSSIE

[@thekidinyourbasement8371]

I like to imagine that Calliope and Caliborn both have a feminine voice with a cockney accent since they have the same vocal cords. Fucking hilarious-

[@tsunderecat413]

>hating on a fandom is still technically being a part of a fandom never really thought of it that way. that's interesting and true.

[@doggerlander]

Being a dedicated hater is practically calignous romance

[@shyscorpio2003]

Also I think now we need a full video on CALIBORN now

[@eridanampora3024]

Wait how was your comment from 2 days ago

[@shyscorpio2003]

eridan ampora THATS a good fucking question I don’t know

[@eoinsexton8471]

This quite confusing

[@julius9943]

yes please

[@temporaltoast9692]

4 seconds long “Yeah, he’s an asshole.”

[@vagabondfrog5046]

Callie is such a sweetheart!!! I’m so glad she got happy ending with everyone, she deserves it after going through the abuse her brother did to her.

[@quacadoodle3839]

You mean cheating in chess?

[@texasred8424]

​@@quacadoodle3839 mainly that, but also a small case of murder.

[@felixthelemon978]

How does Hussie add so many references to everything everywhere all the time hOW

[@trielt1]

Some of it could be coincidence.

[@user-vw4xp5nt9f]

these mostly seem like coincidence

[@baltofarlander2618]

@@user-vw4xp5nt9f those are anything but coincidental. I sometimes feel like if Homestuck was planned for years actually, or maybe unnatural in origin.

[@spiderq848]

Just remember, no one hates Homestuck more than Homestucks 😂

[@baltofarlander2618]

Based

[@radicool8328]

Just like no one hates Weezer more than Weezer fans

[@doublepistolandawink]

@@radicool8328 especially homestuck fans who like weezer (like me 🤯🤯)

[@Poltard]

@@doublepistolandawink I mean who hasn’t listen to weezer atleast a few times…

[@timaeusTechnopath]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@doublepistolandawink as another homestuck fan and weezer listener this is very real and true

[@bingcrosbygaming616]

Can you do troll will Smith next

[@temporaltoast9692]

We need this please

[@Piccadilly_]

If I remember correctly, Hussie disproved Calliopes assumption that classes such as Muse/Lord are exclusive to a certain sex, meaning that Callie was just making an educated guess (she strongly believed in). As to Space being a very passive Aspect, I think that it is difficult attributing the active/passive duality to the Aspects, since that's what the Classes are for. Lastly, whether Time is its "active counterpart" is debatable. I suppose there is still plausible uncertainty, as to whether certain Classes are active or passive. I personally like the interpretation of the Knight (passive), Page (active), and so on. making Dave actually a *passive* Time player. Discourse on the internet has made me wary, which is why I wanted to say that none of this is meant as confrontational, but as a helpful insight/comment.

[@nsane9998]

When I first read Calliope's name in the comic, I thought it was pronounced sort of like cantaloupe.

[@Hunk_Streams]

Nsane99 she’s just a happy green melon

[@gloomylobster111]

I thought it was pronounced Cal-e-ope

[@nsane9998]

@@gloomylobster111 Yeah! That's what I meant lol.

[@Fearlessfool2001]

Gloomy Lobster I thought the same thing

[@thebiolibrary5572]

Gloomy Lobster same

[@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275]

Can I just point out... You've never mentioned once how bad the kids have it in the session. Sburb would suck to play in real life

[@liamwhite3522]

That's just a fact of Sburb. No need to mention it when discussing subtext and meanings when it is the text.

[@dimensionenby3733]

SORYY BROKEN IS LOCKCAPS , PLAY TO wAnTStill Crazy I

[@dimensionenby3733]

SORRY

[@trielt1]

I'd still play it. A chance at immortality, you know. Also, flying. And potentially some cool powers. Side effect: lose your planet and potentially live forever in a barren planetary system. Also, minions / Dersites. Worth it.

[@rockhistoria2537]

It's basically Sword Art Online but actually well made

[@JudgeSabo]

11:45 Hecka Jef is the Muse of Time.

[@juliantorres3495]

Ha a reference to canwc finally I found one

[@cisnt9244]

HECKA JEFF

[@seraphinasullivan4849]

Karkat also ended up with a Space player (Jade) and a Time player (Dave) As for a Muse of Time, Knights are much more passive than most realize. They are more reactive than proactive and serve others through their journey before they serve themselves. So just like Dave had a lot of conflicted feelings about who and what he was supposed to be as someone who naturally serves others through an active aspect, I think the effect would be magnified in someone even more Passive, like a Muse

[@matthewflugstad8023]

I started reading Homestuck recently and when I learned about Caliope being a BRITICH ALIEN, I had to read it as Jodey Widikers doctor

[@shyscorpio2003]

OH YEAH MR.KRABS

[@jasonnguyen6820]

Shy Scorpio 2 days ago waaat

[@thatsithis]

5:52: BillWurtz! Love your videos. Thanks for making them!

[@maniacAblaze]

jen: Asclepius captions: *ass creepiest*

[@pastelricky]

I know this video is 4 years old, but I really feel the need to point this out as a intersex person: Intersex is not caused by incest. Intersex is a chromosomal/genetic disorder ANYONE can be born with. Your parents can be from opposite sides of the world, zero family relations, and you can be born intersex. There are certain additional conditions that can happen if incest is involved with the intersex offspring. The video really did not make that clear, and this issue a very damaging and common misunderstanding because we don't teach about intersex condtions in health class.

[@quillzhearts74]

"Pansy" "This is why the cat is the brains of this operation" nice

[@sk4ae]

I don't know how to react when there is a new fridgestuck

[@jasonnguyen6820]

Soviet Chicken I react with a seizure.

[@heynae2016]

5:19 that's awesome, imagine Calliope in her soft British tone and then she reverts to Caliborn who's just louder in tone and filled with profanity, like "YOU RANCID PIECE OF HORSE TROT, I OUGHTA SHOOT OUT YOUR FACKING THROATS!"

[@scuzzbug]

Calliope is my precious baby and nobody can say otherwise (Edit: also, ending is gold)

[@mycaryan1899]

Two requests I'm dying for: 1) An isolated clip of the ending 2) An episode on Caliborn Please and thank you.

[@radwolf76]

As always an informative infodump from Jen, teaching me things I hadn't noticed on my own. One fact that I was expecting to hear mentioned here when the video got to the part about Calliope's wand, is that Act 7 opens with Alt-Dead Calliope lifting that wand in what may be a callback to the title of Act 2: "RAISE OF THE CONDUCTOR'S BATON". The Cal & Cal as conductors theory did get mentioned, but the visuals in the first few seconds of Act 7 really strongly support it.

[@aja5014]

the one dislike is from caliborn

[@SalemsRising]

The other 6 are also from caliborn

[@thepolicedepartmentunited1543]

Or just lil seb with alt accounts.

[@jacketofdiamonds]

"Does this mean that there can never be a Muse of Time?" Someone clearly hasn't read cool and new web comic.

[@cube4547]

Jesus Christ..... everything is God damn connected. I was searching for calliope music because of the world revolving from deltarune and I found this.

[@Pixaurora]

God those end memes always make me burst out laughing even though I'm basically not a Homestuck fan anymore. Thank you Jen!

[@hache4329]

sweet series, keep it up Jen!

[@jaime1821]

I've been binge watching your other videos and I just got home and thought I had missed one. XD please do more of these.

[@CrimCrim]

I have a theory that Calliope wrote My Immortal when she was 10 (in human years)

[@Jalae]

the thing about the muse of time, it's like the cursor. never noticed, but always present. Lets Love Lain.

[@iridescentequerry6320]

I can not begin to explain how much I lovehate Hussie for the reason for karkat being like the cal twins

[@TigirlakaLaserwolf6]

weird flex but a Prince of Void would be _stupid_ powerful One who literally destroys nothingness? You could easily render objects unbreakable, people unkillable and at the height of your power, possibly even destroy the concept of nothingness itself, thus literally birthing forth everything that ever could be or has been.

[@Potato_God47]

Was I the only one screaming fuck you Hussie throughout this entire thing

[@sickprick5791]

16:39 Yes. Hell yes. HELL FUCKING YES. You have NO idea how much i've been waiting for that.

[@louzo5175]

11:46 me having a spurb session orchestreted by cherubs muse of time and lord of space: >:o (an achual thing, but also a meme)

[@whoisezekiel2099]

Am i that stupid that I pronounced calliope as callie-opey?

[@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450]

I pronounced it callie-opey because of the pronunciation on my language (callie-opeh)

[@birdchild7999]

well since her troll name is Callie Ohpeee, i dont think so

[@br1mst0n36]

I call her cali-ope

[@homestuckhoovy1135]

Cali-opey?

[@kingof-eu5kx]

cahlly oop for the slam dunk

[@sirbobthemarvelous]

I thought Calliope's gun was used to kill snowman

[@lorekeeperoblivious1557]

eeeeeeeeeeey. Callie! bit unfortunate timing with the upload, considering... y'know... the Nintendo direct. but good video either way! also you're getting memeier with every passing second. I love it.

[@thebiolibrary5572]

I dunno, somehow cherubim change physical structure, changing blood colour and gender, upon usage of the Sarswapagus, so I don’t find it impossible for the vocal cords to change.

[@Charoy612]

I'd figure a Muse of Time would fall along the lines of a great hero or leader, fighting a battle in a way that not only inspires the troops of the current day, but leaving a legacy that inspires others to fight in their name or using their ideals and tactics long after they've finished their own fight. Like, say.... to reference something Homestuck has referenced before, Kamina from Gurenn Lagaan.

[@mememologies7363]

You have no idea how happy I am to see another fridgestuck video I spit my tea out when I saw this.

[@spitefuleternity]

13:56 maybe the haters are seeing spades

[@astralux_abandoned1099]

I'd say that cherubs have a large vocal ance and so they use different pitches, but thats just my headcanon

[@a-bird-lover]

Yay! I always pull up Calliope on that "what character are you like" quiz. I'd like to think that's a good thing but it honestly is probably from the quiz interpreting me being a wuss as "passive"...

[@cupofmilkyway]

I really enjoy your FrigeStuck videos since I found them a little while ago, and even if I don't usually comment I just needed to say how much I liked this one! Keep up the great work and thank you for the amazing content!

[@Ustar]

Thanks for this video! sincerely, this is one of the few things worth watching on Yt. Also, is good to see people still remember Homestuck. Also, your work helps a lot to relieve stress and rest a bit... so you're doing good :) btw. i love your God tier self ;)

[@sahrynasreddin3671]

I love Calliope, I'm so glad u made a video abt her! I love what u do!!!!

[@AlexMcMund]

I really wonder if Hussie is actually such a genius that he was able to form this ridiculous web of allusions and references or if it's the fans putting together a lot of pieces that aren't really there. I'm terrified of either...

[@jaded151]

Also she is the Muse of Space. Muse = to admire Space = all of creation This is a refrence to an on going joke in Problem Sleuth, where Godhead Pickle Inspector who would only "fondly regard creation"

[@StinkySeaGoat]

Jesus Christ Calliope is TINY

[@chloemiller657]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! I AM SO HAPPY! I love Callie! Thank you sooooo much!

[@appleogold]

this video sounds a bit more professional than your older ones, good on ya

[@LordZadrenoss]

I actually know someone personally with the name "Calliope," or at least "Callie." the person I know is one of my cousins...

[@cofeespear4992]

Of course The cat is the main brain

[@benruniko]

I know its an old video, but i like to think of Karkat’s symbol as Caliope and her bro in an eternal battle of wills, spinning around each other unable to escape.

[@drakath5727]

One thing: the black hole looks like an 8 ball and the space effect is the felt around it on an analytical level. The tearing of space with the black squares reminds me of an opposite color for chalk rubbing off the cue. It’s also funny how she is the exact opposite in attitude to Midna from LoZ, who is also tied to green, and black squares of pitch black darkness, or twilight. Does that make normal caliborn Zant?

[@StarshadowMelody]

The fact you can eat off uranium glass implies it's safe.

[@wanteddeadoraliveshortmand4508]

Cally Ope

[@TheInkyForestSystem]

Can't wait for the next ep! U should do the ancestors one day

[@Squibbo0000]

If life and creativity are associated with space, time is death and logic?

[@darkpince1310]

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!

[@br1mst0n36]

Me too!

[@4daikon149]

*CALLIOPE!* Precious child!!

[@serialdreamer1162]

Woo! Good to see your videos again!

[@kitkatmuffin]

Whistles is probably the darkest clown I have ever seen

[@Cyantrust051]

Yo jen will we be seeing an Aranea Serket video :D Also keep up the good work! always good to see the homestuck community is still alive and kicking.

[@ajjjzachiel44]

Yess you did an episode on my fave girl!

[@fujoshiinpink8097]

Yeessss thank you so much for uploading love you vids my lady PS do Dirk next please 😻😻😻

[@risalockwood1978]

hussie is a bigger troll than the trolls themselves

[@nepetaleijon1017]

Yes! Jen’s back

[@starjade4793]

I love your videos and I really liked this one. Maybe you can do my favorite beta kid, Jade next!

[@tabbender1232]

As a Space player i approve this Also Vriska next pls

[@revolutionary_thoy]

Calliope's first conversation with Jane also mirrors Karkat's first conversation with John

[@clownsingularity]

When you casually threaten to murder a fanfiction thats mouthing off to you.

[@canecatorcan9582]

10:56 Well, that actually fits well in the epilogues, I guess?

[@radiorebel8223]

Shes back!

[@radiorebel8223]

Not hating, but if the ophiuchus is where it should be, it would be the 9th in the system. Its a cute thought though with the 413. Also the end was great.

[@helious5056]

When ever you said stardust in this I couldn't help but to think of the golden age comic book character stardust the super wizard and I don't exactly know why but he is a cool character and his comics are just insane.

[@helious5056]

In fact the dynamic between calliope and callaborn kinda reminds me of the dynamic between stardust and fantomah except stardust and fantomah are both good guys but are more like God's of old with there justice with fantomah the girl probably being the more harsh but in calliope and callaborns case it's a more understandable split with one being difinitviely bad and one being difinitviely good and the harsher of the two being callaborn a dude. Interesting how these things reapear through out comic history

[@sebastiandragon2392]

It's been so long... Oh calabro in 18 min masterpiece No wounder it took months

[@bensherinian3599]

Will you ever do a video the best strider brother, Dirk? P.s. Caliope in the all women are qUeens meme is amazing.

[@anubiscerberus4348]

Sometimes im aMUSEd by how many details Hussie put into his work

[@SalemsRising]

Will LaureledEevees ever fix that weird non blurred line? find out on the next episode of- never, no she's never going to fix it.

[@Khione3]

15:56 HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THISSSSS!!!!!!

[@PatchHeart6ty9]

YEEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!! I love this series! Thank you.

[@cupoftea3499]

Oh, Calibornia didn't grow up, he did it unnaturally, that is why he doesn't have wings.

[@crescent_dawn]

Never knew I needed that ending so bad

[@bigiron1311]

I just finished re reading homestuck and wow it is so good!

[@ajisegundo2268]

not to mention that karkat's sign resembles a yin yang possibly representing calliope and caliborn

[@deviledeggs5126]

love your vids!

[@mittens4859]

Thank you for pronouncing Uranus correctly

[@RosefromtGround]

HELL YES A NEW FRIDGE

[@stoplookingatthisyougleepy]

me after the house I moved to with a shitty fridge finally has said fridge cast out into the streets with a cool and new fridge moving in:

[@beepyyy]

that bit at the end killed me.

[@bagellio2166]

Two characters sharing the same body? Reminds me of a certain bizarre villain...

[@nepetaleijon1017]

Cool cat sorry if I sound dumb but I don’t get it

[@bagellio2166]

Its a reference to Jojos bizarre adventure. One if the villains shares a body with another character.(jojos is awesome you should check it out)

[@nepetaleijon1017]

Cool cat Thanks

[@StepperBox]

Her British accent also connects her with another character connected to lord English: Jake English

[@squareupthotorillsnatchyou4741]

Tbh I hate calliope, for many reasons, one of them being that she _made downright creepy and borderline nsfw fanfics of her friends_ I don't give a shit if that's a coping thing, but that shit is wrong, if somebody was doing that with me, they won't be my friend anymore. Also she did jack-shit in the finale, her alt-self did more then her. All Calliope stands for is to be an plot device and an useless ass character.

[@bowsercastle]

im gonna cry my dumbass just found out after all these years its not pronounced callie-ohp D:

[@tidecovill6718]

Cannot stop thinking about TMA for some reason

[@leviathantb4014]

I personally believe that caliborn doesn't represent Homestuck haters or any other aspect of Homestuck fandom but more so the Homestuck artist himself! its no secret that Andrew hussie's past has been... less than spotless... honestly he was pretty racist and misogynistic and homoph- yeah, bad, you get it. Caliborn is Hussie's own (second, less obvious) self-insert, being an over-dramatized version of his worst self! in fact something else I think you got wrong (sorry) is the idea that caliborn matured into LE with time (hah) when really he more or less cheated his way into adulthood without maturing mentally, Hussie says so himself during their terminal conversation (yeah in this context it much more resembles the homestuck trope of a past-self future-self argument huh?) "Yes. Your personality is stuck in some sort of cantankerous prepubescent limbo. You are going to be a stunted, miserable tool forever." but this is why I was kinda disappointed that he never got any sort of redemption (YET! POST CREDITS DONT FAIL ME NOW), I guess he always was meant to be a bad reflection of hussie who would never mature like Hussie did in reality but I think it would have been nice for the blind god-artist to learn to see

[@shilareeves6979]

When your a space player

[@blairblue6769]

Why the fuck is everyone using Gymnopedie No. 2 in their videos recently? (LEder'sGymnopedieCough) Anyways, great vid as usual! Keep it up!