REIMAGINING HAZBIN CHARACTERS (based on their lore)

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[@triggerhappy5830]

Lavender forgot the most vital part about the Belgian Lucifer statue. They commissioned another sculptor to replace the existing statue and the 2nd one came out more attractive than the first 😭

[@greenapple9477]

I loved learning that SOO MUCH. So funny! What an absolute middle finger to that church! Think the 2nd sculptor was the first one's brother.

[@melodramaticdragon5826]

​@greenapple9477 Yep! The first statue, L'ange du mal, was made by Joseph Geefs. This was the one removed with the baller quote "This devil is too sublime." The second one, the one Lavender showed a picture of, is Le genie du mal, was made by Joseph's brother, Guillaume Geefs. (Ironically, it seems the brothers used the same human model.)

[@undercookedtoast1479]

@@melodramaticdragon5826imagine being the human model for a statue of the devil and the church has the statue removed for being too sexy, then modeling for the statues replacement that ends up even MORE sexy. Bros ego prolly grew two sizes

[@Isabuggaboo]

originally it wasn't even the physique of Lucifer that made the churches deem it "too hot", it was the fact that you could see a little bit under the only thing covering his. . .private area

[@taro_b_g]

The second statue was actually created by the ogs artist brother

[@zbee3694]

17:27 FAKE HALO MADE OF STRING SLAPS SO FUCKING HARD

[@viik-tor]

FRR

[@invertez3483]

FREAKING YES

[@akaneshio6406]

Yess, even though in her version he's slightly evil that detail alone made him very pitiful and showed that he isn't a cold monster, just a hurt person lashing out, unable to move on from what they've lost.

[@ratnermanor]

THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING

[@maryxr3795]

RIGHTTT?? I like to think that in this AU maybe the reason he's so neglectful of his daughter is because he's still in some kind of denial, and he's constantly trying to appeal back to his angelic form, and sees Charlie as lower than him bc she's a hellborn- and he's not, he'll never be- maybe he's disappointed she doesn't look like an angel- and in his eyes he's still an angel she should look like an angel too- since she came from him- but he cannot see that she's an angel in her heart or some cheesy crap like that- idk I just thought about it LOL thx for coming to my TED talk-

[@maskedbeast1681]

Imagine if Nifty had a bow on her back that resembles bug wings?

[@PhilFromhec]

Holy shit that’d be cool

[@AdithiDaVinci]

@@PhilFromhec Actually 😯

[@bugbear2357]

oh I LOVE that idea. it'd fit her style, make for a fun silhouette, and actually make her bug aspects more clear

[@Dummy_thicc_monoma]

Or what if it was a traditional obi belt (since she japanese) tied to reassemble bug wings

[@iismaxyt]

@@Dummy_thicc_monoma𝐘𝐄𝐒𝐒𝐒

[@bugbear2357]

Lute's mask covering her eyes is a nice nod to the idea of blind faith and her unwillingness to look outside of her own worldview

[@iamsoup_official1]

Right I love when people do that for characters like that

[@snappykitty6383]

I like the idea that maybe Lute in this AU still doesn't think she can be harmed after harming vaggie, purely because she believes Vaggie to be "sinful" and therefore no longer protected by God, and so she believes her being ABLE to harm Vaggie means she deserves it in her eyes.

[@snappykitty6383]

Really pushes home the "What I am doing is justified" world view she sort of has in this AU

[@bugbear2357]

and it'd explain why she didn't immediately twig that angelic weapons can hurt angels and tell the exorcists to stop leaving their weapons everywhere- she doesn't see Vaggie as an angel, so her weapons didn't hurt an angel in her eyes

[@unripetheberrby6283]

That's sad :(

[@indesomniac]

I NEVER would have guessed Nifty(?) is supposed to be an insect; there is nothing about her original design that reads “bug” to me

[@telosnium]

for real, i was SHOCKED to hear about that even after watching the whole show

[@Vickyshoka]

Bc she isn't. It's misinfo

[@DoveJS]

@@Vickyshoka She probably got it off the fan wiki so people need to be overseeing that if so.

[@iivin4233]

I had no idea she was Japanese. It's not as if Japanese art lacks for demon designs. Why not, at the very least, draw her reminiscent of a centipede yokai?

[@Vickyshoka]

@@iivin4233 she isn't it's misinfo she can talk japanese but isn't japanese

[@JustAnotherJames3]

2:21 As a spider enthusiast, I'd like to note that those are called chelicerae. It's also worth noting that they are NOT mandibles (pronounced, like, shell-uh-see-ray) Mandibles are used for chewing, while chelicerae are used for sucking (more context in replies) Which is... strangely befitting of Angel.

[@JustAnotherJames3]

Specifically, spiders eat by using their venom to liquify the innards of their prey and use their chelicerae to suck up that organ goo.

[@JustAnotherJames3]

Damn. Ms. Newsome liked the original comment, but I went back to edit it to make what I was saying more clear (it was kinda repetitive)... and editing it deleted her like... I mean, I get why KZbin would have that as a feature (prevents commenters from editing comments to make creators look bad,) but it's kinda a bummer for stuff like fixing grammar or spelling mistakes. At least I now know for the future.

[@galic6068]

@@JustAnotherJames3it’s Not the same but I’ll give you a heart. ❤

[@JustAnotherJames3]

@@galic6068 That's so sweet! Thank you.

[@dayl1ly]

Woah, that's awesome! It's awesome to hear people talking about their interests online :)

[@telosnium]

i love that you represented the forbidden fruit as something other than an apple. also the designs are fire, especially lute

[@moondivine2288]

While in the Bible that is up for debate, I personally think the forbidden fruit doesn’t exist on Earth, in Hazbin hotel the fruit is specifically a apple. Lucifer and Charlie has used it as their symbol. And because Hazbin is going to do some creative liberties I don’t think it matters much.

[@stitchgor3]

I believe this stems from the word apple and it used to mean fruit in general!

[@nataliecoronado4206]

​@@moondivine2288 I believe before it became popular to interpret the Fruit of Knowledge as an apple, it was commonly interpreted to be a fig instead. Which makes sense, since figs are much more common in the part of the world where the abrahamic religions got started

[@Just-885]

I remember, when in school people were getting bad grades because they were saying that the forbidden fruit is an apple, because the apple was just used to make the story cleaner for kids (it's the explanation I always get from teachers and well everyone)

[@vickypedia1308]

Pretty sure she drew a fig but I can't help seeing it as a pomegranate, which is kind of the "forbidden fruit" of Greek mythology in a way.

[@iminarea5158]

Something about an angel that looks so beautiful and innocent committing violent, unspeakable acts feels so terrifying and uncanny to me, something so pure creating genocide and destruction. Honestly it's one of my favorite designs and I think it would make an interesting dynamic in the show, how appearances and angelic beauty can hide evil edit: I'm not trying to bash the show, and hold nothing against their angel designs, so please refrain from giving me death threats because of it, I'm not trying to be rude and apologize if i come off as such

[@paperplate4786]

Yeh I agree I think it will so cool to see these happy pure beings committing such horror!

[@spam-el3ee]

Don't worry, that guy sending you threats is a bot who does that to everyone. Always report them, check "recent comments on this channel" if you're not sure they're a bot. THEN report them, and have a nice day :)

[@vickypedia1308]

​@ville__glad to see you back and all but I still struggle to understand what the point of thee comments is

[@unripetheberrby6283]

Lol that's Satan for ya 😅

[@iminarea5158]

@@spam-el3ee Thanks, I've never received a kys comment, so I didn't know. Have a nice day to, and thank you again =]

[@HowIndecisivehuu]

Honestly, I LOVE your Lute design, the idea of her being super cute and nice but probably killing demons violently with a happy smile because she thinks what she’s doing is correct is SUCH a smart idea and I love it! And yeah I found her design a lot less “heavenly” than the other angels, so I’m glad how your design turned out 💜

[@lucid_3938]

Btw alot of the stuff in the hazbin wiki just isn't true 😭 Nowhere has it been said Niffty has ocd. The hazbin fandom is the WORST for mass misinfo

[@PhilFromhec]

So real 😭

[@RCOLLINS1446]

That’s not even getting into the Journey Into Light wiki debacle.

[@palomaroggeri8680]

Its not really the wiki's fault. They make a big effort to keep out mis-information and include detailed bibliographies in all the articles, so that people know where they get their information from. As long as you do your research, no misinformation should be spread.

[@catcactus1234]

@@palomaroggeri8680It’s not the wiki’s fault they’re featuring misinformation? What’s the point of being a wiki if you don’t moderate and verify the information being submitted to your wiki? Sure, people might spread misinformation, but if they want their wiki to be taken seriously, it’s _their_ job to their research, not the individual person. Also I kinda find it funny how you say it’s easy to avoid misinformation, but this is literally LavenderTowne’s third attempt to redesign this series and despite all of her in-depth research she still managed to be misinformed because of the lack of cohesion and verified sources for Hazbin’s canonical lore.

[@dante_0962]

I swear this fanbase can’t keep the lore & characters straight. Comic book superheroes are more stable than this like with people like Alex Lennen and comic drake can explain nearly 100 years of comic book lore and its real life history. Than a franchise that just came out a few months ago.

[@axolotdraws9946]

Its sad that such a big disclaimer is needed to avoid getting ripped to shreds by the fandom :|

[@iamasmokedchicken]

I agree. I've even seen other artists on their first redesigns for this show having disclaimers at the beginning, just in case. I feel like if an artist feels the need to clarify to you that their art isn't meant to hate on the show or something like that, there's most likely some issue there. Artists feeling pressured to agree with every aspect of a character design just because it's the official design can very easily limit their creativity or their art itself if it's taken too far. Which is not to say that everyone in the fandom has been pressuring artists or making them feel obligated to clarify things, but some people are. And this is also not to say that every artist feels pressured or afraid of the fandom or something, but some feel the need to be extra cautious just in case.

[@seineevee]

Yeah :(

[@ohplease6865]

Toxic as hell * pun semi-intended *

[@apolloarts6523]

This fandom honestly has a negative percentage in media literacy

[@BAVy11037]

kids

[@cheru_fishmonster]

I think a simple solution to the 8 limb thing with Angel would be to give him 4 legs, but have two legs in each boot, so he still walks bipedally. I think having him holding 6 things is a fun sight gag, but it doesn't seem worth drawing 6 whole arms all the time. That way, there's still the fun of having multiple simultaneous expressions through his different arms, but it's more of an allusion to him being a spider, and the design doesn't even need to change that much.

[@Space_Cowboy.22.]

Commit a Squidward lol

[@joonbee]

True like that’s literally what they did with his sister, why not him too?

[@Space_Cowboy.22.]

@@joonbee bruh

[@ballonstudios7799]

The hell with the person above me lmao

[@Space_Cowboy.22.]

@@ballonstudios7799 uttp bot, just report em

[@feraltrashmouth8166]

As a Hazbin fan, I genuinely really enjoy not only hearing genuine constructive criticism of the show but also hearing solutions that would make a lot more sense. Hearing other perspectives that aren’t completely blindly supportive of the show is quite refreshing, and it is such a shame that such a warning is needed on such a politely made video ♥️

[@crownedclover82]

“To look like he’s tried to reattach the halo to his head.” Well you didn’t have to go rip out my heart like that 😭❤❤ THATS GENIUS

[@birdayo]

Your nifty design is genuinely so much more interesting than the actual nifty’s

[@sakiyaki-sashimi]

Right!!! Nifty stuck out to me as a 100% improvement of the original!

[@efectocapricornio941]

So true, I could never imagine what was she supposed to represent since the pilot and even now in the show

[@CloudiiHysteria]

Yeah, I would’ve never guessed she was a bug honestly 💀

[@phantom-ri2tg]

I like the original more.

[@Joja_Copas]

wrong

[@jubileebaby0]

Well, It was a snake that first tempted Eve. Fittingly, it makes sense that Sir Pentious would be the first sinner in hell to be redeemed.

[@PhilFromhec]

Oh shit I didn’t notice that that’s clever

[@jubileebaby0]

@@PhilFromhec I already made a thread about that on Twitter

[@Regothelego]

That’s actually genius

[@Nokie_Cookie3]

​@ville__ wow chill out dude 😂

[@Deadflower019]

Cute

[@paranoidspiderbeans3968]

I hope the fandom chills out with you :(

[@alexisdied4558]

Worst thing is you know very well they won't...

[@FvckinMacNCheeze]

As a person in the Fandom, I honestly liked the first video. It needed to be researched a little bit better, but I seriously hope the rest of the Fandom does chill tf out as well.

[@currentlydoingurmom]

Yeah, she made a mistake, apologized, and corrected it. plus her Lucifer design and Vaggie design are so pretty!

[@ding-dong_bing-bong]

They won't. Unless this goes on long enough for them to forget about it.. they are children after all

[@paranoidspiderbeans3968]

@@FvckinMacNCheeze I can absolutely agree with that take. I agree, it wasn’t her best video and could have used a lot more research, however I enjoyed it nonetheless. Constructive criticism is great when requested, and I love how people try to do their own spin with things. But people just go completely feral with it and it’s a mess ._.

[@LostInTheOdyssey]

It is so ominous to think of Angels floating down from the light and killing hoards of screaming people with serene smiles, moving so lightly, in a way that almost resembles a dance

[@RemixproductionsAj]

9:18 as a pagan, I’m so glad you mentioned the distinction. Whenever I wear a pentacle I always have someone use the wrong name for it

[@insertusernamehere3173]

EXACTLY OMGGGGGG ONE OF MY BIGGEST PET PEEVES BUT I NEVER SAY ANYTHING

[@tell-me-a-story-]

I mean, if you choose to wear it, you can expect people to think it’s the more common/ dramatized thing that more people know about.

[@indesomniac]

I love your change for the angels! I agree that the dichotomy between them looking docile and holy and committing horrible acts would make for more interesting imagery than a visibly evil character doing bad things

[@invertez3483]

YESSS LIKE THE CHERUBS IN THE NEW EPISODE OF HELLUVA

[@Kat-qf7ov]

i get where you are coming from, but at the same time, that trope is sooo overdone

[@Jelly48948]

​@Kat-qf7ov It is, but I feel like that's because it's actually reeeaaally good. Though, I do feel like the the idea of angels being actively the opposite of how they're portrayed in media is also very lovely! It's just a matter of execution really

[@Vivelli.]

THE EXORCIST DESIGN IS ACTUALLY SO GENIUS!!

[@Didi1234abcd]

I love Lavender'sa exorcist design but the sad part is that is not anything revolutionary. Hazbin tried to be different but in doing so and avoiding the classic angle design they made it worse. I do think that using Crusaders as inspiration was pretty clever though

[@akiroll7940]

I love that they all follow a similar red and black color scheme and that Lute stands out easily as not being one of them. i like the detail that Lucifer, Lute and Charlie have blonde hair, also setting them apart from the rest of hell which makes sense! Angel was done so dirty in the show too, he's so pretty and unsettling here and definitely reads spider more here (i didnt even know he was supposed to be a spider for so long). love the redesigns!

[@mr.lampshade]

i believe sir pentious calls angel "spider.." in one of the first few episodes, but it's easy to miss

[@unripetheberrby6283]

seeing Angel in animation and pictures for the first time long ago, I had thought he was a Stick Bug or something like that

[@koiloylo]

i didn’t get it until his extra arms popped out lmfao then i was like… oh 8 limbs ok

[@LetsgetMacackling2680]

I knew he was a spider for a long time and yet I didn't find out the freckles under his eyes were actually an extra set of eyes until I saw it in the show. I feel like he just should have had an extra set of eyes 24/7 just like Stolas does.

[@akiroll7940]

@@mr.lampshade what i mean is his design has been out for a long time pre release on amazon and i only learned that fact through a video like this one, and if we have to basically be told through the show or creators that he's a spider its not a strong design 😅

[@user-od2sf1yg7b]

Another fun tidbit I remember hearing somewhere about the devil statue was that that after the first statue was removed for being too beautiful, the church commissioned the original artist’s brother to create the statue of the devil. Unfortunately, his statue was even more beautiful than the one before…

[@Tyranid_Hive_Mind]

That story will never not be funny

[@mushlii]

To be fair it is said that satan was the most beautiful angel of them all so it isn’t surprising for his statues to be beautiful lol

[@Tyranid_Hive_Mind]

@@mushlii but according to the church, those statues would tempt them

[@mushlii]

@@Tyranid_Hive_Mind sounds like a skill issue of the people in the church. A huge part is not following lust, It seems fitting the devils beauty and temptations would be a trial to pass lol

[@annataymond9529]

The “that bad” thing about Lucifer, is that he was COMPLETELY absent for years of her life. His desperation to be involved now is largely guilt related. He’s also kinda trying to pretend everything is totally normal? He strides in like he owns the place, is initially super dismissive, and IMMEDIATELY picks a fight with one of Charlie’s friends. We know that Alastor deserves it, but he doesn’t, and neither does Charlie really. He’s great if you forget the context of him showing up out of nowhere after years of neglect and expecting to be viewed the same as before he left.

[@ToyKnives]

As an audience member, I feel like we’re only ever told about Lucifer’s neglect, instead of shown it. IIRC, we only see Charlie reach out and get ignored by her mom, which makes it seem like Charlie just doesn’t want to have a relationship with her dad. We’re also not shown why he neglected her (presumably due to him feeling inadequate?), which could make him seem a lot worse

[@annataymond9529]

@@ToyKnives That doesn’t make it ok. We skipped the part of her life where he was absent but we still know about it. And self esteem issue are not a free pass for bad behavior.

[@ToyKnives]

@@annataymond9529 I’m not defending the morality of a cartoon character lol I’m talking about effective storytelling. It’s basic “show, don’t tell.” Don’t tell the audience that Lucifer did something bad. Show him doing something bad and its negative effects. Imho, we’re only ever told he neglected Charlie, and we’re mostly shown him giving her his love and attention.

[@baileyspeer788]

I have a theory that Lilith took Charlie and somehow stopped Lucifer from finding them (I know, like every deadbeat dad claims, but hear me out)- when they're singing together we get a snippet of young Charlie sitting on his lap and them both being happy and loving and then Lilith pulls her away as they both look sad. That makes more sense to me than him acting solely out of guilt (though the guilt probably still factors in heavily as well).

[@giu4028]

​@ToyKnives the thing is that the show it's just badly written, so charlie' problem seems like fake

[@cheersi1693]

I love the lineup at the end! One thing about hazbin hotel characters is that the silhouette works but the lineup kind of feels like a bit of a boring train track due to how many characters have the same kinda tall height and nifty is just the tracks only diverse track. The lineup of height variation is a HUGE improvement! Also i would love to see a redesign of high guardian spice character designs especially since you have experience with writing stories about witches

[@thelocalshoop]

omg i didnt know i needed a lavendertowne style redesign of HGS until i read this that would be absolutely perfect

[@eggfroggowo]

That would be so cool! I honestly forgot about HGS

[@naolucillerandom5280]

I support the motion of HGS redesigns, it would be fun to see Lavendertowne's version

[@ohw5306]

Omg this would be AMAZING! I'm craving for this now god damn it

[@juneybuggs6295]

i find it so weird that the sole japanese woman (at least i think she is) is a ditzy, child-like house keeper who falls in love with every man she meets

[@munbrazeh6700]

that got me saying "yikes" out loud honestly

[@PhilFromhec]

(I haven’t watched the show yet, I’m just going off of multiple sources from the Internet, like tweets and wikis and shit, so please be nice haha) Nifty was never confirmed to be Japanese, it was just that before the actual show came out Vivzie confirmed that Nifty speaks Japanese, a character trait based on the fact her original pilot va was Japanese-American and spoke Japanese, which now that she’s no longer voicing her it’s entirely possible Nifty doesn’t even speak Japanese anymore, and regardless she was never specifically confirmed to be Japanese

[@invertez3483]

​@@PhilFromhecGOOD

[@frosgare]

since when did they say she was japanese?

[@moonoftheblood]

She's not canonically japanese and she is not childlike

[@ohw5306]

Ooooooo the concept for Angel's extra 2 limbs is so good. The more I think about it, maybe they cound function like his chest puffs. Like the puffs looks like boobs and his arms accentuates the illusion of curved hips, making his design even more hourglass for when his in drag. kinda wish his other arms are bigger/humanlike instead of fluff stubs now

[@xamara81203]

oo yea like one set for his chest and the second could go around his waist/hips to accentute

[@jjthesecond2801]

I totally agree. I actually thought for a hot minute when I was watching the show that his chest fluff was his extra arms just inside his shirt or something

[@ohw5306]

Haha I'm just imagining now lika a rando try to get a feel and 1 arm just grabbing the hand from where a hip or boob would be, going a a 😈

[@zealousamourous]

I also have an issue with his arms seemingly coming out of his legs when they wrap around them but then shift up on the drag outfit.

[@ohw5306]

​@@zealousamourous Yeah if given more time I bet Haley would have fixed the angle and perspective. But besides that the overall design looks fantastic

[@darkserpent7191]

the lucifer you designed is genuinely so fine and SO much more than the show's version

[@darkserpent7191]

he deff looks prettier than the statue too

[@BaobhanloreArt]

I think Hazbin characters feel more like OCs than official characters. Like, they feel more like doodles in a notebook come to life and I suppose they are, especially Alastor who was made when Viv was fourteen. And I suppose that has its own charm and appeal because this series was built on fans who love the art and design of the series. I guess it's just two different approaches to the visuals and different priorities.

[@qweeesh]

I feel that in your angel redesign it would've made sense to do more 70s themed drag to show that his sex work and drag is something Valentino more forces onto him than his own personal choices and expression

[@Apowo16]

not that I take word of god as canon but Viv has said that he enjoys sex work and drag, just not the control val has over him

[@qweeesh]

@Apowo16 I know I just feel that having val's decade aesthetic take over Angel's design would show that even though he enjoys what he does, Val still controls his personal expression of that drag and sex work as his boss and abuser

[@qweeesh]

@@Apowo16 also apologies for my poor wording lol

[@sleepyhollowo]

ooo yeah i like this idea!

[@AstronomicalJelly]

i mean i think he does genuinely enjoy drag and sex work to some degree outside of but valentino forcing it on him

[@RabbidsFan-d5o]

I'm really proud of you Lavender, I have heard that you have gotten nasty backlash and yet you still continue, the way you have handled it is so impressive and I'm glad you arent really submitting to it you do it girl I believe in you:3

[@hanabelle684]

Ikr she's soo mature for handling the backlash with redoing her redesigns

[@RabbidsFan-d5o]

​@@hanabelle684 Yes for sure, I think she is one of the only people to handle it so maturely here on KZbin, Especially compared to that Sniperwolf

[@hanabelle684]

@@RabbidsFan-d5o oh sssniperwolf was wild

[@clayr.w1829]

i know right!? I don’t agree with the hate she got, but i did agree that her initial redesigns were made without much knowledge of the show. I’m glad that she was able to listen to the genuine criticism (bc i could understand why she wouldn’t with all the jerks) and make an improved video cuz her new redesigns are so cool and well thought out!! and i enjoyed learning stuff about history and religion too. i think this vid is one of her best videos imo

[@RabbidsFan-d5o]

@@clayr.w1829 Yes, I do agree that the designs weren't great but the comeback was amazing, they look much more thought out and a bit more understandable than the original

[@aliyahpulido953]

21:41 Minor correction here- Vaggie knew she could be harmed *by another exorcist,* because it was Lute who pulled her wings off. She still didn't know a denizen of Hell could harm anyone from Heaven. And even then, she didn't know Angelic steel was the secret weapon against angels/Exorcists because Lute ripped Vaggie's wings off with her bare hands and without any weapons. As for Lute slashing out Vaggie's eye with an Angelic spear, I can chalk up Vaggie missing this due to being blinded by pain and by the loss of said eye. If I were Vaggie and suffered the same wounds she did, I probably wouldn't remember what weapons hurt me, especially if I were ambushed/attacked from behind like she was by Lute.

[@DrAngelKins]

That makes sense tbh...

[@AstronomicalJelly]

exactly!! it really annoys me that ppl act like it's inconsideration on the writers' part bc she didn't think she can get hurt by demons SPECIFICALLY. i think it makes sense for the whole "angels think they cant get hurt" thing that even one who had her wings and eyes literally ripped off is unaware of her own mortality lmao

[@alyssamay9237]

I think most of the confusion comes from the dialogue and how it was interpreted by the audience. What Carmilla says in the show is "did you know angels could be harmed?" Most people (myself included) interrupted this as her asking "did you know angels could be harmed by anyone or anything?" If Carmilla had said "harmed by demons" there likely wouldn't have been this confusion

[@thisisanaccountalright]

That doesn't work, sorry.

[@patdixon5075]

@@thisisanaccountalright It does work, you’re just being stupid/ignorant

[@Mooneko_]

As a fan of the show I wish the fandom wasn’t so salty about redesigns. While I personally enjoy the tumblr sparkle dog energy of the original, I understand that the designs are very flawed and I enjoy seeing other artists takes. I’m also able to acknowledge how flawed the show is and I enjoy hearing other people’s takes. Ignore the side of the fandom who harass you for this, they’re just… the loud minority of the fandom. I can guarantee we aren’t all like this 😭 you’re my favorite artist honestly and I adore your takes!

[@hauntedv1rus]

i know this is a really minor detail but;; i love that you gave charlie and lucifer three horns or more and all the others have two. it js makes them feel more special as they have something in common that the other character's dont. which makes sense, as they are the king/princess of hell and they have more power than the other characters. love the colour palette as well,, it still has the red/white theme of the original hazbin hotel show but it's way easier on the eyes and has a lot of other shades instead of the bright, highly saturated red. all of ur ideas are insanely creative!! lowk i wanna see this versio of hh animated as a short or something. thx for continuing ur work despite all the backlash

[@Chamcamm]

Honestly so glad that you’re remaking/making a part 2 to this video! I don’t understand why the OG got so, sooooo much hate😭 it’s not like you have the power to change the show anyways- Edit: just to clear some things up! Yes, the OG video was full of misinformation, but lavendertowne mentioned herself that she was in a tough situation at the time that she made it, which is partially as to why that video had a lack of quality. I just noticed that some people where hating Haley in the replies, which I feel is a bit unnecessary knowing the context to why the OG video lacked in quality

[@Acidfrog475]

Yeah. The original video wasn’t good, which even I as someone who hasn’t watched the show could tell, but not every video can be a masterpiece. Sometimes you just need to put something out to keep a deadline, for instance. But some fans treated the video like Haley personally murdered their whole family, or something.

[@Silly_lil_scribbles]

yeah lmao

[@clemm1e_0100]

@@Acidfrog475​​⁠​⁠Her og video was filled with incorrect information. I love Haley and I’m not a huge fan of Hazbin. I don’t condone harassment of any kind. But she didn’t even get basic info right in the og.

[@markellsimpson4358]

@@Acidfrog475 look I love lavendertowne so much but the old video was horrible. It spread misinformation and used non official sources. She also admitted to not even watching or doing any research on hazbin before making the video. The video was lazy and just poorly made.

[@OneOfThemSprinkles]

The Hasbin fandom had to wait a long time to have the show so I guess the old fans became sorta obsessive over it? It makes their reactions over the top at times.

[@trixxart777]

I think the fandom kinda misrepresents niffy a lot where she is evil but personally I think she has just got a lot of trauma and would love to see her backstory

[@sakiyaki-sashimi]

They don’t misrepresent Nifty the show does 💀 she’s an obsessive blood-lustful woman-child in the show, it’s the wiki and outside sources that expand on her character. Not really the average watchers fault that they see her and take her at face value. I get what you mean though, she could be super interesting!

[@bezierballad8852]

Honestly while Niffty is pretty off the wall compared to the rest of the characters (plus she seems to be accquainted with Alastor) I don't really see anyone in the fandom saying she's "evil."

[@naolucillerandom5280]

Not evil, and I do think it could be worth to get a glimpse of her backstory. I don't think she's OCD just because she likes to clean, but the interaction with Angel at the club does point to her obsession with cleaning having deeper roots.

[@demi9441]

I personally just think she's a chaotic clean freak who is short, obsessive, and friendly. I also find her to always be doing her own thing with a love for bloodlust. The only time she needed someone was while drunk

[@noobmasterruben5167]

I never really saw Niffty as evil just more of chaotic but needs a parental figure

[@texanwitch8231]

i adore how stark the contrast is between lute and the rest of the cast, in the show she blends in sort of to both worlss

[@katsartisticclutter]

Holy Cow I'm actually blown away by not only the quality of the art, but also the RESEARCH that went behind all of your artistic choices. Angel blew me away especially. Emphasizing Angel's smaller eyes made me extremely happy because it's one of my favorite traits about his original design. The research that went behind the details for Lucifer was just--- *chefs kiss* the golden thread on the horns was by far my favorite touch, on top of the pomegranate for the fruit.

[@Lolawitch28]

This designs make more sense and actually complement with the story that is trying to be portrayed.Great job!

[@sixoftwelve6363]

I think Charlie’s issues with Lucifer might actually be more down to Lilith. In the flashback, it looked like she was taking Charlie away from Lucifer, so he might not have been seen as neglectful by Charlie because he’s just that kind of person, but rather because of outside forces. He also has depression which can make you want to hide away and cut people off, even when you love them.

[@erastiesa]

Its obvious in the pilot he had said hurtful things and neglected charlie on purpose even after lilith left even if hes closed off why did he go to charlie right away when she called? Why was he SO nice?? In the pilot it was obvious he had said damaging stuff to her but in the show hes so SO nice and patient w her literally the first episode he appears

[@sixoftwelve6363]

@@erastiesa They probably changed their minds about the direction they wanted to take the character. Similar thing happens between the pilot and the show with Stolas in Helluva Boss.

[@Luukskywalker]

Wooow, I love the angel. I think it's a terrifying idea that someone as powerful as an angel think they are always right when murdering people...

[@Missxhull]

Lavendertowne is a sweet and gentle person. DO NOT BULLY HER.

[@blatherskitestudios2278]

2 things (preface: i greatly enjoy your work and think these redesigns are excellent) 1. Angel does have a couple scenes where, when he gets really mad or aggressive or whatever, his six freckley eyes open so you can see that they are in fact eyes 2. there's a pretty popular theory that the reason Lucifer is set up to be this awful deadbeat dad but doesn't act like it is because Lilith, Charlie's mom, forced him for some reason to not be able to see her while she was growing up. Anyways, great work as always!

[@AstronomicalJelly]

for the first one tbh it's like.... barely noticeable. i think it would be more interesting to make those eyes more visible at all times rather than the once or twice he gets really mad for 2, that is just a fan theory, it's not canon. and imo lucifer is shown to be neglectful even outside of lilith's influnce

[@blatherskitestudios2278]

@@AstronomicalJelly That's fair, and i completely agree. there's a lot of fun to be had in animation with details like that and i do wish they went further with it.

[@solilobye]

"a saucy place to put them" help i love the vocab use

[@personalpenguin22]

pause

[@tessathepeanut]

The way your Lucifer redesign had me BREATHING HEAVILY. You made him so gorgeous and when you look at him you can just TELL that he's the king of hell. If not, then you can tell he's a very important demon who's separate from the hotel. Lucifer is my favourite character from the show, but I'm willing to admit that his design didn't really give off the vibe that he's the king of hell. You gave him just what he needed!

[@69Yolo69Yolo]

I mean,, he hates being the king so it makes sense he doesn't dress king like

[@trixxart777]

Personally I really like Angel's design I personally would have given him a bit more spider elements maybe give him 4 legs to give more of that siloute but dunno if that would be too hard to animate. Also I am a massive fan of the series and I never relised his dots where supposted to be eyes since they look exactly like freckles in visis's style

[@Burmilla.]

ANGLE?

[@aliyahpulido953]

I like the addition of more clearly spider-like elements to Lav's version of Angel Dust; However male spider creatures in her universe have 2 legs and 6 arms, while females have 4 legs and 4 arms. His twin sister Molly is designed that way in early concept art and in the show (she's in Heaven.) One set of her arms is retractable like Angel's lower arms. I'm also wondering why Angel doesn't have a spider's abdomen/lower body? In "Poison" he's briefly shown wearing a fluffy white "tail" attachment that I think looks really cute and I'm not sure why he doesn't have one. Molly doesn't have one either, and you'd think that since female jumping spiders have bigger abdomens than males, she'd have something that would look adorable as a fluffy skirt. I'd also LOVE for them to have something on their body that resembles pedipalps, which are a small fuzzy set of appendages real spooders have near their mouth. Molly's bangs look like those pedipalps, so I think Angel could have a fuzzy "shirt-collar" or "choker" around his neck for his pedipalps. (Val has white fur on him that's part of his body bc it's on his wings, but looks like it's clothing because his wings look like a coat/cape when they're retracted.)

[@La14248]

Oooh the Lute/angels change is so much more interesting now! Like Lute in the show knows what she is doing is bad and looks antagonistic. But this redesign now is so much more intimidating. Like imagine these celestial beings killing you, with no emotions cause they truly believe they are doing good. That is more intimidating to me than an antagonist character.

[@sentretsparkle]

The show's take on morality was very disappointing to me. The question of "can a demon truly become good?" is interesting, but the only answer the show is comfortable with is "yes... only if they were always good to begin with!" Most of the characters the shows considered redeemable aren't even that horrible to begin with, and the characters were thought were truly horrible turn out to have always been good deep down inside. It's a very... binary look at morality. It doesn't feel like the characters change and grow, it feels like we're just told they were always like this but are now showing it.

[@xduwu4257]

The show isn't even that edgy tbh. It's 'safe' edgy, like the sort of humor where teens online joke about committing tax fraud or arsen. I enjoyed this show a lot, much more than I was expecting since I went into it expecting it to be bad as I hate helluva boss. but I think it very much shows this story and it's characters have been in her head for so long that she won't cut characters/ideas even if the show would benefit. Like maybe this is controversial but showing a character like Valentino is not a good idea when another main idea your story is trying to push is 'everyone deserve a chance at redemption!!' while directly showing us someone who would never be welcome in the hotel where 'everyone' is welcome to try redemption. but she'd never cut valentino/angel or dumb down their story because it's her OC from when she was a teenager lol. it also could have been interesting if his character was used to show Charlie yeah, some people suck and don't deserve a chance + teaching her to be more assertive since she is literally princess of hell and that seems barely relevant ever? which is totally the direction I thought that episode was going in but instead it was Charlie learning to not overstep boundaries :/

[@ixagonczi]

I mean we haven't really seen much of any actual horrible person getting redeemed. The only thing we really have seen is some goofy person who did work on it a lot. If someone is truly horrible then they probably won't care enough to try to be better anyway.

[@melissaherrera4065]

About Lucifer being a contradiction, you CAN have parents that are very overprotective and still grossly negligent. My parents where like that. My parents were like that. Incredibly overprotective to the point that I was sheltered and very socially unaware but incredibly emotionally and physically negligent to the point I had to live with a very treatable infection for years and almost passed because of it. I do agree that it could have been better handled, as you said.

[@knownevildoer]

i agree, i also agree that Lucifer doesnt portray this real life contradiction well lol

[@ohw5306]

Hmmmmmm by any chance is it a needle that you accidentally stepped on and that It might go into your blood stream?

[@Mad_Ancient_Computer_700AD]

Slight correction: that statue isn't the one that was taken down. There was a hotter, even sexier statue that it's referring to. The one you showed in the video is the replacement (that seems sexier to us, but at least alludes to his fall)

[@Tyranid_Hive_Mind]

Haven't gotten that far in the video yet, but is this about a church commissioning 2 brothers to make a statue of lucifer?

[@naolucillerandom5280]

​@@Tyranid_Hive_Mind if that's the case the version I heard is that the first one was taken down for being too sexy, but then the second one ended up being even sexier, but by then they had already spent too much money on this and just left it 😂

[@telosnium]

Off topic but mandela pfp??

[@Mad_Ancient_Computer_700AD]

@@telosnium yup!

[@Mad_Ancient_Computer_700AD]

@@naolucillerandom5280 LMAO

[@Suited_Nat]

I find Hazbin to be cool idea! Edit: I haven’t watched Hazbin but god do I love your redesign of Angel! I like the concept of him being a drag queen in hell as well lmao

[@fireflyyay]

@ville__What the fuck is wrong with you?? Get help.

[@Its_Just_I]

​@ville__ .uno reverse card

[@miss.truffle5587]

@ville__ Avarage Hazbin fan response

[@amiable_monster]

​@@miss.truffle5587That's a bot

[@zeppelinzeppelini]

​@@miss.truffle5587 its a bot you guys just ignore and report, hopefully youtube removes him soon :/

[@corvus6612]

Lucifer’s redesign is definitely my favourite (I love the dragon aspects so much - I don’t see that in a lot of modern lucifer art!! And the string-halo is heartbreaking) , but I disagree with his character notes the most. I think him being a distant father that doesn’t know how to parent, while still genuinely loving his kid, is a pretty good depiction of how children can still end up traumatised even if their parents didn’t outright abuse them. Though I do agree that the redemption premise would be more interesting if the cast had a few more blatantly “bad” characters. Hopefully we see that with Alastor next season!

[@moondivine2288]

Adam comes to mind when she talked about blatantly “bad” characters. His whole personality is Lilith’s toxic ex but, he has the material to be more complex. Eve was tricked into eating the forbidden fruit and he probably ate it too. They saw evil get into the world and kicked out of Eden. I don’t care if Valentino doesn’t get redeemed because there are some people that will never change and that topic is valid.

[@MaryamFaisal-qi2ro]

I love that you made the forbidden fruit something other than an apple. The show clearly tries really hard to be different, but they still represented it as an apple. Also as a ginormous Lute fan, I LOVE the design you gave her

[@MisterMoon77]

I appreciate how pretty you draw all your boys

[@Kysa1140]

I love your designs! Angel, Vaggie and Nifty look so good! I don’t understand how people can send hate if they dislike someone’s options on things that really don’t matter 😅

[@neapolitan_pyro5620]

Now this is what I'm talking about.

[@bumpscosity8065]

I absolutely love the way you drew Angel’s drag persona.

[@GHOUSTTM]

17:20 "and i have a little golden thread tied to the tips of all of his horns to look like he's tried to reattach the Halo to his head" MY JAW LITERALLY DROPPED IRL AT THAT SMALL BIT OF VISUAL DESIGN STORY TELLING

[@terryfik_1759]

Nifty's design is fire hello??? I love bugs and I ADORE how you incorporated them into your design sm!!! ❤❤❤ also yeah I agree that animal features should be made more prominent on characters that have them

[@sixoftwelve6363]

I want to see you do Helluva Boss now. It’s funny what you said about Lute reminding you of Hellborn because I thought the same thing about her horns, they look like the Imp’s horns

[@cinnamonsugarcourtney6073]

OH no, I hope that people don't mess with you for doing this. You're a great artist

[@heartbr8]

People do this…

[@AriesAria]

Fun fact: The difference between a pentagram and a pentacle isn't the orientation of the symbol but rather that a pentagram is the star itself whereas the pentacle is the star inside of the circle, whether it is upside-down or rightside-up. The confusion comes from a misunderstanding started by Christianity and doubled down on by counter culture Satanists and similar groups. Anyways, loved your redesigns for these characters. Great job as always.

[@waverlyaltis7171]

I’m currently a college student in a design major, and as I struggle with actual design elements your videos are such a good resource to learn from! The way you clearly explain your research, thought process, and why you choose elements for your designs is so inspiring and helpful. Thank you!

[@ironicdutchmoonshade1394]

I really like it when people explain their character design process. It's always really fun to hear how someone else does things

[@ToyKnives]

I love your exorcist design! The angels looking more holy and pure really accentuates the themes of the show!

[@lucy.jba5]

your designs are all wayy better than the actual shows 😭😭

[@om.i]

facts 😭 this is why i love lavender

[@Minas_No.1_Simp]

Lavendertowne, I love how detailed your videos are! It almost feels like you spend more time making one-off designs than the show creators (/lh). When I need inspiration to draw, I watch your videos!

[@ilmarziano]

I think it's absolutely fine if we're harsh on a product, especially if it's a product we love, because it means we care all the more. What's not ok it's going against each other and insulting each other on our own opinions! I like Hazbin hotel enough and I'm fine with most of the designs, but there are a couple I absolutely despise and I don't agree with some of the common outfit choices Viv makes with her characters! I don't like how the characters don't represent clearly how they died and the time period they're in (you showed quite clearly this even in characters I didn't know about), I don't like how half the cast has a padded formal jacket/tailcoat, a bowtie and/or a tophat, on characters that would make no sense! Like, half the cast shops from one singular shop in all of hell, they dress the same! And this necessarily implies that the silhuettes are all similar to each other! Anyway apart from this I like the show, we can hate some things and love other things, no? (edit) Oh btw I loved your designs to bits!!! You reimagined the characters fixing all the problems I had with them but they are still recognizable! You fixed wonderfully especially Lucifer, which is the ONLY character design I absolutely hate in its entirety, it's giving water, air, nothing, and you made him so compelling, filled with beautiful imagery!!!

[@CatsareevilyetcuteAF]

Hear me out, Hazbin Hotel as an anime but with these character designs. It can still have the same plot/same writing. But like with these character designs and Demon Slayer combat and movement animation.

[@Vampyroteou]

I’m thinking of doing something like this with my best friend! The artstyle is gonna be kinda inspired by yap1co and plastiboo’s art :3 we are probably gonna call it damnation rehab!

[@Ava-zm3jf]

Ugh i LOVE Lucifer’s design here because my biggest critique on his design in the show is that it seems like an afterthought to Charlie’s design. He design to me reads “we needed Charlie’s dad” and therefore much of his character becomes “Charlie’s dad” instead of the complicated character they’re trying to portray. And your design gives homage to Charlie, but ultimately it gives him more mystery and conflict as a character that doesn’t revolve around Charlie

[@pand4696]

Every redesign you make is so beautiful, thoughtful, and well researched. You articulate the reasons behind the changes you make so well and they're all aesthetically amazing. I agree one thousand percent about Angel giving stickbug vibes, lol. I love what you did with him especially. Thanks so much for the amazing content and inspiration - doing this kind of stuff with Hazbin can be so hard in terms of backlash but everything you did with it has been super awesome.

[@abigailkondoudis5772]

I have my own personal headcanon about Lucifer’s contradictory behavior. Mainly that 1: he has some sort of social anxiety/autism on top of his depression (there is no way in the world he is neurotypical) and 2: he’s the kind of neurodivergent who requires prompting and direct instructions in day to day life. He does care about his daughter, he just has no idea how or when to interact, on top of his lack of motivation to do anything non rubber ducky related due to the aforementioned depression.

[@Hereismyhandlehereismystout]

i really appreciated the spider warning! many people don’t do this and it makes such a big difference for some people

[@shadysubject06]

I love that you researched historical drag for Angel's redesign! I know Pride's almost over, but I'd love to see you do a video designing drag personas/outfits inspired by different things. Your character designing videos are my favorites!

[@onyx._.f4ng]

Great redesigns! I love angel dusts design, his original redesign wasnt great, awesome that you went out of your way to redesign them again! ❤

[@LottaPox]

I love Lucifer redesign, it looks so cool, you managed to make him even hotter than he already was

[@savvvysavvv1934]

He can absolutely get it

[@pommedeter7407]

just a little thing about the "Vaggie knows that angels can ne harmed" thing. Its 100% the show's fault for not explaining things clearly, but the angels know they can be harmed by other angels, what they didn't know was that ANYONE with an angelic weapon can harm them. Thats why Vaggie was suprised to learn that the residents of hell could fight back against angels, despite having been hurt herself. But honestly i feel like things like this are things the creators wouldve wanted to be in the show but couldn't because of their time requirements, which is why the moment is so confusing in the show. This is also why a popular critique of season 1 is that it feels rushed, they didnt have the time to fully develop what they wanted to do i think

[@alexbennet4195]

If they knew that angels could harm them with angelic weapons… why on earth would they ever think they WOULDN’T be harmed by those exact same weapons if anyone else was wielding them?

[@elline6745]

​@@alexbennet4195 because in the show, there are so minimal angels who were harmed. For the longest time, everyone think angels couldn't be killed, so if one was harmed (like Vaggie), it's much more reasonable to think it's because the person who harmed them were supreme in power instead of thinking angel as a species can be harmed.

[@KimmyYYStanAcc]

LUCIFER AND HIS STAR NIPPLES ARE SENDING ME ✨✨✨✨✨✨

[@brandijolieart]

As much as I love Hazbin hotel and the original designs, these slap SO much harder. Like I honestly think these designs make more sense than the originals, especially when you read the character descriptions on the wiki and they clash severely with the designs. So honestly this is rlly well done! 💕Would you ever maybe redesign Adam or the Vees, or maybe the Seraphim?

[@DisgustedJarvis]

I’m a simple person. I see Angel Dust in a LavenderTowne thumbnail i click

[@archamedies616]

GRAHHH!! I LOVE WHEN YOU PLACE THE OUTFITS IN PROPER TIME PERIODS!!! ❣❣

[@kianajensen1709]

As a big Hazbin fan, I’m insanely embarrassed that you have to have constant disclaimers to avoid the fandom throwing a hissy fit over someone having a different opinion. I personally also have a lot of criticisms about the show, but as someone who loves over the top designs and has had issues with religion in the past, there’s still parts that really speak to me. But it is DEFINITELY not perfect and the fans need to realize that it’s okay to acknowledge that. Absolutely LOVE the designs by the way! I never really had much of an issue with Angel’s design before, but your vision is so fun and I frigging love it! And the Lucifer design with the fake wings and halo is genius! 😭. And Lute might give me nightmares 😳👏🏻.

[@Nattajack]

I thought angels extra eyes looking like freckles was kinda the point, like they’re almost camouflaged as freckles until he gets mad and they glow

[@SavouryGalette]

I'm sorry that the fandom can be quite aggressive when it comes to this stuff. Just to let you know, as a Hazbin Hotel fan, I do enjoy your redesign videos. Also, WHY THE HELL is your Angel Dust design _so_ attractive?!

[@DoodleDemon69]

You handled the backlash so well. I genuinely don't understand why people were so upset with the original.

[@iclynnx]

Because it was quite misinformed and not properly researched (as in, she didn't even watch all the episodes before making it). And she is still using the fandom wiki, which is full of outdated information. A lot of the sources for the information is from years ago. Before I get blasted into oblivion, I don't mean any hate towards her. Just pointing out that she could have done better. But people could also have not been so aggressive when pointing out the flaws with the video. I don't get why people say the Hazbin fandom is all bad, it's actually quite nice if you stick to the right places. It's really not that hard to just ignore the childish fans.

[@mimilopmemes7915]

@@iclynnx theres no way to know the wiki is inaccurate though. its very common to look at wikis when researching characters. the fact that the wiki is wrong is something no one would expect. they're usually diligently kept up.

[@iclynnx]

@@mimilopmemes7915 We have vastly different views there. I don't think it's that difficult to look at where the sources come from and realize, "wow, these are from old streams and when the pilot was made, years ago. Might be non-canon now". Shout-out to the Wings of Fire fandom wiki for being quite well put together and mostly reliable

[@stephaniebillman5673]

"Important stabing" absolutely iconic 😂

[@pasteluluu4089]

i really liked that you designed a drag angel dust, havent seen anyone do that before!! i also adore nifty!!

[@hoodfalse]

I wanted to wait till both parts were out before commenting on the designs, to really see the full vision. And I gotta say, I really like the final lineup. I like the diversity and I love how you pushed the more animalistic/insect features of some of the characters. I didn’t even know Nifty was supposed to have bug elements in her design My main gripe is with Husk though. I was kind of disappointed when you changed him from a cat to a wolf, because making him a "fat cat" would of been absolutely perfect for his whole gambling backstory. For those who don't know, "fat cat" is an idiom/slang term that refers to someone with extreme wealth, usually in high positions of power. This is perfect for Husk during his peak as an overlord, as he was wealthy and had loads of power. Feels like such a wasted opportunity lmao. Overall really like the designs! Alastor and Angel are probably my favorites

[@lemonwhipp]

I absolutely LOVE your angel design :D he is my favourite character and one that I hold super close to my heart and I’m super glad that you went for historical aspects for his drag persona

[@MaxIsWell_]

I was hoping youd make a part 2, very excited to see what you did with the other designs

[@TinyCupcakeDoll]

I would love to see you tackle Miraculous Ladybug. It's such an inconsistent show, it had so much potential, I love the hell that it is

[@lenkasr1365]

ISTG I DIDN’T WATCH THE FIRST PART OF THIS AND I GOT JUMPSCARED BY HUSK 😭😭😭

[@300dollarscash]

Oh my gosh, I love how much research is put into these designs! You versions of these designs actually make a lot of sense, and I also really like how you read the traits before showing the character you’re making a design of!

[@user-hk3br3wm8m]

The spider legs wrapped around the actual legs is soooo genius!

[@frootlooca]

God these comments are already so annoying. “Erm actually you forgot this minor detail!” “You got this part wrong!!” Like ohhh my god I’m genuinely convinced nobody can ever attempt to redesign these characters without someone saying they did it wrong. How do yall expect someone to know all the details of hazbin when like half the character info was mentioned in an off tweet or an interview. It’s not that serious and it’s just a fun redesign video jfc

[@rabone.]

Exactly!!like how do you expect her to know a VERY tiny detail mentioned in a live stream from like 1683 let the girl do what she wants it's her redesigns

[@summerbiz932]

Firstly, people can give feedback and constructive criticism. Secondly, she'd just have to watch the show, no need for livestreams. A lot can be taken JUST from the show itself. Redesigns are fine, but let people give feedback to HELP creators understand the characters.

[@teetheatersanonymous]

THÉ ANGEL DESIGNS ARE CREEPY AS SHIT, love love love it 🔥 I think the show REALLY could’ve played into the horror of genocide in the name of holiness, would’ve hit hard between the comedic aspects

[@vonfoxula]

1:56 I’m not sure if you’ve seen his full form, but it definitely looks more like a spider!! They all have full demon forms!

[@johnathan1506]

Would have loved to see it in the actual show...

[@vonfoxula]

@@johnathan1506 they gotta work up to it. The show just started, it’d be pretty boring if they revealed everything about the characters right away…

[@dinoheartnerd2265]

Despite long not being a Hazbin Hotel fan/enthusiast (I used to be into it when the pilot came out but my interest died down after that; however, I still have at fairly decent understanding and knowledge of most of the main characters and what changes had been done to them in the current version of the show as compared to the pilot), I absolutely LOVE, LOVE, LOVE your takes and perspectives and alternative versions on everything in your redesign videos for this series, Haley. I always adore your artwork and your character designs, and the fact that you always put SO much thought, research, analysis, critical thinking and creative approach into every design choice you make... I am just so in love with your work, and this video is no exception. You did an absolutely phenomenal job. There are MANY things I love and appreciate about this video and your analysis, opinions and insights, but I would never finish writing this comment if I were to try and explain them all. Instead I just have something very particular I want to dive a little bit deeper into. I want to say a big Thank You for two seemingly small, but for me personally very important things in this video: 1. The fact that you put an arachnophobia warning ahead of showing images of spiders. I have suffered from extreme arachnophobia my whole life, and whenever people are thoughtful enough to put warnings before any content involving real-life spiders, it genuinely helps me SO much and I appreciate it more than I could ever put into words. 🙏🏻❤❤❤ 2. The fact that you mentioned the OCD problem with Niffty's character. There are people in the comments who have mentioned that this, despite being stated on the Wiki, is not actually canon, and that the Wiki contains a lot of inaccurate and/or outdated information, so I really hope this is more the case of someone mistaking a headcanon for canon and presenting it as such in their Wiki description instead of the creators actually giving the character this stereotypical and inaccurate "representation" of OCD. Actually having OCD and being an overly hygienic person who is prone to germaphobia/over-cleaning are TWO. VERY. DIFFERENT. THINGS. I am just someone who happens to be both (as for the former: I have been professionally diagnosed and on medication for OCD for 5 years now; as for the latter: this has always been a personality trait of mine but I suspect it might also be influenced by my autism), but they are completely separate things, and people conflating them in this way, especially automatically assuming that any character who is tidy must automatically have OCD, is incredibly harmful and only contributes to the many frustrating misunderstandings and misconceptions that society has about this disorder. I do not have a concise way to conclude this comment, so I just once again want to say Thank You, Haley. You did fantastic as always. 💖💖💖

[@randomhumanbean5285]

Hey! Idk if anyone is really going to care about my comment, but I wanna say that the wiki is typically not trustworthy and not a good place for reliable information about Hazbin or Helluva Boss. Especially for Nifty, she was never confirmed to be ocd, or fall in love with every boy she meets. She tends to only like guys if they're "bad boys" in her eyes. I'm not sure about the japanese thing, but I've never heard of it before. Not trying to be rude, just pointing some things out! ^^