my FASTEST and BEST HANDLING truck gets new rear suspension

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Lawrence LT Tolman

Lawrence LT Tolman

Күн бұрын

To create the best handling truck in my fleet, the stock rear suspension wasn't gonna cut it. Instead of leaf springs, I have designed my very own 3-link rear suspension that will help this 2nd gen Syclone put the power down to the ground.
Coilover Brackets I'll be using to hold up the rear of the truck
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@richardward583
@richardward583 5 ай бұрын
Yes, everyone is hooked on let somebody do it. You build it, not buy it. That way you know what you have, no one pays as much attention to detail as they do on their own stuff.
@kingbryant5673
@kingbryant5673 5 ай бұрын
It's just getting brackets made chill out. You're acting like he would be having someone else design and build it all
@212caboose
@212caboose 5 ай бұрын
Painting the frame: Eastwood frame paint. Brush it on. Overbuild: No such thing for the most part. "While you're in there", might as well LOL
@ericdyck8364
@ericdyck8364 5 ай бұрын
Overkill is underrated.
@togohunter
@togohunter 5 ай бұрын
You should really consider getting an Arc-Droid type setup so you can cut your own brackets in house. Best of both worlds that way: no-wait for outside cutting and uses existing plasma cutter so only have to purchase the CNC arm.
@workingguy-OU812
@workingguy-OU812 5 ай бұрын
I'm still learning a lot from the fabrication, so thank you for including it all vs. just making a video about completed steps.
@justynporter5721
@justynporter5721 5 ай бұрын
I love how u put in the effort to do everything your best and put ur own twist on it, really makes ur videos and builds unique
@robertmceuen3630
@robertmceuen3630 5 ай бұрын
I'm an old Ironworker. I love to "overbuild" most things. Beautiful work. Thanks.
@ryanturner8318
@ryanturner8318 5 ай бұрын
I have been an apprentice for an iron worker and it’s definitely a very rewarding job to see what you can make and what it looks like in the end. Have built a lot of tilt slab warehouses in phoenix, parking garages, schools, a couple of churches, and grocery stores. The only thing I don’t understand is why they start the projects in the summer time so absolutely no shade anywhere other than in the port o 💩.
@robertmceuen3630
@robertmceuen3630 5 ай бұрын
@ryanturner8318 you're in one of the most honorable trades on earth. So much safer now than when I started. Forced to work slower because of safety regulations. Do it until you retire and you'll be set in old age.🤜
@GoodForYou4504
@GoodForYou4504 5 ай бұрын
Fab skilz at 100%. Nice work LT. I hope everyone realizes how much work it takes to get to the point of actually welding the parts in.
@jamesharlan1877
@jamesharlan1877 5 ай бұрын
I have a love-hate view of your videos. I love them because they inspire me, but I hate them because I want to spend money I don’t have on a project truck that I have yet to obtain.😂
@VinceGuzman
@VinceGuzman 5 ай бұрын
@lawrencelttolman - thank you for updating us on ur 2nd Gen S10 truck and keep us posted on the progress on the truck
@Reggies_shitbox_tj
@Reggies_shitbox_tj 5 ай бұрын
That panhard setup is clean and 100% spot on!
@jorge-_-reza
@jorge-_-reza 5 ай бұрын
Your level of conscientiousness ( aka being @n@l ) with your welding, metal fab, engine building, ( well everything ) is a testament to your character. For me, that is the only way it should be... 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@juanbtf
@juanbtf 5 ай бұрын
during the outro you tell us "come back soon" oh my friend I am always here, I'm just waiting on YOU to drop the video so I can watch, I am always here lol.
@teaguegearhart9851
@teaguegearhart9851 5 ай бұрын
That bracket looks perfect if I could make something like that myself I would. Great content as usual. This thing is going to be well balanced when it takes off the line
@BucketList22
@BucketList22 5 ай бұрын
I love the time you're putting into it and the quality you're getting.
@afmoa
@afmoa 5 ай бұрын
Perfect bite of the project. Great length of the video. You perfectly explained this part of the project. It is looking good LT!
@Sydthesloth45
@Sydthesloth45 5 ай бұрын
I'm enjoying the rear suspension upgrade on the beast
@henriknordeng
@henriknordeng 3 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong with doing the stuff yourself. I do it to and i take pride in beeing able to have that skill. Yes you could save time but then you have not built it all yourself. Be proud of it, noting wonky with that.
@danwhite2821
@danwhite2821 5 ай бұрын
I'm happy that you are bringing us along with this build
@tommydanger2564
@tommydanger2564 5 ай бұрын
Muddy beard had trouble with a custom track bar on the back of an s10. Agreed, worth the time to do it right on the front end.
@RealityUntold
@RealityUntold 3 күн бұрын
The rear roll center is determined by the height of the center of the panhard bar. In your case its center of the rear axle. If you lower it, it would improve roll center.
@taylortankersley6325
@taylortankersley6325 5 ай бұрын
If you have room, you might try to connect the frame rails with a triangulated crossmember at your panhard bar bracket.
@danmarklesr6260
@danmarklesr6260 5 ай бұрын
You do what you do, well! Still watching, God bless.
@9502silverado
@9502silverado 5 ай бұрын
Brackets are massive!
@PrestonFarr
@PrestonFarr 5 ай бұрын
Looks great! As always great fabrication amigo!
@we-r-one_automotive.daniel3108
@we-r-one_automotive.daniel3108 5 ай бұрын
Dude this s10 is gonna be a handling monster 👍🏼. I'm building a simple sbc 94 s10 just to rip around a track a few times before fully retiring
@stephenr7424
@stephenr7424 5 ай бұрын
SUGGESTION: You should make this a faux dually! Replace the fleetside bed sides with stepside skins. This will also allow you to run wider wheels
@xozindustries7451
@xozindustries7451 5 ай бұрын
Looks good, once the boxing plate and shock cross member are in it’ll be plenty strong, it might be a bit heavy but it shouldn’t break
@c0wb0yTV
@c0wb0yTV 5 ай бұрын
LT you are the coolest, keep doing what you're doing
@andyl5134
@andyl5134 5 ай бұрын
That frame side panhard mount is definitely a weak point. A VERY weak point. It’s an awfully long lever arm, with a ton of side load on it. Take a look at how reinforced those mounts are on say NASCAR cup cars. I feel like there needs to be a rail to rail crossmember right above the panhard, and you need to triangulate that frame side mount with braces that run from the bottom of the frame mount up to the crossmember. As is I think it needs more than a simple gusset. Also, what kind of rasp did you use to clean out that inside hole on your axle mount? I need one that can make fairly quick work of thicker metal like that. Thanks.
@brentbeiler7051
@brentbeiler7051 5 ай бұрын
I’m with you all build it yourself, I’m just used to doing it that way. Nice work 👍
@RetroAnachronist
@RetroAnachronist 5 ай бұрын
I’m learning a lot here. Going to be doing a similar rear suspension on my 61 Comet.
@mikeo5668
@mikeo5668 5 ай бұрын
Looks awesome! I can't wait to see it finished and in action!
@erichildreth7562
@erichildreth7562 5 ай бұрын
I honestly don't think that this rear end is going go anywhere!! Nice work and as for the paint, nope!! Not a big fan of paint fumes either and you can see all of the work that you put into it! Awesome LT and congrats on the 160k subscribers!!!
@chrispreston5100
@chrispreston5100 5 ай бұрын
Most dangerous words in mechanic dictionary "while you're in there"
@dylanconn6079
@dylanconn6079 5 ай бұрын
One thing with the panhard bar, keep an eye on the frame side mount. Muddy beards 4x4 has a big s10 an he ripped his off the frame after it was boxed a little. I don't think it would be an issue because your not offroading
@JimFlanagan4206
@JimFlanagan4206 5 ай бұрын
It would be cool to do an independent rear suspension. Maybe from a C4 Corvette.
@julio3421
@julio3421 5 ай бұрын
That is a smart idea. I like that one
@danmitchell1665
@danmitchell1665 5 ай бұрын
Will you ever change on how you do your projects, probably not. My dad is like you and does his projects his way. For example, he decided to stuff a V8 in a Ford Courier. The frame and large starter wanted to take up the same space. He could have used a mini starter, but he wanted all starters to fit. So he notched the frame and then reinforced. Totally not necessary, bit in his head he had to do it like that for it to be correct. Same thing for transmission kickdown. He could have bent the metal one to work, but he wanted to have a cable kickdown. He made all the brackets by hand, found a cable in the junkyard and then fit it all to the truck. The truck just smoke the tires at will and dad could have put some traction bars on it, but he wanted it to be a sleeper. He found an old drag racer from the 60s named Bill Maverick Golden had made traction bars facing backwards that worked really well. My dad bought a set of shocks, made the brackets to mount it on the spring pad and the mounts to connect to the frame at the back of the truck. There was a baja truck kit that would have fit, but my dad needed it his way. After the shocks were installed, the truck had a lot of traction. I could go on about his projects, but for the last 44 years I have watched him take the slow road. Keep being you and I enjoy watching you make the projects yours just like my dad did.
@macgroober1396
@macgroober1396 5 ай бұрын
Do you think the thickness of metal you used is waaaay overkill? I imagine you could use a little thinner and it would still support 1k horsepower
@barrycriswell8967
@barrycriswell8967 5 ай бұрын
Take this for what is yes u can resource it pay 2-3 times, depends on your workload . Or show the process that u can still make +fab yourself with what you got. Theres still students following u 😊
@TandD1w
@TandD1w 5 ай бұрын
Don't use a diagonal inside the frame channel.. Instead us a web stiffener that extends between the two flanges. This is better because it'll tie the two flanges together. If you wanted to box the frame, the stiffener would be concealed inside. Next time you see a steel bridge, look for the stiffeners. They are typically located at the points of inflection.
@steveh4837
@steveh4837 5 ай бұрын
Given the value of your time, the cost of materials and the amount TIG welding you did, I’d say that’s one expensive bracket! You should have Thomas track all that just for fun. Really nice welds, though!
@gizzmo2875
@gizzmo2875 5 ай бұрын
If it were me, I'd have swapped the axis of pivot at the axle to match the frame. Also, consider tying the panhard mount to the LH frame rail for added beef.
@tipetu
@tipetu 4 ай бұрын
8:00 Dont go the CNC route. It is refreshing these days to see a KZbinr actually using skills to fabricate pieces on your own instead of just ordering things or clicking a button on a computer.
@jasonehredt968
@jasonehredt968 5 ай бұрын
Definitely a scenario where being in a hurry is the slowest thing you can do. Sooo much faster to get it right the 1st time.
@Russell_and_Rosko
@Russell_and_Rosko 5 ай бұрын
Dang! Bad ass build!
@michaelweatherford4574
@michaelweatherford4574 5 ай бұрын
The s10 xtreme have a brace that connects the 2 bed mounts as a chassis brace
@lowbudgetbob1155
@lowbudgetbob1155 5 ай бұрын
Kinda overkill on the bracket...btw, the weather was really nice in Colorado Springs Thursday night. Drove up from Az to get some body panels for a car and headed back Friday morning.
@blownaway4371
@blownaway4371 5 ай бұрын
Maybe do a poll on if you should sell your patterns that you cut out(?) Im going to be fabb'n a Dana 60 (from an express van) into a first gen Dakota. And have watched your video on the 3-link. Im just in the planning stage.
@erickbernard8208
@erickbernard8208 5 ай бұрын
I WATTS link is hard to dial in but it is well worth it in the end
@chriswise1232
@chriswise1232 5 ай бұрын
I did one on a Ranger. Very simple, as long as you understand the geometry.
@erickbernard8208
@erickbernard8208 5 ай бұрын
Too bad ur not on the east coast, mainly New Jersey / Pennsylvania , u WOULD be doing the front and rear truss' on my 31k original mile 2 door cherokee, but Colorado is a wee bit far lol, ur one of the best fabricators of our generation due to ur attention to every detail, honestly I want to learn from u personally too, thank you for ur videos to learn from too
@JohnDoe-en9ch
@JohnDoe-en9ch 5 ай бұрын
You should learn to fabricate a sentence before anything.
@mikeholley4488
@mikeholley4488 5 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who squints whenever someone welds on TV?
@mahdialsenussi3066
@mahdialsenussi3066 5 ай бұрын
Nice work 💛 👍🏼
@lakesideguitars
@lakesideguitars 5 ай бұрын
I always get nervous when I see you walk under the back of the frame where you have that converter and springs !
@CPoston420
@CPoston420 5 ай бұрын
Incredible fab skills
@scotthultin7769
@scotthultin7769 5 ай бұрын
518 👍's up LT thank you for sharing 🤗
@tobiasbostwick9002
@tobiasbostwick9002 5 ай бұрын
A 2x2 plasma table would be sweet about now, I say to myself at least once a week.
@davidbutcher1105
@davidbutcher1105 5 ай бұрын
I somehow missed you saying you were building a bracket (I was cleaning up after dinner so wasn't paying strict attention) so I thought for a few minutes you were making the world's largest panhard bar. It was very confusing, but like most things I get wrong, it was my lack of attention that caused it.
@LukeEdward
@LukeEdward 5 ай бұрын
My question on the orientation of the heims is not questioning the articulation. My concern is that your torsional load is now on the ball socket itself since zero fore/aft, or rotational load exists in your 4-link setup. Would that not wear out that bottom joint exponentially faster? Its engineered, intended function is to rotate around the bolt’s axis, not 90 degrees from it on the heim’s socket. Right?
@notallthere9058
@notallthere9058 5 ай бұрын
Nice job. Just out of curiosity the axle bracket for the panhard bar will it interfer at all with the wheels and tires you have chosen?
@cyclicm1622
@cyclicm1622 5 ай бұрын
Why didn't you use a Y link or A link for the top center link, eliminating the need for a panhard bar?
@shyecjj
@shyecjj 5 ай бұрын
Should document all the added materials weight over all and find out the additional weight. Probably be 500 pounds+ of reinforcement negating the objective of "low weight truck" Im not knocking this process however just pointing out it could be a 1/2 weight truck bracket when done.
@ClumsyCars
@ClumsyCars 5 ай бұрын
You need to get sponsored by that cnc plasma guy thats been going around.
@dbfabworks5320
@dbfabworks5320 5 ай бұрын
Awesome!!!
@aubreyroche5080
@aubreyroche5080 5 ай бұрын
So, I have headers now on my Silverado 6.0...and, well... What have You done to mitigate Engine compartment Heat ?????????
@John-4649
@John-4649 2 ай бұрын
Anything worth doing is worth over doing.
@PANTYEATR1
@PANTYEATR1 5 ай бұрын
How hard is it to get the Xtreme body kit for that truck? It would at least look like a 2nd gen Syclone 😎
@peterf.4268
@peterf.4268 5 ай бұрын
Honest question: does heating & bending that plate steel on your bracket create a stronger bracket than if you cut each leg to length & then just welded the ends together as well as welding along the sides?
@paknakal3835
@paknakal3835 5 ай бұрын
LT, if you don't mind me asking, @13:24 why did you swear to yourself you'd tig weld as much as you can? Is it for quality of the welds or some other reason? Thank you
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 5 ай бұрын
Just a skill I always wanted to learn from a young age, to step up my game/quality
@timschrock23
@timschrock23 5 ай бұрын
The number of bars controlling the rear axle movement is debatable
@ItsJustJussi
@ItsJustJussi 5 ай бұрын
Have you guys noticed that the other side of the asile has commments turned off on official youtube channels?
@OsX86H3AvY
@OsX86H3AvY 5 ай бұрын
i love the content of your videos, its better than most car channels, but man LT, PLEASE find a way to cut the volume way down on the stuff you're working on and raise it only when you're talking....use Audacity maybe (audio software) because in an apartment i can't watch it without turning the volume way up then way down then back and forth....content - absolutely perfect - but the audio kills me every time man
@timothycarey3883
@timothycarey3883 5 ай бұрын
You like everything factory stock looking and greasy , rusty frames are stock.😂
@Bking7string
@Bking7string 5 ай бұрын
Any reason why you choose the s10 over a colorado?
@paulcoleman3972
@paulcoleman3972 4 ай бұрын
Anyone have experience with diagnosis of S 10 electrical systems? I need a lil help figuring out an issue in a 2001 reg cab 2.2
@wicked650s
@wicked650s 5 ай бұрын
Are you building a sport truck or a Baja 1000 truck? That stuff is overkill on thickness and size and is only adding weight.
@midwestcatz5896
@midwestcatz5896 5 ай бұрын
is he putting a airplane motor in this or sticking with the v6?
@pwallace5921
@pwallace5921 5 ай бұрын
Man, you have a dedicated shop now. Rigid mount a quality vise. That trailer hitch thing makes me cringe as I watch you combat the slop in that mount. 🥴
@jimrohrer2751
@jimrohrer2751 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate build it yourself as the next guy and I enjoy what you're doing. My thing is I don't understand the desire to TIG everything. What's wrong with MIG?? Additionally, why don't you stick weld all of it? I would run 6013 all day on that and challenge anybody to make a nicer weld, You 7018 guys included, especially since most of you can't tell me the difference between the 2 rods. Just saying.
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 5 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with MIG welding at all, in fact I need to practice that a lot more. Just comes down to preference I suppose
@jimrohrer2751
@jimrohrer2751 5 ай бұрын
@@LawrenceTolman ok. That's a very reasonable answer. Good on you for desiring the practice to improve your skill set. 👍 Keep up the good work. 😃
@JohnDoe-en9ch
@JohnDoe-en9ch 5 ай бұрын
Paint the frame.
@wkjeeping9053
@wkjeeping9053 5 ай бұрын
You have somebody else cut out the metal, you don't know the quality of the metal. Plus now you have the satisfaction of making it yourself
@RiaanNel-y2z
@RiaanNel-y2z 5 ай бұрын
What happened to Nick?
@jackrwallace
@jackrwallace 5 ай бұрын
Please paint the frame…
@gonefishn365
@gonefishn365 5 ай бұрын
Your fastest truck? Doesn't the ugly truck run 10s? Does the S10 do 9s?
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 5 ай бұрын
UglyTruck has done a best of 10.92 1/4 mile so far, the goal for this is mid 10s
@dustinpfalzgraf138
@dustinpfalzgraf138 5 ай бұрын
psych-clone.
@JohnDoe-en9ch
@JohnDoe-en9ch 5 ай бұрын
Is that you Tony Angelo?
@dustinpfalzgraf138
@dustinpfalzgraf138 5 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-en9ch I actually like his a little more just because it's still a V6.
@JohnDoe-en9ch
@JohnDoe-en9ch 5 ай бұрын
@@dustinpfalzgraf138 I think it would be a great heads up race.
@danielweinbaum
@danielweinbaum 5 ай бұрын
I TRULY LOVE THE EFFORT ! BUT WHAT A CRYING SHAME YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT A MANUAL ! WELL, AT LEAST YOUR MOM CAN DRIVE IT NOW ! SAVE THE STICK!!!!
@ryurc3033
@ryurc3033 5 ай бұрын
As much as I like manuals, what manual transmission bolts to an awd Escalade transfer case? A junkyard 4l80, that basically bolts together, will withstand 800hp transbrake launches, with just a shift kit..... One guy who tried it, and it kept destroying 8000$ manual transmissions, every time he took it out. 4l80 is proven. And cheap.
@lowhpgt500
@lowhpgt500 5 ай бұрын
What a shitty thing to say to someone who lost their mother.
@manworksgarage
@manworksgarage 5 ай бұрын
I don't Get why you naming it YOUR fastest. Still has v6 and doesn't run 10s like ugly truck. Probably won't with a 5.3 and no boost
@jeffphillips7290
@jeffphillips7290 5 ай бұрын
If you send it out to someone else to do the work it will never mean as much as you doing it for yourself. Just my opinion but i kinda like looking at things saying I BUILT THAT FROM NOTHING TO WHAT YOU SEE NOW.
@barrycriswell8967
@barrycriswell8967 5 ай бұрын
Take this for what is yes u can resource it pay 2-3 times, depends on your workload . Or show the process that u can still make +fab yourself with what you got. Theres still students following u 😊
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