Lawyer Explains: Elizabeth Holmes Potential Prison Placement

[@usermc1234]

wow, this is the most complete review I have seen, taking a case from pre-trial to sentencing and prison placement. This was kept very real even as the content was engaging and empathetic as possible.Thank you for your effort and time.

[@peterbarlow7781]

Thank you for the insight! Super interesting. Looking forward to the next one.

[@internetpolification]

Quite honestly, I believe that given Holmes’ background, personality, history of bullying, attention-seeking, narcissism, lying and ruling the roost as CEO with people dancing to her tune, she will HATE any sort of prison whatsoever. What a come-down. What a humiliation. Even one year will seem like eternity. And imagine the shame of her having a criminal record and being a ‘felon’ for the rest of her life. How the mighty will fall

[@lisamarielund6292]

This arrogant, narcissistic liar did it to herself. She has nobody to blame but herself for the position she finds herself in.

[@azulgaia7782]

I hope, but, narcissist's get their way in every small way til the bitter end. There is no remorse and I this is certainly not a punishment fitting her crime. If she has to sit in isolation with no one to bully 23 hours a day, that would be punishment. How about doing fake medical experiments to her, injecting her with a potential disease then using the Edison machine to test for it. HAHA

[@tonywilson4713]

I'll counter that with she'll be angry and get frustrated, but wont feel humiliation for the simple fact she is such a narcissist. To feel humiliation she'd have to have things like empathy and shame and I don't think people like her feel anything for anyone but themselves. Don't be surprised that when its all over she will come out blaming EVERYONE else and having every EXCUSE possible.

[@usermc1234]

@@tonywilson4713 usually narcissists can turn their minds like a switch, away from whatever that makes them don't see themselves in a victorious light. They don't look at and see things for what they are, instead they look at it and try to adjust it to what would work for them.. That's why when they aren't being bullies and getting what they want, they don't get the external emotional validation they need.. they will then just get depressed and angry by default.. it's like a mindless cycle that they are regularly in. As it is mindless, I don't think she will relate to whatever that's coming her way, as something she's done to herself.

[@bettyboop-xg6jo]

You are amazing Pete. You know all this. And always on the right side of the law. So fair.

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Thank you so much!

[@Zalley]

You asked for suggestions for your videos. If you haven’t done so already, could you do a similar analysis, giving a likelihood of what type of prison Ghislaine Maxwell will be sent to? Thanks for the v interesting videos!

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Great idea!

[@jenneroc]

Great idea! I’d also like to hear about Maxwell’s conditions during the trial. B

[@MarkSmith-eq5is]

When I was stationed at Goerge Air Force Base in Victorville before they closed it, many of the prisoners would work on the base at various jobs and if it wasn't for their khaki-type uniforms you wouldn't know they were prisoners.

[@patrick6327]

Mark, I had family at George AFB back then and stayed overnight thee a few times on the way to Las Vegas, Green Tree Inn is a great Victorville Hotel and Restaurant.

[@steveshsi7486]

It seems like a person is more likely to rehabilitate in low security. Is there a way to have more serious offenses where the prisoner isn't dangerous to serve in something similar?

[@LawyerYouKnow]

The bureau of prisons controls the classification of its inmates. Understand that rehabilitation is only a side effect of the federal prison system which is design to penalize. An inmate can request a reconsideration from their classification officer, but it is the bureau of prison ultimate decision.

[@ubellubo]

The Elizabeth Holmes case blows my mind for so many reasons. Her invention could never have possibly worked. How could Holmes and her investors have not realised this? What did Holmes imagine was going to happen in the long run?

[@jimamizzi1]

Good point, most of her investors are not from the technology sector, I think that was deliberate. Also you have the greed factor, as for the long run I think she could just say.. sorry guys this doesn’t work and walking away, I’m only guessing.

[@Mary-hs3gu]

Greed, wanting to be at the front of the line (and entitled to do so) along with a YOUNG female with creepy eyes. What more could her investors want?? She was raised to get her way no matter the cost (I'm guessing). Her father was a VP at Enron. So..........

[@ubellubo]

@@Mary-hs3gu I would think before handing someone $100 million you might consult with a couple experts and ask, is the technology plausible? From what I understand, there is no way this technology could have worked, and pretty much anyone with expert knowledge in the field would have known that Holmes’s claims were impossible. But I guess Holmes had a good ruse going. The major investors must have assumed the other investors had done their due diligence. So she just needed to get one big fish across the line and the rest followed. But there is Holmes herself. Supposedly, she is incredibly intelligent. It surprises me she didn't twig herself or that she wasn't told by someone knowledgeable in her circle that the technology could not work. I can only assume that she had this idea that "if you can conceive it, you can achieve it." This principle has been true for some startups like Amazon, eBay, Facebook, etc. But those techs didn't rely on a scientific revolution. They were merely innovating existing technology. Holmes may as well have tried to produce a teleporter - her vision was right out of science fiction. That sort of technological leap takes decades and billions upon billions of dollars of research, and not just a 19-year-old ivy league student with a dream. Anyway, I am ranting. It is a remarkable story.

[@PungiFungi]

To be totally honest, I learned more about the nature of blood tests thanks to this scandal than I have learned my entire life.

[@craiga2002]

"How could Holmes and her investors have not realised this?" The situation fit the narrative, that being that it was fascist sexism keeping down women in the tech industry. The big boys, in order to seem "enlightened," invested and lost.

[@jayshko]

Thank you Pete! Amazing in depth analysis

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Glad you liked it!

[@jenneroc]

This was so fascinating! Everything you said was new learning to me. I do like hearing what prisoners do day to day. The minimum sounds like a mommy vacation! I’d love to have someone cook for me so I can learn a new skill.

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Check out next weeks video, it’s not all fun!

[@oceanside88]

The first strip search may change your mind. Not fun. Shaun Attwood has a lot of info on prison life. Sad.

[@truecourtcrimejunkie2077]

Love your channel

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Thank you so much!

[@hope46sf]

Thank you, again! Sounds like too good a deal for EH! Good Grief!! We as taxpayers will be paying for all of her amenities!! HOW FAIR IS THAT?

[@janfilips3244]

No you won't. Personally I doubt very much she'll get an actual prison time.

[@lisamarielund6292]

@@janfilips3244 Want to bet? She was convicted on four counts. She didn’t takes a deal, she never took me iota of responsibility for her fraud and instead chose to throw Balwani under the bus. She also never expressed any remorse for her fraud and her crime. She may have gotten off with a few years locked up if she had expressed remorse but she did NOTHING.to help her own cause and instead denied all responsibility and instead chose to play the abused white female who was controlled by an older brown man. She also pulled the “I just gave birth and I’m a mother “ scam hoping she will get sympathy from a judge and a jury. She’s going down for probably 10 years.

[@sylviadurham4918]

Great video!! Thank you for the breakdown!! ✅

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Glad you liked it!!

[@digitbiatch]

I’m not going to prison but I think I might still want to spend take a sabbatical in Victorville, sheesh. That place sounds like a nice summer camp.

[@danonfrear9887]

FYI Unfortunately I had to deal with the B.O.P. I had ZERO POINTS cause I turned myself in…They sent me to Terminal Island

[@bebygirl2784]

Wtfudge? Doesn’t sound fair to me

[@vtw2510]

Not to be that person BUT Dublin Federal Correctional Facility is located in Alameda County, the city is Dublin.

[@chriswong3858]

Good video!

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@CIGLLC]

Well done Mr Moderator

[@veronicafiorentino3744]

Hello team, Could you also look into the Anna Sorokin case? May be a summary... PS: Why is there such a long delay in sentencing Holmes?

[@RichardsWorld]

More benefits in a low level prison or camp, but I'd hate to be in an open bay area with dozens or hundreds of others. I'd rather have a cell to myself or just one other person.

[@2bigbufords]

Explain to me how she gets 8 months before sentencing . Our legal system is a joke. We dont have a justice system we have a legal system.

[@whitneyspencer9735]

Exactly! Only in America are you convicted on four counts and able to just go home afterwards

[@JustTony72]

Why does it feel like these minimal/low facilities actually have better benefits than people who are rightfully on the dole.

[@hansscheltema3348]

Charlie Jung met Carlos Lehder and G Gordon Liddy at Danbury Club Fed. Jung and Lehder went on to be the Amazon of cocaine

[@manchitas3531]

Camp Cupcake

[@drones7838]

She did drop out of college maybe she can get a college degree now

[@KatJ3st]

good one lol!

[@Charlesbjtown]

She will not go anywhere near a prison. Guaranteed.

[@janfilips3244]

Would be my guess also...

[@derekcho2312]

recent pictures of a big smiling Elizabeth & her family having a nice stroll on the $ 135 million estate. Piss me off. A young person doing a crime of this nature in the state system most certainly is not strolling & smiling.

[@rudymorales7485]

Glad it's not me. Never been a criminal(yet).

[@lornarettig3215]

She probably still truly thinks she‘s going to skate on this, and get house arrest (in her baby-daddy’s luxury home) for a year and a 1000 dollar fine. Either way, I agree with you - she‘ll do everything she can to just waste time (appeals and so on) and will be living in luxury for a good while yet. Her behaviour merits financial poverty and being unemployable, not cheerfully strolling around baby-daddy’s luxury pad.

[@PungiFungi]

@@lornarettig3215 she is still deluded. She probably saw all those TV crime dramas and is convinced that she will get off on appeal.

[@jameskerich1259]

Wow, I can't believe Victorville facility. I have always had a big problem with making prison basically a resort. The living conditions of this facility are probably as good or better than they could get outside of prison. Prison should be a place they never want to go to again. I can't understand why states set up these facilities like this. Just doesn't seems to reinforce the reality that crime shouldn't pay.

[@danonfrear9887]

Terminal Island is Medium Security Facility cause I only had 15 months sentence I should went to Lompoc Federal Camp….Not a Medium Security Facility

[@pete6705]

I know she’s going to go to one of the easiest prisons in the country, all I care is that she serves at least 2 years. I hope she serves a lot more than that, but I’m nervous she’s somehow going to figure out a way to just get a few months

[@danonfrear9887]

This is Crazy I did my probation volition at Victorville that tell you they have the programs and the thing I saw was barber shop for men

[@azulgaia7782]

yeah, i was thinking that's probably how it actually goes.

[@Hallo-Hallo]

Thanks! 👍😃

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Thank you for watching!

[@Hallo-Hallo]

@@LawyerYouKnow 🤗

[@Saranne1004]

Sounds great, where do I sign up?

[@mikeall7012]

Why do all lawyers have nice suits, slick haircuts and trendy glasses?

[@internetpolification]

Sunny Balwani please!

[@LawyerYouKnow]

You got it!

[@xntumrfo9ivrnwf]

Damn, Victorville sounds pretty awesome. How do I apply?

[@custer2449]

Thank you Pete. May I ask what E.H. was looking at if she had taken a plea? Thank you.

[@LawyerYouKnow]

A plea deal (if there was one) was never shared with the public.

[@internetpolification]

@@LawyerYouKnow I think they were asking for a guess

[@janfilips3244]

@@LawyerYouKnow if you had to guess?

[@custer2449]

@@LawyerYouKnow Just looking for a supposition. Thank you.

[@JeanB-br9nw]

It's her birthday (feb. 3). Is that a coincidence?

[@LawyerYouKnow]

interesting...

[@xntumrfo9ivrnwf]

Sorry for the silly question but... what about the visitations where... more "personal" encounters are allowed? Is that just in the movies or does the US allow that?

[@thermalhill]

In a different video, he states that conjugal visits are not permitted at all in U.S. federal prisons.

[@xntumrfo9ivrnwf]

@@thermalhill Thanks.

[@wstevenson4913]

She's heading for Stalag Luft IV mate🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@boonedockjourneyman7979]

Good job.

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Thanks!

[@williamwong5543]

Why is there no mention of conjugal visits? (Private time with spouse or partner I.e. sex). CA allows them. There’s been reports of her being married, but I’m not sure if it’s been confirmed. Either way, I think it’s an important topic that a lot of people would be interested in.

[@adrienne5791]

Federal prisons do not allow conjugal visits.

[@dlibdlib]

Is there such a thing as a conjugal visit in these facilities??

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Federal prisons do not have conjugal visits.

[@dlibdlib]

@@LawyerYouKnow Possibly the reason she chose to have the child while she could?? Maybe she saw the writing on the wall and realized she has only one shot in her life to have a kid ( given the 20Year possible sentence ).

[@lornarettig3215]

@@dlibdlib No, she had a child as a prop to get sympathy. This is the same woman who loved to brag that all she did was work and sleep, and it‘s hard to take it seriously that she suddenly came over all maternal.

[@Blaise7675]

For your next topic, pleas4 talk about R Kelly. Why haven't we heard about him being beaten up or his suicide? He's most likely going to spenjd the rest of his life in prison.

[@barbthomas8783]

I want to throw up

[@azulgaia7782]

Is Unicor available to women too? All those other benefits you mentioned? Like two separate Humvee shops for women and men? Those are some lucky lucky 300 women.

[@americancitizen748]

Low-security prison is not so bad. Free housing, free food, free college education... Sign me up!

[@LawyerYouKnow]

We will talk about all the not so great parts next week!

[@oceanside88]

Isn't it financial crime? She didn't harm any patients. Not defending her. Just curious 👀

[@syntekz317]

Heyyo!

[@Screenwriting]

It's good to learn Holmes might be able to finally get her college degree while in prison. Down the road it will be easier for her to get a job.

[@couchtater4621]

The Queen Mum? A mechanic of sorts! Blimey.

[@patrick6327]

Elizabeth Homes has partial conviction of wire fraud. Correct? You did not address wire fraud legalities. Can you discuss and site statutes related to not just Holmes wire fraud but the Federal implications if found guilty of w.f. in any capacity. I need court cases sighted if at all possible.

[@ETtheOG]

If Victorville is so good, why do people call it Victimville?

[@danonfrear9887]

He is right everybody works and that’s what the females did rebuilt Hummers

[@ksha8586]

If you cant find a job, go to minimum prison. Unbelievable that going to minimum prison gives you everything you need to work after crime. For free!

[@janfilips3244]

Check out the prisons in Norway ;)

[@manoncoutu3915]

I want to go to this victorville smh get me a lawyers degree and free trainer lol

[@jimamizzi1]

What sort of punishment is this

[@fumblerooskie]

1:20: "Low, minimum, medium, high, and administrative." 1:40: "Minimum, low, high, and administrative." So, you're saying that for men the lowest is Low, but for women the lowest is Minimum? I have a feeling this isn't correct.

[@jennifer7685]

All prisoners should have therapy on a weekly basis. They could be rehabilitated if we invested in them.

[@ericthered1140]

We do invest already its called.....prison.

[@jennifer7685]

@@ericthered1140 and how's that working? we incarcerate more people than any other country, and have a recidivism rate of 65%. our system needs change.

[@ksha8586]

We pay for this campHollywood prison system? 😡🤬

[@27gts]

maybe the courts will make an exception and send lizzie holmes to ADX in Colorado- she would be the only female there- but, she does like to dress like a fella and talk like one as well- read that ADX-Colorado is an administrative prison as well :)

[@christophercripps7639]

Even Bernie Madoff who defrauded 100s over decades & whose victims lost tens of $billions (vs hundreds of millions) didn't qualify for USP ADMAX Florence. ADMAX is "reserved" for terrorists, spies & organized crime felons.

[@27gts]

@@christophercripps7639 maybe you didn't notice the smiley face at the end of my comment- or you are too far up on your high horse?

[@susanparker6223]

I heard she probably will go to Dublin closer to home.

[@sarmadmushtaq118]

👋

[@princesssprinklesthecat4192]

She will end up in the female version of Butner for sure. I did federal time for smuggling pot from Canada to the US. My state time sucked because in my state there are no federal prisons (Vermont) so they hold you in what's called "close" (as in close the door) custody which means you are either in the hole or in a high security (only 3 or 4 hours out of the cell each day) and get all your meals in your cell. It makes you want to sign anything just to get sentenced. I also did state time for starting a fight with the guy who broke into my house and signed the first deal I got because it made me eligible for.release on FSU which is Vermonts house arrest system. Separate from the sheriff's house arrest due to bond conditions while in court before sentencing.

[@newhorizon4066]

Sorry to burst everybody's bubble but I heard thru the grapevine that intense negotiations going on right now are how many body guards she can have while serving time in prison.

[@LawyerYouKnow]

Interesting

[@mariadelmarperezgil6415]

I wonder if Elisabeth Holmes sees these interesting videos and tries to predict her future.

[@LawyerYouKnow]

👨🏻‍⚖️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@janfilips3244]

If she did, she might learn something...

[@JoeSmith-jo1tf]

She should have gotten life in prison. The scale off fraud she perpetrated is massive, she caused financial ruin for so many.

[@annclairepahlavi7622]

Who? She’s not Bernie Madoff, for crying out loud. The only financial losses were possibly those of her investors, who are grown people who are used to writing off investment losses and in fact had the resources to check everything out and apparently didn’t. She didn’t knowingly steal hardworking people’s pensions or retirement funds. There is a difference.

[@JoeSmith-jo1tf]

@@annclairepahlavi7622 She effectively stole 100 millions of dollars, the amount of wealth she destoyed is mind boggling. She also has zero regret what so ever over what she did, she is a habitual liar. I could easily see her trying something like this again. Needs a very long sentece so other people don't pull stuff like this.

[@mrandersson2009]

Send her to northern Alaska

[@sabrinagrant8003]

👍🏽

[@ezragonzalez8936]

(1) year house and $100K fine that is all she is getting they let her bond for 500K and not seen as a flight risk umm interesting .. Cheers From Salt Lake City

[@donparnell309]

Holmes speaks Mandarin, so she could teach English as Second Language to any Chinese prisoners.

[@katieh193]

I'm guessing she'll be sent to Victorville. It's where Lori Laughlin went and seems to be a club fed.

[@msudak4]

Why is she not in jail now?

[@LichenAndMoss]

I can save you all 25 minutes. She'll go to Dublin.

[@thermalhill]

Agree. There is no way she would want to go to Victorville--6 hour drive from hubs and baby--vs 30 minute drive to Dublin. I doubt EH wants to become a dental hygienist or plumber but I could see her perhaps teaching GED courses if they let her.

[@Screenwriting]

THE TINDER SWINDLER on netflix is huge right now. Why isn't that guy (Simon Leviev) doing serious time for defrauding women out of millions? What can be done to throw him in prison?

[@jonfreeman9682]

She must go to jail. But likely won't do any time and Sunny will take the fall and go to jail for 10 years.

[@yvonneschwartz3929]

A person killed himself because of how she mistreated people who had real concerns about the lies. She is responsible for that and she was not as naive lying constantly about things not working in her lab. She deserves jail time! Fraud should be a serious crime and causing a suicide even if that was not her intention still is a consequence of all the stress she was creating for her employees by lying. She will get out of jail in half of the time for good behavior anyways.

[@martaakh8105]

He is beautiful man even if presented publicly as woman

[@ps3301]

Tinder swindler is more fun to watch

[@tigertiger1699]

Is it the state prisons that are nasty?

[@LawyerYouKnow]

We will be talking more about what it is actually like in person next week!

[@tigertiger1699]

@@LawyerYouKnow Outside the US have always heard how bad US prisons are.., cheers🙏👍

[@nuwildcat90]

I think she took take the training to be a plumber. After all, she used private detectives to search for leaks in Theranos. She certainly took her cues from Chuck Colson.

[@ernestclayboniii656]

She dropped out of college she doesn't have a college degree.

[@Aisaaax]

Can you have a pc in those prisons?

[@annclairepahlavi7622]

It’s ridiculous to send her to prison and subject her innocent child to the loss of her mother. She was 19 years old. She made mistakes. She had a vision and it didn’t work. It would be much better to sentence her to 10 years of community service at an NGO that helps disadvantaged children or those with disabilities. She should be putting her knowledge and any skills she does have to good use.

[@SideSwipeGTA]

This comment is ridiculous. She wasn't 19 when she was defrauding people with fantasies of science fiction medical technologies that she knew didn't work. She knew she was going on trial and decided to get pregnant anyway. Being the narcissist she is she probably thought it would get her sympathy points with the jury. She deserves to go to a real prison, not Club Fed for a long time.

[@devongoodman8859]

Jan 6th defendants. Do shows on the Jan 6 defendants.

[@hoosierdaddy8002]

Minimum security prison. She`s too pretty for regular prison.

[@Draeber]

you say lets talk, but dont let me get a word in. how rude!

[@chair8540]

i wonder the most if she still has this deep voice or was it fake. did she sound the same when testifying, lol

[@lindatary4350]

What if she takes the kids and skips to a foreign country? She's got the money!

[@jauneetbrun]

Do you think Elizabeth Holmes can keep her baby in the prison nursery? There are two nursery programs in California, do you think she'll want to bring her baby with her? California has six small mother-infant prison facilities, all run by outside contractors with an on-site representative of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR). They house only 1% of the 10,000 women in state prison facilities. The three Family Foundations facilities are located in Fresno (contracted by WestCare), Santa Fe Springs (Los Angeles Centers for Alcohol and Drug Abuse-LACADA) and San Diego (WestCare). Women are sent to the Family Foundations Program by their sentencing judge. The Community Prisoner Mother Program (CPMP) currently consists of three facilities located in Oakland (Project Pride), Pomona (Prototypes) and Bakersfield (Turning Point). Women are transferred to these programs after entering state prison and applying to CDCR for admission.

[@azulgaia7782]

That is exactly why Liz had a baby. Wonder if the child will be too old by the time she actually goes to prison.

[@juliesimonson9181]

That’s offered at state prisons but I’ve not heard of it for Federal prisons .

[@andreareid8484]

I wish you American people leave this case alone try talking about your own elite in America that at present all you people can do is speak about this case as lawyers in the UK nocase is aloud to be discussed while the case is live how many more people will be on media coverage of the case in the u k if a lawyer was caught reaching out to the media this would have a disastrous effect on the case in a court of law which the judge would in some cases throw the case no one is guilty till proven guilty in a court of to la

[@SeanChYT]

She could always contemplate transitioning, and try to get into a man's prison.

[@reinplat]

You may have a point; she's already got the voice down.

[@azulgaia7782]

but no breast feeding, eh?

[@ollienilson1644]

She trye to make som good, but it failed. Not punishable. Because if she succeeded, she would have received a Nobel Prize

[@internetpolification]

Where have you been? Done any research? No….

[@lornarettig3215]

But she could never have succeeded because her idea defied the laws of physics. And she knew this because she was told, multiple times, by actual experts in the field with more than a high school education.

[@ollienilson1644]

@@lornarettig3215 Yes, I Yes I agree. She had too little education for the assignment, but that does not take away from her that it was a good idea and it had saved many sick people in time.

[@lornarettig3215]

@@ollienilson1644 Ollie, it **wasn’t** a good idea. That’s the point. It isn’t scientifically possible. No amount of money or time would have brought success. Actual scientists know this and told her. And she was too pompous and pig-headed to listen. She deserves whatever is coming.

[@ollienilson1644]

@@lornarettig3215 Now you're really out waffling. Why one of the richest millionaires in the United States invested capital in the case. Are they idiots ? I do not think that. Do you?

[@gff1371]

You want to send her to victimville. Hahaha