Lawyer Reacts To FATAL FLAW In Miley Cyrus "Flowers" Lawsuit Update | Court Document Breakdown

[@enfortro]

I guess I can’t write lyrics about buying flowers now 😂😂

[@eternityfreeblue6377]

Barbra Streisand sings You don`t bring me flowers anymore Bruno Mars answers I should´ve bought you flowers and Miley Cyrus answers I can buy my self Flowers. Songs about flowers are there a lot of. I wonder, Where have all the flowers gone

[@tommyapocalypse6096]

Little girls have picked them, every one. 😁

[@MadNoisy]

Top comment imo, lol Where Have All The Flowers Gone · Marlene Dietrich .... I lost count how many people cover this song and made a new version of it 😅 There is a distinguish difference between the songs and I hope they can make a settlement or something.

[@OttoNomicus]

The notes were different, the tempo was different, the words were different except "I", "bought" and "flowers". Is buying flowers something uncommon?

[@parisunltd]

I could be wrong, but I’m curious about how persuasive expert evidence would be here. If a musicologist took the snippets “I can buy myself flowers” and “I should have bought you flowers” I feel like the most objective similarities would be lyrical and thematic (buying flowers and strife between lovers). However, melodically (pitch AND rhythm) the two phrases are distinct enough that a child would be able to tell the difference. I’m also not sure if there were other examples of how the songs were similar, but something about this being the main example fills me with doubt.

[@ThePointOfVolitility]

nope..7 syllables,Subject Adjective Nouns gingers..all ordered to specific places boughtwo ...I need to get some flour..I need to purchase the shirtless mallard while its able to be flowered...

[@JeighNeither]

I'm a musicologist. This lawsuit is complete bullshit.

[@playinggames4u364]

those are not just similar, Mileys song is a counter part to Bruno's song, sort of a response where she tell women they should not expect men to treat them right, but they should and are able to treat themselves better than any man ever could. She stated it was totally inspired in Bruno's when asked about the similarities. Edit: and yeah, as it was stated in this video she made the song "dedicated" to Hemsworth because he dedicated Bruno's song to her when they were a couple.

[@aissa2750]

I wonder how this works in the context of something like a rap battle.... an artist drops a song, then another artist responds to the lyrics in another song...the lyrics of the 2nd song were inspired by the 1st song

[@andydavis8437]

As an oceanographer, they are giving sharks a bad name.

[@roembaur]

I thought this song was a response to Mars' "When I Was Your Man" song and that Bruno not only knew about it, but was contacted to sing on Miley's version. And that he declined, saying it was such a great song he didn't want to overshadow it as it's own piece of music/art. Maybe that's all lore created to sell the song, but I remember reading that somewhere. So... if that's true, and it was meant to be likened to the original song; that is actually the intent of the song. What a buzz kill, if they win this lawsuit. IMHO this is money grubbing leaches killing creative collaboration, but I par for the course these days. These people will stop at nothing to make a profit, even if it's killing off the very thing that makes them money: creation.

[@dominicbugattiofficial]

Absurd case. The song is a wry RESPONSE to the Bruno Mars song, not a COPY of it. Next!

[@dc100dc100]

Are we going to sue every “response song” from the 80s and 90s? The guy’s side vs the girls’s side is a long tradition in music.

[@ComicPower]

The lawsuit was stupid. She could claim 1st amendment as parody.

[@lyfandeth]

I copyrighted the note D flat. I'm gonna sue every who has every played it without my permission!

[@denyel_]

your honor it was a C#

[@tootall849]

@@denyel_ lol

[@eduardocruz4341]

@lyfandeth Copyright Office: you can't copyright musical notes, sirs. Your copyright is rejected.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CandyAppleBlue]

Men at Work's lawyers should have used this "Fatal Flaw" argument when they were sued in a similar manner for their song "Down Under" which really damaged the bands bank accounts and put them "Down Under". If my memory serves me well, they were sued by an investment banking company too not the original author. Who died years before the suit was filled. Those money grabbing bastards. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe you should do a video on that case too as a follow up to how these companies might be successfully taking advantage of this tactic? I love the way your mind works Miss Crystal 🔮 Thank you for all that you do for our community. 🙏🏻

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[@fakshen1973]

Until Bruno Mars says he's in on the case, they've got nothing. In the follow-up, can the investment company sue Bruno Mars for not participating in the court case thus denying the investor their damages? That would be a great angle. Also.. love the Annie Lenox power-suit photos as of late.

[@danlowe8684]

Question: Does filing the motion to dismiss extend the defendant's time to respond?

[@musicalADD_theband]

People try to sue because one line in a song sounds kind of similar??? That’s absurd

[@PeacefulMelodies-777]

Will be interesting to see the results of this one.

[@Meditations2024]

Having listened to both, I award Miley Cyrus as the winner of *the best* jilted lover flower song controversy. Case closed. 🤡 Bruno Mars needs to work on his flower song game. 🤔😉

[@officialjerel]

Why wouldn’t they get clearance before releasing the song, it’s clearly a response to “When I was Your man” they didn’t think it was necessary?

[@Kowalski301]

A response to a song, intentionally or unintentionally, is not a copyright infringement. Or to put it another way, every single love song and every single breakup song, or every single song about light and day, and every single song about night and darkness would essentially be copyright infringements..

[@mrr5835]

I was thinking the same thing, but hopefully they planned ahead knowing this could happen (changed it enough to pass). Although honestly i always just assumed he was given some sort of credit. Guess not.

[@Jessica-tp4gj]

I could be wrong but I think I read that Miley loved “when I was your man” and played it at her wedding - she even told Bruno how it was the couple’s favorite song. When she found out she was allegedly cheated on throughout her marriage she wrote “Flowers” (after getting permission from Bruno) as a “revenge” song. It deliberately takes the sentiments from “when I was your man” and says “I don’t need you for this, you sucked at it anyway. I can do all these romantic things for myself”.

[@Evangelionism]

Another day, another Disney lawsuit. The Mouse House couldn't catch a break if it had cheese all over it. 😭

[@winstonsmyth1646]

Flowers is an original song!? I thought it was a cover.

[@enfortro]

I thought so too. Maybe it has influence from older ballads, chords etc.

[@t23001]

Part owners of assets file lawsuits all the time without being in agreement with other owners (stocks, bonds, real estate, etc.) It’s most likely that Mr. Lawrence conveyed all his rights to the new owner, so essentially the investment company is the equivalent of Mr. Lawrence. If a copyright is infringed upon for paintings, photos, movies, etc. the current owners can sue -they don’t need the permission of the original creator(s). If this particular song is structured as a LLC then the operating agreement may specify the members’ rights to bring litigation.

[@jens86]

I would think it would be quite important to get a ruling on the angle they take with regards to the copyright act - unless there is already other cases that have set a precedence?

[@damianrf6309]

Open and shut case. They both clearly contain the word “flowers”.

[@12B4Christ]

@@damianrf6309 Oh crap...songs with "flowers"...this is about to get ugly lol.

[@damianrf6309]

@ 😂

[@tsikoutsikou]

These songs are as similar as a dictionary is to a novel...

[@RenNotRen]

❤🌻🌻

[@Erebus369]

Investment companies should not have any right to work written by an artist. All copyright should be rewarded only to the artist/writer at the full completion of their track or work

[@stoneagedjp]

Miley would like me on her jury.

[@scottyjordan3036]

Its clearly the same and MAIN hook even if it's a reply song or what ever.

[@itsmikeloll]

@@scottyjordan3036 "clearly the same" are you actually deaf ... ? and you can't just say "a reply song or whatever" as if that isn't crucial context... Barbra Streisand sang You Don't Bring Me Flowers Anymore in 1978, and bruno's song arguably has a lot of inspiration from that one. Response songs are not uncommon.

[@keithdf2001]

With the kitchen sink approach can the lawyers suing get in trouble for abuse of process?

[@VoidR]

The first guy to have the word "Love" in the title of their song could make BANK suing Whitensnake. I wonder how much I could buy partial ownership of that concept for.

[@SimonJM]

It's music, not an investment.

[@edexter97]

I haven't talked to sound exchange to see what happened, but I am guessing that maybe there is overlap from ascap and they canceled me for some reason without telling me anything... I am just guessing though. 200 plays is probably short of $10 though.

[@ThePointOfVolitility]

Christian Winter Holiday Hymnals vsTwisted Sister R.Snyder

[@12B4Christ]

The punchline here is a lawyer boasting about being a music industry related lawyer trying cases involving music, calling these two songs very "similar" at least twice here, meanwhile the fact is they're not even close to "similar" in any aspect of music, there is nothing to compare. The lawsuit brought by greedy boys...allege "the Cyrus song would not exist without the Mars song". And...? Thats the same as saying nearly all of Swifts songs wouldnt exist without her dozens of breakups with boys. Can the boys sue? Laughable. Do you have any idea how many major songs throughout history were inspired by another song or its lyrics? Bruno wants no part of this, he knows better, which tells the whole story in itself. The fact is as a complimentary response to Mars' song about Mileys breakup, is picture perfect.

[@denyel_]

this isn’t Eamon’s ex girlfriend singing his song back at him if anything its closer to reference or when artists use “99 problems” in their lyrics

[@denyel_]

i’d love a video on “F U Right Back” now that i thought of it

[@hadleymanmusic]

Happy Birthday Miley, workin girl!

[@Lorenzo757zo]

Hey, can u do a video on songtrust new 2025 terms of service I think it's saying they can take class action settlement money and it will go to them regarding royalities

[@universalvibe72]

This is a really good interesting case. There are two issues here, lack of standing and the fundamental kernel of facts. You know the root cause that brought everyone together to argue about the copyright infringement. So let's just say this case is dismissed, who pays all the attorney's fees ? ( because plaintiffs sued everybody and their sister ) What is Bruno Mars take on the situation?

[@mikepaulus4766]

Katy Perry lost a suit on a song that had zero common lyrical content and zero common melodic content. The only thing in common was a similar keyboard tone. So if a case gets to a jury anything can happen.

[@Drufi]

@@mikepaulus4766 dark horse? That was appealed and dismissed. But there was lyrical content in common, the intro words “you know what it is” which means Perry’s songwriters should have lost IMHO

[@JeighNeither]

I'm a musicologist. The lawyer made a slightly misleading remark here. There is next to no similarities in those two songs & one happens in a verse while the other is it's chorus. They're in different keys, different meter, I could go on & on.

[@richiebricker]

Those songs are not alike except for the word "flowers". I have a couple songs about buying flowers. Not even the phrasing match "i should have bought you flowers" and " I can buy myself flowers" are different. Brunos uses it once at the end of a chorus and mileys reoccurs at the beginning of the chorus. They are in different keys. Buying flowers is a common thing and probably been used in a million songs because musicians like to be romantic. Damn near all musicians have written songs about buying flowers. You cant copywrite a common phrase. Im sure more than one artist has written "I Love You". Should I sue them

[@robertprice4826]

Ed Sheeran pretty much proved that there's so many chords, so songs are gonna sound so close to one another. It was a diss track to her ex husband and their wedding song was if I was your man.

[@EvelioPerez]

We all know this story right there is absolute BS

[@scottyjordan3036]

when you're a kid you write songs in your head using other peoples hooks. Until you have your own story.

[@12B4Christ]

"Top Music Attorney"... you keep feeding that ego!

[@hadleymanmusic]

You know this is a lawsuit against inspiration

[@hadleymanmusic]

Great, KISS taught me electric now im gonna be sued by Gene.

[@Robin-wm3hv]

Drop the Case..it's not the Same Song..

[@brendajoyce4091]

First time I heard it I thought of Bruno Mars so g

[@vanessaadams3500]

The copyright should be dismissed because this is a standard call-and-response song done many times over especially in R&B where one artist will sing something like I don't want know scrubs and another group will sing I am not no scrub and go on....This dumb law suite is a collaborator and artistic expression buzz-kill...😵‍💫🧐😕

[@n-da-bunka2650]

So... your opinion on the Cyrus claim is....? Do you agree that "since those suing are NOT original authors... they have no valid claim"?

[@Charles-xx8]

What happens if it was found that Miley infringed the copyright in this situation?

[@scottyjordan3036]

They cut her vocal cords.

[@swedensbestrapper]

​And use these 2 make her a virgin again​@@scottyjordan3036

[@robertprice4826]

@Charles-xx8 I don't think they have a case, they don't own the copyright, or anything. They don't own anything. Their an investment firm

[@Charles-xx8]

@@robertprice4826 let me rephrase if the owners of the song were in agreement that she infringed and was deemed so in court.. What would happen to her and the song?

[@MaleficaWitch]

One has to pay damages. Sting gets money to this day from the Diddler cause the Diddler sampled his song without permission. So Sting gets royalties.

[@poorsillyboy]

They’re all lying it’s so sad!

[@figgettit]

how do judges respond to this woman's youtube hair?

[@alex0589]

They buy her flowers, then sue the ever loving sht out of each other for even referencing the concept of flowers

[@k.t.ingram375]

they only sue when the song makes millions, money grab.

[@TheRuben_music]

What? Give me a break! This is too silly! One sentence and almost the same melody. lol?

[@eternityfreeblue6377]

No it's too different melodies. Compare the music notes between the two songs instead, dear you

[@ThePointOfVolitility]

best to get the names of the cabinet makers, framers, electricians..gardner...mailman..in case the sink dont fullfill the expected amount..err i mean..ALLL of EM..THey meant TO HURRT me with hot water and slippery tiles..they knew..HeeLLO they are Liscensed Blatant disregard Gross Negligee...of the upmost

[@officialWWM]

Why do you hope Miley is successful, she clearly ripped off Bruno’s song!

[@rcpteb]

They are not the same song. Nothing is the same. The words. The chorus. The instrumentals etc.

[@officialWWM]

@ lol, are you deaf?

[@ThePointOfVolitility]

looks like....Coca Cola, Pepsi, Phillip Morris and SC Johnson Wax.. are in the clear ..good..good i was worried but carry on.

[@geoffstockton]

I wonder how this factors into Bruno Mars basically being the financial property of the MGM Grande Casinos due to his gambling addiction. Is there a means of finding out who funded these lawyers?

[@rcpteb]

@@geoffstockton He doesn’t. His song actually started get much more air time after her song came out. Which is good for him.

[@alex0589]

Bruno Mars is probably flattered his song was relevant enough to have been "responded" to. There's not even ANY musical or even lyrical overlap in those 2 songs. These music lawsuits need to be made illega/impossible unless you have actual grounds and actually own the "original".