so there's a pretty good chance Adam is already Soulkilled, which would easily explain how Adam can be fighting Blackhand on the roof in the DaiOni, a special powered armor that can only be worn by a specific Alpha-class full-body conversion borg and takes like six hours to fire up and fully assemble, and simultaneously downstairs in his NovelTech Samson (NOT an Alpha-Class borg, meaning that he would have to jack out his biopod, get the Alpha-Class pulled out, jack back into the new unit, and then start the several hours process of putting on the DaiOni after about an hour had already passed) fighting Shaitan and killing Johnny Silverhand. According to Pondsmith's own repeated descriptions of the night of the AHQ disaster cross referenced with his own lore, the only way Adam's actions are logistically possible is if he's already FULL full borg, and an engram with multiple copies of himself out there. Consider if this is why the (Pondsmith approved) anime has Smasher ask David Martinez about becoming a construct.
@alexhulea2735 Жыл бұрын
that's what i said some time ago...... well, that and 'no one can survive the temperatures at ground zero of a nuke'
@squigglesmcjr199 Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't arasaka have an engram of smasher????
@LayedBackGamers Жыл бұрын
@@alexhulea2735I seriously wonder how Pondsmith will explain Blackhand falling into a nuclear blast and rubble.
@RodgerSkelton Жыл бұрын
@@LayedBackGamers when you have that much Cool not even Radiation can melt your icy presence.
@alexhulea2735 Жыл бұрын
@@squigglesmcjr199 i'm not sure they had a 'secure your soul' level of precision on Soulkiller back then. by what i remember, Soulkiller was more of a 'kills on use' kind of thing, even the one Alt made for Toshiro in Never Fade Away.
@MrSpannners Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I never realised that Smasher was actually there at safe house attack to get Hanako back!
@gitminez Жыл бұрын
When he asks Faraday who the fucc are you I cracc up every time
@LayedBackGamers Жыл бұрын
Faraday thought he was actually a somebody. But nope, just some more collateral damage in Smashers duel!
@JohnnySilverwrench Жыл бұрын
Smasher "everything is meat ready to be cooked!" 😂😂
@BL00DYME557 ай бұрын
@@JohnnySilverwrench Smasher "everything is a cut of f&%$able meat..." FTFY
@ironichoneybadger506610 ай бұрын
In the table, top game, smasher is actually not beatable, he is basically used as a “the story is over now” encounter for players
@eliotguerra67835 ай бұрын
He's like how Legends used Darth Vader.
@smasher66554 ай бұрын
Hell yeah
@sonatine32663 ай бұрын
Which is basically because of his modified version of the FBC named IEC Dragoon. The German megacorp IEC was the only megacorp able to produce such a powerful full body conversion - not even Arasaka was able to copy or build something like that. And after using the Samson frame and other body conversions, Smasher was finally able to get his hands on what we see in CP2077 - a modified IEC Dragoon. Regarding the lore you'd need a full Arasaka battalion (>1000 Arasaka soldiers) to equal the power of one IEC Dragoon.
@MrSpannners Жыл бұрын
You should always let smasher live. In his eyes mercy is for the weak. To be pittied and left alive would basically ruin his ego.
@BartmossInfinity Жыл бұрын
You back with a another banger video i see
@LayedBackGamers Жыл бұрын
If I don't get it out of my system I might implode choom!
@zerotodona1495 Жыл бұрын
This goes into lore much more than most people. I love Adam, he’s so cool!
@emerytharp6858 Жыл бұрын
This is small, but thank you for keeping your sponsorship tame. The last youtuber I watched who was doing one was started spouting none sense about "Improving reaction time" like it was some snake oil super drink.
@LayedBackGamers Жыл бұрын
I will NEVER ride a partnership that hard choom! I'm not here to necessarily peddle it as much as I can, just to inform. Seriously it's just a drink alternative with a lot of flavors, don't know why some play it like you're coked up 😵💫
@thegoodfolk Жыл бұрын
The difference in canon is easily explained not through Johnny with unreliable memory but because Pondsmith didn't want Morgan Blackhand in the game
@zerotodona1495 Жыл бұрын
Morgan is pretty OP. In some way, V is his replacement. You can literally play a no kill run and even make your guns deathless. You beat Adam and you don’t have to kill him.
@rkxxx5916 ай бұрын
Adam from street gang life to corpo life & have an office near beach on the cargo ship. Mike pondsmith always working on details story of life every characters.
@mkmfan3197 Жыл бұрын
This makes me think of something else. I never considered there could be multiple copies of an engram. I always assumed, by jacking in Alt into Mikoshi you're destroying everything including that copy of Saburo. But now... Damn there could be other copies of them out there. Didn't Hanako say Mikoshi exists in multiple branches of Arasaka?
@chaos90597 күн бұрын
When Alt was trapped in Arasaka. She fragmented into multiple pieces. Murphy shattered the pieces and hoped to retrieve them later. One piece becomes the 2077 Alt. I think Johnny is in pieces too. 2077 Johnny is one of these pieces. His memories are warped. Since he doesn't have the full picture. Johnny connects a few of the dots together. This is his truth. Though not the truth as we know it. If the pieces are brought together. I wonder what it would look like. Johnny would have to battle with three different sets of memories. The memories from the table top game. The butchered memories of 2077 Johnny. As well as memories as V's guide or fairy god father. It's going to be one big clusterfuck.
@TimesFM4532 Жыл бұрын
Love how little Morgan repects Smasher
@LayedBackGamers11 ай бұрын
It's so amusing that Smasher takes the idea of flesh so personally while Blackhand just wants the cash
@christopherfleetwood52525 ай бұрын
19:15 So the Johnny Bravo at home edition 😂
@coolergappney1943Ай бұрын
Dammit i was going to say the same thing
@MrBark1969 Жыл бұрын
Keep it up bro, always keep a eye for ur videos when they release 🔥💯
@Rolandais Жыл бұрын
While I understand this is me being a pedant, it does seem pertinent with how misunderstood psychology is by a lot of people who are in the TTRPG world, but, ASPD, or anti-social personality disorder, is the term used by medical professionals to describe the spectrum of personality disorders that Psycopathy and Sociopathy fall under now, and while you can be "turned into" a psychopath, or sociopath, it is generally agreed upon that the causes of Psycopathy are genetic or inherited traits, that are triggered in people who are or become sociopaths, in other words, not all sociopaths are psychopaths, but all psychopaths are sociopaths.
@danielhogan62552 ай бұрын
cyber psychosis is predominately more to do with biological rejection rates and genetic predispositions towards addiction, violence and such. Yes heredity of neuro-divergency is a factor, but think of it more like a mind breaking roid rage, that leads to mania with a inclination toward extreme violence. the uncontrolled hallucinations are interesting..perhaps a form of dementia? No no that wouldnt be right.. subjects dont suffer short term memory loss, recollection is fine...associative agnosia? Perhaps a breakdown in perceptual model's? In the case of maine throwing a bunch of gas barrels around dorio's body, appearing like tree trunks, either he: 1) is unable to attach the correct mental model to the object, thus sees logs, instead of barrels 2) or he is full clocking out of reality, and during these uncontrolled hallucinations, sensory surface feedback is further feeding the hallucinations mental validity. Whats most interesting is that to my knowledge, no cyberpsycho reports include the subjects suffering tactile hallucinations..none "feel" things crawling on them etc when hallucinating.... Degradation to the cerebral cortex... Holy shit!! What if cyber psychosis affects the old brain?!?...sensory feedback, motor function, raised anger levels.. It all goes through there! the spinal chord..sensory overload in that area... Like an introvert... Its effectively making people chimp out and snap while hallucinating!!! Hallucinations cause the subject to temporarily disassociate from reality, and, like a sleepwalker...wake up the cyberpsycho....Overload! Panic! Mayhem! And You get a chimp brained, borged out lunatic screaming incoherently and lashing out with mantis blades because of animalistic survival instinct at a wrongly perceived threat! God damn.....not bad...😎
@Sithis21129 күн бұрын
@@danielhogan6255could also be a Rouge AI or a hacked cyber eye implant used to push people over that edge as well. Either by simply being picked (unlucky as all hell) to be a mark for a snuff brain dance. Or piss a corp or to close to the blackwall and a A.I. infects them with this 'code' to spread the information disease. It then jumps to a new host or is destroyed fully when the brain 'mainframe' is destroyed. My two cents to add or theorize to what you said bro.
@Sithis21129 күн бұрын
@@danielhogan6255youtube keeps deleting my reply to you but what if it's a infection or hack caused by A.I or people selling illegal brain dances (like in the anime with the sandy guy.) Either you are unlucky and have eye cybernetics and those get hacked to alter perception reduce sleep ect. Just adds tons of stress till sleep deprived till you snap. Destroy the brain basically removes the now motherboard.
@suthunrath122023 күн бұрын
So that's why Atom Smasher always wanted High collateral situations it helps keep his cyberpsychosis at Bay. Almost as if his cyber psychosis has an appetite.🤔 Just a thought
@tomcascaddan8319 Жыл бұрын
You seem to think Smasher wears the Dai-Oni armor all the time. That's incorrect. Per the TTRPG, he donned it just once, during the battle of Arasaka Tower in the fourth corporate war. As is seen in Johnny's flashback, at that time Smasher was a standard Alpha class Full Cyborg. Per the books, like Shaitan he had the biopod cyberware option. Which meant you could destroy his body but he would survive if the pod was retrieved in time. If you look through the TTRPG books, Smasher's body now is a amalgam of an Alpha and Dragoon Cyborg body.
@LayedBackGamers Жыл бұрын
I do not believe that and that wasn't what I was trying to insinuate. My apologies for not being more clear in the video, but I did say during that portion that the DaiOni armor wasn't what Smasher was normally wearing. It was a new appearance specific to the Blackhand battle that no one would be able to recognize. That power armor is practically a mech so it would be extremely unreasonable to wear it too often, and since it was Keis project it's research died with him
@tomcascaddan8319 Жыл бұрын
@@LayedBackGamers my misunderstanding then. It's still a great video.
@LayedBackGamers Жыл бұрын
@@tomcascaddan8319 It was on me, I should've talked about the rest of his Conversions a bit more. I had only really mentioned the Dai Oni and Elvis. Thanks for watching choom!
@LatinaCreamQueen4 ай бұрын
After watching Panam get replaced with Adam Smasher in the Basilisk scene, I can no longer take him seriously...
@tenayabc1552 Жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Just now giving the game a chance !
@Gery277 Жыл бұрын
i don't really comment but I have to say this was a great vid bro
@LayedBackGamers Жыл бұрын
Thankful that you're still enjoying the content choom! I hope you're doing well and always feel free to let me know any characters, stories, etc you'd like to see next!
@Gery277 Жыл бұрын
Of course, I will if I have any ideas! Thank you for the content!@@LayedBackGamers
@AnotherDred Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, thank you.
@ronnithecyberwitch8027 Жыл бұрын
Adam smasher a legend? My 17 old cousin just nailed his ass to the wall
@nitroesp Жыл бұрын
What the ost in back? at 12:04
@AveChristusRex789 Жыл бұрын
It’s from the Phantom Liberty OST Edit: it’s called “just another weapon”
@nitroesp Жыл бұрын
@@AveChristusRex789 thank you I found it
@AveChristusRex789 Жыл бұрын
@@nitroesp 👍
@fujicrew170 Жыл бұрын
13:19
@GikamesShadow Жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing up the whole Cyberpsycho Theory nonsense. I am not sure where its coming from but its been so annoying to see how people blatantly disregard any type of wordbuilding to the point of even saying stuff like "Maelstrom has no cyberpsychos" or "Its all a lie by the government in the world of Cyberpunk to take out people they dont like". Not only do these theories dont make sense but as I said they disregard SO MUCH lore there is for this world its honestly insane. Great video man, keep it up.
@mattb6616 Жыл бұрын
people who say that cyberpsychosis is this real, magical unique thing are ignoring the lore more than the others. just read the sourcebooks yourself. "cyberpsychosis" is just an easy shorthand for any dissociative and psychopathic mental illness that comes from a deficit in Humanity. You can lose Humanity in a lot of ways. You can just be born without very much of it, you can lose it from being a witness to or participant in traumatic events, OR you can lose it from installing unnecessary cyberware and voluntarily cutting your eyes out and arms off to stick 400x cameras and monowires and popup rocket launchers in them.
@RagingRobotz Жыл бұрын
For Rebecca 😢
@BartmossInfinity Жыл бұрын
She deserve that sorry
@RagingRobotz Жыл бұрын
@@BartmossInfinity I'm willing to hear why u think Rebecca deserves to die??? But I think you might be confused. What actions are you referring to where she deserves to die?
@BartmossInfinity Жыл бұрын
@@RagingRobotz i just love Adam Smasher and antagonist in general
@RagingRobotz Жыл бұрын
@@BartmossInfinity fair enough u can't have a great story without a great villain I'll give you that. But r u a fan of true love which is what Rebecca was she truly loved David even tho he never even payed any attention to her and in the end she was willing to sacrifice her life for even the smallest chance of saving David
@logangurt2667 Жыл бұрын
HAHAHA she got smushed
@squigglesmcjr199 Жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to Thompson after the Holocaust?
@mattb6616 Жыл бұрын
Thompson would be a great topic to get into. He's one of my fav conspiracies in the setting. Allegedly a Media, but when you look at it all together... Thompson''s the sole witness to Alt getting kidnapped, got Johnny involved who got the others involved, was at the AHQ disaster and recorded the whole thing but the tape never got out (so who was he taping for?), admits to being military trained and being in the 4th Corporate War, is generally the most obvious Militech plant you've ever seen (he's literally wearing camouflage and has a Marine high and tight in the 2020 sourcebook art), and on top of everything else, the RED sourcebook confirms Thompson is a fake name.
@squigglesmcjr199 Жыл бұрын
@@mattb6616 right
@zerotodona1495 Жыл бұрын
@@mattb6616so you’re saying he’s… a reptile? From alpha centuri?!
@ginnungagaplemniscates1405 Жыл бұрын
Love Ol' Smasher. For such an iconic figure, there is surprisingly little lore about him. But maybe being left wanting more isn't such a bad thing.
@bobbywasabii4108 Жыл бұрын
I could’ve sworn i saw a video of another adam smasher video but the video click bait was Adam smasher from the source book
@LayedBackGamers Жыл бұрын
My previous thumbnail was Smasher from the sourcebook but I swapped it due to a lower CTR than normal. Unfortunately since I really like the TTRPG artworks.
@JohnnySilverwrench Жыл бұрын
Wheres Elvis Smasher??!!
@DonnyG02 Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥
@chiapets2594 Жыл бұрын
So i smashed the smasher with a hammer smash and fist
@ixiahj Жыл бұрын
In 2077, is Smasher's appearance the Dai Oni armor? Because if it is, its weak. People wearing exo suits are stronger.
@LayedBackGamers Жыл бұрын
He is wearing a heavily modified Dragoon frame in 2077. It's assumed that support for the DaiOni kit ended with Kei Arasaka, and Mike pondsmith has said his new dragoon set is superior. Though it's obvious he has different "loadouts" for the Dragoon. Such as the one he used vs David Martinez. I consider his appearance in Edgerunners to be his peak. Extremely fast, somewhat agile even, and a hard hitter. A big difference to the clunkiness in 2077
@mattb6616 Жыл бұрын
Smasher only ever appears in the Dragoon that LBG mentions in 2077 and the NovaTech Samson that he's in during the flashbacks. The DaiOni is like the size of a truck, it's basically a full on mecha.
@zerotodona1495 Жыл бұрын
@@mattb6616remember, the game has limits as well as buildings. Hence the smaller frame.
@barlitosantana9708 Жыл бұрын
minor detail but shaitan is the english word for satan in arabic
@datthebigboss4532 Жыл бұрын
The NC (BABAYAGA)
@revan6289 Жыл бұрын
How's it hanging chooms 😏🤘🤘🤘
@danielhogan62552 ай бұрын
it does not hang.. Its bolted on.
@SoranotRoxas Жыл бұрын
*The man, the myth, the legend* 🙌... referring to Layedback, not Smasher. That guy's an A-hole 😂
@JohnnySilverwrench Жыл бұрын
The real legend besides layedback is well Blueeyes that man pays a shit load of eddies for you to attack arasaka, getting Somi to the moon, and you to the crystal palace! Makes me wonder who he is even tho I already have my suspensions!
@AJGundam Жыл бұрын
Smasher did nothing wrong Business is business
@LayedBackGamers Жыл бұрын
Cyberpunk version of Griffith
@ravanpee1325 Жыл бұрын
Morgan Blackhand with the nuke is a bigger crook and war criminal than Smasher could ever be
@BartmossInfinity Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@alexhulea2735 Жыл бұрын
i'm starting to think the bomb was detonated by someone else before it's appointed time. let's assume that the clip in the video game of the bomb being put into an elevator was what morgan did. he was on the roof getting ready to leave knowing he still had time, thinking he had more than 2 minutes. and yet the bomb goes boom way before that time.
@ravanpee1325 Жыл бұрын
@@alexhulea2735It's no matter, because many innocent people in Night City were killed in the process...therefore the guy is even worse than Smasher
@JohnnySilverwrench Жыл бұрын
It was called the night city Holocaust for a reason. But, in war collateral damage is to be expected! J.s.
@danielhogan62552 ай бұрын
@@alexhulea2735 yeah....the player team find out yorinobu has been soulkilled since 2020. If you dont make the right rolls you die by that bomb going off with you in the building...always seemed weird that the squad finds that out, and shortly after, the bomb gets fucked with...
@Sebastian-tf2gu Жыл бұрын
hey dude, i got an advice for you but first i have to say, love your videos. your narration and research into these topics are top notch and i am very grateful. now, since we are on the topic of technology and AI, i meant to advise you to look into implementing AI yourself, to help you with the content creation...art, text, music... maybe there is something there, that can help you out.
@jeambeam317310 ай бұрын
That shit is for lazy ppl with shit content
@progeniesofthetoiletpaperh643311 ай бұрын
Man, I wish we can have an alternate story where Morgan perform a one sided ass whooping to Adam. With Morgan looking down at Adam in utter disgust, "All that upgrade just to be this weak? Pathetic"
@danielhogan62552 ай бұрын
think more clint eastwood in "the good the bad and the ugly" "do you feel lucky NOW, punk?"
@MrIrdatlan11 ай бұрын
all this lore for an easy boss, i had more trouble with some CyberPsychos than him.
@nota13xxsfbiagent327 ай бұрын
One thing i find annoying about smasher is the misconception that he’s an unbeatable god who cannot be damaged/beaten in any way. The fight with smasher in 2077 isn’t just to convey to us that V is a cracked up cyber demon given human shape (though that is true), but it’s also to show that a skilled and determined solo with nothing to lose is going to beat Smasher. Especially if they’re just more skilled than he is. Blackhand shows us that message clearly, and V is thematically and narratively their era’s blackhand. there’s always gonna be a bigger fish out there, V and Blackhand happen to be the biggest ones we’ve seen. Or more accurately the best ones.
@Spanners_the_Monkey Жыл бұрын
I don't take anything from 2077 as canon.
@nickjklol Жыл бұрын
Um..well, you should? Because it is? RED is like way superior to v3.0 and it ties in with 2077. Not sure why you wouldn't.
@nydip8131 Жыл бұрын
Tf you talking about bro 😭
@zerotodona1495 Жыл бұрын
2077 is cannon but we do not know what ending V has. It’s already stated by the creator Johnny’s memories can not be trusted.
@nickjklol Жыл бұрын
@@zerotodona1495 the canon ending is Path To Glory. Besides it being the most thematically appropriate ending - it's pretty much outright confirmed at this point. V, Lucy, and Song's endings all involve going to the moon. The sequel is codenamed Orion - after a constellation in space. The sequel's plot will likely entail who or what is behind the lunar black site, Blue Eyes, the Paralez's, and Project Oracle.