Layered Armor Vs Spaced Armor -- Crossout

[@MrStrielok]

Seriously What hurts me the most about crossout is that cool looking things just arent as Effective as the pile of Stuff glued into each other without taste...

[@MrGPlays]

^This

[@FalloutUrMum]

Personally I find beauty in the scambled together builds. Just make the car and place weapons then put the armor on in the most efficient way

[@Roachrancher]

So strongly agreed. One with commmon sense would craft something realistic, and expect to act as intended, and then there flies a fugly brick that makes your taste scream, tear down tank panels after each with little pewpew. But lets be stubborn on this one, and never give up crafting beauties. Lets be the good guys.

[@MrStrielok]

Crosser888 im tryin to keep it beautiful and deadly at the same time xddd

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

This is 40k Orks principle. More Gitz = Stronga

[@honroy1950]

imagine a 15 pound slab of metal traveling at 1/4 the speed of sound being stopped by a literal balloon

[@L2thelastdwarf]

*I.M.M* = Aka Inflatable Mammonths Meta

[@rpek32]

made out of stalinum.

[@HateIncarnate]

I get what you are trying to say and I agree but the shells in this game are all HE so they would explode on contact. But still, it ruins the game😂

[@mangofactory.mp4]

And packed layers of armor just get absolutely destroyed by the same projectile

[@ahumanwhomshallnotbenamed9404]

You joke about it, but it's true. 🤣 HE shells tend to have very sensitive fuses and something as weak as 0.1mm of aluminium can set it off, now if it was any type of AP shell, solid shots, APHE, APDS, HEAT, whatever, that's a different story, all the cannons in Crossout I assume are HE shells. Also, it's good to see another fellow Kerbalnaut. o7

[@Aetius_of_Astora]

I think actual armour needs improving, rather than the other stuff needing nerfing, steppenwolf armour is very heavy, but gets shredded by machineguns despite being off a tank. I think each faction should have a resistance, lunatics get contact resistance, nomads get explosive resistance, scavs get bullet resistance, the prestige factions get upgraded resistances, i mean you'd think that dawn armour would be energy resistant being it was taken from spacecraft that reflect massive amounts of heat and radiation

[@Will2DoesStuff]

Aetius of Astora this is a much better idea. Considering most people die of gas gen popping, giving all ammo penetration is insane.

[@satan7350]

I agree with this statement

[@sphygo]

This would actually be really cool and encourage people to use different armor types when building

[@MrGPlays]

This is a really good idea.

[@xgonozal8_772]

I think that the Steppenwulf Armor should be Heavier (1000 structure and 2200kg weight)and only able to penetrate with cannons

[@bubume8277]

In my opinion: Decors should not affect cannon shells at all, shells should go right thru Decors like it is nothing and explode on the real parts. Heavy armor should not let go any damage thru. Like: You have 5 layers of heavy armor. Shell hits firts layer and everything around this layer still takes damage in radius, BUT nothing that is behind this layer. (it is a lot harder to do it in game then what they use now. Instead of using "radius" they should use "ray" or something like this, that can travels and stop on obiect ,instead of just creating a ball that cover some space. Sorry if i am wrong, maybe they use something else, i don't know.)

[@MrGPlays]

This is what I was thinking however that could be abused too.

[@serbanandrei7532]

I was thinking the exact same thing for a long time

[@Dracomandriuthus]

@@MrGPlays they could look at From The Depths explosive system

[@nunull6427]

*balance opinion* Heavy armor should be resistant to bullets but weigh even more(seriously, a 5-10%weight or even power-score increase would help balance this) Decor should allow bullets through; cannons AoE will still tear through them and with the weight increase of heavy armor will require your build takes into account which type of combat your craft can focus on.

[@IloveJellow]

before there was radius there was ray.. And people hated RAY! because people would just stack armor after armor on places... The only thing that still uses ray damage scale is the Goliath track so that would be your example for all heavy armor.

[@DangStank]

There is already an ammo that shreds through spaced armor. It’s called anything that shoots quickly

[@crosshairz5304]

The snowball triple rocket gun thing is super good against spaced armour. Or triple wasps

[@ckdunahee4478]

Triple joules

[@iamboringvideos6832]

Triple whirls

[@burningsamrai3681]

@@crosshairz5304 Maybe Triple Millers.

[@maybe4549]

So you either run machineguns APCs or hypercannon fragmented monsters?

[@XPClipzzz]

I agree g, stuff like wire parts and decor and canvas stuff shouldn’t even count, they should just rip through the build, it’s like shooting a cannon shell at a car and the shell exploding on the window

[@Dracomandriuthus]

Actually, HEAT shells would explode on the window- They just send a stream of superheated copper through said window

[@XPClipzzz]

Dare lIlI but you know what I mean right, the physics in this game are not the best

[@mellowfellowme]

@TeAbAg kid go to world of tanks or something like that, cannons should be basic like other guns so that they don’t become the main focus of the game.

[@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline]

@@mellowfellowme Arhem. War Thunder * Corrected you there.

[@aurumix4040]

Mr. G: "Cannons need armor piercing ammo" Executioner: "Am I just a joke to you?"

[@johnsmith-fy8jo]

scorpion: am I a complete joke?

[@satan7350]

how about we just make decor not count as a piece of armor

[@mellowfellowme]

Why

[@Pe6De]

Good idea, there's no reason for decorations to block heavy shells. They should get ripped apart easily.

[@Licmebro]

@***** ********i lol what?

[@mellowfellowme]

@***** ********i exactly

[@Sujamma_Enjoyer]

@@mellowfellowme so people like you can learn to build something other than a landfill on legs

[@YEAHKINDA]

They should make special fragmentation and HEAT shell ammo items, these items severely limit the number of shots you have to work with compared to ammo box spam, but the choice of supporting your team with HE shells against heavy builds or even fragmentation for more penetrating fragments with low damage but a larger internal area of effect. It'd only affect cannons and can be bound to other cannons, taking 1 energy per separate shell rack. They'd hold like 20 shots when it comes to the fat man and executioner as a sort of middle ground ammo count and you can only link 1 per cannon. That'd be an amazing concept to see happen cause it adds diversity

[@YEAHKINDA]

Holy heccing hecc I got 3 likes and Mr G saw this I feel extremely special now

[@driverjamescopeland]

Why not just run Piercers, or Caucuses, or whatever else has penetrating buff? When you lose your innovation, you've just become a whiny gamer

[@YEAHKINDA]

@@driverjamescopeland well last time I checked it out, neither of those are effective at longer range. I realise that the Executioner 88mm has the armor piercing effect, but it is one weapon with one shell type. Different shell types add variation. Literally all I was saying. It's a pitched idea that'll never reach the real game either because of balance reasons or because it wasn't seen. I hoped to provide my personal desire for an item in the game, not to say "Look at me my idea needs to be seen and added to the game." It's called a concept.

[@driverjamescopeland]

Ekoh TheTaur It could be an idea for fusion buff.

[@mellowfellowme]

I think u would like war thunder or world of tanks better, crossout shouldn’t be this complicated

[@mrspliffdoctor4807]

"I just don't want christmascards to be the best armor in the game" haha sad but true and it's funny cus it's true

[@KakkoiSan]

I just can't play with a functional build, it has to look beautiful too. So, spaced armouring isn't my thing 😁

[@sphygo]

Same, and it makes canons hurt so much

[@tytusglab1621]

@@sphygo then make sure you don't get hit

[@PODsyndrome]

Pretty much my deal. Spend so much time making a cool light tank build with hidden weapons just to see it turn to a shrapnel fireworks display at the first shell.

[@HateIncarnate]

I agree

[@mellowfellowme]

You guys must suck at building, I can bet none of you have a kd over 1

[@Guzy_B]

Give this video a huge shoutout, so it gets to the devs. I want to build vehicles, not "spaced" piles of rubbish.

[@driverjamescopeland]

If it makes you feel any better, nearly all next-generation tanks have blast mitigation panels hanging off of them.

[@somedudeok1451]

But these panels are not made of balloons.

[@jammygamer8961]

@@somedudeok1451 and they dont stop kintec weapons

[@Vibration_Crew]

I would like to see sloped armour & armour angling used correctly so rounds fired at it would deflect like how real armour works. That way they could then implement different round types for all weapons to compensate. Tho new maps are my main wish ;)

[@tytusglab1621]

you know what would happen then, wedge builds would become basically invincible...

[@mellowfellowme]

Go to war thunder

[@linc1641]

go to world of tanks lmao

[@ravensvisage]

Like if you are turned at a angle doest do as much damage as it would do head on?

[@e25dainka]

@@linc1641 “lmao”💀

[@Will2DoesStuff]

How is penetrating ammo going to make this any better? All that means is spaced armour will need to be put further out on the build! Making light decor even better! I think decor should allow all rounds through plus be heavy, and armour should have a blast damping effect, instead of a radius of damage with no relationship to what has already been destroyed, each piece of armour destroyed reduces the damage the next piece receives, distance should have nothing to do with it. As long as distance affects damage done spaced armour will always work best.

[@MrGPlays]

Not a bad idea. I would just like Gaijin to think on this.

[@Will2DoesStuff]

Mr. G fair point it is clear something needs to change.

[@sphygo]

For armor penetration, it would have to be "penetrates up to 100 pts of armor before detonating" rather than "penetrates 2 meters of armor before detonating" so that low hp decor would get destroyed and the shell keeps going before it explodes. That would also affect using lunatic structure as spaced armor. Otherwise just having decor be passthrough would switch spaced armor from decor to lunatic. Still good, but won't completely solve it

[@serbanandrei7532]

That would be the best thing ever

[@MrGPlays]

Good call.

[@znake0092]

i love the sad music in the background it really represents the message

[@Psiberzerker]

The problem with the fluffy builds is they have a massive hit-box, so they can take more hits, because they will. A small compact build (I've got one based on the Duster) is going to get missed a lot, especially at long range where MGs, and Auto-cannons start to spread.

[@chunkiermango7982]

AC's dont spread if you tap fire

[@Free_Krazy]

This is why I like playing at a lower PS where traditional armor is more common and effective than spaced armor.

[@SlippyLegJones]

My problem with spaced armour is that MGs can pop off half your build with a few bullets, yeah if you use layered armour that's a near guarantee of cab damage and weapon damage, but at least it stays together and has no specific weak point. These giant space builds can lose half their armour if they get hit by a mandrake. Or if a Scorpion gets a lucky frame shot the thing will disappear. You are only blocking face damage like cannons, missiles, or melee. It's better for 1 on 1 but won't last as long if it comes down to a 1v4 (which isn't a realistic situation tbh).

[@luisxavier1349]

this feels like crossout ASMR

[@MrGPlays]

whispers in Crossout*

[@old-moose]

Old but interesting. My complaint is that I work hard to make my ride hard to see and the game puts a red arrow over my head saying "Shoot Here!" It bugs me when I kill someone I don't see and only shot just below a red arrow. It feels un sporting.

[@DirkyDirk]

This is a great video concept, there is much to what you say, I do disagree. I love that Crossout is ugly and that it helps to have something chewed up looking over a neat looking tank - to me that's a totally other game. You can definitely have beautiful builds, decor can look amazing, except if you're doing a tsunami-spider build.

[@sanstheskeleton679]

Having decor is fine What's not fine is that same decor can block almost any shot thrown at it

[@mellowfellowme]

@Sans the Skeleton actually it’s more fine to have the record tank a shot instead of the shot just ignoring it, like if you struggle against spaced armor just use another meta

[@mellowfellowme]

Decor*

[@Sujamma_Enjoyer]

@@mellowfellowme imagine simping over spaced armor

[@morry1076]

Those are the best, most scientific drawings I have ever seen on the interwebs Mr G....consider me fully briefed on the different armour types now :D

[@oblio7732]

The sethioz horn 😂 i hate It too

[@makebritaingreatagain2613]

This guy is spitting straight facts.

[@aerincollins1175]

Give me 20 minutes. I'm busy turning lmao 🤷‍♀️ 😂

[@drunkenpotato8808]

It’s at a point where I just call all cannon builds “ anti tank builds “ considering if ur build resembles any sort of tank or car or what ever it’s just ripped apart

[@oliverhardy9464]

Yeah, cannons are broken. If you don't have many parts and are able to use a cannon, use it.

[@themidnightbanshee5927]

why arent sttepenwolf parts (which have the description that they are re used from tanks and APCs) given resistance to projectile type damage i mean ever heard the expression tank a hit

[@suaveystyles9292]

Lmao!!! Love the editor... Yur Nuthin 2 Me loves this game as well, not the people so much but hey we aren't perfect!!! Keep up the great work brother...

[@leoritchie9635]

Spaced armor should be good against cannons but they should try make it weaker to other weapon types.

[@dennisseidel5854]

Each projectile should cause additional damage on impact and only after that causes damage will explode, putting the explosion behind the decoration

[@somedudeok1451]

Just remove hitboxes from deco items.

[@MansMan42069]

I wonder if the number of weld points should factor into how much an item can benefit from the structure/cabin/frame it's attached to.

[@MrGPlays]

Oh it does

[@MansMan42069]

@@MrGPlays Oh! Really? So a piece that has more contact points can take more damage?

[@MrGPlays]

No

[@MansMan42069]

@@MrGPlays Ah I'm confused 😅

[@MrGPlays]

It's better to have parts welded to more than one part as you're less likely to lose them that way

[@XevianLight]

How it should work is if a cannon shell hits a piece and would destroy it without dealing the full damage of the shell possible, it should penetrate that piece and only explode once a critical damage has been dealt.

[@SpudyGun]

If all cannon rounds passed through 30 points worth of armour (or 2m after first contact if 30 points have not yet been stripped ) before they explode then space armour would be stripped away but the shell would not go through layered armour (being more then 30 durability) exploding on the first layer of armour.

[@dabj9546]

They should just add the overpen mechanic so shells don't arm on a flag or something

[@lukasart0]

Ty for the backgroud music. First channel using classical music. I enjoyed your video.

[@MrGPlays]

I use it often, glad you enjoyed it

[@lukasart0]

Mr. G

[@johncheiky7196]

Love your videos and help just wondering if you have advice of what to buy next weapon wise can’t decide if I want a another elephant cannon or autocann like the whirl or something else I’ve been mixing up most weapons on my builds cause I don’t have multiple of the same weapons

[@berniegran4785]

Crossout doesn't have armor, it have metal parts that do t act like armor , only tracks and plows act like armor. There is armor penetration , 88s, tsunami's are AP-HE, they blowup after the impact damaging internal parts. However crossout doesn't have internal parts like warthunder, so they are not that usefully. Spaced armorial crossout work just like real life , you don't need strong steel for spaced armor , you just need metal plates that triggers the fuses of shells blowing up away from vital areas.

[@mellowfellowme]

@Bernie Gran, scorpions are also a weapon that does penetrative damage (not sure about tsunami tho) and there are no important internal things for them to hit like genes and ammo packs

[@ravensvisage]

That is why u run a hybrid well at lower ps (4k-6k that is primarily what I run in) u have ur soild armor in ur front to absorb basic hits and run light spaced on the sides and maby on the back (use buggy to sketon it and build on it) but as you are going to for a fight kinda fish tail it (so more stearing in the back) so that way untill you know what they are running u can make a snap dession if it is a cannon let it hit your sides and if it not let ur soild protect u as you close the distance(if u run shotty if not still works) calling it hammer heading (astectic and functional

[@KenGames45]

I know about spaced armor, so I just equipped two full auto grenade launchers and some coolers. This combo keeps hitting them with grenades till they have no armor left.

[@eldrenofthemist2492]

Catapults are so awesome against Space armor or any armor really. XD "Stay out of the Flame Mr. G." XD

[@KurNorock]

One solution would be to make the armor act like actual freakin armor.

[@mellowfellowme]

@Kur Norock what are you suggesting, really the armor is pretty good with how spaced armor prevents explosion radius, it only makes sense

[@KurNorock]

@@mellowfellowme no it doesn't make sense because that isn't how explosions work and it isn't how cannon shells, missiles, or rockets work either. 1. Exploding don't have a set blast radius regardless of the material in encounters. Meaning if you have an explosion with an effective blast radius of 10ft, that explosion isn't going to affect you if you are standing behind 9ft of armor. Explosions don't penetrate armor. Explosions either damage/destroy armor, or the armor blocks the explosion. Setting off a grenade on a tank will do nothing to the tank or the people inside. Even though a grenade can kill you from 10ft away, and a tanks armor might only be 2ft thick, the grenades explosion will not magically penetrate the armor to kill the people inside, or cause damage to the engine or whatever. 2. Cannon shells do damage by concussive force. They are heavy projectiles that pierce armor because of their speed. Some have specialized explosives that aid in penetration by pushing a molten core store into the armor, but that is only after they have impacted and embedded themselves in thick armor. And that explosion is not the same as a bomb. It is contained and directed. Cannon shells would blow right through thin materials like car doors and Santa Claus signs as if they weren't there. And those things would certainly not set off the explosive charges. So spaced armor would be useless. The most effective armor would be thick armor. And if you don't have thick armor, many layers of thinner armor stacked up to be as thick as possible is your next best bet. Think of it like paper. You can easily poke your finger through a single sheet of paper. If you had 20 sheets of paper all spaced an inch apart, you could probably still poke through all of them with your finger easily. But if you stack all 20 together and try to poke through, it will be much more difficult. 3. It is pretty much the same story with rockets and missiles. Even if rockets are designed to explode on contact, they still wouldn't explode from hitting a thin car door or neon sign because that's isn't enough of an impact to set it off. Weapons manufacturers specifically do not want their rockets to explode just because they hit a random bird or a tree branch or something like that. Much like the cannon wheels, the tickets and missiles are designed to penetrate as deeply as they can before they explode, for maximum damage. No matter how you look at it, spaced armor makes no sense. If it did, militaries around the world would be using it. But they aren't.

[@mellowfellowme]

@Kur Norock wow I can’t believe I read that whole thing yikes, anyway I gotta say I like you argument it’s good if we are talking about scorpion and maybe executioner but your argument fails to remember that most of crossouts missiles and cannon shells are High Explosive, so realistically they would explode when coming into contact with things like the mammoth balloon and the Santa sign and the snowman, also in gajin’s defense there is a lot of Aron that allows damage to pass through so that is why the explosion radius is so effective

[@mellowfellowme]

*armor

[@KurNorock]

@@mellowfellowme Ok man, you are making arguments form a position of complete ignorance. "High explosive" does not mean "it sets off easier". The term "high explosives" refers to reactions which detonate, or burn and create a shockwave, which is nothing more than pressure waves that travel faster than the speed of sound. As opposed to low explosives, like Black powder, which burn and create pressure waves that are at or below the speed of sound. The "trigger" on ANY ordinance that is designed to set off on contact usually takes several tons of pressure to activate. Far more pressure than if the missile impacted a car door or a balloon. Think about it. If the activation could be set off by a balloon, or a neon sign, then it would also be easily set off just be the acceleration of launching the missile, or the wind resistance while the missile is flying at mach 4, or by accident if the soldier loading the missile bumps into it. I have no idea what your last statement is supposed to mean so I can't comment on it.

[@berniegran4785]

Mr. G , judging by this video , you are the kind player that doesn't know how to use tracks and plows as armor . You rush to close range with long range cannons , you don't angle your vehicle so the enemy can only hit you on plows and tracks , you expose your weak areas in close range and die with your plow and tracks intact.

[@deadright3118]

Increased difference between the heavy cab&armor and the light cab&armor

[@Lon6shot]

Add a % buff to every clip/weld point so that more weld points = better armor

[@danielbrodovshchuk3799]

with different types of ammo spaced armor will be even better, because layered armor will be blown up from the inside, taking more damage

[@nobeldnoble7048]

Usefull vid...but the music....sounds sad...nice one mrG......thanks again

[@lastofmygeneration]

I came for armor tips... I stayed for moonlight sonata.

[@tenorsax6896]

One of the many reasons crossout needs a major rework... Pay to win armor should never be a thing. I might also add that the pay to win also extends to relics and special cabs etc... That and the very poor balancing the devs have done (or lack of any) is why the meta is so warped to strange and considerably abnormal builds/strats. In a well balanced and fare game there should be no blatantly god teer weapons/gear/armour. A setup should be mainly good because of player skill not player wealth. It is unfortunate to see such potential be stifled by poor development.

[@GregorianMG]

Could you explain me with "Pay to win" armor? How so?

[@tenorsax6896]

@@GregorianMG because the neon sant, tire stack, and Christmas tree etc... Decor parts are all things you have to buy to aquire (or spend way more then reasonable on the market). And for reasons mr. G explained, and that i can rehash if you want, are pretty broken. That is why they are pay to win armour.

[@GregorianMG]

@@tenorsax6896 Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation!

[@tenorsax6896]

@@GregorianMG no problem 😊

[@mellowfellowme]

@Alex Perron wrong it’s not pay to win it’s pay to progress, pay to make life easier, you can grind for anything really, also this “pay to win armor” is only ever good against cannons (just be more accurate with cannon shots) every other weapon can pretty much ignore spaced armor

[@EvoSuFFr]

Yes! to Weapons and ammunition modifications 🤘🤘🤘 Haa! Love playing destructive games to classical music, nice pick

[@HateIncarnate]

I actually hate when games get a "META" it honestly sucks all the fun out of a game. When everyone is running the same God damn thing the game just becomes unfun. . .

[@mellowfellowme]

@The SpunkMaster, metas are great, they show a communities effort to be the best and do the best, if you have a problem with a meta then find another meta to counter it

[@HateIncarnate]

@@mellowfellowme I think what shows community is the idea of everyone having there own unique cars and vehicles. I run double retcher with small tracks. How many times a day do you see my build? Probably not a lot. Everyone is running 2 tsunamis with spaced armor, all junkbow/fafnirs and melee or sparkister builds. What counters that type of stuff? I know have haven't found a counter besides shooting at them so.

[@mellowfellowme]

@The SpunkMaster see your idea vs my idea of a good community is a regular community vs a competitive community (respectfully) and in a game like crossout it shouldn’t pay of to have a cool flashy build if it doesn’t work. Also I think I see why you are mad, you ain’t gunna be hitting dubs with hardened teach fetcher it’s not good, to counter spaced armor use anything but cannons, to combat wedges get good cannons or make a better wedge simple

[@mellowfellowme]

My bad I meant small tracks, which is probably worse than hardened

[@HateIncarnate]

@@mellowfellowme my build works great. Everyone plays the same builds. It's not creative. I doubt that a neon Santa sign is stopping any type of cannon shell which doesn't make much sense

[@Richthofen100]

Moonlight sonata..... Good choice

[@MrGPlays]

Plus one for knowing your classical music

[@dragonwithamonocle]

I was so surprised to hear Moonlight Sonata, it's one of my favorites. Such a relaxing tune that really brings peace to the soul. Perfect way to balance the video.

[@bruhbrehii]

ok two things. one: what song is that two: this really has me thinking... the rail-splitter gun... it can pernitrate multiple layers of armor... most meta-tanks use this spaced armor but that holds little to no defense against a rail splitter... the porcupine fuel barrels can strip off armor like **snap** that... pair a minigun with a tsunami or a that one cannon that looks like a mammoth but has two barrels... flamethrowers or anything with high dps can almost instakill something like that... if your vehicle is fast enough it can escape and run circles around any tanky build such as the usual spider... then if they can damage the spider-tank from the back and snap off it's armoring and guns then that's a win right there... now the accursed shotgun wedges. what weapons can deal with them? explosive lances duh, but what about arena mode? I'm thinking an aurora minigun and a reaper minigun paired with yet again a scorpion... it does not need to be fast. just let the enemy come to you, use the spaced armor strategy against them or use fuse drones or grenade drones, if the targets are split up they will certainly have a hard time going after you and the drones... now another technique I thought about is this: humpback cabin, fastest engine, spaced armor around every side including the front, aroura minigun rail-splitter and reaper minigun... the reaper deals the damage while the aurora heats up the average shotgun wedge user's shotguns and the rail-splitter shoots when they turn towards you... their first initial shot will be their undoing as they will just merely make a hole for us to shoot out of through the spaced armor... this build may also be a hover. but what about hover meta's with spaced armor? simple: averters and rail-splitters I truly and wholeheartedly believe these weapons are the cure-all to any meta plague. i am also contemplating if an aroura or that one missiles launcher would be best against the hovercraft.

[@RashaKahn]

Maybe soften the cabin and make them immune to explosive damage so they would have to fully protect it.

[@mellowfellowme]

Why would they ever do that

[@seanwarren9357]

From the depths does it right, spaced armor has a place, but it's not a meme in FTD. Definitely need multi ammo types though, like heat, and hesh, rails, thump and squash(hollow point) and such can penetrate armor, while layered armor and explosive reactive armor shrugs off high explosive rounds... Then there's frag and flack... You actually composed your rounds, and I could see that work in this where ammo is actually limited enough that it would be interesting to specialize, or make more general purpose warheads...

[@mellowfellowme]

Yeah I’m seeing less of a problem with how crossouts armor works and more of a problem with strategies and use of weaponry. Don’t push with cannons and you won’t get shot, don’t expect tracks to help you pull out of a situation when you go right into the battlefield

[@MrGPlays]

Solid advice

[@MrNiceGuyz33]

Wasnt sure about those parts but thanks for taking time To confirm all that 😜 i'll try to find the week spot now. 👍

[@tadatada5]

Good video, but... You all wrong with homogenous armor. layered armor is far more efective vs homogenous. and all modern tanks have layered armor. another thing: 1- game reality is diferent from ours - imagine moving batalion with all those huge boxes somwere - it will take whole highway. its not posible to place them on railway 2- for big vehicles you need bigger boxes - thay are more expensive 3- repairs and maintenance. for modern tank to change engine you need special maintenace truck . but for huge croosout vehicles you will need huge maintenance vehicle - its more expensive and complicated. 4- Bridges. restricted by height, restricted by wide. they cannot just be so big to fullfill fantasies of crossout players. othervise it will be too costly make bridge for tank to cross it. 5- reliabily - maintenace of military vehicles is biggest part of their life. here we just click few buttons and - next battle is ready. reality is that you need alot of time for repairs. and complicated construction can be nightmare to repair.

[@BounceHub]

Spaced armour shouldn’t be effective at all definitely a thing they should sort out

[@mellowfellowme]

@BounceHub why tho

[@Caffeinated_Kitsune]

Ah, the hell with spaced armor. I've made layered armor builds that can hold their own in a scrap, so I'll stick with making builds that sport both form AND function.

[@mellowfellowme]

@Warren Pond lll you do better because you probably have a better gameplay strategy that lets you preform well without getting flanked

[@Ranzoe813]

Its worth noting that in certain situations a layered bld can in fact hold up...spaced armor really only is effective against cannons...SOO energy weapons, machine guns, shotguns, autocannons, any rapid fire weapon WILL shred through your spaced armor @ a relative equal speed of that of a layered bld. blueprinted correctly...also blueprints that utilizes wedge mechanics such as shotguns will be much more effective using horizontal stacked armor anyway as the bld itself needs to maintain a certain profile...i really imo, the hover guy seems to benefit the most out of this...i have a bunch of layered tanks that literally tank an entire match upon a lose will still be the last bld...+ im sorry the vehicle i kill my opponent with must look badass...i prioritize only function over form y'all keep that floating scrap heep...

[@Caffeinated_Kitsune]

@@mellowfellowme True; after all, no matter what you're driving, battlefield awareness will forever remain key to a good match. 😁

[@Caffeinated_Kitsune]

@@Ranzoe813 Taking into consideration that the comment you've responded to was posted over a year ago, needless to say I've learned more than a few tricks since then. However, that doesn't mean we all have to drive bricks, right? 😆

[@leoritchie9635]

Decor items should be able to just pop off to small machine gun fire then bring in cannons

[@andersongeorge7591]

Love your vids I really like and want this GAME!!! But my question is (if I ever get the game) Where would I place canons on an all Canon build? And my second question is. Is an all Canon build good?

[@Rantingcancer]

They should buff the executioner because that’s it’s job to go through spaced armor but as for other cannons they should remain the same because to many people use cannons and any machine gun,auto cannon,and rockets to some extent

[@breadlord6084]

The non rotating cannons often penetrate multiple layers of armor so i think this information is a bit outdated

[@gschwingamejumper3682]

light armor ik will be overused by hovers so it will melt like butter with less shots required

[@spacevaporeonamvs3171]

New plauge is shotgun ramped shaped cars everywhere lol

[@mrajay194]

Gaijin didn't do a very good job with how armor/durability works in this game.

[@MrHat556]

You give cannons penetration and the whole game will be even more cannon centric then it is. Don’t need more tsunamis and mammoths on the field than we got now.

[@MrGPlays]

Ok fair point, but let's consider an armor rework then, or at least a look at decor items.

[@MrHat556]

Mr. G I completely agree that the theme of armor has changed in a negative way, don’t think the devs ever envisioned for decor to be be used heavily as armor. But making cannons more potent towards space armor will undoubtedly worsen the use of compact armor. If they made explosions less penetrative and more surface area like, I could see them doing something else to decor. But you gotta wonder: There has to be a reason why hover builds have been so heavily adjusted by players to be viable, from the 5 hover set ups, to the vertical design, to the decor spaced armor situation. In a normal 4 hover set up with exposed hovers, they just aren’t good enough.

[@somedudeok1451]

Just remove hitboxes from deco items. Ez fix.

[@travispaskiewicz2663]

Yeah, spaced armor looks dumb and kind of breaks the game. I tried to think of ways for them to fix it, but your idea of making decor items able to be shot through is pretty good. I thought increasing cannon explosion radius would be a good fix, but then there's the question of rebalancing how much damage a shell does on impact, versus how much of it's damage is done in an area. But that would be a mess. Because if you put too much emphasis on splash damage, you won't be able to strip weapons. Too much emphasis on direct damage, and it just makes spaced armor better. I think they Should just have piercing innate on cannons. Like they each cannon shot has 30-40 points to deal damage to parts, and if it breaks and there's still pierce damage, it goes through to the next part, then the next, etc... till it's pierce damage runs out, then it explodes for 50-60 damage to all parts in a one foot radius.

[@satan7350]

ever seen the gladiator? it's a sideways spider tank that uses a Goliath as a shield. I call it gladiator, it isn't really named that

[@professional1298]

I try to find a balance between what looks good and whats usable

[@_w_KING_w_]

Decor now dont work, him dont stop cannon whizbang.

[@Jan_372]

Now, what if the devs added Structural integrity and realistic drivetrain placement?

[@michaelhunschag2430]

they should make decor items phantom, you can see them but have no Hit box and let every shot pass

[@GameEr445]

Imaginary cannons have different ammo like AP or heat APHE

[@apollo4294]

This wasnt a really even test. He had one layered armor build while he had three spaced armor build. Also the spaced armor builds only have legs. There are no tracked spaced armor or legged layered armor

[@professional1298]

Im trying to find a balance between works well and looks nice

[@Knopantz]

Moonlight Sonata makes your gameplay even more tragic! I’m actually crying while watching this. 😜

[@MadNitr0]

I know I'm late to the party here but the 88s penetrate don't thay?

[@nayman2374]

In my language i would say that this video is "bos soz" which means "a lot of bla bla bla"

[@nayman2374]

Minimum useful information per minute

[@MrGPlays]

In my language I will reply, bla bla bla

[@MrGPlays]

Minimum useful reply per minute.

[@mellowfellowme]

@NAYMAN 23 I agree, just seems like a lot of unstructured complaints that can easily be fixed

[@hamm_bone_hobbies1302]

I hate this about Crossout G!! I can't do it! I refuse to put blanks everywhere. I still build my vehicle normal😁

[@kingamongmen7455]

That music makes me wanna jump off a bridge... hearing the banging and crashing of vehicles...

[@shank_s0uls595]

how is the song called that starts at about 3:40 ?

[@leprosysucks]

moonlight sonata by Beethoven

[@twopiece4729]

If there was ap shells layered armor would still sufer more

[@captainrutabeggacrossout8482]

Personally i think that spaced armour looks cool

[@frajlja4443]

Great vid g!

[@oliverhardy9464]

But cannons can go through anything then. They are meta. So people got creative to avoid cannon fire. It just shows how boosted cannons are compares to shotguns and machine guns who don't really stand any chance against boosted long range cannons.

[@JKLauderdale]

Crumple zones FTW!

[@TacoCat747]

What about melee vehicles?

[@John-uw2je]

Decor needs to be destroyed only when the parts they're attatched to are destroyed.

[@brycelupton]

Sucks they don't care

[@MikeDbean420]

Lol Mr g this game in my opinion, IS about making asysmetrical machines. U want tanks. The. Yes warthunder world of tanks lol This isn't even supposed to be super realistic...it's no simulator..it's just a fun game. No matter the build...u can have a random rng bot aiming for you the whole match or you can flip over driving to a spot..armor isn't the definitive point of this game... randomness and odd builds are. Love ur vids...and making these super spaced builds u need parts...how many non paying customers have 300+ parts lol

[@joshuaoverlord5327]

I still go for tanks builds vs umm that purple thing

[@mellowfellowme]

Purple thing could have easily been wedged and easily killed form underneath

[@mellowfellowme]

@joshuaoverlord hey u play ps4

[@Halwolf]

In conclusion... make cool tanks if you want just expect it to die quicker

[@rodgerbroadway4584]

Why don't they make armour with better durability? They can offset it with higher weight. All the armour is rather weak though.

[@marc-nemesisgaming858]

this is very relatable

[@SunBroSquad]

We dont want premium ammo though!

[@gschwingamejumper3682]

hey g bro its zen deztroyer im ur first comment tday luv ur vids im back on crossout but dont have the comp look forward to playing with you again i requested this vid a year and a half ago nice though keep it up tell baby g and miss g i said hi

[@MrGPlays]

Will be streaming in a few hours if you want to come by

[@gschwingamejumper3682]

@@MrGPlays i must un potato my dad first in order to obtain the potatotop Potato laptop

[@the_neo_crusader]

ELITE MUSIC CHOICE!

[@chunkblaster]

I actually don't see these examples you posted much anymore, what's way more common to me is using colossus tracks as armor. *ESPECIALLY in clan battles* . If you aren't a harvester cloak build you better have 4 colossus tracks armoring your monster wheels or mech legs.

[@mellowfellowme]

Colossus tracks