Layouts - House Shots vs PBA Tour/Sport -

Welcome back to the #RadicalRundown!
Today, Phil & Andrew discuss the differences between the layouts used on house shot patterns and the layouts used on tour/sport patterns.
Questions? Comments? Post them below!
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[@rebootnut]

Really love listening to Andrew. You can tell he really loves the science of the game.

[@jhonviel7381]

andrew is great. cant get enough radical content!

[@willjames6437]

One of my favorite videos on layouts on the internet.

[@02167631]

Andrew mentioned that low to medium rev rate player bowling on a house or league pattern will generally want a long pin up/stronger ball. Does this hold true when the lanes break down? With 5 players on each team/10 players bowling down 2 lanes, the lane will break down really fast for a right handed player. What do you suggest? Do we move boards or ball down? Player information: late 30's, 235 lb male. 16lb ball speed dominant (about 15.33 mph) with a tendency to muscle the ball low rev player accurate for a league bowler but not a pro. Falling into the "retired athlete turned bowler category."

[@Monk-Amani.]

Both?

[@dijigo1587]

Super useful information chaps. Thanks

[@peterthegreat5458]

My favorite all time bowler andrew anderson!

[@dennisbrinkley8613]

It was a pleasure meeting Andrew at the SABC Doubles Tournament in Tomball, Texas. I am a Rev dominant player. One of the primary concerns is hitting the pin deck light. Another concern is flat 10 issues. What coverstock, core type, and layout would you recommend? Ball track is another concern. Low Rev players tend to choose a ball track 6 - 10 boards. Alternative ball track is 16 - 19. What ball attributes and layout you would suggest for that middle lane track?

[@Monk-Amani.]

Love these guys.

[@nordattack]

GOLD! Thank you Andrew!

[@darinstrenzel3309]

does pearl vs solid or ball speed matter when deciding these things? I'm high tilt 16.5 degree, 14mph and 350 rpm. I love my brutal collision drilled at 35 x 3 5/8 x 30 but dislike my 3 D attack drilled the same way. I'm going to adjust surface but wondering if it would have been a better choice to have chose a different layout. It just hook stops when moving left.

[@joshhammonds7145]

Really liked this video!

[@rodneyshelby4371]

I'm using a pin down under the ring finger on a symmetrical ball on a house shot and averaging over 200 I'm trying to blend out the over-under I also took a 3,000 pad to the ball to blend the ball out better

[@iamshields.632]

Great vid! Having gone back and thinking about all the bowling balls I've liked most over the years they've all been symmetrical except one. Which would explain why that one ball sticks out in my mind as far as how it reacted on the lanes. I need to try more asymmetrical stuff I think

[@scottythompson940]

Cool video talk to tech bowling radical phil and Andrew

[@marke219]

Andrew and Phil are easy to listen to

[@thebigeasy8609]

Another eye opener. Bonu$ Pearl on the left side all day baby!

[@hfdsso14]

What would you say is a good layout for the new polyester bowling balls with performance cores?

[@itskyyuuuu]

Big radical fan I love my sally sasquatch!! Yes I name my bowling balls haha

[@machinethesun9243]

I name mine too!

[@earthwormjim7310]

Oils you also discuss any difference in drilling urethane vs reactive for tournament patterns, Nationals.

[@stevebotter9442]

Phil, what about layouts for lefties on house and tour?

[@enigmazero8624]

This was actually a bit surprising. I don’t really understand the concept of using sharper reacting balls on house shots. I find that they bounce too much off the dry and slid too far in the oil, making the cliff even worse. How do you avoid this?

[@snikab]

Surface. That’s helps blend the cliff and smooth out the sharper response to friction. Also, there’s a difference between sharper- violent motion and the ball retaining its energy longer. So stored energy downlane helps create pin carry (Coefficients of restitution)

[@JeffWeselyan]

I'm getting venom shock but what the hell house drill and pba drilling I'm freaking confused

[@jayveebee1076]

What is a "taller pin"?

[@joshhammonds7145]

A pin that is pretty high above the finger holes (probably more above the ring finger and kicked to the right a little bit). I have a taller pin on a Pandemonium Pearl, and it snaps.

[@Nick.McIntyre]

Visually higher above the fingers. In dual angle layouts, taller pins will have lower VAL angles