LGR - Restoring a 1987 IBM PS/2 Model 30

[@LGR]

To everyone sending me links to hard disk cables they think will work on this machine: as mentioned near the end of the video, there is _only one_ cable that works with this configuration on this particular variant of the Model 30. That would be IBM PN:61X8903. Even then I still don't have the correct hard drive for this machine so I wouldn't be able to use the thing anyway, so I'm temporarily just using an XT-CF-Lite card instead. Also, yes I am aware that blowing air into a fan can cause problems. TOO BAD, HAD FUN, _NO REGRETS_ :P

[@Gasoline85]

Livin' on the edge, huh? ;)

[@Narayan_1996]

I was really hoping you could put a Hard Disk in it, what a pity it was not this time ...

[@devil8975]

Such a rebel.

[@liquidsoftpc]

*NO RAGRETS*

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

LGR That's ourvLGR living dangerous lol

[@aMondia]

The power button was most likely disabled on purpose, because this machine was never supposed to be turned off.

[@coalitionofseekers9572]

More like it was never meant to be turned on.

[@austfox2170]

Looks like it is in the ‘on’ position when the case is opened so looks like it was always meant to be on.

[@andywolan]

Hmm, a clever hack to ensure the PC is not inadvertently shut off by someone.

[@BrodieChree]

The rod would pop out on its own too. This was my first BBS machine in the 80s.

[@andywolan]

@@BrodieChree Cool. 9600 baud?

[@spiderjerusalem100]

I don't even own any old computer stuff but it's just relaxing and interesting hearing you talk about this kind of thing.

[@moretimebeats1566]

Exactly

[@marcusavron47]

Wow, same here

[@seanc.5310]

Certainly nothing wrong with that!

[@CounterComplex]

Much agreed. Soothing in the mornings.

[@2cute2furrious]

I'm 10 years old my love technology also same here

[@DopeEd]

Your passion for forgotten obsolete technology is so refreshing in the current throwaway culture we live in.

[@bobdole4694]

I have been inspired to restore an old netbook to run as a digital calendar / weather display as a result of Clint's videos.

[@nicktaylor1649]

We lived in a throwaway culture back then too, don’t forget! The Mac 128K was a nasty blow.

[@MidnightThunderYT]

'That was used so that IBM can annoy me 30 years later.' That is pure gold.

[@mroxannevh]

Clint's Home for Wayward PCs

[@volvo09]

It makes me feel bad about all the computers I retire at work.... They all sit on a pallette covered in coffee, sticker glue, pen and permanent marker marks, move company stickers, dents, and scratches, busted plastic and missing panels... and after all that abuse are destined for the recycler, or maybe reselling if they're capable... 30 years from now maybe a few will be loved and restored :) but I doubt it. I can just see that computer sitting around now and it was lucky enough to survive!

[@davidfrank693]

green plumbob The Island of Misfit Machines

[@thetechsavvy01]

Wait whats a wayward pc

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes complex

[@connecticuter2410]

Why is this so soothing

[@StrangePsyDays]

Smooth Jazz and a great confident soothing voice...

[@Cartrigger]

Maybe just because you like pc rebuilds

[@ChadBoughton]

I hate when I get computer restoration blue balls. I feel your pain.

[@Caseytify]

As long as you don't feel his ... never mind ...

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes conflicts with eventual Windows NTVDM instances running alongside (like in a mixed network).

[@spugintrntl]

You should write a big book about all things old IBM PC and call it "Fifty Shades Of Beige".

[@timj3788]

Does that mean his autobiography will be "Fifty Shades of Wood-Grain?"

[@tracyscott3261]

YES!!!!!

[@hifijohn]

...with an orange switch.

[@amshermansen]

@@hifijohn His autobiography would probably be titled something like "Going against the grain"

[@CB3ROB-CyberBunker]

just don't wear a pink shirt on the cover.

[@philscomputerlab]

What a beauty! We had these, or maybe a 35, at our school :D Great memories of learning Logo and other stuff, and of course at the end of the lesson the teacher would let us play games! Zany Golf anyone? Great video!

[@stonent]

I took a class called Business Computer Applications in High School and we used these as well. The class taught typing for part of the year and the rest of the year we learned Microsoft Works for DOS. That is how I learned Excel formulas since Works had the same basic formulas as Excel.

[@AtariBorn]

The 286 model was ancient when I got one for free. The school had upgraded to 486 DX 4 systems and I got a free word processor lol. I wonder whatever happened to that little microchannel riddled monster. Come to think of it, the one I had was an all-in-one version, with the monitor built in.

[@remixislandmusic510]

i remember playing games on windows xp computers with no more than a core 2 duo (or Celeron in homeroom) until xp ended support so they finally brought us some reasonably nice computers.

[@jorgenkarlsson6654]

Zany golf, i love that game. Playd it allt at school myself 😊

[@retrodreams2428]

Lucky you! My school had Windows 95 PC's that took 10 minutes to boot up lol! Don't forget the horribly slow 90's internet!

[@rabbitbvt]

I know nothing about computers, but watching these videos is so satisfying and fun to me

[@vape9546]

Very satisfying

[@emilyemily9953]

"I don't know what this thing went through, but I found it sad" Judging by the scraped off serial number, the permanent marker, and the masking tape label, probably public school

[@TexTom1981]

Really think that as it was basically a dumb terminal? Comp class setting perhaps?

[@crissidoll]

I can't wait for you to hit 1M, man. You deserve it so much. Been here since

[@rukasuara]

this was my first computer. I'm still using its keyboard as of today. Thank you for this

[@aidancommenting]

Do you still have the computer?

[@larrysmith5991]

my first pc to god and i missed this episode!!!..i do not have mine sold it and got a 486 but still love 286's

[@rukasuara]

@@aidancommenting No, but I bought exactly the same spec as I had on ebay a couple of years ago. I haven't tried to boot it yet but supposedly it works

[@Eleison23]

Amazing! I was the proud owner, upon graduating High School in 1989, of an IBM PS/2 Model 30/286. It had a 20MB HDD and a few K of memory. I was later to upgrade it with a Plus Hardcard XL 100MB, and 2x 512k SIMMs for 1MB RAM - WOW! The Hardcard was the sweetest peripheral I ever purchased. 10 years later it was still operating just fine, having been transplanted to my 386 and then to my VLB 486 and never giving me errors or crashes. That Hardcard cost my Dad $500 at Egghead Software when it was new, and I had to do a good deal of convincing him that it was a good investment. I also installed a 2400 baud MNP5 modem for my first online experience. My parents didn't like BBSes - thought they'd run up our long distance bill - but they were OK when I connected to the college's Annex box for Internet access. Eventually I installed Minix on this PS/2. That was the end of playing DOS games and pretty much anything else useful... but, MINIX!!!

[@Narayan_1996]

you have no idea how much I love these videos, they are very well produced, and they still help me practice my English every day, thanks ^^

[@scottinbristol]

I kan hellp u with ur English aswel if u wont

[@Narayan_1996]

Of course I want, all the help is welcome ^^

[@MissingLinkGTRS]

I wish you luck man English is a weird language but if you need help I might be able to help

[@Lexilove2016]

@@Narayan_1996 he was joking, note the crappy and fairly obviously poor spelling.

[@stonetheforbidden]

I came to possess this exact model PC recently, and it's in impeccable shape. All the original screws and hardware, including the hard drive and floppy drive, mouse and keyboard. The only issue is that the floppy drive won't read discs correctly, so installing anything onto it is currently impossible until I either repair the floppy drive, or replace it. However, like you stated, the FD has that weird connector that isn't at all common, and those drives are expensive!

[@winstonchaychel]

I feel its pain, it's as old as I am LMAO. Floppy, grimey, oily, we'll all be in that state some time 😂

[@19CD91]

HA Not if I die first. Loophole achieved.

[@KomradeMikhail]

MrsG87 Not me... I'm getting bionic impants !...

[@T1G3R009]

Yeah I also need a good rod to get my power switch going 😂

[@MrKiddyIcarus]

FeelsBadMan

[@jakubzidek]

Stephanie Salazar Lol

[@mar4kl]

Wow, did you bring back some memories! About six months of my first year of full-time employment was spent on a 1987 IBM PS/2 Model 30 very much like this one, writing software and providing tech support for my company's software package! I didn't know much about hardware in those days - I was primarily a programmer - but I do remember that my PS/2 Model 30 had the optional "whopping-big" 30MB ESDI hard drive and 640kB RAM. The computer came from one of my employer's business partners, who was an IBM dealer, so it also came with a matching PS/2 VGA monitor, a 14" IBM 8512, I think. If I remember correctly, it had a 10MHz 80286 processor (but did not have the math coprocessor), which made it the fastest Intel-based PC I had ever used up to that point. It couldn't keep up with my boss's Compaq DeskPro 386/16, of course, but it was more than enough for the kind of work we were doing at the time. We didn't have 3270 emulator network cards at that company (although in 1988, I got a new job in a bank's IT department, and at that bank we did use 3270 emulation, first mostly with IRMA coax cards similar to the one you found in this computer, and later via software emulation that worked with our IBM Token-Ring network hardware. (Also at that second job, I had an IBM PS/2 Model 50 for awhile, which had a slightly faster '286 processor and Micro Channel Architecture.)

[@fartamplifer]

I can't believe I'm have an emotional reaction to a KZbin video but I'm loving these old PC reviews. I'm quickly approaching 40 so these are the kinds of computers I had as a kid. My dad was a teacher so he'd bring various computers home from school for me to use. One year he brought home a PS/2 Model 30 with an IBM dot matrix printer and IBM monitor. For me watching this video and the other ones where you build a "dream" Win 98 or XP PC is incredibly nostalgic. I remember in the late 1990s/early 2000s wanting a killer Tualatin 1.4S system. Seeing the boxes with Diamond Stealth video cards Gravis soundcards takes me back to going to the local computer store and seeing all the components and of course the ever present Altec Lansing speakers. They're also an incredible source of nostalgia for me. I think one of the biggest things for me was that back in the 1980s and into the 1990s computers were kind of like a secret club. They were pretty expensive and most people didn't have the first clue about them. I didn't feel elitist or anything like that. I just felt like computers were these magical devices and I could poke around them and figure out how to get them to do what I wanted. So yeah, seeing all this stuff brings back a lot of memories of my childhood, highschool, and university days. I've often thought about building a "dream machine" from the Windows 3.11/95/98/XP/7/Vista eras but I have no idea what I would do with them after I built them and played a couple of games. For me the fun would be in actually building it and getting it all set up.

[@MattExzy]

"I don't know if it's actually helping, but it makes me feel better..." Ahh. Story of my life :D

[@terencemangan9193]

Thank you so much for that. It really takes me back. My 1st PC was a 2nd hand IBM PS/2 mod 70. Tool-less case, hard power switch on the front. Lots of satisfying clicks. running os/2. I junked it back in 2006 and have regretted it ever since. Love your work.

[@JomasterTheSecond]

10 print "farts" 20 goto 10 run

[@volvo09]

"Does that say farts?" "awesome"

[@tracyscott3261]

Yes but can you have it make the sound? (and possibly a brown … Nevermind.)

[@MrDavito2]

The only thing I ever learned in 1980s computer class.

[@NathanCorleone]

Darius Beaumont ??

[@ericsills6484]

Yeah, he couldn't say hello like everyone else!

[@retrotechnerd3124]

Not many people can make cleaning a 31-year-old computer interesting, but somehow you can. And that's what I love about this channel, along with the oodles of oddware, the exciting edutainment videos, & the terrific thrifting videos. :)

[@irenesilvadeaquino5621]

Always smile when an LGR video is uploades, at least when it´s fresh video.

[@FengWah]

I enjoyed the video, especially seeing Silpheed at the end. I played it so much in my childhood I can still remember the names of some of the ships used for copy protection in the manual. Seeing you demo that game brought back a huge wave of nostalgia. Thanks for that!

[@s.m.2868]

You should make more of these restoration videos, they are just so relaxing to watch

[@LGR]

Definitely have more planned!

[@aurimasbruzas6632]

fantastic! very helpful video, , please in the future try to create something similar with PS/2 8513 monitor, especially refurbished crt lamp, so many damaged monitors on ebay

[@celebratelife865]

That power switch it ridiculous! I bet you couldn't believe what you were looking at when you opened it. I love your writing, and encourage you to keep going! More vintage machine restorations! PLEASE!

[@samsatalof6262]

I have not watched this yet but I know it’s gonna be good since it’s an LGR video

[@IntoTheOrdinary]

Watching someone narrating cleaning is way more interesting than actually cleaning something. Thanks, Clint! :)

[@diffengine]

"some of my Packard Bells" is not a phrase I expected to hear in the Year of Our Lord 2018

[@shroomie108]

Mr. Lgr your videos have inspired me to find and get all our old computers back running and play old dos games and such. I even found a 486 laptop and pentium 1 I didn't know we had. I already have our PC AT clone working. As someone who grew up in the 90s and built 3 pcs by 2000 it is bringing back so many memories and not all good. Sadly memories of IRQ conflicts and such that plug and play eliminated. Not trying to blow wind up your skirt and dont get a big head but keep up the good work and thanks clint. Wow this sounds way more pandering than I meant to but whatever. Most these old computers get tossed so its good to see someone saving them.

[@Evanski]

I love your restoration videos!

[@ianmilo9982]

God, I used to own a 286, 386, 486 back in the days. The beeps, the Dos commands.... make me so nostalgic... Those were the PCs. These things were computers and computers only. You felt special owning one. It was rare and a special thing to approach it and flip the switch... I am subscribed and notifications are ON :)

[@C4103]

You should have just written "GR" after the "L" :P

[@LGR]

If I couldn't remove it completely, I'd thought about it!

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

@@LGR why doesn't that surprise me lol

[@Quatsch84]

I love this guy's channel! Takes me back to the days when my Dad had the IBM PS/2 and the IBM PCJr. He could just switch on the computer for me when I was about 3 years old and Reader Rabbit and Math Rabbit would keep me busy for hours!

[@SuperJet_Spade]

What's this? More IBM stuff? Awesome!

[@andrive]

yeah!

[@Ptero4]

An early 8086-based IBM PS/2 computer.

[@jerseybob4471]

When I worked for IBM I had a PC/AT with a 3278 emulator card. Using a series of keystrokes you could switch from PC mode to green screen mainframe access and back. I had a PS2/30 286 with windows for home use. I ordered the PC and then broke my leg. I spent my recovery playing King’s Quest IV. Thanks for the stroll down memory lane.

[@cleverlyblonde]

IPL is an IBM term, "Initial Program Load". I think it attempts to boot from the network.

[@markshade8398]

Very possible. That could be a token ring network card or an early coaxial ethernet card. Both supported booting off of the network.

[@straightpipediesel]

@@markshade8398 Neither. A 4700 is a IBM text terminal system for bank tellers. It ran on a serial coax loop. It is conceptually similar to the 3270 and the 5250 systems where the terminal downloads blocks, like a form, has the user fill it out, and then uploads the data. It is very similar to how modern web forms work.

[@stephenmorrish]

Back in the mid 90's I worked for IBM in a hard drive fab plant in the UK. Surrounded by IBM and all of its goodness. This brings back fond memories...

[@zack41564]

Christmas morning 2003, building my 1st PC with new parts (Athlon 1.1GHZ) I cut my finger all the way to the bone. Blood makes me faint, well not so much after having cancer but back then I hit the ground and woke up in my parent's bedroom hours later. Have a nike swoosh looking scar to this day.

[@ericstech3181]

Holy shit dude that's intense.

[@ElectroIsMyReligion]

Why do I love this channel so god damn much? I didn't even knew that I liked old computers.. Clint you must be a wizard the way you enchant me with passion for old PC's and games!

[@Megabobster]

Hang on, LGR AdLib clone?

[@LGR]

Yep! It's a custom-built AdLib card that was made by a viewer for me to use on the show! Basically a clone of the original AdLib sound card from 1987 with a sweet LGR silkscreen on it.

[@Megabobster]

LGR So cool!

[@freeculture]

It looks a lot like the original, nice.

[@39Chevy]

Yeah I wa confused and a little excited...i thought he had started making restomod parts!

[@exlibrisas]

Sooooo satisfying to see you clean up and restore things. LGSMR.

[@SaltyPeanut]

This video is cool and all, but we're all left asking.. Where's the woodgrain?

[@physzendax116]

I love the wholesomeness of LGR, and the Videoproduction-value is amazing! up to 4k @ 60FPS, he deserves some credits for that!

[@pixelsquish]

This was my first PC. I miss it like crazy. 20 MB Hard Drive!

[@EngineHeadCW]

Man. I think you did an excellent job restoring it. That's unfortunate about the hard drive, but obviously you did everything you could do to provide the proper drive for that model. Great job!

[@moyosoofficial5042]

For a moment, I was thinking you'd just go and add a "GR" to that L

[@space_gamer9146]

same

[@TrueLifeRetelling]

Thank you for making these videos! They’re really enjoyable to watch while relaxing.

[@JaySmith-cd1ln]

Good morning from Australia :)

[@PaulKostrzewa]

Silpheed was my first game with sound on my 8088 XT clone with a MediaVision Thunderboard sound card... great memories, I'm so glad you featured it.

[@robertoXCX]

"Lets address some of the yellowing going on with the front of the case" Hello and welcome back to The 8-Bit Guy

[@aidancommenting]

I actually watch a lot of Odd Tinkering and he uses retro-briting all the time (at least, he calls it retro-briting; I don't know if it's actually spelled that way)

[@StuffWePlay]

One of the most relaxing videos I've watched in awhile. I could listen to LGR restoring old computers forever.

[@hind__]

When all your favorite youtubers post videos back to back after a dry spell 😭

[@BlueThe1up]

man, youre totally the best retro computing tuber. i love how informative yet entertaining you are.

[@Doellimann]

I suppose this machine worked over here in Germany for a while! There’s a sticker on the Power supply which says „TÜV geprüfte Bauart“ TüV stands for „Technischer Überwachungsverein“ its a technical test Organisation and „tested constructio“

[@rogero8443]

EXTREME....ly satisfying, thanks for recording and editing this!

[@qbradq]

ZOMG this was my first computer! My family bought it for 600 USD in 1996 because we didn't know any better. It had some kind of after market TI co processor that was supposed to make it a 386 equivalent (according to the family that sold it to us). I think it was a normal math co processor though. Also mine still had it's 5.5 disk drive.

[@qbradq]

It also had a20mb hdd that I had to clear space on just to install wolf3d shareware :)

[@x69T0M69x]

Never underestimate how entertaining the cleaning process is

[@KomradeMikhail]

I used to have a stack of a couple dozen PS/2's of all different models... I now wish I had not scrapped most of them for parts back around 1998 when they were worthless junk. I saved a few, but it still hurts me to think I wasted so many.

[@ub3r73k]

there is something so satisfying about watching these restoration videos.

[@FLUFFSQUEAKER]

omg yes

[@PixelSprixie]

It's super satisfying 🤗

[@larse.437]

Although I never grew up with computers like this one or similar types, and even though I consider myself as a noob when it comes to most computer stuff it is always very interesting and pleasing to watch LGR. You do a great job, dude!

[@robred123s]

I actually have one of these somewhere in storage. Of course, I haven't turned it on in probably 15 years. Luckily for me though, I have a working HDD and cable in mine (last I checked)

[@FuzzballRenakitty]

You know what to do dude! +1

[@brianclark2125]

I was always taught not to let the fans spin when blowing dust off of them with air because it could wear out the fan motors... Hmm, maybe I have been mislead this whole time! Great Video as always

[@dimensiongamer534]

Nice timing I was really bored.

[@rejamrejam]

I was *just* about to login to work. A reprieve!

[@MrKt25]

Same here too :)

[@alexanderblake5780]

Same

[@Dragonfire511]

I was waiting this video to come up. I enjoy Clint videos on thingies

[@Elz_und_Elz]

Same

[@nightcorefusion3884]

This video was certainly educational. I just came into possession of a 286 model 30. With a 30MB hard drive already installed... It certainly needs a very good clean but otherwise looks intact. No obvious signs of abuse or corrosion. Other than the abuse I gave it bypassing the lock since I didn't get a key with it. And if it wasn't 2 AM right now, I'd be outside blowing out the dust already. Damn you time!

[@alexmaley1810]

I think that computer was a server at a company and was NEVER to be shutdown. Also, that hard drive was removed because of the stuff on it, not to leave the building.

[@Hyreia]

This makes perfect sense.

[@alexmaley1810]

Some companies were quickly ripping their stuff apart to remove their files. Instead of formating the hard disk, that just take it, remove the files, then distroy it. All speed without a care about they futer owner. So greedy and sad.

[@paulschmidt7473]

I doubt it was a server, more likely a terminal for a mainframe. There was a while, that instead of having a terminal and a computer on a desk, they just used a card like that one and a terminal emulator, so you could use both. It's possible that there never was a hard drive in there, but it made no sense to spend the money on a dual floppy. It booted off the mainframe, which had a file image for DOS, then you did all your work that way.

[@drumguy1384]

It was obvious when he booted it with the network card in what it was for. It was being used as a dumb terminal. No need for a HDD, and probably no need to have a functioning power switch on the front. If you need to turn it off just cut the power or unplug it. A switch can get bumped and turn it off accidentally. If they were pulling the drives to junk them before selling it doesn't really make sense to me that they would take the cable too. Seems like it would be easier to just unplug the cable from the back of the drive and leave it where it was. I think they probably never had HDDs in the first place and this one just lost it's blanking plate at some point.

[@AlfaGiuliaQV]

@@drumguy1384 That explains the power switch - it was unhooked deliberately so no one would shut it off by accident!

[@icwiz]

when i heard you say ESDI...it brought back memories of when i was looking into my PC's specs as a kid. I had totally forgotten that term.

[@Treveliian]

That power switch though! WANT!

[@aidancommenting]

That mechanism looks so breakable I'm afraid to breathe on it. It looks like a cool system though

[@theonlysin5887]

man i really love your content, I'm not a retro computer guy myself but your laid back format and clear love for what you do lightens my day every time :)

[@ericwood3709]

I didn't know there were PC floppies that were powered through the data cable. That's how Mac floppies work, and surprisingly their cables are much smaller.

[@SwissArmyTin]

Holy crap, that SSK made my heart stop for a second! I almost forgot you got one in a previous video, man. Also you're not wrong at all about the textured plastic from this era of IBM. I've been working on restoring a Model M122 the past few days, and good lord the dirt is absolutely embedded into this thing. Even after several hours of hard scrubbing, it's still not all out. At least you were able to get this thing looking beautiful again!

[@trekaddict]

I deactivated adblock for this channel.

[@GerardKean]

...that's what I forgot. you've reminded me to flick the toggle. I've been watching the number of subs going up too

[@thepenultimateninja5797]

A fantastic solvent for sticker adhesive is something called 'Stoddard solvent', which is just a fancy way of saying barbecue lighter fluid. It won't damage plastics, but it makes short work of sticker adhesive. If the sticker is an uncoated paper label, saturate it with lighter fluid and leave it for about 5 mins - it will peel off as easily as a post-it. If the sticker has a shiny plastic coating, rip this off to expose the paper underneath and treat as above. Any remaining residue can be removed with some more lighter fluid on a paper towel.

[@LordProteus]

If I wanted to aquire one of those detailing brushes, what exactly would I be looking for? As in, what are they called? What would I type into Amazon search, for instance.

[@VeyronBD]

They are a bit of a gimmick, any decent soft bristle paint brush will do the job fine, if not better.

[@protonjinx]

Around '95 I had a buddy who ran a computer store. One time he offered me old used PS/2 systems (386dx20) for ~$10 each, me and my best friends grabbed 10-11 of them, incl a bunch of ps/2 keyboards. Over the years they all ended up in a dumpster for one reason or another. Just a few years after the last of them were gone, I realized the vintage value..... I still havent stopped crying.

[@MechaFenris]

I wrote C programs on one of those boxes (and Intel Assembly) while in college. :) I loved the old keyboards, but hated the mouse...

[@Versuffe]

Haha mouse with ball *R O L L*

[@MelodieOctavia]

I have to say, my favorite part of your restoration is the cleaning of the case. Just seeing it all gunky and spotted with sticky residue, and everything is all better with some goo-gone and a magic eraser is completely satisfying. By the way, you're paying way too much for your magic erasers if you buy Mr. Clean. You can get generic melamine foam for pennies on the dollar compared to those.

[@user-mz3om1fc5g]

Friend 1:Hey! I have a PS2! Do you want to come to my home? Friend 2:Yes please! -shows ps/2- Friend 2:Ok bye

[@retrodreams2428]

Me every single day lol 😂😂

[@martinmayhemsretrorundown]

The amber motherboard with the yellow chips look great and would go well with a wooden look case. Microfibre cloths are great for cleaning computers, consoles, motorbikes and all sorts. A very NICE video. Cheers👍

[@MxArgent]

It's worth mentioning for any readers just getting into VC that PS/2 systems are very attractive and often have some pretty fascinating features (particularly the later, MCA Bus systems) but they're not really "first project" material due to how nonstandard they are. They can also get pretty pricy for how common they are, even by the standards of a increasingly expensive hobby. Our boy Clint is striving for authenticity, but anyone who's working on a proprietary HDD based PS/2 like the 25 or 30 may be better served with a ISA IDE card such as the XT-IDE depending on their budgetary and/or time needs. (Later models, using MCA, are better served by SCSI cards like Future Domain's fare since ISA cards are unusable and no IDE card for MCA exists.)

[@kompst_tu]

Your videos are so soothing and entertaining to watch during the Holidays. Merry Christmas, anyone seeing this.

[@winstonsmith84]

Target used these as terminals in there stores in the late 80s and early 90s

[@natgrant1364]

It looks really good! I like restoring old game consoles. There's just something so satisfying about it. I'd do computers but the thrift stores around here never have any for some reason. Doesn't mean I won't stop looking. Anyway, great video as always.

[@Dragonfire511]

Oh.. Im as old as this computer

[@dovic2293]

i'am the same age as this computer :P

[@TheRealColBosch]

I'm older. :'(

[@Dragonfire511]

oh... well my first computer was a MITAC Intel Celeron 266mhz in the year 1997 it came with windows 95

[@aidancommenting]

My first computer was a ThinkPad T61 in 2015. I was 10.

[@DeepVoiceGamer]

Nice work. Always happy to see an old machine restored.

[@ricky_pigeon]

omg 2160p 60fps, it's glorious

[@blackbearcj5819]

I think I could watch you clean old computers for hours.

[@aegisofhonor]

to explain the missing product label being scraped off, it wasn't that uncommon for companies to intentionally scrape off serial numbers, especially front panel serial numbers do possibly distance themselves with the their computer suppliers if for whatever reason their business relations with the company declined at some point or just as a company policy that they do not show front panel product numbers on any of their office machines. Back in my time as a janitor some years ago I ran into quite a few of these old PS/2s and IBM PCs (being thrown away sadly, and no we couldn't salvage them and/or take them home, that was against the company policy, we had to just throw them out with the garbage back than) that had their front serial numbers removed in almost the exact same way.

[@TheMrVengeance]

If I remember correctly you often can't take them home for tax reasons. I work part-time in IT and have at times asked employers if I could take stuff home that was going to be trashed simply for being outdated or otherwise unnecessary but still useful or fun for a nerd like me. I was told throwing the stuff away means the company can write it off tax-wise, if they donate it or sell it they can't. Of course that's impossible to check though, so at times the rule was; "This should be thrown away, if it's not here tomorrow I'll assume it has been thrown away.. wink wink nudge nudge".

[@DiddlyDiPotatoes]

Watching you clean and refurbish old computers is so therapeutic.

[@HAL-dz8hk]

When I clicked on this video I was expecting 8-bit guy, I'm not complaining, I just... dunno...

[@HAL-dz8hk]

There's green LGR logo on thumbnail and I still think 8-bit guy for some reason :D

[@HAL-dz8hk]

Oh, I love both of these guys, its just Lolwut have I clicked? :D Too bad I have nothing to retrobright. Can I retrobright my face?

[@qq-sh8sn]

He's becoming the 8-but guy

[@HAL-dz8hk]

They're both serving roughly the same market, add the Nostalgia Nerd an the Holy Trinity is complete! :D

[@TheJoebus666]

HAL 9891 - Well, 8-Bit Guy often focuses on the Commodore 64, Clint on MS-DOS and Nostalgia Nerd often takes a British look at computing history, so they all overlap nicely but serve slightly different purposes in my opinion

[@comradeurod9805]

Trying to get some sleep after a hard day and then a lgr video comes along. Gosh darn clint! Nice video as always

[@1903tx]

I wonder why they went with captive spring-loaded Torx screws it they were trying to save money

[@toymachine4253]

1903tx They already had a bunch in stock, and if you just install the screw then you have a bunch of springs and clips taking up shelf space. maybe.

[@Qgal5kap123]

I love how many of the restorations you do are of machines I've actually owned at some point in time.

[@TheFrostSnowball]

But can it run Crysis?

[@choppergirl]

We had about 4 of these and 4 model 50's. They all went straight into the dumpster save for the Model M keyboards. Propreitary crpp through and through. This week I pulled out all 8 Model M keyboards, and swapped otu all my membrane keyboards for these 1986 PS/2 Model M's and I'm in keyboard heaven now. The keyboards were the only ting worth saving on these machines and by an accident of fate we saved all of them while all the rest of the units got hurled in a dumpster around 1993... some after being shot with a 22 rifle. You could of saved yourself a lot of time dusting by just hitting the thing from every direction inside with an electric leaf blower... including through the power supply fan. Seriously, I've never used a can of compressed air in my life... leaf blower all the way. Just do it outside on your porch. I don't even charge for it. Isopropyl alcohol will take off the stickers

[@Chriva]

Dang. Haven't seen SIMM's in many many years. Largest ones were one meg iirc?

[@therealfranklin]

30 pin? Maybe 8M max? Not that a 8086 could address that. I had some 72pin 64M SIMMs from an old DEC Multia that I'm not sure where they might have went.

[@Chriva]

Looked them up. There's even 16MB modules available in the 30-pin version. That is impressive considering how few pins they have. The magic of multiplexing :)

[@xaenon]

I had a 486dlc rig in the late 1990s with 32 meg of memory. Eight 4-mb 30 pin SIMMs. I seem to recall hearing about 16 mb 30-pin SIMMs for use on some early 486sx/dx systems but I've never seen such a thing. 16-32 megs in that class of machine was considered 'WOW', and by the time larger memory specs were required they'd gone to 72-pin SIMMs (Pentium and later 486).

[@xaenon]

8086 and 8088 could address one meg max. 16 meg for 286, 386sx, and 386sx variants, 32 meg for 386dx and 386dx variants. I think 64 meg was max for 486sx/dx and variants, but I can't be sure about that now.

[@AndrewAMartin]

@@sebastian19745 I have a SoundBlaster AWE32 that has two 4 Mb 30-pin SIMMs installed on it for the sound fonts. My second 286 PC used both DIP DRAM chips and 30-pin SIMMs, my next PC was a 486 that used either 30-pin or 72-pin SIMMs, but not both, like you had.

[@dae6]

This is particularly nostalgic for me. The 30-286 10mhz model was the first dos based PC I had. Upgraded it with an Ad-lib card, 1 MB of RAM and a 2400 bps modem. That machine defined much of my nerdy and socially awkward childhood and I probably used it long past its prime. Wing Commander 1 didn't run very well on it in retrospect, but I didn't know any better.