LGR - Building My Dream $3,588 Windows XP PC

[@LGR]

Question for those that made it through the whole build and saw the final specs: _What upgrades or changes would you like to see this PC receive in the future, if any?_ As mentioned at the end I plan to upgrade the sound card and add a PhysX board, but I'd love to hear your suggestions!

[@im.a.nickel]

Get a Cooler Master HAF X case. It's from 2010, but It's looks way more time period accurate with that side fan. Also some cold cathode lighting. SLI GeForce 9800 GTX (or maybe Quad SLI 9800 GX2).

[@Sebastian-dx9qg]

I am pretty sure it was 3.5GB RAM limit for XP

[@cheaterman49]

You can actually put one more gig in there. I can't wait for the PhysX card review, I remember it from back in the day but I'm not sure if it qualifies as oddware or not :-) certainly didn't live up to the promise hehe. EDIT: Oh and please do tell us how much better Crysis works with your new RAM :-)

[@blueferret21]

I have the original box and driver disk for the PhysX card if you need them!

[@MrSkyl1ne]

Auzentech X-Fi prelude soundcard and the 8800 Ultra. A logitech G15 keyboard and G5 mouse would also be nice and period correct. Maybe a badass windows XP skin and dual DVD drives (dual because that was badass back then). Maybe a ccfl tube at the botom of the case.

[@LKonstantina915]

10 years from now: So i bought a 3090 for 100$ since i couldnt afford one when it was released!

[@maestrogringo]

LOL exactly, my next build in 5 years or so will have an RTX card and VR support but it'll already be outdated

[@TH3C001]

Probably more like 15 years from now.

[@informitas0117]

There will be no new gfx cards, the shortage will be the norm. During the water wars of the early 2060's the 3080 and 3090's will be used as "hard value" trade credits between the remaining city states.

[@S.O.N.E]

Im counting on it

[@masternobody1896]

no lgr already has rtx 3090

[@Vanzann]

Seeing the Vice City & F.E.A.R. icons on a XP desktop filled me with more nostalgia than I expected.

[@CommodoreFan64]

Same here, and I still Play Vice City from time to time just to go around and cause chaos lol!

[@CommodoreFan64]

toilet brush I've done those, and the only thing I don't like is you can't swim, when I first played the game all those years ago on my PC I was like WTF?!? Thankfully Vice City Stories on the PS2 kind of fixed that, and GTA: SA for sure did, which I still play from time to time as well to drive around, and listen to music. GTA games always put me in a good mood when I'm having a bad/stressful day.

[@CommodoreFan64]

toilet brush One of the bad things about Vice City stories is it's only on the PS2, and PSP, and I'm not the biggest fan of using a controller with GTA games unless it's the Android versions(can't stand touch screen only controls) or China Town Wars on the DS/Android where it's built for it, and maybe it's just me, but I don't think the police are as bad in Vice City on the Android version, but they are still no cake walk either. Also I just rebuilt my work computer, and put Xubuntu 18.04 64bit, and was testing Steam for Linux, and Steam Play on some downtime to see what games would run, and I forgot how clunky the controls(both keyboard/mouse, and controller) are for the original the top down GTA games(I got all the games up to GTA 4 on a weekend Steam sale for $20 years back), and really took me a few minutes to get decent again lol.

[@philscomputerlab]

Oh my, that build ticks all the boxes! Extreme Edition, Quad Core, SLI, WD RAID. It's great seeing you branch out to XP / more modern stuff, there is whole new world out there with lots of fun!

[@GotoTechReviewsChannel]

An LGR\Phil collab needs to happen.

[@nerdyneedsalife8315]

What's funny is I'm 21 so while many would consider it newer, I think of XP as this ancient OS. It's just hilarious how perspectives are different just because of age.

[@philscomputerlab]

nerdyneedsalife What I really like about Clint, is that he seems comfortable with different eras / time periods. I know plenty that are "set" on one era, and refuse to branch out. I find every era interesting and I have good memories for all of them, not just childhood :)

[@creesch]

Well It is still a bunch newer than the 80s and 90s era hardware we see here often ;)

[@jk9554]

@PhilsComputerLab "More modern stuff" just made my day :D

[@emirvmendoza]

5:30 I ordered Service Pack 2 through my Dad's office in 2004. The office borrowed the CD to upgrade all computers there. Haha.

[@qwertyuiopzxcfgh]

"We're just going to pack it all in and hide it behind this pannel." My kind of cable management right there ^

[@jayhill2193]

same here, but it's proven practical not only in terms of time saving but also in the case you want to change some parts and you don't have to unzip a thousand cable ties. yeah, best cable management imo.

[@AGFuzzyPancake]

If that's not how it's intended to be done, how in the heck are you supposed to do it?!

[@sechran]

O u t o f s i g h t , o u t o f m i n d . . .

[@crylune]

I mean, I can't see it, what's the point? I never cable manage the back of my PC especially in case I wanna move stuff around. I'm the only one who looks there anyway - now if I were to build a PC for someone else, different story

[@Heru3005]

Seeing games and PC's from 2007/8 on a retro focused channel making me feel old af.

[@Your_username_]

Cavey Möth Are SATA and PCIe outdated? When did this happen?

[@KiLLUMiNATii]

Make you “feel” ? You ARE old a.f :) Me too 😒

[@lashyndragon]

Ikr, I mean I know XP is old and no longer supported, but to consider it retro...

[@010111010110]

u r old

[@jackedup447]

@@Your_username_ Its not really outdated, but the move to nvme drives sure does make sata 2.0 seem a little outdated. And besides we are up to like the 4th PCIe revision so PCIe 1.0 is pretty old by now I think.

[@Vienna3080]

“With a roll of toilet paper for a Video card” Damn that’s quite valuable in today’s markets

[@brianhintze6440]

Well played. ;o)

[@KokoroKatsura]

A N I M E N I M E

[@kirschitz64]

Subverted again with gpus being scalped and inaccessible

[@seamusmckeon9109]

This aged doubly well

[@LiquidDIO]

@@seamusmckeon9109 Yeah, I came back just to say that.

[@XanetySeven]

I miss how nice XP was without all the “cloud” based bs

[@uwu_peter]

pretty much the cloud based bs started with Windows 7, got way cloudier with Windows 8, and is almost only cloudy with Windows 10

[@liberator48]

You're just not using cloud right...

[@LegoWormNoah101]

There are clouds...on the desktop X3

[@fl570]

@@uwu_peter "almost only *overcast** with Windows 10" ;-)

[@wut6922]

Welcome to 2021. Where everything is online all the time.

[@TheRetroNobody]

That CPU heat sink may lead to time travel.

[@videopsybeam7220]

At 7:40 the motherboard looks like a carnival with a Ferris Wheel. This is a compliment, of course.

[@Demindrial]

Scrolled down in hopes of seeing this comment already, and here it is. LGR actually built a time machine to 2007-2008.

[@kilrahvp]

It's absolutely beautiful!

[@paulpillau5858]

As long as you don't pump 1.21 GW of power into it while accelerating to 88 mph you'll be fine.

[@RustyX2010]

fold space like in Event Horizon!

[@cjbael]

Windows XP was the best OS ever for me, worked so well, super easy to use, everything about it just felt great.

[@niffuM4205]

i remember playing sonic flash games on my moms work computer that was a windows XP. i love windows xp.

[@mohamadariq3881]

You're too old man

[@vinyl.croatia]

Yes, XP was very good os, and I used it for quiet a long time, in fact, i still use it on virtualbox, but for me the best os was Windows 7, it was just easier to use than XP.

[@DeLorean4]

XP worked well for me too, but I'm one of the only people to have had a flawless experience with Windows Me and Windows 8.0. They are still my favorite OSes

[@vinyl.croatia]

@@DeLorean4 yes, i still use windows 8.1 on my laptop and with classic shell it is very simmilar expierence with windows 7

[@innawoodsman]

There's something about late 00s PCs that's just so aesthetically pleasing to me. I love my RGB and sleek GPU designs, but exposed, spiky PCBs and heatsinks just gills me with nostalgia.

[@Stuff8522]

Windows XP had a SOUNDTRACK! WHAT! I've used that OS for years, and I never heard any soundtrack.

[@DefiantPunk0810]

Neither did I! But that's because Windows XP didn't have sound drivers for my setup by default, so I had to get them after all was said and done. I also never had the disk for the drivers, so yay, searching for old and unsupported parts drivers!

[@adamkriaco3865]

Me neither aswell

[@luuk3213]

I heard it recently when setting up my virtual machine

[@chuckanderson8144]

The music only played just after a new user account was created and logged on for the first time. Artist is Brian Eno BTW.

[@maggiethegamer1271]

@@chuckanderson8144 Nope, it was Stan LePard.

[@therealsnow]

So the key to having a cutting edge system on a budget is just to lag by 10yrs, sweet!

[@LukeYount]

Definitely, I picked up a used Dell M6400 mobile work station for 100 bucks. Its an 8lb brick and in 2008 it was one of the most expensive laptops you could buy.

[@megadan429]

Yep.. Just like me, therealsnow...lol

[@005AGIMA]

Even now I tend to lag a year or 2 behind, in both PC gear and consoles. Seems to be a sweet spot

[@CheapBastard1988]

Games are cheaper as well.

[@CeroAshura]

@@005AGIMA it's good to live with a little lag. By the time I buy a console, 2 generations have lept.

[@paolostrada93]

So much nostalgia. Hours and hours spent on Guru3d reading articles about GPUs I could never afford.

[@XTNDEADPLAY]

Paul Street what about now though?

[@brianwong6195]

Same here. For me, this was the pinnacle of watching PC hardware. Always reading and looking forward to the new GPU release even though I was never able to afford them. Then Sandy Bridge came along in 2010 and shit was stagnant for years.

[@Andytlp]

@@brianwong6195 Its still stagnant except for increase in core count. U can easily game on a 6 year old gpu today. gtx 970. If it was 2000 to 2006 your 2000 pc would have lasted maybe until 2002 tops. I dont mind as now you can game on stuff til they mechanically fail instead of having to replace perfectly working machines.

[@MrSafer]

@@XTNDEADPLAY you didn't ask me but i will tell you. For the first time i decided to buy a decent video card. Decided to go with nvidia because they have the best cards right now. They have a newish series of cards out right now, GeForce RTX i decided to get the 2080 super ~$600. In certain situations they even beat the ti! which is priced at about $1,000.

[@HystericalHuntress]

​@@Andytlp You are laughably wrong. The leaps in GPU performance over the past few years are absolutely insane, with the coming generation of hardware 4K will probably become the standard on PC. Intel and AMD both have also come a long way, AMD especially, in the CPU world. If your only reference for stagnation is 1080P gaming, that's your problem. Next gen consoles are also going to be pushing storage tech waaaay ahead. But I guess computation power skyrocketing, real time hardware raytracing, 20GB/s+ storage speeds, workstation and server CPU's going apeshit and everything else happening is 'stagnation' in your muddled brain. Also keep in mind software optimization is leaps and bounds ahead of where it was in the past, which is another huge factor. Your statement of hardware still being stagnant is a meme and a GTX 970 is not going to keep up worth a fuck today unless you exclusively play indie games or older AAA titles.. unless low-medium 720-900P is your go-to or you're fine with 20-30FPS. Even an RX 590 Fatboy (my old GPU before upgrading to a 5700 XT) which is a far more capable card than the 970 shows its age hard today. Just because your $300 budget machine can launch games from 2010 in 1080P 30FPS doesn't mean hardware is stagnant. You're an idiot, the age of 60FPS/1080P being the standard is dead.. you just don't realize it because you're wallet-limited I would assume. TWO fucking 970's in SLi can't even achieve Ultra 1080P 60FPS in a game like Fallout 4 which is hardly the pinnacle of demanding software.. but hey it's 'just fine' and 'future proof' by your incoherent rambling. Stop looking to 1080P benchmarks and you'll quickly realize the technology isn't stagnant, it's underutilized at those resolutions. Benchmark a 970 against a 5700XT / Radeon VII or a 2080 / 2080Ti in 1440P or 4K and you'll see massive gaps in performance. The only thing stagnant is 1080P gaming.

[@DONBUBRO]

The heat sink is absolutely stupendous.

[@CaesarBest]

I want it!

[@Ebrahim766]

how about new coolers rgb ?

[@TechBuilder]

Core2 Extreme & 8800 Ultra SLI was the bomb when I was little :( It was just a dream for me a few years back. Was only using a pentium 4 with a 64MB gpu back at that time. 13 years later, was finally able to save up for a Ry9 5950X and RTX3070. Your vid game me so nostalgic feels during the times I could only dream of having stuff that didn't lag on the lowest settings. Thank you for this! ❤️

[@kommandokodiak6025]

I love how you avoided showing the thermal paste application to dodge all that drama lol

[@switch55]

Prob put a marble-sized drop on there and went everywhere

[@AaronD12a]

Heh, I noticed that too. :)

[@Racecar564]

Ah yes, thermal paste application: something that, when shown to anyone, you have no idea what they're going to say...until it's too late.

[@competetodefeat4610]

Didn't have one side of one of the memory modules fully latched on one side though which was probably the entire memory error problem.

[@Racecar564]

@@competetodefeat4610 Lol

[@redtails]

I love how he never showed the thermal paste, cus it's always such a heated debate in the comments

[@jjt171]

well if he put the thermal pasted correctly it wouldnt be such a HEATED topic!! see what I did there?

[@KeradSnake]

don't worry, LGR isn't The Verge

[@iamsk8]

Just shut up

[@waxy1277]

Your comment about thermal paste is too long. YOU DON'T NEED THAT MUCH COMMENT!! Ten Syllables is enough. Worse than The Verge.

[@runninggames771]

It was probably pre-applied

[@stimmymayhem3201]

i like how you carefully edited out any shot of the CPU with the thermal paste. 100% no matter how you applied it there would be comments.

[@nihonkokusai]

why would anyone discuss that? They will find out themselves when applied wrong. I just smear it out thinly. Been doing that on my desktop and server and non issues running full tilt........

[@audreykea7771]

@@nihonkokusai it's sort of turned into a PCmasterrace pissing match where everyone has their own 'superior' method of applying paste and will readily argue with anyone who disagrees

[@generalbash89]

@@audreykea7771 if isn't applied with a authentic bone caviar spoon during a full moon, you are doing it wrong.

[@drb0mb]

@@nihonkokusai it's basically impossible to do wrong, but it's impossible to do perfect also. and you can't even observe how well you applied it because doing so physically damages it, so it's an argument for the sake of speculating about the perfect way.

[@jianh1989]

@@nihonkokusai even after thermal paste segment get edited out, somebody still comments.

[@toshineon]

This was fun to watch. My dad had a beast Windows XP computer that he bought in early 2004 for the cool sum of $4600. I still have it around, my dad gave it to me in 2010 when it finally retired after 6 years of faithful service.

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

Nice 👍 We had a early Pentium 4 XP desktop.I forgot the specs but I remember my mass disappointment it couldn't run the original Star Wars battle front

[@luuk3213]

is that how long computers are supposed to last? I had my 2 computers from 2007(made in 2000 or 1999)-2015 and the other 2016-current, and i thought I'd get a few more years out of it

[@fuher1313]

@@luuk3213 well that depends on what you´re using them for, but yes computers may last 10 plus years for school or some business.

[@E3kHatena]

This video hit me with the realization that Windows 7 is rapidly approaching "retro" territory. Oh no.

[@PassiveDestroyer]

But I still use Windows 7 on a 2012 laptop/notebook!

[@yellowcrash10]

I also use Windows 7 if I can help it. Windows 10 is abhorrent.

[@maxx_2245]

Mykel Hardin run games with safe disk DRM, not send Microsoft any usage data, not be forced into an update, be able to use software which said updates can totally fuck up out of nowhere. Windows 7 is a fine OS and I still use it on my PC. I don’t see any real reason to upgrade especially since I like my older games readily accessible without having to tinker with OS bullshit.

[@perikholt3395]

Non-bloated, non-spyware retro OS.

[@thepirategamerboy12]

I disagree. I refuse to consider WinXP retro, either.

[@emp.splash]

Wow, RAID 0 on two 10000 rpm hard drives. Was an absolutely outrageous thought back then.

[@ksp1278]

Yep. It was. I had dual 300gb raptors on my PC build back early 2008. It was pretty close to identical to this one in terms of spec. Except I had an nforce 780 motherboard, qx9650 cpu, dual GTS 8800 512 and 8gb RAM. I put Vista on it originally, . It was crazy fast. Since then I have upgraded the GPU to a GTX 970 and it dual boots between XP and Windows 7. The hard drives still work fine after 12 years use! It can still play some modern titles on low settings, but I have a Ryzen for those games. This "beast" PC is for my older games. I LOVE IT.

[@MUSiCK9]

Couple of years later & I still absolutely adore this build, There hasn't been another pc build that made me seriously want to buy and build a pc then this

[@zeza5000]

and this was the first video i watched from LGR.

[@hungryhungryhummer]

The reason your pc wasn’t booting with 2 sticks is because you have them in the wrong slots. Often motherboards won’t boot with the wrong slots. With only 2 slots you use the second and fourth ones from the cpu socket. Plz like this so he sees it.

[@rager7709]

DarthSmartt I can confirm this on my motherboard I had to do this

[@goreobsessed2308]

It's true I learned it the hard way why I couldn't tell you use 2nd and forth slot it will help

[@TheCubsOnly]

This only applies to some motherboards. Read the manual to see where your sticks go, it varies by manufacturer.

[@royalkiller2]

Actually it looked like he forgot to clip the ramm all the way in the first time. You can clearly see the clip isn’t lined up with the empty slots.

[@CreativeTimelapses2hondamax]

nah, im pretty sure its the first and third slots

[@RiskyBRiskyB]

Only Clint would buy a $3.5k pc to play space cadet pinball.

[@jigglypuff52]

3,500 back in the day. It's much cheaper to build now.

[@JollyOldCanuck]

He said he got it for $200 bucks, it would have cost $3500 back in the day.

[@jope5881]

true

[@phrog.4809]

3.5k for this, wow, I can go on Amazon right now and find parts for a RTX 2080 Ti PC under that, even a prebuilt one would be about 2.4k

[@TheDoritoFan80]

@@phrog.4809 3500$ back in 2006/2007. Now 200$

[@TwinkleNZ]

*builds $4k PC* *plays 3d pinball space cadet* Me: Wow I would get that

[@mayravixx25]

If I had the money, I'd do the same too to be honest lol

[@Maccat]

I spent slighty more on my new tower and the day i finished building it my wife claimed it and it is now a business/ cad pc ;'-( Im still using the gaming rig i built in 2009 for this reason.... its amazing it still works being overclocked hard everyday of its life!

[@SteveDaBartender]

@@Maccat why dont you two just trade computers?

[@amirdahan5660]

Wow that is relatable (reference to something)

[@Itisyes22]

*wow*

[@Okla_Soft]

XP was the OS that cemented my passion for PCs and spurred along my knowledge of Windows in general. 98 got the ball rolling as I started going y see the hood a lot on 98, but I distinctly remember being extremely happy about XP when it came out, knowing that it was the first consumer Windows that wasn’t based on Dos. To this day I think my skill set and knowledge of the inner workings of Windows was the strongest during XP. I now find myself as an IT tech once again at a corporate Job, and I’m digging into Windows 10 once again.

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

Haven't quite finished the video yet, but just wanted to say that the one thing about the Core2 Series and what it still has going for it is that it's *narrowly* good enough for most modern use tasks, but completely own it for retro tasks in terms of support and power. I've been considering an LGA775 based Retro system on it for a while, but im not too sure it's time to say goodbye to my PGA478 PC just yet. Now I get to enjoy the rest of the already brilliant video.

[@brokenacoustic]

My computer is an old hp workstation, this summer I upgraded the cpu to a Core2 Extreme QX6700, running windows 10 with 8gb of ram. Cant really game on it except older stuff, but the system works well enough for everything else. I do need some heatsinks on the VRMs though, they get quite a bit warmer with this cpu. (lol my disk drive is also a LightScribe)

[@andrewhamop6665]

Oh hi!

[@ultrasom]

>"but completely own it for retro tasks in terms of support and power. " orly?

[@MarcosCodas]

What's up, Hamish? Good to see you here, bud, haha.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

I love lga 775, it’s my favorite socket.

[@formdusktilldeath]

But does it run... oh it does. I see myself out now...

[@roborobo8370]

does it run pong. its very unoptimized and very slow on my pc

[@deividaskavaliauskas2210]

Odenta yes do you seriously run the computer that ran tennis for two and that space game from the 60’s

[@obamascock2169]

@@deividaskavaliauskas2210 Pong and Spacewar

[@sneekicheeki1840]

Cost back then: $3,588 Cost today: about tree fiddy

[@thescreemregular5168]

Your a man/woman of culture!

[@Andytlp]

play with it like you paid for it. A whole tree fiddy

[@LaurentValette1234]

Yep but still enough in 2020 for 98 % of human beens of this planet....My mother has always my DEL XPS of 2007. I just installed 8 GB RAM and Windows 10 with a Samsung SSD....No difference for internet surfing or office jobs with a Core i9 !

[@crylune]

@@LaurentValette1234 "Core i9" lmao ryzen gang

[@skoda8666]

@@LaurentValette1234 i9? Do you mean throw money on the wind?

[@rougeneon1997]

Man i TOTALLY understand wanting to use older stuff you drooled over back in the day. Im an avid "Old School Stereo" enthusiast and we often do the same thing with stereos in cars. ✌

[@Andy-rr6hz]

Windows XP, A man of culture I see. (sips wine)

[@misteuraxe691]

it was such an awesome OS back in the day. too bad it's pretty useless with modern software.

[@xplinux22]

*tasteful piano and violin Windows login sound plays*

[@yellowblanka6058]

@@misteuraxe691 - IIRC there were definitely some teething issues with XP, though it did eventually become a very solid OS.

[@logicalphallusy2364]

Wine is a Windows emulator. That's the type of wine us Linux users sip on. ;)

[@denniswoycheshen]

@Isaiah Cox yeah it's more integrated than that..... Running the programs more natively than an emulator. Steam is apparently making good strides towards plug and play windows games and programs on Linux. It's pretty interesting, although a little frustrating.

[@matteocristini6221]

LGR makes a video about DOS and windows 95 - I can't remember those I'm still young LGR makes a video about windows XP - heck I'm getting old

[@KairuHakubi]

still using XP now. fuck everyone. nice to know if anything happens I could apparently make a new, better one for not a lotta cash.

[@AGFuzzyPancake]

I was born in 1994 but my parents kept their Windows 95 machine until at least 2003, so I remember it... for being a POS. My brother, sister, and myself literally danced and sang on Christmas day when we opened a Windows XP machine.

[@Wesuwius]

Welcome to the club boyo. Except i started with commodore 64 :P

[@itstheweirdguy]

@@KairuHakubi I don't use XP because I refuse to use insecure and unsupported OS and software. You should be using GNU/Linux if you have this attitude. You can even run 32 bit Windows 10 and run a lot of old apps still, just as well as Win 7 in most cases ;)

[@RickinBaltimore]

PC Build? ✔️ Relaxing smooth jazz? ✔️ LGR Awesomeness? ✔️ Oh yes, my day is made.

[@gabeferreira1609]

Microsoft Windows XP is my favorite operating system in the world. I have a computer at my house that runs windows xp. I also would wish to have a windows xp gaming PC too! Great video man! Love it!

[@segaboy9894]

All this hardware is ancient, but somehow feels far too modern for this channel.😂

[@flintwestwood5920]

Agree. 21st century tech just doesn't create the same sense of nostalgia as the good stuff from the 90s and before.

[@zohan174]

Flint Westwood uhh this hardware was from around 2007 lmao

[@segaboy9894]

@@zohan174 you must not watch a lot of LGR... 😂 The bulk of things on here is from 1993-1997

[@AE86ofMtAkina]

My pc still has a Core 2 Quad lol

[@weirdmindofesh]

Hell, I'm working on an XP gaming machine now, and it seems too new for things...

[@megafonebrad]

Wow! This is actually pretty awesome. I actually also just about finished building a "Retro" 2007-ish Gaming PC That my best friend and I would have had wet dreams about back when we were in school. As my family was pretty poor, I only ever had very old scrapped machines I tried to make the most out of. Essentially the strongest PC I had in high school was a 450Mhz Pentium 2 pared with a ATI Radeon 7000 64MB Graphics Card. I mean, if I could go back in time now and give myself this Retro PC I built now, I'm pretty sure I would have burst into tears. So today, I'm living the dream for my past self. This one's for you high-school me.

[@TheCupRamen]

This windows XP PC is better then my main PC

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

Oof!

[@vipervidsgamingplus5723]

Than not then

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

@@vipervidsgamingplus5723 When your approximately $700 Ryzen 3 retro gaming pc can pwn LGR's Dream $3500 Windows XP machine.

[@californium-2526]

Pentium 4 then! Or Core 2 Duo!

[@goofyahhuncleproductions42069]

maybe its because the OS is Vista? I mean XP is way better than Vista (fastness wise).

[@Alkatross]

What a trip down memory lane. Makes me want to put my xp machine back together. The only game missing was Painkiller

[@kngkeeper]

I totally think that cooling looks excessive... That's why I love it

[@1310up]

Cool your computer, destroy your enemy!

[@sjarken3979]

Its not optimal when it comes to airflow, but it does looks cool, also he placed a fan directly behind the cooler so i think it will be just fine.

[@TheAdatto]

Is a great cooler. Liked the Zalman coolers too in that era

[@Jamie-kg8ig]

Looks like a jet engine, which makes it really cool.

[@montmn]

This dude should do voice overs. I could hear him voicing How It's Made or something.

[@잠깐만요-r7x]

He made me like him instantly... Started with 'greetings', instead of god damn 'hey guys' and moderate, gentle voice is so good

[@myolgiden]

잠시만요

[@alpasel3003]

It's a shame that people sometimes don't know how to react with their audience on youtube, I used to watch gaming videos for commentators some are in Arabic and others in English, and i can say it's a wide spread problem, they all start their videos talking fast and loud, so fast it's like they're running out of time, also, some of them use intros that can go for up to 10-20 seconds, come on I already know the chanel i don't need to see its name flipping on the screen with that annoying free music.

[@Austin.D]

Ok

[@megapimpsword]

Hey austin, this is guys.

[@Neo1HFS]

Content Creator: "Greetings..." :) Me: "Hello" :) vs. Content Creator: "What is up? It's your boy..." XD Me: "I am 100% sure you couldn't care less about "what is up /how are we doing today"... and you are not my boy/pal/homie etc." :l

[@splatink]

Something about building an old-new monster pc looked so good. Modern PC cases miss front panel bays, no CD Drive, no cool sound cards with front panel bays. Their HDD mounts are crap, an afterthought most of the time, since they assume most will use SSDs anyways. Also those 10K RPM drives look so cool, shame we don't have such things and are stuck with generic 7200RPM HDDs, sure their performance is similar and they are new and quiet but something about 10K rpm makes me want 10 of them! Old cases really looked after comfort. Easy to use and well built hard drive cages, lots of modularity for installing DVD drives, and everything else. Modern cases are total crap and are basically only look good (and provide decent airflow at least). Out of all the PC parts I bought, my biggest regret is the NZXT H510. No front mesh (sure it might not make a huge difference in temperatures but its an improvement), stupid AIO mount (said it supports 280mm but only supports 240mm AIOs, ended up hammering the mount to make it fit). And everything is really tight.

[@BobofWOGGLE]

That editing didn't fool me, I know you used the _wrong_ amount of thermal paste.

[@GazelleEdge]

No, LGR used the right amout of thermal paste

[@TheBrokenLife]

I knew he didn't show it, or his technique, just so he wouldn't have 10,000 comments complaining about it. haha

[@nathanhamman418]

Gotta use about a tube and a half or its not enough

[@catherineholmes8423]

A pea sized drop it the middle is more than enough

[@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan]

Haha, I was pretty aware about the cut too. I was asking myself "is he showing it?" - "Nope". Greetings

[@Finchnz]

lol, this is the first time I realised that windows xp install had a sound track.

[@mycophobia]

the first hundred times I reinstalled XP I had to install sound drivers after, but then that 101st time when I had gotten a new natively supported sound card I was like "whoa"

[@Amber57499]

Me too, everytime I installed Windows XP I spent about 6 hours trying to find the audio driver because my sound card never had native support

[@tomazmatko7243]

I installed xp so many times i memorized the 25 characters long key code, but found out about the music just now.

[@Canma890]

holy crap i never knew that 😅🤔

[@dreded7961]

dont feel bad, I installed XP 1000's and 1000's of times(ran a very busy computer shop at the time) and I didnt even know that as we never plugged in speakers until final testing.

[@digital_underground]

Dude, that fan looked like a scaled down model of part of the Even Horizon ship.

[@raphialhebert]

The moment I saw you pull out that motherboard from its packaging I about died of nostalgia. I MISS this motherboard, had one up until about 2012. I also have EVGA's lower end model with the x2 PCI express lanes instead of the higher end x3 lanes. Those boards were awesome mobos for the time, and still hold up today. One of EVGA's last shining stars.

[@susiemangolinie]

High FPS achieved: 3846 Lowest FPS: 1

[@P33b4Ugo5omwh3r3]

Optimization at it's finest...

[@CaesarBest]

You didn't even use a swiss army knife

[@MAIcrosoft]

No allen wrench or tweezers either :D

[@Kepe]

But how on earth did he manage to install the CPU without a CPU installation bracket thingy and such a small amount of thermal paste??? :D

[@thecchrist777cc6]

How did he get it to boot if his RAM isnt next to each other?

[@SarkarMotion]

And the power supply fan wasn't even throttling Get that unforgettable verge video up at my channel!

[@mindaugas49ccm]

And his power supply I mean BRICK did-int zinc short circuit with the system.

[@happysmash27]

1:28: Building ultimate systems from specific eras is fun... kind of for bragging rights. It's nice to have something top-of-the-line in its category or for its era, rather than merely something good enough to work; it's fun to be able to get a system that was once the best money could buy, for a budget that is actually affordable.

[@xddstudiosbywr3cked845]

i'm looking forward to owning a 3090 in 2035 lmao

[@cranbers]

I had this same setup in 2008! Brought back some nestalgia, thanks for the time! Love the channel.

[@Aggrofool]

I spent a fortune on Q6600 + 8800GTX in 2007, and Crysis still fuggin chugged FML

[@phaolo6]

Well, Crysis is just a badly optimized game, despite what the meme assumes :P

[@Rathori]

Hey, I had pretty much the same setup back then, with 8 gigs of RAM :) Ran Crysis at ~25 FPS maxed out.

[@mrsquishyboots]

My first build was in 2008. 7750 black edition athlon dual core. 2.6ghz oc to 3.1 lol. And a lowly ati 4850 512mb.

[@Kepe]

I had a Q6600 + 8800 GTX as well. And yeah, I think Crysis needed medium settings to get 60 fps.

[@111455]

i had a athlon X2 6000+ and a 4850 single slot, you had it better than me till 2010 when i got me a i7 920 and a GTX275

[@daveplummer7344]

Here's a random piece of trivia for you: I wrote Space Cadet Pinball (for XP) and did it on my dual proc 200MHz MIPS (prob an NEC R3000 at the time). I was busy porting/re-writing the shell for Win32 and RISC and we did Space Cadet to "showcase" NT's graphics abilities. So, Space Cadet pinball ran on RISC long before it ran on x86. That's in part because the game engine I started with was x86, so I had to start over in C. How a MIPS dual R3000 or R4000 would compare to your XP build would be interesting... Is it weird that I actually like that heat sync and wish I had it on my current CPU?

[@benrlego]

You built a lot of memories for children around the world, thank you

[@EllTheBob]

did you actually, though, Dave Plummer?

[@ajax700]

Dave: wow, It would be really cool if you want to tell more anecdotes. windows nt is full of peculiar anecdotes like that. Like it was fully posix compliant, etc. etc. What brand/model was the mips workstation? "That's in part because the game engine I started with was x86, so I had to start over in C." x86, is a platform, vs C that is a language. I don't understand that sentence.

[@ajax700]

*Is it weird that I actually like that heat sync and wish I had it on my current CPU?* Not at all, it looks like a very good cooler, even today. Much better than todays oem coolers. Maybe a little too big for some cases to say something negative.

[@CR-mk6ro]

Looked you up. Seems legit though so your cool. Spent hours playing that game, thank you. Lmao

[@joshuakaeble7810]

You've got a great show, man. You have a relaxing aura about you, and the oddball stuff is super fun and nostalgic.

[@DarkSide3211]

1:06 I never knew or even ever have seen a CPU cooler that looked like that. pretty dope

[@Cthooligan]

You didn't show your thermal paste application method. Smart man...

[@nekotj_]

*ahem* Verge *cough*

[@CLK944]

*spy music plays*

[@cheezst8ke]

I loved playing Need for Speed Underground 2 back then. And I loved playing the 3D Space Cadet pinball game too. I got some pretty high scores on that game.

[@magicspiral3323]

I love these LGR videos where he builds something just to honor the fancies of his younger self. That’s what I call integrity!

[@profibamboo]

The Oblivion Theme gave me chills. I loved this game as a kid. Holy.

[@raven4k998]

so buy the parts and build your dream windows xp gaming machine for 200 dollars when it cost over 3500 brand new

[@Clos93]

​@@raven4k998or forget XP all together and just use Windows 10 and GOG. Most popular games that have compatibility issues work in Windows 10 with patches. I have a Dell Vostro pimped out with a modern 12th Gen Intel ITX board, RX 6400, 32gb of Ram. Hooked up to a Dell E770s VGA CRT from 2000. Able to play original Doom, Duke 3D, Crysis, Quake 2 remastered, UT99, Cyberpunk 2077, all on the same PC. Playing Doom Eternal on a CRT at 85hz is glorious!

[@gsilva220]

The late 2000's were an awesome time. Hardware that can still play today's games, the fact that gamers and heavy users were ignoring windows vista and waiting for windows 7, among other things.

[@Jake1702]

It was probably still better to run XP than 7 at the time. The vast majority of games used DX9, not DX10 or DX11, largely so they could run on XP in the first place. If your PC was compatible with XP it might have been a better choice because obviously it would use a lot less resources leaving more available for the games.

[@TechRyze]

Yep - that exact setup would take 8GB RAM easily, and you could then put a modern Nvidia card in, and install Windows 10 on an SSD. That would run most of todays games. An Nvidia 1050 or 1060 would be overkill, but check it out - it'd run loads of todays games a playable framerates. Hint: I've tried this :)

[@ZeeaaQuadri]

Yup, I'm still running an overclocked Q6600 with Windows 10, 120GB SSD, 8GB of RAM, and a 750Ti. Runs most modern games just fine.

[@EposVox]

Ayyyy this is my kind of thing. Good stuff, man.

[@LGR]

Happy to hear it, thanks!

[@DiggOlive]

I forgot about the Windows XP setup music!!!! So chill

[@remakeyourself]

"There's something about vast rows of shining metal fins and piping that never ceases to amuse" - The man is a damn poet.

[@Xanderfied]

Best part of this video, editing that cuts out his method of applying thermal paste. Thank God. Arguments avoided over one of the dumbest things ever. Btw I have the exact same case in storage. Haha

[@mrouw]

That's exactly what I thought when it came to it. Bulled dodged like a pro.

[@kanonenfutter8433]

Nooo. I wanted to see :(

[@NathanChisholm041]

Your meant to apply it like your icing a cake!!

[@papaiswatching]

Fuk man I am crying. Thats all what I was in 2007. You just unfroze me out from 2007. God bless ya

[@ipoopmuffins]

this remains one of my favorite builds on youtube. im fascinated with SLI setups, active cooling chipsets, and odd cpu coolers for some reason.

[@BrucifyMe]

They're things you just don't see anymore. We still get the occasional whacky CPU cooler like the Thermaltake Engine 27, but nothing quite this extreme. At a certain point, with today's high end components, it's either Big Noctua Block or liquid cooling, basically nothing else.

[@SpartanArmy117]

Same, I love this stuff. I'm building out an XP machine now but went with the older Socket 939 circa 2005. It only supports DDR 1 so I'm interested to see my performance in some of these games. Hopefully the lower resolution I'm targeting helps too.

[@YaroKasear]

To be honest, SLI was never and is still not worth it. I know there's a lot of tech KZbinrs who still do it as if it makes that much of a difference, but for the price of two video cards, a cooling solution, and a power supply that can handle it, for at most a 20-25% increase, you can buy ONE single next-generation card that blows away that SLI setup for cheaper. Essentially all SLI does is turn your computer into a space-heater that jacks up your electricity bill for the sake of a MODERATE graphical improvement on a handful of games, not all of which you're likely to have at any given moment. Basically, if you're looking to upgrade your graphics, just upgrade your graphics. Stuff like SLI and CrossFire was always a poorly-executed idea that always usually had half-assed support by most games, if they supported it at all. And of course if you're not a Windows user it's an even greater waste of money as even fewer vendors who made games for non-Windows PCs bothered with SLI support.

[@omgitzanarwhal]

Most tech KZbinrs use SLI because the manufacturers who send them free hardware want them to. Luke from LTT has said the only reason he has 2x 1080s in his personal rig is because ASUS ( Who gave him the GPUs) wanted him to, and he turns one of them off because SLI is a headache.

[@Lemonidas75]

IMO, SLI is only worth it when you have a 2 or 3 generations old card, and you can find a similar one at a decent price and want to squeeze a little bit more performance out of your rig - without spending too much for a new one.

[@AlvaroLR]

I personally run a Crossfirex setup on my main rig, Dual r9 270x's. I bougth the second unit 2 years later at half the price (msi hawk edition), so it's worth it if youre on a budget and you want to use the gpu's as gpgpu's too

[@dstns]

@@AlvaroLR I crossfired a 7870 with a 270X for a while. Overall performance got close to a GTX 970, except for the microstutter and lack of RAM. Eventually upgraded to a 970, and now my wife has the 970 and I've got an RX 480 8GB. Crossfire was crashy and stuttery, it worked but not without its issues. It was a fun experiment though.

[@AlvaroLR]

@@dstns Yeah, that's the point. It's transitory. Also i used to play light games (esports) on one card and gpgpu stuff on the 2nd

[@OSpr4567]

The perfect blend between modern and retro. Great Build.

[@raven4k998]

brings new meaning to the words can it play crysis🤣

[@philipjfrys]

Oh that windows XP loading screen is so nostalgic

[@rtas]

ah, the memories of the windows xp installation theme

[@crippanda6]

Omg yes right when I checked! Can't wait to see how this turns out

[@satina1169]

Just recently replayed the first FEAR games & had a blast. Sad they don't make games like this anymore.

[@Daehawk]

A SpinQ CPU cooler! Im STILL using my original SpinQ. Its the other type that the top end is open. Still glows too. And it keeps my i7 2600k cool at 4.5ghz. Dreams do come true! Glad you got what you wanted.

[@PassiveDestroyer]

My roomate's PC also has a SpinQ cooling a i7 880.

[@CanuckGod]

I've switched to water cooling, but that thing does look like a boss :)

[@endersftd]

You didn't show how you applied the thermal paste. Smart man. :)

[@Cheepchipsable]

He could have used his tweezers.. 🤣

[@maxfactor4209]

smartly clipped out

[@tophatter-qy5rh]

Andy w No, because of the verge’s terrible pc build

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

Windows XP the windows that refuses to die!

[@NoNant55]

no joke, I've only been XP-free since this april

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

@@NoNant55Won't ever be XP free Even if my XP laptop dies I have virtual clone of the hard drive to play with lol.

[@DrAnGeber]

I had XP until 2013. What a great OS

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

@@DrAnGeber Yup it is.

[@PistigriloXP]

I love Windows XP!

[@MarioHerreraTJ]

Cool video man. Lot's of good memories from the time I ran XP and made my own custom XP installations. My first gaming PC build by me, was a AMD 1.1 gigahertz Thunderbird with an Nvidia TNT graphics card. Good times

[@EXPERIMENTONGOD]

Glad to see you got an X-Fi on that machine. I remember getting an X-Fi Elite Pro in 2006! F.E.A.R. was insanely immersive with that card.

[@LucaBlightOfHighland]

Lovely! I have a txt with the list of all the parts of my 2005 win xp "dream pc"... I've writed it in 2005, and still waiting to have the money to assemble it -__-.

[@MsStandart]

This CPU cooler is a monster!

[@theRavePants]

Rewatching this and I like how instead of just putting a floppy drive in there you went through all the steps of creating a custom ISO for XP. That's gold. 🤣🤣

[@dreed100]

Aww... So nostalgic. While this pc would blow away my second xp machine, first one I got with my own money, not my parents, it has tech from around the time I build it in 2006. To play oblivion... Amd 3200 7600gt 1x512mb of ddr1 120gb HDD Later upgraded to 4x512mb ram 4850 2 Samsung 1tb hdd Lasted me till Dec 2013. Rest in peace old friend...

[@benjamingettler4563]

This comment made me more sad than anticipated

[@psivewri]

You upload in 4k 60fps? Damn man! Consider me impressed!

[@Theironlefty]

He uses a Panasonic GH5, so i see no reason to not fully utilize its features.

[@fluffyninja3467]

You gotta see that beautiful beard in 4k, lad.

[@josefpotmesil8278]

He should do 3333 toothpicks in his beard

[@realpunkfruit]

a great computer channel commenting on another great computer channel. niiice

[@nani0001]

I’m pretty sure KZbin only allows up to 4k30

[@ugzz]

Such a great build!! The amount of nostalgia in this video is STAGGERING!! I built a system Very Similar! But i built in probably late 08 early 09, mainly because these parts were $$ at launch. I had an nvidia 680i board, with that same cooling and everything. You actually had to clip on the little fan yourself, and i still have mine in a my spare fan bin! I ran a Lian Li case with removable mobo tray, and a 8800GTS with a Hacked Bios. CPU was q6600 with OCZ ram, back when that was a thing. No raid or raptors, but i did have multiple drives. One of those tornado spiral coolers topped it off, it was all copper whatever it was. Funny thing is though, i didn't actually spend all that much. One because i was about a year or so late to the part, but also Every item i bought was either on ebay, scratch and dent, or on some type of sale. I ran that rig for years with only video card upgrades, probably a few full generations before i moved up.

[@Noaasd]

Could be great to hear the sounds of the fans and the entire machine working, it's quite satisfying to enjoy what you're hearing. Greetings from Chile

[@UNSCPILOT]

An series of LGR Blerbs with him just recording the sounds of his PCs, alike his IBM AT video, would be awesome

[@solcraftdev]

Best WIndows XP Setup (newest parts that officially support windows xp): Intel Core i7-3770k GeForce GTX 780 Ti 500GB SSD Z77 motherboard

[@ManOfAttitudeLP1998]

Ssd isn't supported by Windows XP

[@cm01]

@@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 I thought SSDs' onboard controllers were meant to basically pretend they were hard drives

[@solcraftdev]

@tyurik windows xp isnt supported by anything newer than GeForce 700 series, Radeon HD 7000 series, Intel Ivy Bridge (Core 3000 series), and older FX series and A-series apus.

[@fernandomartin4141]

@@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 Wrong, they work perfectly, provided you have manufacturer's drivers for trim.

[@ManOfAttitudeLP1998]

@@fernandomartin4141 on my laptop it didn't work

[@metfan4l]

Stop it, you're making me want to build a new PC from the ground up again myself :S

[@Yinte_Klop_Blunt666]

Oh shit

[@M3TALLiA1]

Ouh Jeah?

[@michaelhelmut1]

i got multiple Pentium 4 machines and a core 2 quad been waning to build a few mid-late 2000s pcs this solidified it myself just give in its always worth it

[@couchgamingnews9379]

You can build mine

[@wedontgiveasht]

Never thought I'd see you commenting here lol

[@thevirtualnomad7269]

*startup sound intensifies*

[@frazerbrennan9245]

As a fellow wearer of spectacles. I appreciate how clean you keep them.

[@bwanaDavid]

I like how my 3.5 GHz quad core CPU is 86 dollars in 2019, but I'm 2007 a 3.0 GHz 4 core CPU was 1000

[@davidbrooks2476]

You must be talking about a 3200G. I've got a 3600 in my build at the moment, and I've got to say that this unit is nothing less than phenominal. No pun intended.

[@jokerzwild00]

you could have bought a q6600 for less than 200 back then, it was the enthusiast king because it had massive OC potential, 4 cores and a reasonable price. I still have mine running at 3.2ghz in a spare pc.

[@gt362gamer]

For reference, I got my i5 4690k in summer 2015 for a little more than 200 euros. Now you can get 6 cores with that amount. Not bad.

[@AgentTasmania]

My new laptop is a decent bit meaner than my friend’s 4 year old one for about a third of the price. Technology does that

[@Ashquacks]

This era seems like more of a Vista PC than an XP one. When I think ultimate XP machine I usually think back to the early Athlon X2 days.

[@IconOfSin24148]

Damn boss, that stings. Well I had a later X4 965 Black Edition, but that was my main PC till...two months ago. Circa XP/early 7 processor for a decade.

[@irridesu]

I get what you mean, but I think he chose XP for nostalgia/stability because we all know how Vista turned out

[@GrumpyWolfTech]

@@irridesu Vista turned out fine, people who had 10 year old hardware or walmart PCs were the only ones that complained.

[@InvestmentBankr]

@@GrumpyWolfTech no. a thousand times no.

[@ajdzanovic]

@@irridesu i really like vista and i NEVER had issues with it on my toshiba laptop from 2007. vista is my childhood

[@minishthe2nd563]

*puts everything on high settings* Some guy: HO-LY SHIT

[@Pandan3D]

that HOLY SHIT from UT games always gets me laughing

[@goqwertygo]

I played the he'll out of this Tetris PSP homebrew game every time you cleared a Tetris it played the same HOLY SHIT sound. And now I finally know where it came from 😂

[@eggamyer3371]

Back in the day a setup like this was a dream to me.

[@Wi-Fi-El]

I'm not a computer guy, but it's cool watching them be made

[@fortherecord1569]

Windows '98 and Windows XP were the two OS that I delayed as long as I could before I was forced to "upgrade"

[@smugshrug]

now for me it's 7. looks like i still have a few years until stuff stops working.

[@RJSBrothers]

The extended support for Win7 SP1 will end at 14.01.2020. So you have about 1+ year.

[@smugshrug]

i'm talking about software, not support from MS.

[@phonyfelony3935]

Not really if you have win7 pro sp1 it has to 2023.

[@drunkwiizard3483]

Windows 7 > Windows 10. Windows 10 = ass. My point is stay on 7 until it's ripped from your begrudging hands. I've always run windows but Linux looks better and better with every windows iteration.

[@Matt-lp1xp]

Adding raid drivers like that is called "slipstreaming" if anyone cares. I had to do exactly the same thing back in the day

[@ThunderHorsePyro]

I loved this video. I can't even remember how many XP builds I've done in my life and this brought back so many good memories. I still have about seven XP cases and four of them still work. And a whole mess of parts from pre 2010. I hope I get the chance to mess around with them again.

[@ntrg3248]

Life is pointless without Windows XP pinball

[@stevef6392]

I remember it being there in 98!

[@ZipplyZane]

Indeed. Why not install a copy on your modern Windows? www.groovypost.com/howto/windows-7-3d-pinball-space-cadet-game/

[@bossmeep6467]

ME: *Thinking about rtx2080ti price after 15 years ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)*

[@undefishin]

That wink is weird, I never get a squiggly wink like that!

[@soupmactavish67]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@tareqshosho1773]

It jast gna drop little bit like 800$ Thay don't drop any price for new stuff you can get it used from ebay or something but still not gna be cheap like you think its

[@MrSafer]

yea right now the RTX supers actually perform just as good if not better for a cheaper price.

[@Tom2404]

I feel like those new Graphics cards don't fall in price anymore, like at all.

[@joeMW284]

Dude, LGA775 rigs are the the shit! I've been rocking the same motherboard since 2008. Last year I decided to do some much needed upgrading after finding a similarly aged donor computer at Goodwill for $6. From that computer I got 8GB of ram, an nVidia 8800GT and a better power supply. Then, I ordered a C2Q Q9550 off Amazon for $28. I was able to overclock it to 3.71ghz with total stability and it tears through Cinebench at over 400. The whole system totally rips and is completely usable for damn near any task short of modern gaming or video production. With an SSD, Windows 10 boots in mere seconds. Everything is just so snappy and it handles anything I throw at it with ease.

[@joeMW284]

I tried it in the donor computer first. Got to the POST screen no problem. Good enough.

[@Scrofrogoly]

Yea, my Windows XP PSU up and sparked to death just randomly, and the PSU was only 4 years old at the time, no telling the game of a goodwill PSU lol.

[@joeMW284]

Well, I rolled the dice and won. It's been running hard for 9 months so far. The PSU that was in it originally was way more sketchy.

[@joeMW284]

@@hoffer_moment I do get it. I just didn't really care. I would have actually loved to have an excuse to put a new system together.

[@tOSdude]

I've seen a power supply go out in stages and take half a motherboard and a hard drive down with it.