Donald Trump would've been convicted over 2020 election meddling | James O'Brien on LBC

[@johnsteve2377]

As an American I'm both embarrassed and angry at what corruption has done to the US and the world in general. I work with people that come across as generally intelligent but can't see beyond the cult-like curtain that has been drawn in front of them. It's simply mind boggling. Never stop what you're doing...speak the truth regardless.

[@drjamesallen6012]

That cult-like curtain is called “democracy”. Anything for the “democracy” they always chant.

[@Chilavertish]

What is this truth you speak of? Seems like a strange concept

[@EloiseB2025]

I'll most certainly be keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers.

[@maximisatwat]

One sided truth isn't truth

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

He should have been convicted in the senate and barred from running again, but because the republicans are a cult that didn’t happen.

[@applecounty]

The lack of education is central part of the problem. The inability to analyze facts, take a position on any subject.

[@Getonwithit204]

Yeah that's definitely the case here in the UK.

[@jameswatson5807]

No they are educated they just don't care.

[@col.hertford9855]

I know too many educated people who choose not to inform themselves on this and a wide range of topics.

[@susanplatt5331]

We live in a time of information at your fingertips. The problem is misogyny and racism. Insecure men. The people who voted for trump and the rest of the world's magas are either immature, wilfully ignorant or just plain evil.

[@JohnSmith-it6hj]

What choice did people have Harris and Biden are grossly incompetent.

[@seheshehoohlo3420]

"This is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause" - Senator Padme Amidalla of Naboo

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

If a kids sci fi show is how far you ignorantly delved inti the literary canon maybe don't proudly announce so on the internet

[@seheshehoohlo3420]

@@nihilistlivesmatter why not?

[@HappyCodingZX]

@@nihilistlivesmatter 9:53

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@@HappyCodingZX It seems JoB know's his audience are not the most sophisticated.... does he use Harry Potter references too?

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@ Are we moving away from metaphor into an objective true/false binary now?

[@AmandaJAart]

There's something really wrong with a justice system, when the facts are as plain as day, yet 4 years later, the perpetrator hasn't been appropriately dealt with and can't be dealt with now, as he's now in charge of the whole country. What a ridiculous country.

[@simonnorth185]

I totally agree!

[@benjones3466]

Merrick Garland, head of the DOJ, is largely responsible for not allowing federal investigations to go ahead earlier. The delays basically saved Trump from being prosecuted for the 6th Jan riots and the stealing of huge numbers of government documents, including national security information that he was caught dead to rights hiding in unsecured rooms in Mar a Lago.

[@ukulelelab4219]

spot on

[@evelbsstudio]

The problem with the voters in the UK is that they think everything will change overnight when a new government is voted in, when in fact change takes time and the effects of the last government will bee felt for years to come.

[@andyf4292]

and the foreign owned media are banging the drum as hard as they can

[@peterjohnson1091]

People want instant gratification. Fame without talent and effort, for example.

[@StevenGoundry]

People didn't expect it to get worse

[@PorschaTaylor-tc4gx]

Reeves had crashed the economy in 6 months

[@neilstanniland1011]

@@StevenGoundry It depends what you are left with,like after WW2,took years to pay it back,but as a country we were united. We as apprentices in the 50's studied hard and worked long hours and went to night school 2 nights a week,day school once a week.took in the new technologies as they became more relevant.

[@thedahkterizzin8831]

People who would prefer a despot would only want one that is on their side. The brainless haven't thought of the other alternative

[@BrianWhite-x1u]

100% correct

[@harpoonlouis]

No despot ever favored anyone but themselves. Others realise this too late.

[@ryanwilkinson1513]

Famously democracy never leads to bad leaders

[@jitterbug_junior]

​@ryanwilkinson1513 what's that got to do with anything. You're definitely right about the last 14 years of Tory rule

[@ryanwilkinson1513]

@ don’t act as if democracy isn’t despotism w extra steps

[@gosia3037]

Stupidity of the masses is at the core of all evil .

[@Jackie-ji2sj]

Hence, voting Labour in again after the Blair years.

[@pathanlon3028]

Yes, voting in a conservative government after 7 years of austerity cuts, and then voting in two more Conservative governments for another 7 years of austerity cuts.

[@PLl-jr8xi]

I'm guessing you're smarter than everyone else ay?

[@pkkerley6028]

And when the Labour party realize their failings, it may get better.

[@jamjam2833]

Labour voters

[@Sat-Man-Alpha]

The world is going crazy, the people have lost their minds and no one is stopping this mess…..😢

[@CaminoAir]

The voters essentially are supposed to be the last line of defence to avoid terrible leaders/governments, because they are the ones who will suffer the consequences and be least able to avoid them. What has been proven beyond doubt is how easily manipulated, how poorly informed and how lacking in self-awareness we are. We will willingly hand power to incompetents and malignant personalities and we will not learn the lessons from it.

[@GiraffeCrab]

Just like the book of Revalations predicted. The TRUMPet that will herald the arrival ofnthe Anti-Christ has been sounded. We just wait for his arrival.

[@andrewcolleyproperties4211]

@@Sat-Man-Alpha lost their mind? who Joe Biden Now perhaps you would like to suggest why Donald Trump would nt be a better President at least he can talk above the educational standard of a 3 year old

[@rschloch]

@@CaminoAirtechnically, the electoral college is supposed to be the last line of defense. The political parties also had power to deal with trump; but the GOP basically bowed down to his mob. The problem with the 50% of the voters who elected him; they’re either ideologically tied to the GOP through religious dogma, completely ignorant of the politics but still feel compelled to vote, are in the fringe of the political spectrum but have been given a seat at trumps table, or just plain bigoted towards women or people of color. The ignorance wouldn’t bother me if it weren’t for the extremists who now have political power.

[@Caroline-yv5om]

@@CaminoAirI’m not part of this we you mention. Am off as soon as can be sorted, back to Europe.

[@LaurenBies]

As an American, I am so disgusted. I apologize for how other Americans voted for Felon Trump.

[@talithacumi5]

Thank you for being a sane American.

[@milsub59]

I know how you feel.....Johnson.

[@Koi-Politics1916]

Ill informed and ill educated being more interested in talentless celebrities than the state of politics in their country and being able to critically analyse a statement to differentiate a lie from truth. Also this particular matter was exacerbated by Garland being overly obsessed with perception of acting rather than just acting on the facts of the cases.

[@dylanwolf]

People don't care because we are an infantilised society,

[@robotstonka7118]

...by religions, in my opinion.

[@RichWoods23]

@@robotstonka7118 No, by multiple things. Religions are on the way out, slowly but surely, so cannot be the sole cause of whatever is pushing more people to not pause to think, or to balance consequences reasonably, or to simply unplug from politics entirely.

[@skankhunt3624]

It's all about manufactured consent.

[@NicJones-ss9bg]

...and the process continues, day by day, hour by hour.......

[@T9555T]

Its so idiotic. We watched it unfold live. And he even calls those imprisoned, hostages.

[@johnbriggs3916]

Not that he will actually release them, of course.

[@markabrahams2191]

You saw it live and then you saw only what the democrat party wanted you to see .There is video that would not be released by the White House and some that was shown quite early on showing police attacking people , ending the lives of at least 3 civilians . That video also showed what the FBI call "assets" causing damage and encouraging people to be violent . There is also video of people passing out baseball bats from inside the Capitol building . The whole thing was a set up and you have been fooled .

[@daddyilo]

He plays a recording of the “hostages” singing the National Anthem (over the prison phone) before every rally.

[@Veroweithofer]

The younger generation has not witnessed dictatorships. The wall came down 89, everyone who has not experienced that consciously, cannot imagine what it is like to live in a dictatorship.

[@chrisspellman8545]

They're to busy watching tick tock videos 😂

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

​@chrisspellman8545 It is also where they get their news on politics and politicians.

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

A lot of Americans don't own a passport and have never been outside The US. There's only a connection to the rest of the world via media and school. That's not helping either.

[@lenroddis5933]

@@charisma-hornum-fries So, your two weeks in Spain tells you what about Spain? Despite living in one foreign country for 15 years, I'd hesitate to say that I understand what that country is all about.

[@Tizzy-s9g]

Most of the people in the UK have never experienced life when their nation is involved in a World War, and have no idea what it would be like to live in a country where your freedom and everything you hold dear could be lost.

[@clarence_claymore.]

Like free speech

[@daftgowk1]

My grandad helped raise me and he only told one story, horrifying. The English betrayal by embracing fascism, brexit, hundreds of thousands left to needlessly expire, are things i can never forgive.

[@dt3460]

We're getting a decent idea since last July.

[@dannynaylor5485]

@@Tizzy-s9g you don't need to experience war to feel that way.

[@uniquevideosUk]

My uncle told me all about is time, his battle in WW2, the men we lost to sea fishing, we have parts of the country that have never progressed throughout time, mostly Labour held areas, so I beg to differ that ppl don't understand history! I mean privileged James definitely doesn't get it.

[@Wallydogg-n7l]

The problem with modern democracy is that ‘career politicians’ are more concerned with being reelected in 4 years time than doing what is right for their country.

[@centurionzen1005]

"Joe Biden has served our country with honor and dignity. As the first president to ever walk on a picket line with striking workers, he has been the most pro-working class president in modern American history. Thank you, Mr. President, for all you’ve done."- Bernie Sanders But sure, tell me there's no difference between the two parties🙄

[@cmasseylynch]

yes yes

[@MichealHarris-il6zi]

💯

[@JohnPark-xf2gq]

Biden let himself down badly in his last two years with his support for the actions of the right with isreally goverment and 😊his arrogance that he was the best candidate against Trump.his only defence was his mental state.

[@jrsydvl7218]

The issue arises when enough voters want solutions that hinder the country.

[@michaelmccarthy9411]

These people are effectively saying that they would have liked a Saddam Hussein or an Assad or even a Kim Jong Un!! Really?

[@chrisspellman8545]

Yeah because they know nothing about anything 😢

[@NicJones-ss9bg]

With all due respect, you may be wrongly assuming that they've heard of such individuals.

[@michaelmccarthy9411]

@NicJones-ss9bg fair enough

[@JulietSierraUK]

"Peter is real and he's allowed to use scissors" 🤣🤣

[@Koi-Politics1916]

But not without supervision!

[@TheWorldsEnd66]

What people don’t get, as is evident in history, that a popular despot will not protect the vast majority who backed that person for Office.

[@Deanfilms-s7m]

Well said. I have already accepted that the next few years are going to be totally bad for everyone.

[@gcinizwidlamini406]

Not for everyone only the lefties which have TDS😂😂😂😂

[@vencik_krpo]

@@gcinizwidlamini406 You don't even realise what these comments tell us about you, do you? Especially the rows of emoji. You actually think it's brilliant.

[@keirmitchell5560]

back on that unicorn you go

[@ziggy007mousecatcher]

Not for the rich!

[@JRS-JRS-JRS]

In what dimension have you been living in the last 4year

[@johnnyberry7786]

A strong leader in a democratic government is not afraid of elections.

[@erinamiss2118]

You can't claim that while having a press that actually are complicit in lying and spreading lies continually. Alternative facts are lies.

[@lindakelley2676]

The 187 minutes he refused to do anything as police were being beaten and Congress was threatened says it all. He should have been in prison on Jan 7. 2021.

[@Cookie20212]

Crazy times we live in..

[@MichaelReaddin]

The American Constitution does NOT explicitly forbid the prosecution of a sitting President. Every decision to NOT prosecute has been based on a DOJ memo.

[@dfuher968]

And a politically partisan Supreme Court, which the Republicans have spent 50 years of lazer focus to capture, openly stating their aim, while Democrats and all other voters except ultra partisan Republicans ignored it. They brought this on themselves.

[@Cookie20212]

Cowards!!

[@BasilBeaton]

Many highly intelligent people predicted what would happen if capitalism, individualism and "the market" were allowed to let rip. Immense wealth funnelled to an ever-smaller group of people, who then use that wealth to convince the masses to vote for their own immiseration and indenturement.

[@dfuher968]

The US doesnt have capitalism, they havent had it for many years. They failed to regulate it and keep it healthy, instead they let it mutate into a monster, that no longer meets the definition of capitalism. All through exreme shortsighted thinking, just like with climate change, where theyre STILL denying it, even as their country is being ravaged by the effects.

[@johntamplin4214]

It just shows how shallow a large portion of Americans are!

[@roscomac9275]

Not only Americans I'm afraid.....

[@robotstonka7118]

Morally bankrupt.

[@rogerfagg3927]

And there we were believing that no one is above the law, how naive we have been proven to be!

[@bogstandardash3751]

The recently pardoned hunter biden certainly is.

[@markabrahams2191]

That is true , look at how many of his people Biden is looking to give a pardon to . Those are people who supposedly have done nothing wrong to be pardoned for .

[@bensbarbaro6021]

some people still sing "this land is your land"

[@FlatToRentUK]

The slightest bit of scrutiny should have told you that wasn't true before Trump. But certainly this is the most blatant situation I've ever seen. Trying to steal an election and inciting a riot that led to the deaths of at least 5 people. Zero punishment. That's without mentioning the classified documents and 34 convictions over the hush money payments.

[@dworkin7110]

@@bogstandardash3751 Agreed and it is absolutely ridiculous that a President has this kind of power. However I suspect that if he hadn't have been pardoned he wouldn't have been treated well/fairly under the Trump administration. Biden took the only option available to him which I suspect many of us would take in the same circumstances.

[@JelMain]

They never had to face active despotism.

[@GoogleSnakeee]

as someone in gen z i believe democracy is the only way to run a country

[@Kk36276]

😂😂😂😂😂🤡

[@guyplessier7935]

Let the people vote on wether the death penalty should be returned, after all you believe in a democracy 😮

[@markabrahams2191]

Democracy is an illusion perpetuated by the political establishment . It is supposed to be implemented by those politicians we elect to represent us . Once a party is elected that goes out of the window , and they go into parliament and do what they are are told by their party for purely political reasons , not because it is the wish of their voters .

[@Rebel4life5009]

As generation X, I do too

[@Rebel4life5009]

@@Kk36276I wonder what is funny here?

[@naoarte808]

If America didn't convict him, then they deserve him.

[@johnosullivan675]

Agreed, but does the rest of the world deserve him? Does Ukraine and Gaza and Canada and Mexico and Panama and Greenland deserve him?

[@naoarte808]

@@johnosullivan675 This is severe enough to reconsider the special relationship, for sure.

[@michaelkeene4708]

​, I would have nothing to do with them,I would deal with commonwealth countries and Europe 🇬🇧

[@naoarte808]

@ hopefully, it will be the government’s poll-tax moment if they kowtow to America for the foreseeable.

[@dorkangel1076]

They convicted him on any case that made it to trial. The others were all sabotaged and delayed until time ran out.

[@sofisa11]

Right now, young people in the USA are more devastated by the possibility of losing Tik-tok than Trump becoming the first convicted felon president. 😕

[@traceyfullbrook1740]

He (Trump) admitted at a rally that “I am in trouble if you don’t vote for me”

[@daviedocherty5894]

Total nonsense i hope o Brian gets a law suit for his blatant lies

[@CinemaMack]

He also said, "I don't care about you. I only want your vote."

[@pc01]

He also said “I love the uneducated”

[@adamtovey8721]

4 years he was out of office. They had plenty of time to convicted him. Wheels of justice need to hurry up or people like this absolute melt get back in

[@daverigby23]

A question for anyone, of any age; name one dictatorship which ended well

[@susanplatt5331]

Well, they all ended Well. It's just the war it takes to reach that end that isn't great.

[@dannynaylor5485]

China isn't doing too bad 😅

[@BobBrereton-o2k]

@@dannynaylor5485Even Hong Kong?

[@bluestar6879]

Well, Franco's Spain ended reasonably well. The guy died of old age and Spain then became a democracy ! Mind you - they had to suffer Franco's dictatorship for 30 years.

[@clarence_claymore.]

Same one socialist state that ended well

[@stephenkgordon6856]

We definitely use more people like you. James o'brien. Great analysis and a keen sharp sense of humor.

[@EtiosaKay]

It feels like people have stopped believing in the concept of evil or the inherent risks of centralized power. Anytime you mention socialism or communism, the response is, “Oh, that’s utopian,” as if striving for systemic change is naïve. But then those same people turn around and put blind faith in markets correcting themselves or in a “strong leader” cutting through bureaucracy. It’s maddening because it feels like logic has left the building. History has shown time and again that centralized power-whether in markets or dictatorships-doesn't just fail; it often becomes a breeding ground for corruption and abuse. What’s driving me crazy, is this alarming trend of younger people actively favoring authoritarianism over democracy. They see democracy’s flaws, and instead of working to fix them, they decide, “You know who should rule? The very arsonists who set the institutions on fire in the first place.” How does this logic even work? Why would anyone think that those who thrive on destruction have the tools-or even the desire-to build anything better? It’s like authoritarianism is the ultimate lunacy machine. It burns down systems, blames the wreckage on those systems’ supposed weaknesses, and then swoops in, claiming, “Only I can fix this.” And people buy it! They see the chaos, and instead of blaming the ones who started the fire, they hand them the keys to the kingdom. Every single time centralized power is unchecked, it ends in exploitation, suffering, and collapse. The idea that a market can self-correct or that a dictator will act in anyone’s best interest but their own is beyond naive-it’s delusional.

[@centurionzen1005]

You see, socialists we're disappointed that america wasn't actually a capitalist distopia under Joe Biden, so they helped let trump win.

[@sueburgess847]

He should be in the jailhouse. He's getting the White House instead.

[@bluestar6879]

Well if he was convicted, he would just pardon himself inside the Jail and leave to the WH.

[@ivonkabrowne57]

Same like Biden pardoned his son and rest of company ?​@bluestar6879

[@SoulRocketMan]

Kamala unburdened Trump. What a generous lady.

[@OilCanHarry2U]

@@bluestar6879correct.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

We must NEVER STOP talking about the spectre of Fascism, which is no longer looming. Like an elephant 🐘, it's IN THE ROOM 😮.

[@justthinking9026]

Judge cannon accounts for many delays Totally in trumps pocket

[@andyh3873]

Agreed

[@dorkangel1076]

Yup. Continually made bonkers rulings which were all overturned on appeal but ran down the clock. Then one of the republican supreme court justices passed her a note with an excuse she could dismiss the cases with. This would also likely have been over-ruled on appeal but by then it was too late as Trump got elected and could just instruct the DOJ to drop the cases. What Jack Smith is doing now is attempted to preserve the evidence for posterity before Trump can make it disappear forever.

[@FlatToRentUK]

Utterly corrupt. Farcical decisions purely to delay his inevitable conviction. But still not as bad as Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, etc...

[@redemptivepete]

Why did it take 4 years to get this far? The wheels of justice were allowed to grind so slowly that the world will have to pay a grievous price!

[@MrFunkinPure]

Because “I’m not interested in politics!…..” They’re largely just as the Republicans and Tories want them. Dimly lit.

[@phillipliggins1549]

Oh how the arrogant far left like to label anyone who doesn't agree with their narrative 'dimly lit'. You'll be suggesting that only those with 'a suitable (as deemed by the far left metropolitan elite) academic attainment should be able to vote. Oh how they would love to implement that - newsflash its not going to hapoen.

[@andydee1304]

When people say 'Orwellian', I think they often mean 'Stalinist'. Trumpism and Stalinism are pretty much the same thing, expect Stalin dressed better.

[@centurionzen1005]

Very true m8

[@martynaustin8073]

​@@centurionzen1005No, I think they mean Orwellian...

[@centurionzen1005]

@@martynaustin8073 I was agreeing with andydee XD

[@vj6024]

For many Americans, sadly the Earth is flat.

[@dayegilharno4988]

Greed and stupidity. The more "financially saturated" parts of society being quite happy to sell out to anybody promising them even just a little bit more of the same is a tale as old as time...

[@dayegilharno4988]

...and "manufactured dissent", obv

[@johnholmes5674]

Don’t you just love being poor, rather than the opportunity of being wealthy. Socialism leaves EVERYONE poor except those in power.

[@markthomas2577]

..... and many of the poor are happy to sell out for more racism, xenophobia and whipped up hatred of the middle class professions (ie the woke).

[@Relugus]

To paraphrase Londo Mollari, "greed and stupidity in one package, how efficient of you."

[@centurionzen1005]

You see, socialists we're disappointed that america wasn't actually a capitalist distopia under Joe Biden, so they helped let trump win.

[@Fredric_Cedrich]

It’s more a reflection of the cowardice of the judiciary - not just in the US but here too. The amount of times a celebrity or public figure has done a crime & gotten of much lighter than if they were a pleb.

[@two20john]

But the people of the US, the World's policeman, have no trouble voting for him.

[@ChristopherNolan-p7g]

Actually the majority of(slim) of the people who voted did. As a percentage of the overall population of people living in America (legally) absolutely not. Remember all the foreigners who have valid green cards were not allowed to vote. I would invite you to speculate just how many of these "foreigners" would actually vote for him.

[@RumpoleoftheBailey]

Trump only ran for presidency to avoid jail. The classified documents legal case was an absolute slam dunk for the prosecution.

[@alanshaw390]

Land of the free…if you’re the president.

[@helengraves7850]

Yank here. I care a very very great deal, and feel like I'm living in a nightmare every day. But there is essentially nothing I can do about it.

[@mrpibbsdotcom]

The United States of Impunity. It’s time they removed ‘and justice for all’ from the Pledge of Allegiance as those words are meaningless today.

[@jamesallison9662]

We all watched it on TV. With our own eyes. There is NO DOUBT what happened.

[@willywonka4690]

James, you are the best person and best commentator on LBC. Please, never stop doing what you’re doing. Much ❤ from the USA

[@shanghaichica]

Now he’s going to get away with it. Oh well.

[@drapedblack7517]

It looks like Trump will be able achieve peace in both the Middle East and Ukraine, so it might be for the best 😄

[@megannehover]

@@drapedblack7517 Remember when you were a child and you were forced to stop fighting/arguing by a threat by someone in authority? The fighting/arguing stopped but nothing was resolved and the problem returned later, intensified by nursed grudges? Trump may stop the fighting but he won't bring peace.

[@1porter]

@@drapedblack7517 What exactly are you basing that completely ridiculous assertion on?

[@Cifford-n6l]

Abraham accords​@@megannehover

[@michelllepierce9701]

United States another laughing stock the people that voted for him don't really understand that prices will be nearly double if not tripled. He's only getting millionaires and billionaires in his cabinet. Cuz I already started talking about his tax cuts for the rich. I want the people to depend on an affordable Care act or help with food which I bet 80% on the system now.v

[@colettemcdermott5677]

In the US, the dollar in your pocket is the ONLY thing that matters. If having morals made more dollars then not, then the US might be in a better position than it is now.

[@GingerBuffalo]

The US constitution does not explicitly forbid the prosecution of a sitting president. The Department of Justice cite a memo a past AG issued decades ago saying that sitting presidents shouldn't be indicted.

[@magansingodia8511]

Best description morally bankrupt

[@acrodave9287]

Only weak people need strong leaders, and for 'strong' read 'violently cruel and oppressive to everybody but the weak people themselves'.

[@peterjohnson1091]

Well, this is what you get if you care more about the price of eggs than democracy and the rule of law. Enjoy your omelette and ignore the internment camps.

[@alasdairgood3929]

Some people are so uninformed it is beyond belief.

[@user-ca3sp7er1h]

Why has the 14th amendment section 3 not been implemented to prevent Dump from running for the presidency ?

[@JamesGraham-f7y]

Why was he not convicted? Was 4 years not enough time?

[@blockaholic]

Indifference is the problem once again. We sit and obese, watching the world burned down to its core of Fire and Evol.

[@OhNoNotFrank]

He will try again in four years.

[@barbarahesford5061]

I've always thought Trump ran for office to avoid jail. Can he be prosecuted when he leaves office?

[@msudlp]

Trump can not be prosecuted after he leaves office. The Supreme Court gave him immunity. I'm not sure it's worth trying because the Supreme Court gave a very thin explanation of what acts are protected and what is not. This means any evidence can be challenged and will be determined admissible only by the conservative Supreme Court. That means the DOJ would have to invest a lot of time and resources to prosecute a man who is no longer in power and can't go back into power. History will be the final judge of Trump, and perhaps that is appropriate. Trump wants to be remembered as a great leader. If history has a different opinion, that will hurt Trump more than any prison ever could.

[@FlatToRentUK]

He can be. He won't be. There's a fair chance he won't make it to 2028 anyway and there's no justification for prosecuting a very old man who's clearly losing it upstairs already. It's not happening.

[@georgeryan3310]

No one who wants a despot has a clue about the reality and consequences of such a thing,

[@stevenglover901]

And this crook is pulling Farages strings!

[@adamadams9517]

It's the same group. They control them all.

[@georgec7899]

Another Grifter

[@clarence_claymore.]

@adamadams9517the wef ?

[@stevenglover901]

Once a crook always a crook!

[@Relugus]

​@adamadams9517 The real globalists are the oligarchs and demagogues like Musk, Trump, Zuckerberg, Meloni, Farage, Bezos, Orban, etc.

[@frankbarrie6785]

The judge was so incredibly bias during this whole thing it's crazy.. they were a trump appointed judge and held water for him during the whole case

[@andrewrobinson2565]

The alternative fact is that it must be possible to move somewhere where none of this is important. 😢

[@handlaidtracksand3dprinted922]

People who accept they are powerless and thus give up and just stop caring.

[@thediddymen1408]

Trump should be in jail for a number of crimes !!

[@dannynaylor5485]

But he isn't 😂😂😂

[@markabrahams2191]

Can you give a list of those crimes that have legitimately been prosecuted .

[@thediddymen1408]

@ Oh, by the way, Happy 10th Birthday....

[@dannynaylor5485]

@@thediddymen1408 where's the cake?

[@MijinLaw]

I spent months, years, trying to debunk the maga disinformation. Americans clearly didn't listen to people like me. So why continue now in the same vein? The best thing to do now is rest, reflect and prepare for the inevitable battles to come.

[@basketballsteve54]

James in that third group that you talk about, the people that don't care, you have a significant number of people (the most in American history i believe) who are actual nihilists and it's those people that worry me.

[@Rome372]

In our democracy justice system we will always ‘ behind’ the purpetrator

[@haroldmorrow3641]

You and me both don’t understand it. Fox News cheers Trump.

[@martingilmovitch8133]

What is a shocking Irony is dropping prices being the largest element of getting the Trumper voted in, while the rest that didn't vote for him know that he is more likely to raise prices!

[@chrisspellman8545]

Yeah but they'll find a way to blame it on the Democrats 😂

[@ACameronUK]

I think because most of his supporters don’t believe the charges against him were justified in the first place - so the fact that we learn now that he probably would have been convicted, means nothing to them. A great many people don’t believe that January 6th was as serious a threat as it was, or even further believe it was one of these false flag events people are always talking about. I really do believe we’ve gone beyond “truth” at this point, all that matters is who is shouting their “version” of reality loudest at any given point.

[@antonycharnock2993]

I find it more disturbing that someone under investigation is allowed to stand for president in the US. But hey money talks.

[@chriswills9437]

Didnt we try this in the 1930s...?

[@chrisspellman8545]

They've obviously never heard the saying absolute power corrupts😢

[@JuliePGUK]

It's all very 1930's, round and round in circles making the same mistakes.

[@jakefowler8522]

They had 4/5 years to get him. They failed. Shame.

[@patricktaylor9202]

That is because their faces are stuck to the phone screen. They do not know the truth because everything is sent to them and some believe without questioning.

[@rui569]

Nobody cares till they care. A lot.

[@tarquinmerryweather4929]

"The truth doesn't matter, only victory!" . A familiar quote in 1930s Germany! People in U.S. Can't do arithmetic!

[@williamwebster4285]

Shemima Begum not convicted of any crime, banned from Britain. Donald Trump guilty of multiple crimes will get another state visit.

[@sallybryant764]

I sincerely hope not! I'd be livid 😡

[@F_Elon]

Both should be banned especially trump with his criminal intentions

[@Dalila998]

Merci ! ! 👍 "More terrifying than the sound of boots: the silence of slippers" (Max Frish) . Friendship from France. !

[@RedJadeArt]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="41">0:41</a> the problem isn’t the effectiveness of despots, the problem is the failure of the last few democratically elected governments. Like who couldn’t sit through 14 years of Tory austerity and seen cuts to living standards, the economy stagnating, and our lives just generally getting worse and think “well this is the best government for us”. Did these governments really do their best to protect people from the 2008 recession, or from Covid? And the same really goes for America as well, Obama did not handle the 2008 recession that well, he didn’t deliver on healthcare, didn’t deliver a bunch of things honestly.

[@JelMain]

One in five says four in five think otherwise. Shock jockery at its worst.

[@matthewn1805]

Not heard of Obamacare? I know many Americans hate it as Trump told them too, but are shocked when told Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act are one and the same as they love the Affordable Care Act .

[@JelMain]

@@matthewn1805 I no longer care. If you bust it, you fix it or live with the consequences.

[@RedJadeArt]

@ it wasn’t what was promised, though, which was Medicare for all. Obamacare didnt go far enough. Biden also promised the public option, which also didn’t go far enough, but even as a further cut down version of Medicare for all, it didn’t get done either. And then Kamala Harris just promised to expand Medicare down for seniors a bit - another option which steps further back, and now we’re not even going to find out if she was going to break that promise, because Americans got sick of this dance of “promise less, do less” We’re at the point where the guy who literally assassinated a healthcare ceo is getting a +22 approval rating. Everyone can see what the problem is, but the American government is too corrupt, and too addicted to private healthcare money to fix it. To my mind, that puts us in a state of despotism right now. Never mind anything trump does.

[@matthewn1805]

@ Means you want to believe the lies and then go into denial when shown the truth.

[@pappywinston]

❤ frim Pennsylvania USA. Love the show. Fantastic journalism. If we had journalism like this here maybe we wouldn't be a laughing stock.

[@pappywinston]

From. See America is last in education 😂

[@pappywinston]

From. See our education is horrible 😂

[@zaphod22]

Some people don't care simply because they are temporary, just passing through on the way to infinity. 🤔

[@davetdowell]

There is no 'infinity'.

[@rocklandstone5475]

There's another group. Opportunists.

[@BeepBoos]

James, the other day you said Hold on to the truth so we don’t go mad. Thanks for that and please don’t stop talking about what we all saw happen. ❤

[@danielmikula1375]

I think the part that James is missing is that America has two institutionalist, liberal, pro-business parties. When Trump came along, despite also being strongly pro-business himself, he was able to get both parties to establish that he's different from both of them. There are a lot of people who feel like they're stuck in a political system that ignores and marginalizes them as things deteriorate, and Trump was able to convince people he's somehow different. Granted, he is: he's a more authoritarian Republican, but such is the desperation for change that people will cling to that vain hope that somehow things will be better under an unabashed autocrat.

[@section8s]

I’m moving towards the third group from the second, people deserve the idiots they voted for. Hopefully I have the ability to move somewhere safer, this is not going to end well. I now look at Trump and Brexit voters as lemming!

[@bishwatntl]

Truth is negotiable, as is justice. History is written by the winners. Take your pick.

[@stephenwise2735]

The third group who will only care when it's too late.

[@col.hertford9855]

When it affects them more like. Which will likely be way after it was too late.

[@paulash1000]

Look out the window if you have one in your office and the dozens upon dozens of people milling about outside are the large chunk of the masses who couldn’t care less. They’re the ones who shrug their shoulders and move on. 😞

[@dinoOvranic]

A few days ago, everyone was discussing grooming gangs non-stop, but now that a former Labuor MP, Ivor Caplin, has been arrested, it seems like no one is saying anything about it. What’s going on? LBC,BBC,CNN ect.. 🤔

[@Getonwithit204]

*Labour. It's already been discussed.

[@dinoOvranic]

​@@Getonwithit204Thanks for pointing that out! English isn't my first language. Can you please remind me where this was talked about? I've only seen articles on Yahoo, Times of India, and National Scot, but none of the major news outlets have mentioned his arrest. I just found out that he was released on bail, and that's all I know.

[@nellsmc8977]

A Labour MP who was key in ousting Corbyn.

[@mocko9912]

​@dinoOvranic christ I've seen everywhere for the last 2 weeks 😂😂

[@susanplatt5331]

What's the point of continually talking about the same thing, having enquiry after enquiry but not taking action. That's the tory way.

[@alanwilkinson4080]

Thanks, James. I'm grappling with a sense of despair that's clouding my perspective and happiness. I now see politics as a sliding, linear scale, with the truly socially minded on one end and the completely selfish on the other. The sole 'vagary ' is the degree of ignorance, whether implicit or engineered, which impacts where people fall on this scale...

[@jasonregimbal-kung6154]

IMO (not an American) I think it may be because they didn't punish him. The people in charge saw political gain in not punishing him so the populace didn't see him or Jan 6 as being that bad. They trust their system, so if he wasn't punished for being impeached or inciting an insurrection or retaining documents, then it wasn't a big deal. Americans are always told how exceptional their country is. How different their history is from every other country, how the guardrails will always protect him. How the different branches are so great and absolute. So if nothing happens to Trump then, surely, it was all just hot air. Just like he and the right-wing media, and their own politicians, say. Alternative facts is a very real thing. It's not just a guy looking to crank websites or something. It's when the media, and politicians, and private enterprises all work together to promote a lie. And that's what happened. Tucker Carlson selectively took footage of Jan 6 provided to him by someone (I forget who) in the justice department that made it look like no big deal. Republicans failed to hold their own to account. Even Dems declined to hold Trump to account when pressed. Everybody gave him break after break. The result to the casual is may make it seem that, yes, it was just a witch hunt.

[@JayneDay-e7t]

Yes he should and should not have been allowed to run for President this time!

[@joachim5080]

Your answer: fox news

[@marinamavrogenis4381]

I believe the lack of education is severely affecting brain development. I'm not being crass, but too many people are unable to think critically.

[@courgette3401]

I do hope Trump won’t be able to come to the uk during his term. I will be out with banners if he is allowed

[@nickmarshall9192]

What will the banners say?

[@jacktennant8076]

@@nickmarshall9192whatever his crayons allow him to write