LCP Max vs Glock G42 - A Comparison

[@neiljohnson6815]

Come on Glock, make a G42 with a 10 or 12 round flush fit magazine. You could call it the 42X.

[@Th3BaconNation]

I'm going to guess you mean a double stack micro compact. Glock already makes at least 2 double stack 380s in the style of the 26 and 17, but they are just not available in the states. I'd settle for the 380 version of the 26, but I'd for sure like anybody who currently makes a micro double stack 9mm to do a micro double stack 380 in whatever they currently offer.

[@whoknows8678]

Nah, a 42X would be just like the 43X. Glock would take the easiest and least effort way out and just make the grip longer. That's what they did with the 43X after SIG spanked their ass later with the smaller and higher capacity P365. To get the same 10rd capacity, Glock just made the grip and mag longer and shit out the 43X. Real innovative...not...

[@rwally192]

Good vid, been looking for this comparison. You're the first person on the internet to do this.

[@curte6062]

Would love to see Glock make a double stack 380 the same size as this.

[@troytruong8246]

Ill pay $600 for if it comes out!!!

[@Gieszkanne]

What about the G28 ?

[@Opiemus]

I can buy a Glock 42 for $349 right now and I looked at them and thought they were great initially but they are a little too big for pocket carry. I just went out and got a LCP Max because that's what I like to pocket carry and I got a j&j leather wallet holster which conceals it very nicely in my front pocket. Previously I've been carrying a Kel-Tec P3AT for over 10 years and it served me well, so much so that I still have it. My sentiment is that the best pistol is the one that you have with you all of the time. I've got a glock 43x that sits home because I don't like to carry on my waistband either inside or outside. The Ruger LCP Max is almost the same dimensions as my Kel-Tec and just a bit heavier but it pocket carries very well. 👍

[@saltwatersaddletramp7229]

I carry my G42 everyday. It has night sights and Pierce Grips plus one extension so it holds eight total. However, G42 mags are very small and an extra mag fits neatly in the coin pocket of my jeans. I do like the LCP Max and will certainly buy one. I’ve been very happy with my G42.

[@Th3BaconNation]

The G42 is one when I got it years ago I wanted to hate it. I used to shit on Glocks like people shit on high point. I finally decided that with as much shit as I talked I needed to at least buy one so I had some reference point when arguing with people on the internet. So I buy one on sale for like $399. Shortly before I had bought a Ruger LCR 22WMR. We go to range all giddy. Not only is it new gun weekend, but its double word score two new gun weekend. I thought the LCR was going to be the bee's knees. I'm a fan of 22WMR, and had visions of this LCR being my version of the noisy cricket. I have a Automag II, which is both epic loud and has epic muzzle flash, so I thought how could this LCR not be at least as good in that regard. Boy was I wrong. Not only was it epic let down in both the loudness and the muzzle flash dept, but it also had what I consider the worlds worst trigger. I wanted to love that gun, and it ended up in the hate bucket. As fate would have it we then shoot the G42, and not only does it work, but i'll be damned but I kinda like it. One thing I really liked on that hateful LCR was the hogue grip, so I go home from the range and see if maybe I can get a hogue grip for the G42, and it turned out I could. The rest is history. Now we're like PB&J, only with some nice night sights and that hogue grip. Best $399 I've spent so far.

[@troytruong8246]

Same. Been cc my g42 when it first came out. I gave my brand new p365 to my brother and keep my g42. I hate pocket carry. Not tactical or practical. Lcp max seems like an awesome micro .380. Im keeping my g42.

[@colt10mmsecurity68]

I own both. But I’m much more accurate with the Glock and I too much rather shoot the Glock than the LCP Max at the range. I also prefer carrying the Glock 42 over my new Max gun. 6+1 plus two spare magazines in the pocket doesn’t bother me at all. Also, Glock did have some design issues with the first batches of 42’s that initially came out. Since 2018, they have redesigned some internal parts and resolved the issues of subsequent guns. I have two post 2018 models and love them! They’ve never failed and I’ve fed them both close to 2,000 rounds each! Here’s an abbreviated article I wrote for a law enforcement magazine a while back, listing the changes Glock made in the newer 42’s: Glock 42 improved factory changes: As of late 2018, G42 redesigned magazines are now series “03.” Also, the newer G42’s (late 2018) have changed the internals with newly redesigned parts that gave some users reliability “issues.” Specifically three components have been redesigned: First is the biggest culprit that gave most of the problems with the 42 and that is the slide stop. It’s been redesigned not to physically make contact with the bullet protruding forward, beyond the top forward lip of the magazine. The older design was actually touching the tip of a bullet in the magazine and that caused huge feeding and reliability problems with the weapon. On the new slide stop part, it is stamped with an added “-1,” immediately following the part number engraved on it. Second is the trigger mechanism housing (TMH), which also now has the “-1” designator stamped on it adjacent to the part number as well. Last is the frame of the gun next to the trigger, which also has a “1” stamped into it, indicating the latest slightly redesigned internals of the frame. These are the changes one can actually see upon close inspection of a disassembled G42. Glock added this stamped numbering reference into the actual named above parts with all of the the latest redesigned G42 model from the factory. I looked for these changes at my FFL dealer when I bought my newest (2019) G42’s. You can see the “1” stamped on the right side of the frame looking down by where the trigger bar connects to the trigger mechanism. The other parts can’t be viewed so easily unless you fully disassemble the gun beyond “field stripping.” But no dealer will allow you to do that. If your new 42 comes with the “03” stamped magazines (back of the mag near the bottom of the bullet “windows”), you’ll know you have the latest and redesigned G42. The LATEST model Glock 42’s eat all the ammo you feed through it and without a hitch. However theres always one caveat where that occasional “lemon” is still produced for some reason or another and no matter the product (car, boat, tools, appliance, firearm). This is why I NEVER buy the first year model of “anything.” I always wait a year or two for the bugs to get worked out. Whether it be new cars, to new electronics to new guns, one should always WAIT a while before buying a brand new model and until the factory can work out some minor design flaw issues. In conclusion, the newest G42’s on dealer shelves these days are “nearly” flawless in form, function and reliability (with new quality factory ammo). I say “nearly” because I’ve never ever seen a small pocket semi-auto gun in .380, nor any caliber for that matter, that doesn’t have an occasional quirk of a malfunction. If you’re still experiencing issues with your 42, and you’ve switched ammo and magazines to no avail, then I’d send the gun and all the magazines back to Glock. Include a letter explaining the issue. Be forewarned that if you have ANY aftermarket parts in either the gun or factory magazines, Glock removes them and won’t send them back with your firearms. That’s just the way they do things. With that said, I trust my life and my daughter’s life (she has a CCW) with the newer production Glock 42. For what it’s worth, I have an extensive gun collection and I’ve been carrying off-duty concealed now for 29 years and still doing it. The G42 has a place in my rotation for deep concealment purposes and I’d go anywhere with it. Now the .380 bullet itself is an entirely different story for another time. Yes, there is “better” than .380, but when I put two in the heart and one in the head of a bad guy, is it really going to matter what caliber was used at that point?

[@Th3BaconNation]

Lots of good info there to keep an eye out for when buying used ones. Thanks for sharing that. Mine is one that looks to be version 2, which makes sense given when I bought it versus when they introduced those updates, and why mine has worked flawlessly. Great little gun. One thing I'll mention that is different from your experience is the places I buy used guns at have let me field strip a gun, and at least half will do it for me if I'm curious about the guts before opening my wallet because they know they have a good product and if I'm to that point odds are better than good they made a sale. Maybe its because I do the gun store circuit every weekend looking for deals and gun gossip, but I'm not sure of any stores around me that wouldn't let me do so. Maybe its a regional/regular customer thing. And while I'll agree first year guns have first year gun problems, I wouldn't avoid them across the board. Obviously I didn't. I bought the LCP Max the day it hit stores. Good little gun. Not perfect. Few things ever come close. As far as carry guns go, I'd say the same thing about a year one release gun that I would about a design that's be out 30 years or 130 years- shoot it enough with your carry ammo first to verify the gun is reliable with that ammo, and you are comfortable and confident enough in the gun to be as proficient as possible. The LCP Max II that eventually comes out will probably have something like an updated finish along with a marketing buzz word to try and get existing owners to "upgrade," while also luring in new customers. For as long as these little pocket CC guns are popular again they'll regularly churn out new versions and models. If its not the LCP Max II it will be something like the LCP Ultra or whatever the next buzz word is for a optics ready model, and then maybe a Ultra Competition, featuring a longer barrel with patented "anti-snap" compensator. If ruger steals that name and product idea I hope I get a shout out in the launch video.

[@Fight4freedom.]

thank you for your review. I also have a G 42 with a hogue grip, I don’t know what it is but I can shoot my G 42 better than any of my other pistols including my Glock 19 and several others. I don’t know what it is about this G 42 but it’s a real good shooter very accurate! If Glock can somehow make this gun at least a 10 rounder it will be gold

[@troytruong8246]

Yess! Love my g42. Gave my p365 to my brother. Lol

[@RickJamesGhostGuns]

If glock made it a 10 rounder, I would get one in a heart beat but for now Im gonna stick with my LCP max for pocket carry

[@michaelmckeel9438]

We need a lil 42x. I'd rock it everyday

[@TexasNightRider]

I wanted a light easily concealable pistol to wear under my jersey while cycling. The Ruger LCP Max works for me. Great video. Thank you.

[@Quality_Guru]

I don’t own a Glock 42 and haven’t given it any consideration, but I was extremely impressed with a friend’s G42 that I shot once one handed. It has like shooting a 22 LR pistol. There is just something special about this little pistol that is the perfect match for the 380 round. If they updated it with an optics cut I couldn’t think twice about purchasing one despite its ugly looks. You got me excited about this pistol again, especially with long distance shot placements that you claim.

[@Th3BaconNation]

I mentioned recently in another comment that when I bought the G42 years ago I wanted to hate it. It continues to impress me and long ago exceeded the expectations I had. I hadn't thought of an optic cut version, probably since I only got my first optics pistol 2 weeks ago. Now that you mention it, if there was one I'd definitely buy it. A year and a half ago when we were forced to find some alternative safe shooting locations to continue enjoying our favorite sport, instead of being limited to a max 50 yard pistol shot due to my local range's setup, we found a spot where we could do quite a bit longer shots in general. So when we setup a 22 steel challenge course at 75-150 yards one day, at the end of the day I said I wanted to try a hicock45/honest outlaw style long distance pistol steel target shot with my carry gun, which happened to be the G42. I hit the 75 yard target right off, and over the next few weekends ended the days doing longer shots. For years I always thought I'd have to aim way up on a target at distance with a handgun, and after a certain distance the bullets would just randomly zig off at a 90 degree angle or whatever because that's what happens in the movies. Turns out reality is way different than the movies, and I was way wrong. When I started aiming at them no different than I would when they're 5 yards away, out to distances way beyond what I anticipated, I was still on target. And to be fair, the G42 is not the only gun I have experienced this with, it is just the one I shoot the best which is why I have on me whenever we're shooting rifles or whatever at ranges where I have targets setup past 100 yards, or any other time we get the hankering for a random pistol shooting challenge. It is also worth mentioning that I am in no way an expert. I am just a recreational paper and steel target shooter, and all my experiences are based on shooting at indoor ranges and outdoors under controlled conditions of the four seasons of middle-America.

[@TM-ey5py]

It’s better to buy a non-MOS Glock and get the slide cut.

[@rickeybullington6314]

Ruger all the way.

[@timbaker266]

@@rickeybullington6314 who me ?

[@setlikeamf]

Thinking about getting rid of the LCP Max and getting the G42. LCP Max is not easy to shoot accurate and it has issues with the slide locking back after last round. Also after loading up a mag and racking the slide back it doesn't always go all the way forward so when you go to shoot their is no bang.

[@greghirsch491]

I axed the Ruger LCP max because it was extremely unreliable. Had feeding issues with ball and hollow points after polishing the feed ramp and shooting several hundred rounds. Have put many rounds through a few Glock 42’s. Never had an issue. Glock 42 for me for pocket carry.

[@craigsbuyer2270]

Try a Galloway 13lb spring, slide racks better and felt recoil is milder…

[@richielombardi2085]

Very fair comparison and thank you. I just sold my Glock 42 after only one month after I saw the Ruger Max. The round count was the game changer

[@setlikeamf]

Not when it jams and the slide doesn't lock back. Have fun.

[@r0024smith]

I love my Ruger MAX! I live in Florida which means light summer clothing, The MAX is easy to hide and great for everyday carry. A little "Snappy" but shoots great and is perfect for a short range pocket pistol.

[@rosemarsili9159]

I wonder why Glock won't try their hand at a true double-stack micro-380. Hell, even their version of a micro-9 doesn't appear to be that small.

[@Th3BaconNation]

I know outside the US in some places people can get the G25 and G28, which are to my understanding 380 versions of the 19 and 26. I've always wanted a 28. I like the idea of a doublestack 380 in that size. I couldn't begin to speculate on why they don't have something smaller than the 42. Seems to me, in the US anyway, currently 380 has a "too small/underpowered" reputation at the moment, and 9mm seems to be more desirable to the consumer. I prefer the more mild to shoot recoil of 380 in a pocket or small sub-compact gun, but my preferences probably are out of sync with the mainstream.

[@saltwatersaddletramp7229]

Glock mags with the polymer wrapped around the steel are very thick. That would make it hard to make a double stack and keep the size down. Shield Arms made the 15 round mag for the 43X partially by removing the polymer shell and reducing the thickness. The advantage to Glock mags is that they are certainly one of the most durable auto loading mags ever made.

[@grog3514]

Because Glock doesn't spend much on R&D. They found much better returns investing in marketing. Glock perfection is a marketing campaign. They used marketing to spin their lack of safety as the safety is between your ears. People still drink it up despite numerous lawsuits from people with holes in their legs. They won't come out with their own version until the LCP max starts hurting their bottom line. And then I will bet that they have problems for a few years while they leverage their marketing for damage control. But I will say that outside the safety issue, the firearms they offer that don't advance the platforms technologically are very solid entries. Just don't expect much innovation.

[@stgeorgethepurist8311]

I agree but it will NEVER happen unless there's a major shift to 380 ACP.

[@chuckgreen8989]

@@grog3514 You mean CARELESS people with holes in their legs.

[@tedjerdee1028]

Just bought the LCP max and it is unbelievably concealable. I keep it in the back pocket and forget I have it. 10 rounds of a competent round, good sights, and it fits in your pocket. If you are a competent shooter and cool with 380, this is the best gun you can carry

[@jeffadams9807]

I Have BOTH, Great Gun's, I Like The LCP-MAX More & It's My EDC...

[@wes326]

All depends on how you plan to carry. Thanks for sharing.

[@Rnemhrd]

I disagree with the glock being easier to chamber a round. The slide is slick and serrations shallow. The ruger has deeper serrations and the little wings on it. I had a G42 for a brief time. SD ammo fussy. I like the glock grip angle better and it was soft shooting. Ruger set the new standard with this. It is the P365 of the 380 world.

[@troytruong8246]

Most folks have no idea how great the g42 is. I dont pocket carry like many folks. Not tactical or practical imo. Best micro .380 on the market. Cc it for 8 years now.

[@Th3BaconNation]

The G42 is a beast, IMO. Unless space is at an absolute premium it is my goto option. It doesn't have the capacity of some other options, but I shoot mine so well that I'm willing to sacrifice things like capacity and caliber in favor of things like accuracy minimal recoil for help staying on target. My G42 has also been extremely reliable across various ammo, including my sketchy reloads. I'm a big big fan of the G42 even if the internet likes to shit on it.

[@chuckgreen8989]

Happy with my G42, thanks.

[@electrochubb]

^ same here

[@RedPillVegan]

I wish someone made a flush fit metal double stack mag for the g42

[@Th3BaconNation]

Glock sells a couple different double stack 380s, though they have yet to be available in the states. I'm hopeful that changes, but 380 seems to be underappreciated in the US market so I'm not holding my breath.

[@Fight4freedom.]

I own several Glocks this G 42 man it’s so impressive the way it shoots I just wish it holds more rounds I will not feel Outgunned with.380

[@troytruong8246]

Shield Arms needs to make double stack mag for this g42!!!!!

[@troytruong8246]

G42 with 10rds double stack mag is going to be a dream come true for me.

[@smibru]

@@troytruong8246 I don't think Shield Arms want to deal with the Glock 42 checked history with reliability. I bought a 42 last year (21) and it shoots great when it wants too! And yes it has the 03 mags.

[@CabinOnTheWater]

3:57 You can hit a 6" Gong Target at 115 yards with a Glock 42 pistol? That's impressive considering my PMC 90grain FMJ going 961fps drops 20 inches at 115 yards. What kind of ammo are you using?

[@Th3BaconNation]

That was with Hornady Critical Defense. I used to get it for less than $19/box and had a bunch so I shot it all the time practice long range shots after we got done shooting rifle. With the current prices and availability not so much, and I also haven't had a chance to practice as often at the training facility where I can safely setup those long range pistol shots. I'd say its probably more like 75 yards now. Hopefully this spring I get a chance set that up again but with the target camera going that I didnt have last time.

[@NOT_A_TOP_FAN]

115 yards?? That’s 345 feet! You must be a sniper! Lol

[@deplorabledave1048]

I have that same Hogue grip for my G42 and my XL size hands. ALL my mags except one are +2 Strike Industries. I have to have them to fit my had properly. One of my mags is a 10 round. I wear tactical pants ED, so this is most definitely a DEEP conceal pocket gun that I can barely feel. Lehigh XTreme Defender rounds.

[@bobrees4363]

The Glock is a bit too large for most people to comfortably pocket carry, while the LCP Max fits even blue jeans pockets with room to draw them when needed. If I have to carry the pistol in a holster on (or inside) my waistband, it might as well be a more powerful round than a .380. The biggest selling point for the Max over the LCP II isn't the capacity, but the visible sights.

[@Th3BaconNation]

I'd tend to agree to a point. I can pocket carry my G42 in the "relaxed/loose fit" jeans in a pocket, but that's on a good day. The LCP/LCP Max is definitely more concealable in that regard. The max definitely has better sights over things like the original LCP. I don't have a LCP 2, but I suspect that it beats that as well. My G42 has very similar sights, but I find the shorter sight radius on the Max make it a step down from the G42 in that regard. However, since its not really a long range target gun, that step down is more like a pseudo step. It is more than capable within what I'd consider its intended range, in my not an expert opinion. I can hit targets from much further out with my G42, but if we keep things in context of intended use the LCP Max is certainly a formidable choice at 380 with its combination of decent night sights and capacity advantage at that size/caliber.

[@Mike-4547]

Thank you for the video. I own both firearms definitely no regrets on either purchase, just my opinion not here to change anyone’s mind but I think the Glock 42 has more room for error especially for beginners where the LCP Max is more for people that have a bit more experience. both hide well in the pocket for the G42 I have a Vedder pocket holster and for the LCP Max I use a Sticky holster (made for the G42 ) I put a small piece of rag inside and it brings the LCP a bit higher plus it covers the trigger guard.

[@rogeryarnell1826]

I had an original LCP for pocket carry but found I couldn’t shoot it very well. I shoot the G42 very well, but I find it a little big and slow to draw from a pocket. YMMV. If I’m going to carry on my belt it’s just as easy to carry my Max 9 and have more punch and capacity. Planning to get an LCP Max after New Years. Thanks for a great video.

[@Th3BaconNation]

Thanks! I got an original LCP shortly after they came out. I shot it often and still think its one of the most difficult guns I have to shoot well. It took me regular practice to stay carry-comfortable with it. I think the G42 is a little big for a front pocket. I can get to it okay from a back pocket, but I'm not comfortable with how easy others could get to it there, so I prefer inside waist band with it. LCP Max is a little more concealable than the G42. I'd say for me and jeans it wouldn't be a pocket gun that I could get to with much speed, but other style pants it might as well be a cell phone in the pocket when a good pocket holster is used.

[@4deuce31]

I carry a 42 everyday as well with Strike Industries +2 mag extensions. So the extra 2 rnds mean nothing to me at this point. I can't stand Ruger's trigger on these things. Carry what you're comfortable with and train with it.

[@waynezee3696]

what brand of ammo do you use? I use 90 grain PMC bronze and get a lot of stove pipes and jams. My G42 is almost new

[@Th3BaconNation]

Right now I go with what is cheapest and hope I can get more than 1 box of it. When I have my choice I prefer Hornady Critical Defense for 380.

[@rickgarcia8481]

Anyone that has trouble racking the slide on the lcp max, needs some serious gym time. I found it very easy

[@miketyson8933]

Ive shot the Glock its cool and all but it just doesn't have the capacity and its as big as my Sig P365 XL so it was a no brainer for me to go with the Ruger LCP Max

[@Eddie70X7]

How many shots of .380 Flat Nose FMJ (say the Winchester 95 Grain Flat Nose FMJ) to the chest (say it misses the heart and big vessels, so only hits the lungs), do you think, if you had to take a realistic guess, would it take to take down someone like Shaq's size (or any really big person, like a strongman, powerlifter, etc.)?

[@Th3BaconNation]

In this fantasy situation I'm going to assume I shoot like I'm John Wick, so I'm going with one shot that passes through the ribs and hits the spine. If I'm not allowed to hit the spine, then I'm going with 1-3. I setup Paul Harrell style meat targets last year and shot them with a couple different types of ammo, including WWB. Lacking the high tech fleece bullet stop I only recovered 1 HP of everything shot because everything else went completely through the target. That 1 HP was stopped by the ribs on the back. Multiple ribs were shattered and the orange lung tissue was jacked up. Probably not the most scientific test ever, but it certainly made me never want to be shot by one.

[@Eddie70X7]

@@Th3BaconNation Thanks. A WWB FN FMJ .380 meplat is roughly .25" in diameter, and I think 2 of those could take out anyone. I would say 2, def 3, no matter how big. Not bad ballistics. You 100% confident in .380 to do the trick? You wouldn't ever worry the caliber is "too small"? I plan on getting both a G42 and Ruger LCP 2 for CCW, jus wanna hear other opinions. It's crazy how some people think even 9mm is "too small".

[@Th3BaconNation]

I do not have that concern. I'm sure others have some compelling reasons on why they believe it is. Based on my experience I have no issues with it. I am not an expert, and these are just my opinions.

[@Eddie70X7]

@@Th3BaconNation Yup, I'm the same. I look at .380 as the minimum self defense caliber, for me. I personally think Hollow Points under-perform in .380 and rather go for Flat Nose FMJ (it cuts a hole slightly better than regular round nose) for the excellent penetration. Not worried about overpenetration in .380, even tho it's FMJ. Especially regarding a body with skin and bones.

[@bigdoggstatus99]

@@Eddie70X7 folks that think like that either: can't shoot well, or might be Texans and just believe "bigger=better" 😆 or have never been in a high stress situation. Larger calibers are more difficult to control on a normal day. I wouldn't trust my life to a 40cal unless I was shooting targets through walls on purpose. There's a reason 22s and 380s are responsible for more deaths than other calibers. It's not that they're more lethal, it's that you're more likely to hit your target. I can fire 6 50cal rounds from a desert eagle in your direction and hit whatever is behind you everytime. Yet, one well placed 22 to the dome may not kill you ,depending on the load, but you will not mess with anyone else for the rest of your life, for sure.

[@Bigdsd89]

My Glock 42 will not reliably feed anything other than fmj which works for me because I only carry fmj in .380acp because of penetration issues.But if I’m being honest I carry my Glock 19,26,or my SW Shield Plus more.Glock 42 is a good back up gun.

[@steverugerguy9606]

How old is your g42?.....thry made some changes to the good in 2018...

[@jasonusaf6326]

I disagree with folks on the whole penetration issue and fmj for .380. There’s some offerings out there that have penetration and expansion; no, not 17-18” like a 9mm but I’m not an FBI agent needing to shoot through hardened barriers. Up close and dirty is 99% of the time the situation you’ll be in. Anything other than that you had better have a dang good lawyer

[@troytruong8246]

Best .380 carry round is Underwood Extreme or Lehigh Defense.

[@24roughing76]

Same problems with my 42. Not so perfect_ion. I traded my 42 for an LCP 2 a few years ago.. I'll be trading LCP 2 for a Max very soon.

[@fbweaver63]

good review. thanks.

[@TsunamiDragonEX]

I have a Glock 42 and I hate the recoil on it. I'm not sure if I'm actually a wuss, or the muzzle flip and recoil impulse are legitimately high, because it's a smaller gun. I thought .380 ACP was supposed to be a joy to shoot, this damn gun kicks like crazy for me lol

[@Th3BaconNation]

Maybe try something like a hogue grip on yours. I find 380 to be very mild to shoot, but I'm not everyone. On some compact firearms I find the hogure grip to help absorb some recoil to help make a tiny gun easier to handle. For example, I think my P365SAS is much easier to shoot with the hogue grip on it versus the same gun without. But that's just my experience.

[@russellrudolph4051]

I bought a glock 42 brand new, has never worked FTF Stove pipes, had experienced range officer look at and another shooter, wouldn't ever trust my life with this gun.

[@Th3BaconNation]

Doesn't matter the manf/make/model, some people just get bad ones. I've had more than a few that I'd consider only range/target pieces, and others that were so bad I got rid of them. Certainly illustrates the importance of making sure what one buys works reliably and well before relying upon it, but that's just my opinion.

[@russellrudolph4051]

@@Th3BaconNation Yeah I was really disappointed after hearing so much about a glock, until this day I have never thought about buying another, Sig sauer for me.

[@Th3BaconNation]

I can relate to that. I've had experiences where I've soured on a manf and not bought something for years as a result. I hated on Glock until I got the 42, but experiences like yours are certainly worth mentioning. I've had a good experience. You did not. I think people are interested in hearing both sides so they can make an informed choice when spending their hard earned money.

[@Rnemhrd]

I had one. it was ammo fussy. Sold it for a Sig P365. The LCP Max is nice. I am happy with it.

[@troytruong8246]

Sorry to hear. These tiny .380s can be very picky with certain ammo brands. You have to test out the brands of ammo before you decide to use it. My g42 has been great for 8 years now. I gave my p365 to my brother. Lol

[@B_R_]

You're hitting a 6in target with the glock 42 at 115 yards?

[@Th3BaconNation]

My G42 is one of the few pistols I shoot where I can reliably hit targets at what I consider surprising ranges like that. That doesn't mean everyone can with a G42, or that I can do that with every gun, or that I can do it 100% of the time, or with every type of ammo out there. Right now its probably more like 85 yards since I haven't had a chance to shoot it that much as of late shooting everything else, but that's still significantly further than what I can do with the vast majority of even the full sized pistols out there I shoot. And that's measured shots at a nice relaxed awesome range day, not rapid fire john woo movie style explosions car chase scene shooting like i'm Sam Jackson in Shaft or the like. Ideal conditions.

[@togeika]

I can't imagine carrying the GLock in your Pocket. These pistols are for two very different purposes.

[@darronfozo6184]

Dang it man.now I gotta get the Glock 42.thanks for the video

[@Th3BaconNation]

I'm not sure where the link goes, but the G42, IMO, is a good option to have.

[@craigholcombe1901]

GLOCK NEEDS TO CHANGE WITH TIMES 6ROUND

[@bigdoggstatus99]

Great review. I'm buying a Max to replace a stolen p3AT, the original platform stolen by ruger from kel-tec, and still less expensive. Just in case anyone cares and money is an issue, the hi-point 380 is the smoothest shooting in this caliber of all that I have shot. I couldn't believe it myself. Rapid fires much better than glock with comparable accuracy. Ugly doesn't matter where CC is concerned and life is on the line. Jmho, Buy American!!!

[@Th3BaconNation]

Thanks! That hi-point is not one on my list, but if I know/meet someone who has one I'd love to add it to this comparison series. The internet seems to shit on hi-point, but I know a few people who have some and enjoy them. Ugly but works, works, which is what I value most. If I get to test one and find it works better for me than my current preferred 380 I'd have no issues buying one.

[@bigdoggstatus99]

@@Th3BaconNation Most commenters on the net don't know Jack Schitt. Aesthetics over function is the general rule. I am from Cleveland and remember meeting the guy who owns the company when I was a teenager at the American/Canadian sports and outdoors show. He was building out of his garage in Mansfield, Ohio. I thought it was the coolest. An American success story, in all it's glory. The gen 1 guns were more blocky than they are now, but they were cheap, accurate and locally made. My cousin bought a pistol and later the 9mm carbine. My barber has the 380 and 40cal carbine. I chose the kel-tec 9mm for my carbine in glock configuration for 3 reasons: 1. Foldable = backpack/briefcase concealability. 2. Glock fit 33round 9mm mags readily available 3. Glock fit 50rnd drum mags were cheap, under $60 on sale when I bought mine from Bud's.... Not anymore!!!!

[@whoknows8678]

Ruger didn't steal anything from Kel-Tec. Copied? Sure, but not stolen. For some reason, George Kellgren never patents any of his designs so they're wide open for the taking. Legally. Copied != stolen. Big difference.

[@danielrodriguez5463]

The Glock is a dinosaur in every sense and in most calibers. If it wasn’t for the aftermarket support people would not consider them at all. It is not the 80s anymore and polymer pistols come with the reliability a Glock plus a dump truck full of features that straight from factory.

[@jakeblack7784]

I have HK's, Sigs, etc. but the most reliable handguns I have are my glocks. If I could only have one handgun it would be the glock 27 (compact, power, firepower with up to a 22 round magazine. The 26 would be next. My two cents.

[@bperrin73]

I own the G42, an LCPII, and the LCP Max. You "shoot better" with the Glock because the steel slide is longer (longer=heavier=more weight=more down force to mitigate muzzle rise). The Glock slide is "easier" to rack because the Max has more rounds (almost double) in the magazine, which is only a tad larger than the Glock, which means more spring tension pressure pushing the rounds up against the slide. I CC'd the Glock for 2 years, got the LCPII and still carried the Glock. I've now swapped my Glock for the LCP Max. At .380, more rounds still equals more hits on target if you practice. I've up-thumbed this video because you've done more than the average reviewer by actually presenting some range time instead of a readout of available specs - that is appreciated. I'm forced to give you a "Decent" on your overall review because your audio sounds like a VHS tape that's been copied over 20 times...Please upgrade your MIC and continue striving for better content...

[@Th3BaconNation]

Thanks for the feedback on the mic. I've been testing some different mics and mic placements for the narration in my videos. I'm still trying to find that sweet spot mic setup where the narration sounds clear but people don't hear server fans and squeaky toys in the background. I don't have a sound booth, so sometimes my better mics pick up too much ambient noise, unfortunately. Nature of the beast as a amateur content creator I suppose. I mention in a couple other videos that I too believe that difficulty articulating the slide is related to the magazine spring and the upward pressure of the rounds in a full magazine against the slide. As far as the shooting better goes, the slide material is not the reason. Both guns feature steel slides. For me the 2 main factors are the LCP Max has a shorter sight radius and a trigger that I find not as good as what the G42 has. The mass of the guns definitely affects shots 2 onward, but if just the gun weight alone were a factor my first shot from both guns would be the same, and it is not. The extra size and mass I believe make the G42 a more easily shootable gun, but LCP Max is certainly good enough for its intended purpose and range. I might not shoot pretty groups with it, but I'm more than happy with it. With my original LCP I was happy putting a round anywhere on the coyote target from 25 yards. With the LCP Max I can consistently hit the 10 inch gong at 50 yards. While I can hit targets at ranges more than double that with the G42, its hard to complain about the accuracy of any pocket gun I can consistently hit a target that size at at that range, IMO.

[@zerosoma33]

G42 all day long. My LCP Max has been nothing but problems….I can’t carry it because I can’t trust it.

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

Where's the LCP Max target?

[@Th3BaconNation]

Unfortunately my pic that went with that target did not save, however, this one - i.imgur.com/jf78wzw.jpg is a good example of how my groups currently look with that gun. I'm sure I do a poor job of representing what that gun is capable of doing with regard to accuracy.

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

@@Th3BaconNation Ayyyy, thank ya. That target is actually pretty close to the G42, figure you could eventually shoot on par with it using the Max?

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

@@Th3BaconNation Actually, looking at it now, the LCP Max looks to have a tighter group, just left and low

[@Th3BaconNation]

I shoot the Max low/left. I have a second pic of that target in the Astra video after another magazine, and those 10 were still low left but a tighter group. It is taking me some time to get used to the trigger. It is just different enough than everything else for me that I'm not comfortable with it yet.

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

@@Th3BaconNation makes sense

[@ThePNWRiderWA]

The Glock 42 I can shoot far better than the Glock 43.

[@Th3BaconNation]

I don't have a 43 but I've shot them. I didn't find them near as enjoyable to shoot as I do the 42. I'm probably in the minority in that regard. To each their own. I've been testing a 48 for the past few months, and while I like it more than I do the 43, I feel like I should have kept the 26 I put through its paces a few years ago.

[@troytruong8246]

G43 is snappy. Gave my new p365 to my brother n keep my g42. Lol

[@gmoney313.]

I own both and I'll just say this the max holds 12 rounds but doesn't shoot plus p rounds the glock 42 shoots plus p rounds but only holds 6 but you can get a 4 round mag adaptor.

[@troytruong8246]

Pearce grip gives u 1 extra rd. 7+1 is suffice for self defense carry imo.

[@whoknows8678]

There is no SAAMI accepted standard for "+p" in .380.

[@stevestanley5183]

Which is more comfortable to shoot

[@quinnmclaughlin7537]

seems like you have had opposite experiences with these guns from most people, I literally couldn't get through a full mag on the G42 without a malfunction, and I have heard/seen that this is an option for the people that can't get a S&W 380 EZ, because of the easy slide.

[@Th3BaconNation]

Someone else posted a comment on this video detailing various changes that have been done to the G42 since it first released to improve the reliability. The EZ has the easiest slide to work. The G42 isn't as easy, but it is better than the LCP Max in that regard. I'll also qualify that by saying the presence of a fully loaded magazine has most do with the difficulty on the LCP Max. Without the mag or with a partially loaded one there is much less resistance against the slide to contend with.

[@zerosoma33]

Count me as one who has had no problems with a G42, and nothing but problems with an LCP Max. The Max was my WORST purchase this year, full stop.

[@nonjaninja4904]

The Ruger is a good product from a functionality pov, but the styling on Rugers is usually pretty awful. Unless it's a PPK or 1911 I can't stand rounded trigger guards.

[@Th3BaconNation]

I don't think either Ruger or the Glock are easy on the eyes, but they both work well.

[@AK-ky3ou]

Enjoy some good ol English tea?

[@937-b3o]

12 mag its not that big man

[@bigdoggstatus99]

Double stack. It's slightly wider than the original.