I’ve always thought that Jeremy was kind of a foil to Amelia’s character, having stayed in the train, working away trying to avoid his problems while years passed. And it wasn’t until a confrontation that they realized that it wasn’t too late for them. So if the car accident theory is true, that would connect them even more
@pulpypal9533 жыл бұрын
What happened to Alrick? Based on his last words, “Amelia, don’t run over me,” his fate is a grim one. More seriously, I’m looking forward to watching this video! You always bring so much care & insight into your analysis videos; they’re gems!
@sunsetxx-52603 жыл бұрын
Who- Who said that those were his last words? Owen? Wh? Who? That's dark as fuck-
@Mirrorcomics243 жыл бұрын
Was this in the show?
@thescauldron84363 жыл бұрын
Wait is that why Owen made the dirt bike joke 😂
@pulpypal9533 жыл бұрын
@@sunsetxx-5260 Oh, for context, this was something that came up in the Toon Ruins video titled “Drawing Miraculous Ladybug Characters from Memory,” about 30 minutes in. Sorry for the confusion!
@sunsetxx-52603 жыл бұрын
@@pulpypal953 that is extremely dark
@acedreamer20043 жыл бұрын
2:10 “Alrick seemed to be soft spoken and anxious” Yep…kinda relatable🙂
@HackiePuffs3 жыл бұрын
I remember that Owen said in the Reddit AMA that book 6 was supposed to be focused on guilt and if I remember correctly then Jeremy was on the train because he felt guilty about the car crash. Maybe book 6 focused on Jeremy?? We could’ve gotten answers there!!!
@heybestie69863 жыл бұрын
Take your “I watched the whole video” ticket here.
@seineevee3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kind person!
@maryhamilton48723 жыл бұрын
I'll take the polar express looking ticket that says BELIEVE on it, ty ❤
@red-pet-dead3 жыл бұрын
I watched it twice do i get a price
@DetonatressM3 жыл бұрын
The accident likely didn't happen in the UK, because Amelia and Alrick moved to the US for college. Unless they went back to the UK after that. However, the hydrants are US-based when Amelia is being called to the funeral. So they were in the US when he died. Jeremy mentions a person named Keith in his journal: "Ha ha. I wonder what Keith is up to these days." In the yearbook, there are some fruit denizens. One of them (a lemon) says, "Ewww! Keithhh!" In the storyboards for Book 5, there is a car that has vegetable denizens, and Amelia visits it. Maybe Amelia came across this Keith and found out Jeremy was behind the accident.
@kingdmind3 жыл бұрын
The plot thickens. That wouldve been huge for her and easily contributed against her being able to grieve
@frickinfrick84883 жыл бұрын
I am so here for how deep you go into Amelia and Alrick’s backstory, this video and the feminist arc video are some of my favourites of yours. Really makes me want book 5 :’c
@thescauldron84363 жыл бұрын
Amazing theory! I'm looking forward for more of your meta for Book 4. Also I'm also always under the assumption that Amelia has stayed in the train for quite some time in Book 4 since she seems to have better mental state the first time we see her before the 'incident' we don't know in Book 5 that led to the coup. This also seems to shed more light into her dialogue in Book 3 on how she 'didn't like how One did things' as possibly being genuinely about running the car instead of just One not giving Alrick back, and I assume its a conflict of ideology between Amelia wanting to use the power of the train to provide freedom and happiness for passengers like her to a selfish unhealthy degree & One's cold ideology of self betterment or die. While this is a theory but the Ghom orb is certainly product of this conflict, and considering how the Ghoms seems to serve no therapeutic purpose, infiltrates into other cars, and does not work within the system like the Docent, its purpose seems to be extermination, and may be One's doing to counter Amelia's coup, until she lost her idealism in giving freedom to other passengers, to wanting them to stay put in their cars while she tries to ressurect Alrick, using the Ghom orb as a weapon and the swarms Ghoms themselves acting to hinder anyone from making it into the engine. I also always want to gush about Rymin and AmeliaxAlrick parallels and contrasts 😂😂. Besides Rymin and AmeliaxAlrick as well as Kez and Morgan being parallels, I loved how important Amelia's appearances in the Book 4 were, and her cameos were not just for the sake of it but narratively woven into Ryan and Min-Gi's stories. Ryan and Min-Gi are estranged from each other and in the end has to learn to forgive each other and themselves for their past to forge a new future together, and its similar to Amelia needing to move on & accept the past, but opposite in the sense that she has to learn to let go of Alrick and how they are separated by death. Amelia's tragedy serves as both a sweet and bitter omen for Ryan and Min-Gi on what they would face by relying with each other, and so Amelia tries to 'individuate' them (its taken out of context but i think its still narratively important for Rymin). Such as when she returned their instruments and clothes which were both vital tools for how they got off the train and also essentially her bringing their old emotional baggage to come back (and its amazing how layered IT is because this action means separately in Amelia or One's perspective, as they are not doing this to only Rymin, a sympathetic action that also can be traced to their flaws: how Amelia is obsessed with the past and One tries to be human but fails to understand it completely). As such he returned objects also sprang trouble for Min-Gi, who remembered his past looking at his keychains and ran out of the performance. Symbolically, Amelia and Min-Gi are connecting in their trait of not being able to move on, and at that moment the returned objects instead stopped his progress in the train, which provides an argument for One's original "no personal objects" policy even tho personally i think its a worse idea 😂 since the instruments did help them get off too! Necause they bonded over them. So its a duality as Amelia gave them these tools to 'individuate' them and it resulted instead with the non-closure of the past coming back to haunt their relationship, yet them using these tools and the good from past experiences to rekindle their relationship, apologize, and move on despite the risks, symbolically braving through the possible tragedies that can hit them as it did with Amelia and Alrick. Amelia's last appearance is removing the boots which we don't know the reason for as off now, but her coup is done in a rush and without the consent of the passengers, whi h yeah she is probably trying not to be killed at that moment according to the storyboards 😂, but already foreshadows her downfall for wanting freedom, individuality, and agency for the passengers into thinking she knows what's good for them and creating a strict order as she is more obsessed with her personal mission, and it translates well from how she uses the mecha suit to be more machine-like by Book 1, symbolizing her loss of humanity and becoming more like orginal One. Amelia during the coup acts rashly without consent and confuses or possibly endangers a lot of passengers as well as destroying the network of (flawed) support systems established by the train. Her action aligns with Ryan's volatile and sudden mannerisms, and in this action she reiterated his trauma, especially after jsut reeling in from Kez's betrayal and he takes it badly because he recognizes and is guilty that he acted the same ("lalala i'm a bell!" But unironically) combined with the guilt from accidentally 'leaving' Min in the Gallery car. By removing this support system and causing their confusion, Amelia emulates Ryan's fear of not being able to create a new future, stuck in the past due to inability (Ryan's "it moved but it didn't change" vs. Tulip telling Amelia "you can't even make a car without any turtles in it"). They both recklessly try to forge a future for themselves, and Ryan learns that he should learn to forgive and apologize on Min, but Amelia has no such option except moving on, especially considering (its kinda far out theory but may be appropriate) it seems that Amelia isn't that close to anybody else except Alrick to have a strong support system, and while she does have a companion in the concept art, the first time we saw her in Book 4 she was alone with One, so I'm suspicious that this may had played into her arc in book 5 but i can be wrong.
@Lucas-gy5yr3 жыл бұрын
You don't have to feel embarrassed if a theory turns out wrong, squeeze that brain juice girl!
@adripurdy19983 жыл бұрын
yes!
@dandywaysofliving3 жыл бұрын
It's all about having fun. Being wrong doesn't make it less enjoyable.just let's it be less accurate. In a KZbin patreon Era that might be fatal but humanity is happy to glance over assumptions If they're fun. Imagine 2 essays describing humanity in 20 years based off facts and opinion. 1 is accurate, the other shares hope. No matter the cringe we must always have hope. Everything that exist was birthed
@herodaresfire45123 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally we had the hashtag trending today. I saw it get up to #6. I'm still hopeful for more books and even a movie or two in the future.
@maem74623 жыл бұрын
I do agree that before Amelia met One she was probably just learning abt the train for 5 years just learning abt it and probably trying to bring Alrick back. I think eventually One saw how she was figuring some things out about how it worked and he let her work with her or she find One somehow while learning more abt the train
@Egg-Thor3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting all day for this video! 🥳
@liran87993 жыл бұрын
About the timeline debate I wanna mention that Amelia doesn't look that different when you compare how she looked in book 1's The Past Car and how she looked in book 4 and the book 5 mockup frame If she was 5 years on the train wouldn't her appearance be different? longer hair maybe? She looks exactly the same before she boarded in book 1's flashbacks and after she boarded in books 4-5
@Rioux13553 жыл бұрын
My theory is based on what one one said. “Given enough time, anything can happen”. What if given enough time, she said as the first person to wake up on the number car. CaUse why else would she not be in that jump suit
@DetonatressM3 жыл бұрын
@@Rioux1355 She had a jumpsuit of her own, and boots of her own. However, she boarded the train in a green sweater (look at her tape memory). In Book 4 she has a red sweater and she has the boots on too. So she likely had been processed, unless One personally dragged her to the machine and had her wear the boots. Her jumpsuit is seen in the frame Owen posted, but she didn't have the turtle or the jumpsuit with her in Book 4, so maybe she received the jumpsuit or put it back on before meeting the turtle.
@Rioux13553 жыл бұрын
@@DetonatressM interesting. She is seen wearing the same sweater in the Flack back in book one. Two possibilities, lighting made the shirt green (which I doubt), or she had two sweaters worn. With Britain and the rain… maybe?!?
@DetonatressM3 жыл бұрын
@@Rioux1355 When Alrick died she was no longer in Britain. She was in the US (they moved there for college). The clues are given by the US fire hydrant on the day of Alrick's funeral. But would be interesting if she had 2 sweaters on if they were gifts from Alrick. She was wearing his robe too.
@Rioux13553 жыл бұрын
@@DetonatressM the two sweater thing is a possibility. Though I do wonder if they went to school in the United Kingdom than moved to the us. Or perhaps the hydrants was an old style hydrant. This is why we need more seasons
@daralic22553 жыл бұрын
Imagine being put on the infinity train because you had trouble dealing with having a sick family only to finally get off the train and know they passed and you missed the funeral
@Marshall-Lee.3 жыл бұрын
One of the rooms with the IV in unfinished car has a 4 above the hospital bed. I think this is a subtle clue that Alricks accident WAS connected to Jeremy’s accident since we first hear of the car accident in book 4
@egg_bun_3 жыл бұрын
Nice one
@barnacle64003 жыл бұрын
Emperor Belos from The Owl House and Alrick are both voiced by Matthew Rhys
@qs-ii18723 жыл бұрын
You grief both before and after death. You can prepare and come to terms with it, though when it finally comes, you can never be fully prepared. It lessens the blow significantly.
@madbahamut3 жыл бұрын
Where you mention the picture of Amelia talking on the phone with that pained, shocked expression, to the bottom left of it there is a plane....he may have died abroad, or in a plane. I think car accident or accident on the job is most likely, especially with all the hospital imagery, but I just thought it was cool to mention as a possibility. Most people in a plane crash dont survive to be admitted into hospital for any amount of time. he could have also been suddenly diagnosed with cancer. While my mom was suddenly diagnosed and given 2 weeks to live after a very shocking sudden illness, I have a good friend I used to work with whose boyfriend was diagnosed and died of cancer within 90 days....so, there are always some possibilities!
@L337M4573RK3 жыл бұрын
Other theories on KZbin regarding Alrick's death have pointed to little details sprinkled throughout the Turtle Car, the Unfinished Car, etc., and although Jeremy could have some connection to Alrick and Amelia, it's also possible that Alrick could have died from an electrical accident, a stroke, a heart attack, asthma, etc. Books 5-9 could have given us some better insight, but only time will tell if we'll ever get a satisfying conclusion.
@Mirrorcomics243 жыл бұрын
If we ever got an Amelia focused season and it was just hbo max I’d love it if they made it so he has cancer
@rigzmoviediaries6543 жыл бұрын
Weird thing to love lol
@Mirrorcomics243 жыл бұрын
@@rigzmoviediaries654 I hate this comment, I’m not saying I love the thing I’m saying I’d love that for a narrative purpose
@rigzmoviediaries6543 жыл бұрын
@@Mirrorcomics24 I know, I was making a joke
@Mirrorcomics243 жыл бұрын
@@rigzmoviediaries654 it just makes me angry when people say I like domestic abuse or terminal illness, it’s not a very funny joke
@acedreamer20043 жыл бұрын
Book 3 is always on my mind. There are just so many things I want to know. What happens to Hazel? Does Amelia get off the train? Does *Grace* get off the train? Ahh why did the show have to get cancelled?! Also, does anyone have any guesses on what would happen in Book 5? I heard that Guilt would have been the main theme in Book 5.
@sarahsims61643 жыл бұрын
From what I heard, Book 5 was gonna be a movie that explained how Amelia took over the train; as for Book 3, yeah my thoughts exactly, as well as wondering if Samantha found out about Simon and what her reaction was.
@theblackestblackever93393 жыл бұрын
@@sarahsims6164 Samantha be like: i knew that Simon will end like that.
@theblackestblackever93393 жыл бұрын
@@sarahsims6164 Samantha be like: i knew that Simon will end like that.
@tobyaseme97373 жыл бұрын
Not guilt, grief, guilt was book 6
@mfvpictures3 жыл бұрын
wait isnt book 7s theme called revenge.... what if amelia wanted to take revenge back on jeremy.. if so how would she do so..(depends on what timeline we are speaking of)
@Mirrorcomics243 жыл бұрын
Considering kez was his companion before book 4 and he spent 5 years on the train I doubt so
@thescauldron84363 жыл бұрын
I dont think so since reddit AMA said book 7 is going to focus on a new character
@ignacio79633 жыл бұрын
YEESS! I was waiting for this video
@MF99K3 жыл бұрын
someone already pointed out that the car accident in book 4 likely wasn't the same accident Alrick was in (if he was in an accident) due to the timelines not matching up but it is possible
@dandywaysofliving3 жыл бұрын
One thing in relation to fogs. . 1 Drive slow. 2 B E careful 3 learn new physics. . Part 1b Apply to snowstorms in similar situations. Part 1 /b Help others clear some ice save a life. How many deaths can we prevent with an effort to help mm others. I imagine 1000 ppl can give an 800 effect on those 15-25 people that die every year
@spookyplaguedoctor57142 жыл бұрын
I'd like to imagine that both Amelia and Alrick were involved in the accident, but she escaped fairly unscathed aside from minor injuries. Why else would she see the yellow tape if she wasn't there when it happened? The phone call could've been from the hospital after visiting hours telling her that Alrick didn't make it. Also chances are she met One-one within at most a few months since the train car she got on was the second one.
@aquawarper73282 жыл бұрын
So, I watched the entire video but I wanted to go back and talk about 11:17. You make some valid points, but could you please explain why the flipped over car wasn't damaged, if that's the car that either was the car Alrick was driving or the car he had a collision with in this possible car accident? The car is flipped upside down, but it appears to be completely intact.
@aquawarper73282 жыл бұрын
@Toon Ruins
@mariacastillo41213 жыл бұрын
I do think that even if he was involved in the car crash that killed Jeremy's mom and sister he probably didn't die in the car crash but of an injury way after in a hospital . Just seems more likely it explains the whole hospital bed and the hospital equipment. He was probably in a hospital for a long time.
@dylanoliver4033 жыл бұрын
I literally have no evidence for this, but I think that Jeremy is the guy that Lake stole the pod from. Since he never got his number, he can’t leave the train just like Morgan wanted.
@vdoggo750k33 жыл бұрын
Book 4 takes place before Book 2. And Jeremy left the train... he had a number.
@dylanoliver4033 жыл бұрын
@@vdoggo750k3 He might of returned, just like Jesse did at the end of Book 2.
@theblackestblackever93393 жыл бұрын
@@dylanoliver403 It doesn't seems to be true because we don't have enough evidence for that.
@WeepyGhost654 Жыл бұрын
Will we ever get more infinity train videos
@snbsixteen6stars2013 жыл бұрын
I hope you talk about tuca and birtie soon
@rosykindbunny13133 жыл бұрын
16:50 Wait when was she willing to end her own life in the show-
@hannahho62443 жыл бұрын
Before she was picked up by the train, she headed to a school building to jump from the roof. It's never said bur heavily implied.
@rosykindbunny13133 жыл бұрын
@@hannahho6244 Oh no! Thank goodness she didn't!
@mikechicago62002 жыл бұрын
Love to see more vids
@NekoTamer153 жыл бұрын
I like your analysis but I am confused about one detail. The caution tape is wrapped around pillars at their campus, and your theory is that Jeremy and Alrick hit each other head on in their cars. You would expect that accident to happen on a secluded road without many lights, not the middle of a college campus that likely would have illuminated street lights in thick fog. I guessed that Jeremy maybe swerved out of the way of another car, lost control, and crashed, taking the lives of not only his mother and sister but also Alrick, who was a pedestrian. I'm not saying you are wrong because I could be taking details way too literally. The hospital beds in the turtle's houses were unlikely to have actually been in residential homes, so the caution tape was maybe not actually at the college campus. So yeah, I could be dead wrong but do you think my idea holds water?
@laurenchase9057 Жыл бұрын
Please please please please please please please please please please please please please bring back infinity chain and make it about Amelia when she first started on the train
@arcaine39072 жыл бұрын
of course he died in a car crash. 1. Jam is just blood or blood mixed with gasoline, turtles were sliding trough the crosssection because his car was green and was turned upside down during the accident and the red car was the one that hit his car I assume. Also the car crash probably was in the USA and they were british so maybe he did some manouver at first and because of the stress or the heavy mist/rain he was on the wrong side of the street what escalated into a crash finally. It must happened quickly and just after she proposed that's why it was so traumatising she didin't even wanted to participate in the furneal, she was still in a state of denial that it had happened.
@jennifervan753 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about the gem positions/placements in Steven universe? Maybe the colours too
@MegaMegaMiner1003 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up this video did not appear in my recommended feed whatsoever, I had to look it up myself
@brianahawkins81243 жыл бұрын
Maybe the phone call was actually the police explain to Amelia that Alrick died.
@ejay62633 жыл бұрын
i love this video
@MagicalFineRein242 жыл бұрын
Toon Ruins, is it ok if I can reference this video in a Twitter thread I am planning to release on an Infinity Train trend event on the one year anniversary of Book 4? ♾🚂
@heliojip2 жыл бұрын
your infinity train theories are soooooo gooooood can u please do one on book 4 like an analysis video on min and ryan's relationship and their queer coding or one on book 2 and lake's trans coding👉👈
@sua86383 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD How did I not see that!?!?!
@Rolli_Zolli3 жыл бұрын
(reads title) Well, i'm sorry to inform you, but, he died :/
@avrinrose54573 жыл бұрын
Can you talk About Kaitou Joker?
@grantlauzon52373 жыл бұрын
Probably not a Buick with them living in England/Europe. But definitely 70s or 80s. Maybe a Ford Cortina Austin Maxie Morris Ital Morris Marina Opel Ascona Hillman Avenger From late 60s to early 80s. They didn’t necessarily buy new.
@winter97533 жыл бұрын
Wait what book 5? Last time I checked the show was cancelled
@blayjay3 жыл бұрын
They have a lot more books planned out/story mapped but we’ll just never see it.
@Jenna-in4br3 жыл бұрын
They had it planned all the way to book 8. Which I assume was going to be the final book. But it got cancelled cause CN sucks.
@kinglatag69552 жыл бұрын
I really want to know what happened to Alrick✌️😎👍
@kinglatag69552 жыл бұрын
What did happened to Alrick on infinity train 🤔✌️
@tobyaseme97373 жыл бұрын
Not to be that guy.... but in your video description, you spelled ‘together’ as ‘togather’
@tayloredwards49683 жыл бұрын
What was your favorite season
@thesmilyguyguy97993 жыл бұрын
:D
@TheobaldLeonhart3 жыл бұрын
* cough * Take it off HBO help * cough *
@ollidragon31463 жыл бұрын
he, um, he died. thats what happened
@Mayonnaise-m8h3 жыл бұрын
Kinda true. It doesn’t *necessarily* matter why he died, because he did, and the fact that he’s gone is what drove Amelia to the point of denial that she reached.
@ollidragon31463 жыл бұрын
@@Mayonnaise-m8h not as deep as i meant to go but okay
@Jade_18723 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’d think it would be amazing if it turned out he wasn’t lying and it was a dirt bike accident but not just that alone, say someone was on a bike and they were the cause of the accident causing his car to crash when trying to avoid the bike or having struck it. That way the car wreck would be accurate as well as saying it was a dirt bike accident, doesn’t mean he has to be the one on the bike.