Lead loaded Shillelaghs

[@StonesSticksBones]

Thanks for the shout out! I have addressed some similar sorts of points in a few recent videos (though I'm not great on camera....), I might do a video response & address some things & give my thoughts (like old fashioned KZbin!)

[@ramblingkern]

@@StonesSticksBones that would be amazing it's always great to get a makers opinions on these things and obviously you know a ton more about the longevity of these sticks too.

[@MCKevin289]

My family shillalegh that I am the steward of was brought from Ireland by my turn of the century ancestors has a lead tip and several lead nails at the bottom of it.

[@ramblingkern]

@@MCKevin289 lead tip as in the head had been filled with lead? What sort of length is it?

[@MCKevin289]

@@ramblingkern It’s a cap at the bottom tip of the shillelagh. It’s long enough for me (I’m 178 cm tall) where I could walk with and use it as a cane if I wanted too.

[@ramblingkern]

@@MCKevin289 very interesting a great family heirloom and a rare piece.

[@artawhirler]

Excellent video, Nathan! I completely agree with you that ANY hand-held weapon needs to be light and fast, not big and clumsy. Also, although I live in the US, I am fortunate to own two authentic Irish blackthorn shillelaghs, made by two different craftsmen in the southwest of Ireland. Anyone who has ever examined an authentic blackthorn shillelagh will quickly see that it is perfectly capable of resolving any disputes you may have, without the pointless additional weight of lead.

[@ramblingkern]

@@artawhirler very well said mate. It's totally unnecessary.

[@Driffer7614]

Always though of doing that

[@Outrider74]

Just found this video! Not sure why it didn't pop up sooner; your videos are usually displayed when I start up KZbin. And you're right: you don't need the lead. A good shillelagh with a solid knob is just as effective as a self-defense tool as anything else.

[@ramblingkern]

@@Outrider74 yeah KZbin can be a bit funny when it comes to anything weapon orientated

[@Thorne_MacGregor]

As always, grand video Nathan. I always thought the idea of lead-loaded shillelaghs was a bit ridiculous, but it's good to hear it from a practitioner of the martial art that uses them. Loved the video and i look forward to more. Go raibh maith agat.

[@ramblingkern]

@@Thorne_MacGregor grma yes it's a funny one but I think now it's become so popularised they are being sought out but yeah as someone who hits and get hits with sticks weekly it's not for me haha.

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

I have a lead loaded one and have bought one for my missus. They are great i`ve still used them to walk with. Haven`t bashed anyone

[@ramblingkern]

.....not yet :D

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

@@ramblingkern

[@maleindividual7437]

I made one for my mum, there was a dog that kept getting loose and attacking her dog, my mum may be weak but the stick wasn't, i put an alpine spike on the bottom just incase but the heavy end did its job without having to resort to poking it gladly, my personal one is nice and light with a slight hook from the root perfect for getting at berries and apples or damsons, well i do prefer eating to fighting so my stick reflects that 😂

[@ramblingkern]

@@maleindividual7437 I meant to say for most folks fending off an angry dog is the most likely situation you will get it haha.

[@CDKohmy]

I’d add another point: lead would make shipping or traveling a hassle.

[@ramblingkern]

@@CDKohmy good point putting one through an airport scanner could cause some serious issues.

[@livereatingjohnson8231]

Leaded clubs were used to great effect by all sides in the trenches of WW1. Also leather leaded black jacks were used by both sides during the US civil war

[@ramblingkern]

@@livereatingjohnson8231 yes but a short club is a very different beast to a 3 foot plus cane.

[@livereatingjohnson8231]

@@ramblingkern Fair point.

[@jimpoulin1133]

Lead loading, especially if not done well, also leads to the lead moving around in the drilled hole as the wood changes…..creating an annoying rattle. Like you, I prefer a quick lighter stick myself.

[@ramblingkern]

@@jimpoulin1133 ah well said and a point I hadn't even considered.

[@conlethberry1236]

Agreed!!

[@davidwhiren817]

If one thinks about it, the shaft of a sword cane is hollow & is a poor choice to be used as a striking weapon, due to the hole aka sheath cavity!!! As a jabbing weapon, may allow it to last a bit longer!!! Even the handle, knob, etc. will not with stand as a clubbing instrument for very many swats!!! It is for all tense & purposes a conceal carry sword & nothing more!!! Even with a solid one-piece cane, jabbing maybe your best bet to keep it in one piece for very long!!!

[@ramblingkern]

@@davidwhiren817 this is true

[@matthewlyons4281]

If you have a baseball bat in your car, be sure to have a baseball glove as well .your lawer will thank you

[@ramblingkern]

@@matthewlyons4281 haha well said. We don't tend to have many baseball players in this country so having one is a bit suspicious anyway