Learn To DOMINATE As Dwarfs Early

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Battlesey

Battlesey

Күн бұрын

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@Thedefenses
@Thedefenses 6 ай бұрын
"Stop Making These Mistakes As Dwarfs". so just recruit gyrocopters and cheese the enemy AI, yeah seems about right.
@Daktangle
@Daktangle 6 ай бұрын
When using Gyrocopters, remember to use Shift+1 to drop the bombs, meaning you can micro them more easily. Works for any ability on the left side, Ctrl+X works for spells.
@ThaLoser
@ThaLoser 6 ай бұрын
my thanks to ye great longbeard.
@NotClosedMinded
@NotClosedMinded 6 ай бұрын
Gyrocopters finally being useful and good even. They have been ''crap'' for a long time.
@majorfallacy5926
@majorfallacy5926 6 ай бұрын
"Stop making these mistakes" The mistakes: playing the game as intended instead of cheesing the ever living crap out of a faulty AI. That's the equivalent of only playing stealth archer in Skyrim.
@Insideoutcest
@Insideoutcest 6 ай бұрын
"stop making these mistakes..." *immediately tells you to cheese* okay?
@danielgloyd4529
@danielgloyd4529 6 ай бұрын
Your mistake was not cheesing hard enough.
@brentonherbert7775
@brentonherbert7775 2 ай бұрын
Not knowing your enemy was your first mistake. Not knowing yourself was the second.
@Arbaaltheundefeated
@Arbaaltheundefeated 6 ай бұрын
Not cheesing the stupid AI with BS exploit tactics neither constitutes making a mistake, nor needing to learn how to play Dwarves.
@brentonherbert7775
@brentonherbert7775 2 ай бұрын
Waa waa? Sounds like someone has a skill issue lmao.
@onyxsuccubus
@onyxsuccubus Ай бұрын
@@brentonherbert7775 You know what's more skillful? *Not* needing exploits and cheese to win. Actually... you know, having tactical acumen sufficient to fight battles without just using faulty AI that a player would never replicate, because it's that braindead. lmao "skill issue", imagine self reporting that bad...
@Loj84
@Loj84 6 ай бұрын
It obviously depends on the army comp, but imo it’s usually better to simply take out their missile units with the gyros early on. I generally take 4 regular gyros and 1 trollhammer per army. I bait flying units away from the missile units and kill them, then take out the missile units, then the lord, then every other single entity, and the armies usually meet right around then. Obviously prioritizing only large units with the trollhammer.
@brentonherbert7775
@brentonherbert7775 6 ай бұрын
A few things i do differently in my own battles is focus fire. And iron drakes first depending on who you're fighting. In fact i forgo any income or basic buildings just to get a gyro iron drake formation going. Also yes having 5 different copters going 5 different directions is all well and good. But 5 focus firing a single unit in my opinion is WAY better. At least starting off. Why? Because instead of running from the archers all game if you take them out first (Really easily, again depending on the army but this early in game you're going to be taking out MULTIPLE models each burst) And then that leaves you fully free to engage anything else at will. When fighting skrag i like to focus him first to get the moral losses in and then it makes breaking his armies a lot easier. And all while my 3 badly damaged units are off in a bush watching a 20 stack of ogres try to figure out what is going on. Do not under estimate the ability to fully remove specific units instead of chipping away at multiple and doing arguably nothing. Oh and iron drakes are just funny period. Hide em in a treeline. Send em down city streets. Onto city walls even when attacking. Undead armies are the funniest stuff and so are greenskins to say nothing of the sheer amount of toasted rats you'll be racking up when you hit that 5 second reload speed.
@roofie1695
@roofie1695 6 ай бұрын
The easy autoresolve was just the chefs kiss on top.
@austinpowell2710
@austinpowell2710 2 ай бұрын
New warhammer player. I was really hurting myself by not charging enemy middle troops. I was loosing a lot of my dwarfs to the continues middle fire. Yeah, don’t expect your mainline dwarfs to actually chase them down. But once part of the enemy line has broken, send one or two units to chase missiles. My hammers have had good luck of chasing them down tbh
@eugenmalatov5470
@eugenmalatov5470 4 күн бұрын
what does "stagger" value mean?
@theghostoftom
@theghostoftom 6 ай бұрын
This is why i just auto resolve vs dwarf air force spam. Just a broken mess of small erratically moving spread out flying entities able to dish out well over their cost in damage before an entire army of missile units can do anything to them. Add to that airships which can outrun dragons and it goes from a battle into an exercise in frustration. Someone on CA team loves dwarfs and doesn't give a 💩 about balance.
@Insideoutcest
@Insideoutcest 6 ай бұрын
i auto resolved malakai because i didnt want to fight a fucking ghost blimp
@brentonherbert7775
@brentonherbert7775 2 ай бұрын
@@Insideoutcest Have you tried.... Not sucking? Malakai is by no means a tanky lord lmao. Arguably squishy af being.. ya know... a ranged SLAYER lmao.
@zeggsy0554
@zeggsy0554 6 ай бұрын
probably doesn't count for h2h, since you can't battle cheese? or do gyros have rly good autoresolve?
@brentonherbert7775
@brentonherbert7775 2 ай бұрын
Ew you play total war multiplayer??
@jacawandersmok9043
@jacawandersmok9043 6 ай бұрын
see sheell wll in minature picture brain : YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!
@elite_rock_god2292
@elite_rock_god2292 6 ай бұрын
I never used the slayer pirates, are they even worth it? Typically just use alot of cannons with grape shot and a few shotgunners and gg🤣
@shamanahaboolist
@shamanahaboolist 6 ай бұрын
they're ok but kinda meh. like most hybrids if you have 2 of them you'd be better having 1 ranged and 1 melee that are specialised instead. 1 quarrellers with some slayers in front are better I think.
@elite_rock_god2292
@elite_rock_god2292 6 ай бұрын
@shamanahaboolist ye like I appreciate they are a option. But I always go with cannons and organ guns and some shotguns 🤣
@grubbus7922
@grubbus7922 6 ай бұрын
at 1:57 what do you mean with 'alt-move'?
@jakubs.5966
@jakubs.5966 6 ай бұрын
Select a unit/units and while holding alt you can move them in the same position they are in. This allows for precision bombing, cause sometimes you can't click to move gyro-units over the enemy unit(no space to click) and alt-moving allows you to do it.
@spookydan39
@spookydan39 6 ай бұрын
Hold ALT + drag with left mouse - It lets you move units in a formation. For example you can set up your army before a battle then hold ALT and left mouse drag to move your army all together into a new position. If you hold CTRL at the same time, you can then use the left mouse drag to rotate the formation. Takes a bit of practice but its one of the most important control mechanics you can learn.
@alexxu3004
@alexxu3004 6 ай бұрын
I'd go for flamer build rather than chopper for early game, lots more damage, lot cheaper to be effective
@Grauer33
@Grauer33 6 ай бұрын
Sorry, i did not get how to make copters hover over enemy witjout attack order. Alt + which key?
@Battleseyttv
@Battleseyttv 6 ай бұрын
Alt + Drag with left click :)
@Grauer33
@Grauer33 6 ай бұрын
@@Battleseyttv thank you man!
@JimRFF
@JimRFF 6 ай бұрын
@@Grauer33 just for extra clarity: hold Alt then left-click-and-hold on your unit, as long as you keep left click held down you can let go of the Alt key now; you should be able to see the formation footprint under your cursor, and you can drag it anywhere on the battlefield, wherever you "release" the click that's where the unit will walk to... but there is one more trick: while holding the left click down and moving the footprint, you can also hold the Ctrl key and then the footprint will freeze in place and moving the mouse will change the direction the unit will face; this allows you to very precisely position any unit without an attack order
@Grauer33
@Grauer33 6 ай бұрын
@@JimRFF REALLY apprecited! Have a great day, Sir!
@JimRFF
@JimRFF 6 ай бұрын
@@Grauer33 no problem! The alt-move thing is one of those tricks the game never really tries to tell you is a thing in the first place, but it's pretty simple once you learn it and it can really change how you play the game and position your units (ESPECIALLY for any flying units with "drop bomb" type abilities haha)
@faeezf
@faeezf 6 ай бұрын
Can the vampire bats spam counter the gyrocopters?
@ryanmcfall1127
@ryanmcfall1127 6 ай бұрын
yes, if you have about 1-1 numbers. Gyrocopters in melee are trash
@danielgloyd4529
@danielgloyd4529 6 ай бұрын
Bats will absolutely dumpster gyros.
@Assassinss77
@Assassinss77 6 ай бұрын
I have an idea for the next vid: Stop taking so much damage as any faction! Run 40 minutes to waste all the ammo then do a bit more to waste all the winds of magic.
@eugenmalatov5470
@eugenmalatov5470 4 күн бұрын
I dont get it. Gyrocopters are super fragile towards ranged units. So why are you using them against them?
@Pall_Bearmasher
@Pall_Bearmasher 6 ай бұрын
You also have to micro them so they won't shoot other units of gyros in cross fire
@radimmeduna5764
@radimmeduna5764 6 ай бұрын
3:00 This is crazy, just shows how the AI that hasn't been updated since Medieval 2 and has no clue what to do against flying units 🤣🤣I hope they will make the AI better in this game before going on to a different Total War game.
@Insideoutcest
@Insideoutcest 6 ай бұрын
it works up until the enemy has nothing but skirmish type units in their armies or any amount of flying units that arent aggrod. it will also fail miserably in very hard combat difficulty often because of the priority targeting and other AI behavior.
@Calswei
@Calswei 6 ай бұрын
RIP Vlad
@danielgloyd4529
@danielgloyd4529 6 ай бұрын
Gyrocopters wreck everything except high elves and vampires. Skaven are kinda iffy if they have engineers with warpgale.
@l_ArAxus_l
@l_ArAxus_l 6 ай бұрын
How the heck vampires can do anything about flying missile unit?
@sauldownbadman876
@sauldownbadman876 6 ай бұрын
​@@l_ArAxus_lvargehists and terrorgeists plus heroes on flying mounts
@l_ArAxus_l
@l_ArAxus_l 6 ай бұрын
@@sauldownbadman876 have you heard about Our Sevior - gyrocopters with trollhammer torpedoes? They annihilate large single entities like paper. Put at least 1 of these good boys in your gyroscope army and you are good
@danielgloyd4529
@danielgloyd4529 6 ай бұрын
@@l_ArAxus_l you get at most 1 every 15 turns.
@inwit594
@inwit594 6 ай бұрын
@@l_ArAxus_l Even those gyrocopters don't last long and can't return fire if vargheists are chasing them. It's easier with a terrorgheist tho.
@Har1ByWorld
@Har1ByWorld 6 ай бұрын
With amout of cheese you just proposed just change name of the channel to "legend of total war 2.0" cuz that guy too cant play and only cheese
@Object7533
@Object7533 6 ай бұрын
Kind of a misleading title for a video that basically only tells you "Gyros currently are OP & this is how to use them" :D ... Also I wouldn't necessarily call "not using a cheesy OP army" a mistake :D ... I utilize it because I am a lazy bastard, but many players will surely find it boring
@brentonherbert7775
@brentonherbert7775 2 ай бұрын
Clearly you are playing the wrong faction then if the GUN AND ARTY HEAVY HAMMER AND ANVIL FACTION is your choice. Ah yes let me just micro my fast knights and other skirmiser units too- Oh... oh wait thiiisss isnt the bretonian knights how silly of me! For your next till you be complaining about how you cant brute force as skaven and need to fight ratty??
@onyxsuccubus
@onyxsuccubus Ай бұрын
@@brentonherbert7775 ????? lmao okay, it's really not hard to manual an actual army as Dawi... do TWWH3 players lack any sort of tactical sense? Like, beyond just "hurr durr hammer and anvil!!!" which is one of the easiest strategies to pull off, only second to "flank them"...
@YukalayleeGames
@YukalayleeGames 6 ай бұрын
Monstrous
@R3GARnator
@R3GARnator 6 ай бұрын
Cheese for the Cheese God!
@alistairbolden6340
@alistairbolden6340 6 ай бұрын
4 units of slayers with pistols would have killed vlad a hell of a lot faster.
@Pall_Bearmasher
@Pall_Bearmasher 6 ай бұрын
Welp, this is getting nerfed lmao
@Insideoutcest
@Insideoutcest 6 ай бұрын
it already was nerfed. he just didnt find the dark elves yet
@riccardo393e7
@riccardo393e7 6 ай бұрын
The problem is filling the grudge bar
@47ravenlord
@47ravenlord 6 ай бұрын
I think what he meant by the title of this video was stop making the mistakes HE makes in this video, lol. Having your gyro's spaz out at all times, in all directions, while laying down ineffective fire, missing bombing opportunities, etc, etc is a good way to get a horrible battle like the one he showcases. 5 gyro's focus firing will delete a ranged unit VERY quickly.....focus your gyro's on their ranged units, erase them, and then EFFECTIVELY bomb their blobbed units when there is nothing left on the map that can even fire back. He toys with the ranged units and takes massive damage while allowing them to remain on the battlefield and even put volley's into his line while he is rushing them all over the place....not effective whatsoever. Battlesey....you seem like a nice guy, but you really should do a bit of research on how to effectively use a unit before making a video trying to tell other people how to use them.
@Insideoutcest
@Insideoutcest 6 ай бұрын
gyros are so bad at air defense i wouldnt try it again personally. thats about the only weakness. maybe ammo eventually.
@muhammadsaduddin308
@muhammadsaduddin308 6 ай бұрын
Too bad the brimstone variant is so much shit. Worst unit in the dwarf roster.
@guinnessd3533
@guinnessd3533 6 ай бұрын
Boooring... Gyrocopter..
@Dejawolfs
@Dejawolfs 6 ай бұрын
it's basically how i used tictactoe until it got boring :P
@arthanor9631
@arthanor9631 6 ай бұрын
Too many entities, too much speed, too much ammo. Those things are busted. For a prototype, they sure look like a realized masterpiece.
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