Learning to Fly the Cirrus SR20: Transition Training

[@erichminer7722]

Hey Noel! As someone who used to teach in the SR20’s quite a bit- something you may try next flight is to relax your grip to only really use two fingers and a thumb. That may help with the landings, as responsive as the controls are on the Cirrus it can be easy to overcontrol. Awesome to see you flying in a new plane, blue skies and tailwinds!

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Thanks for the tip! Will try that next time!

[@perulez]

Oh what a relax instructor. Really calm and comforting in the approach. But you can make it. I can't wait to see the two of you explorer the country even futher.

[@Joshuaphunt]

I work at the other flight school at this airfield, see this cirrus a lot. Hopefully I’ll see you around at some point! Blue skies.

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Make sure to give way to me on the Delta ramp - I’m a Cirrus pilot now 😂

[@TelecomsHelper]

Nice skills, the instructor was amazing, very calm - she let you get on with it

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

She’s a great instructor.

[@TimS57064]

Was great to see you flying something a bit newer.Kudos

[@samuelmartin707]

Great video Noel awesome job!!!! 2 thumbs up my friend!!!!

[@n1msu]

Only recently learnt how much more 'relaxed' flying is over there too! No need for some VFR flightplans, just point and fly! It's a shame it's not similar in England, but since Texas is nearly 3X larger than the UK (not sure if that figure includes NI), I can only imagine how many Englands Texas could contain! Great video as always!

[@craigc5879]

Should try flying in Western Australia, even bigger space than texas :-)

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

It really is great here. You want to stop for touch and goes? Just drop in. Want to fly over the top of IAH? Give them a call and they’ll slot you in. It’s awesome here.

[@n1msu]

@@FlyWithNoelPhilips I'm so jealous! Next you'll be telling us touch and goes at some airports are free!!

[@lonestardr8301]

Not a bad job of landing, you’ve got it, just a bit more flying and your good to go.

[@Mrdogface12]

We are all ready for the next lesson Noel.

[@louisthetravelspotter]

what a brilliant landing

[@davidisaacson9543]

Good choice of plane. Hope you never have to pull that red thing but it is nice to have it

[@petermolyneux9544]

Ryanair would be pleased with those landings.

[@raybrown2197]

Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.

[@phyllislowry6265]

I had anxiety watching when the engine was turned off! I had no idea that was what you were going to learn to deal with!!!! I'm not sure what I expected but it wasn't that!! You certainly don't have much leg room in that cockpit though .I'm not quite 5' & I could've had room to dance! I suppose tall people have issues as well as short people! It's very interesting that the plane has a parachute! It looked like you did very well flying the plane even if it was your first time. I must say, I don't understand anything that the controllers(?) are talking about on the radio! Thanks for taking us along!

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Fortunately the engine isn’t actually turned off for these procedures, just idled (which is pretty similar but you get the ability to use it if you have to!). There’s quite a lot of room, I just have my seat right forward!

[@maximillianairborne3797]

Stefan Drury will be proud.

[@StefanDrury]

He won't want to fly anything else now. Welcome to the Cirrus gang Noel 🤛

[@didierdt5420]

My grandpa used to have a plane like this when i was een kid. Good memories..

[@AndrewChukin]

Awesome video Noel Phillips also I see you changed your main channel's location but not this channel's when will you change it from United Kingdom to United States? Keep up the awesome work Noel Phillips buddy.

[@timbacchus]

I have had my Cessna 150 since 74 and I would love to have it have a side stick so I could see the instruments better. Would take a lot of getting used to. Have fun. I hate doing accelerated stalls When I do a morning of touch and goes my first one is always the best. And then they start to get worse.

[@jimhesch1404]

Great editing.

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Thank you!

[@TheLincolnshireFlyer]

Looks a very nice aircraft. Enjoyed the video.

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Thank you! It’s a great little plane,

[@SparQz]

Not sure Im gonna like the stick if I get accepted into the next class. I've always flown Cessna 172 for 53hrs and the new school I'm trying to go finish out at uses sr20. How much difference is there in flying them?

[@CallieMasters5000]

Can you talk about the cost of doing this training? Are you enrolled in a school course or you just pay as you go? How much time and money will all this take?

[@slideryt]

All Riiiiiigght!

[@n1msu]

I also learnt something, I didn't realise the Entegra was actually older than the G1000, I thought it was just a preference rather than the Garmin actually being an upgrade.

[@MA-ky5bn]

Amazing landing Bro .

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Thanks a lot!

[@GTLPT]

Brilliant video, hope life in TX is good, I went to Gamston, also do you prefer Ryanair or the US Budget airlines?

[@noelj6579]

Wow! Excellent video, Noel. Next you’ll be training to fly an A320😁👍

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Who knows what’s coming up!

[@cottonhiker]

Can’t wait for the fams reaction to the Cirrus!?🙏

[@BillLeach123]

Surprised you haven't tried a Cirrus before - there's lots of them at Gamston!

[@Flightpathchronicles]

what mount did you use to mount the go pro on the wing?

[@jonclassical5710]

How long has it taken you to get used to that silly joy stick thingee vs a good old fashion YOKE!?

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Haha, it's basically a one handed yoke. It's pretty much exactly the same, just don't end up wearing it in my lap when I pull back!

[@Unfaced85]

did not watch all the flying vlogs, but was it hard to get your license transfered from British to FAA PPL?

[@SJF15]

That's some trout pout! 💋

[@pradok22]

Is the emergency descent component an American or Cirrus training thing? I’ve never once in my PPL training or aircraft checkouts had the instructor or examiner call for a rapid descent following an engine failure. On the contrary, getting maximum range has always been drilled into me and the expectation has been that I maintain best glide speed throughout the scenario.

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Same! I’ve never had that before which is why it took me by surprise!

[@pradok22]

@@FlyWithNoelPhilips Yeah it seemed like the one instance where she kept nudging you to do something differently. I guess Best Glide is seen as less critical when you’ve got a parachute recovery system! 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@skyhawk_4526]

Normally on an engine failure scenario, you'd want best glide speed to maximize your time in the air and range. That would be a power-off glide. An emergency descent is mostly practiced for an engine fire or electrical fire where you want to get on the ground as quickly as possible. I did both in my PPL training, but the emphasis was more on glides. If I remember correctly, on my check-ride, we only did a simulated engine failure with a glide. But the examiner can also opt for a scenario where where a rapid emergency descent is called for. You have to be familiar with both procedures.

[@skyhawk_4526]

@@FlyWithNoelPhilips I did it with my instructor a few times as a student pilot. The emergency descent (rapid descent) is more for an engine or electrical fire scenario where you want to get on the ground and evacuate the plane as quickly as possible. I never had to demonstrate one on my PPL check ride (it was more of a run-of-the-mill engine failure scenario with a descent at best glide speed, but my understanding is that the examiner could call for either one. My instructor and I practiced both.

[@captmulch1]

I’m glad you stopped pumping that stick!

[@dafo3840]

How are you enjoying your new home in Texas mate?

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Loving it thank you!

[@belugast]

Was it me or was the Cirrus more rocky/rolly than the Cherokee but nice aircraft.👍

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

It’s very sloppy in comparison, but then again it was a very bumpy day. It’s very solid in smooth weather.

[@joshualau4070]

I think United's pilot school uses these planes.....

[@prettymiffedbrit]

It amazes me that planes can fly at that higher speed with 200 hp engine. I suppose no tyre friction?

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

They’ve built it with aerodynamics in mind. Even the windows aren’t recessed, they are pretty much part of the fuselage with no gaps around them.

[@prettymiffedbrit]

@@FlyWithNoelPhilips ah OK!

[@simmooz3528]

Nice! I fly the exact same plane…. In xplane 12.

[@gadgme73]

Once transitioned, what do we call you? Noeleen? 🙂

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Just what the Americans call me: ‘No-Elle’ 😅

[@cottonhiker]

Try not to look at her Noel, you’re already married and you got this brother!?🙏😵‍💫

[@i94south34]

It seems like you don't ave alot of leg room.

[@skyhawk_4526]

He's pretty tall - can't remember exactly. I've never flown in a Cirrus and don't know how far back the seats can go. I expect it back fairly far, but it's also important to be able to fully depress the rudder pedals/brakes. I used to fly with my seat pretty far forward for that reason and it also looked like I had very little leg room, but further back meant not being able to fully deflect the rudder left and right. I'm only 5' 7". I think Noel is around 6' 3".

[@alexaviation8107]

Dont start forgetting you radio calls and Rules of the Air 😜

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Hey I'm in a Cirrus now, I don't need them any more!

[@andrewyeates7717]

That stick looks like the most awkward uncomfortable thing ever

[@N1120A]

It's surprisingly ergonomic

[@SJF15]

Said the actress to the bishop.

[@jonathanbeattie3410]

@@SJF15 🤣🤣

[@tedferkin]

If you want speed, the mooney would be a better choice

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

It would, as would the AG5 but the club only has the Cirrus in the SEP category.

[@skyhawk_4526]

I think the SR-20 makes transitioning quite a bit easier and cheaper since it's fixed gear and not more than 200 hp. A Mooney would be great, but also requires a high-performance endorsement and a complex airplane endorsement on your PPL. A lot of insurance companies won't insure a pilot in a complex/high-performance aircraft until a certain number of flight hours are logged. Same often goes with flight clubs' willingness to rent out those types of aircraft.

[@sebsch4081]

i guess you are too big for this plane. seems like its made for rly short ppl to fly. lol

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Haha, there’s quite a bit of room and I have my seat right forward to reach the pedals. It’s actually more spacious than the PA28.

[@skyhawk_4526]

I'm only 5' 7" and I used to have the seat in the 172 pretty far forward (in appearance) due to the need for being able to FULLY deflect the rudder pedals. There were some occasions on longer flights where I'd adjust the seat at cruise just for a little more leg room and comfort, but usually I would leave it be for safety reasons. Adjusting your seat in flight with no one next to you to take the controls in the event your seat slides ALL the way back by accident is not a good idea since your natural tendency would be to grab the yoke to stop yourself from sliding too far back - which obviously would be a very bad thing!

[@Saa42808]

Why different planes are operate differently when the basic concept is the same? It is not an IT industry or whatever it is aviation dude. 🤨

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

They all handle very different. The SR20 is nearly double the weight and 30% faster than the PA28 so handles very differently.

[@skyhawk_4526]

Well, we wouldn't want F16's that fly like 152's, and we wouldn't want 152's that fly like F-16's (even though the latter sounds fun in theory, it would be disastrous). Different planes have different purposes and different performance envelopes and systems for that reason. Even though the PA-28 and the SR-20 are both single-engine fixed-gear GA planes, they were designed for different purposes. The PA-28 is an entry level plane designed as a trainer and a docile platform for low-time pilots to fly their families and friends around the local area. An SR-20, on the other hand, is more designed for executives or higher-time pilots looking to do what Noel is looking for - flights to farther away destinations. Often, the higher the performance of the aircraft, the more complex its systems are and the less forgiving they are to poor piloting. An SR-20 is probably marketed as "entry level," but in reality, it's not. It's a definite step up from a 172, PA-28 or similar 4-seater.

[@danielhartwig6333]

❤️your work Noel..... America would have some kool aviation museums..... in Australia far as I know Longreach and Caloundra airport has some kool things m8 🥳🍻🍻🍻🐈🐈🐈🐈💼

[@FlyWithNoelPhilips]

Thank you!